Find the relationship of the length of triangle's sides.

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
2
down vote

favorite













Denote the three sides of $triangle ABC$ to be $a,b,c$. And they satisfy $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 $$
Now determine what kind of triangle $triangle ABC$ is.

A.Isosceles triangle which its leg and base is not equal.

B.equilateral triangle

C.Right triangle

D.Isosceles Right triangle




The only information I got is from the number in the radical need to be greater than $0$. Then $bge4$ and $cge 1$. Also $10a+2sqrtb-4-22ge0 $. But they are all inequalities. What we need is some equalities. It would be great to have some hints.










share|cite|improve this question



























    up vote
    2
    down vote

    favorite













    Denote the three sides of $triangle ABC$ to be $a,b,c$. And they satisfy $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 $$
    Now determine what kind of triangle $triangle ABC$ is.

    A.Isosceles triangle which its leg and base is not equal.

    B.equilateral triangle

    C.Right triangle

    D.Isosceles Right triangle




    The only information I got is from the number in the radical need to be greater than $0$. Then $bge4$ and $cge 1$. Also $10a+2sqrtb-4-22ge0 $. But they are all inequalities. What we need is some equalities. It would be great to have some hints.










    share|cite|improve this question

























      up vote
      2
      down vote

      favorite









      up vote
      2
      down vote

      favorite












      Denote the three sides of $triangle ABC$ to be $a,b,c$. And they satisfy $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 $$
      Now determine what kind of triangle $triangle ABC$ is.

      A.Isosceles triangle which its leg and base is not equal.

      B.equilateral triangle

      C.Right triangle

      D.Isosceles Right triangle




      The only information I got is from the number in the radical need to be greater than $0$. Then $bge4$ and $cge 1$. Also $10a+2sqrtb-4-22ge0 $. But they are all inequalities. What we need is some equalities. It would be great to have some hints.










      share|cite|improve this question
















      Denote the three sides of $triangle ABC$ to be $a,b,c$. And they satisfy $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 $$
      Now determine what kind of triangle $triangle ABC$ is.

      A.Isosceles triangle which its leg and base is not equal.

      B.equilateral triangle

      C.Right triangle

      D.Isosceles Right triangle




      The only information I got is from the number in the radical need to be greater than $0$. Then $bge4$ and $cge 1$. Also $10a+2sqrtb-4-22ge0 $. But they are all inequalities. What we need is some equalities. It would be great to have some hints.







      inequality triangle






      share|cite|improve this question















      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question








      edited 2 hours ago









      TheSimpliFire

      11.1k62255




      11.1k62255










      asked 3 hours ago









      LOIS

      2538




      2538




















          5 Answers
          5






          active

          oldest

          votes

















          up vote
          4
          down vote



          accepted










          We have
          $$|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-btag1$$
          from which
          $$10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-bge 0tag2$$
          follows.



          $(2)$ is equivalent to
          $$a^2-10a+b-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
          i.e.
          $$(a-5)^2-25+(b-4)+4-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
          i.e.
          $$(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2le 0$$
          from which
          $$a-5=sqrtb-4-1=0$$
          i.e.
          $$a=b=5$$
          follows.



          Now you can get $c$ from $(1)$.






          share|cite|improve this answer



























            up vote
            2
            down vote













            HINT:



            Write the equality as $$a^2-10a+22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4=0$$ and since we know that $a$ is real, $$22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4le25\b-2sqrtb-4le3-|sqrtc-1-2|le3.$$ But if $f(b)=b-2sqrtb-4$, $f'(b)=1-dfrac1sqrtb-4=0$ for stationary points, resulting in $b=5$ as a minimum, and $f(b)=3$.



            Hence that is the only value for $b$, meaning that $c=cdots,,?$




            Spoiler:




            The triangle is equilateral.







            share|cite|improve this answer





























              up vote
              1
              down vote













              Note that:
              $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 iff \
              (a-5)^2+|sqrtc-1-2|+(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0 Rightarrow \
              a=5, b=5, c=5.$$






              share|cite|improve this answer



























                up vote
                0
                down vote













                $(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2+|sqrt-2|=0$



                This lead $a=b=c=5$.






                share|cite|improve this answer



























                  up vote
                  0
                  down vote













                  Noodling:



                  $a^2$ and $10a$ in equations imply that maybe I should attempt to complete the square.



                  So I get



                  $a^2 - 10a +25+b +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=(a-5)^2 + b+ |sqrtc-1 -2|= 2sqrtb-4 + 3$



                  And, well this seems a bit weird but that is an even number in front of the $sqrtb-4$ and we have $sqrtb-4$ and $b$ variables to deal with so we can complete the square again with $v = sqrtb-4$ and $v^2 = b-4$.



                  (In the back of my mind I'm worrying about the $sqrtc-1$ which is just a single term; I'm not sure at this point what will happen.)



                  $(a -5)^2 + (b-4) - 2sqrtb-4 + 1 +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=3-4 + 1$



                  $(a-5)^2 + (sqrtb-4 - 1)^2 +|sqrtc-1 - 2| = 0$.



                  Oh......



                  We have three things that can't be negative adding up to $0$. So they must each equal $0$.



                  So $(a-5)^2 = 0$ and $a =5$. And $(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0$ and $b=5$. And $|sqrtc-1 -2| = 0$ so $c=5$.



                  Well.... okay then......






                  share|cite|improve this answer




















                    Your Answer




                    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
                    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
                    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
                    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
                    );
                    );
                    , "mathjax-editing");

                    StackExchange.ready(function()
                    var channelOptions =
                    tags: "".split(" "),
                    id: "69"
                    ;
                    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

                    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
                    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
                    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
                    StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
                    createEditor();
                    );

                    else
                    createEditor();

                    );

                    function createEditor()
                    StackExchange.prepareEditor(
                    heartbeatType: 'answer',
                    convertImagesToLinks: true,
                    noModals: false,
                    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
                    reputationToPostImages: 10,
                    bindNavPrevention: true,
                    postfix: "",
                    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
                    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
                    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
                    );



                    );













                     

                    draft saved


                    draft discarded


















                    StackExchange.ready(
                    function ()
                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2935522%2ffind-the-relationship-of-the-length-of-triangles-sides%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                    );

                    Post as a guest






























                    5 Answers
                    5






                    active

                    oldest

                    votes








                    5 Answers
                    5






                    active

                    oldest

                    votes









                    active

                    oldest

                    votes






                    active

                    oldest

                    votes








                    up vote
                    4
                    down vote



                    accepted










                    We have
                    $$|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-btag1$$
                    from which
                    $$10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-bge 0tag2$$
                    follows.



                    $(2)$ is equivalent to
                    $$a^2-10a+b-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                    i.e.
                    $$(a-5)^2-25+(b-4)+4-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                    i.e.
                    $$(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2le 0$$
                    from which
                    $$a-5=sqrtb-4-1=0$$
                    i.e.
                    $$a=b=5$$
                    follows.



                    Now you can get $c$ from $(1)$.






                    share|cite|improve this answer
























                      up vote
                      4
                      down vote



                      accepted










                      We have
                      $$|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-btag1$$
                      from which
                      $$10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-bge 0tag2$$
                      follows.



                      $(2)$ is equivalent to
                      $$a^2-10a+b-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                      i.e.
                      $$(a-5)^2-25+(b-4)+4-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                      i.e.
                      $$(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2le 0$$
                      from which
                      $$a-5=sqrtb-4-1=0$$
                      i.e.
                      $$a=b=5$$
                      follows.



                      Now you can get $c$ from $(1)$.






                      share|cite|improve this answer






















                        up vote
                        4
                        down vote



                        accepted







                        up vote
                        4
                        down vote



                        accepted






                        We have
                        $$|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-btag1$$
                        from which
                        $$10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-bge 0tag2$$
                        follows.



                        $(2)$ is equivalent to
                        $$a^2-10a+b-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                        i.e.
                        $$(a-5)^2-25+(b-4)+4-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                        i.e.
                        $$(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2le 0$$
                        from which
                        $$a-5=sqrtb-4-1=0$$
                        i.e.
                        $$a=b=5$$
                        follows.



                        Now you can get $c$ from $(1)$.






                        share|cite|improve this answer












                        We have
                        $$|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-btag1$$
                        from which
                        $$10a+2sqrtb-4-22-a^2-bge 0tag2$$
                        follows.



                        $(2)$ is equivalent to
                        $$a^2-10a+b-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                        i.e.
                        $$(a-5)^2-25+(b-4)+4-2sqrtb-4+22le 0,$$
                        i.e.
                        $$(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2le 0$$
                        from which
                        $$a-5=sqrtb-4-1=0$$
                        i.e.
                        $$a=b=5$$
                        follows.



                        Now you can get $c$ from $(1)$.







                        share|cite|improve this answer












                        share|cite|improve this answer



                        share|cite|improve this answer










                        answered 2 hours ago









                        mathlove

                        87.9k877209




                        87.9k877209




















                            up vote
                            2
                            down vote













                            HINT:



                            Write the equality as $$a^2-10a+22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4=0$$ and since we know that $a$ is real, $$22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4le25\b-2sqrtb-4le3-|sqrtc-1-2|le3.$$ But if $f(b)=b-2sqrtb-4$, $f'(b)=1-dfrac1sqrtb-4=0$ for stationary points, resulting in $b=5$ as a minimum, and $f(b)=3$.



                            Hence that is the only value for $b$, meaning that $c=cdots,,?$




                            Spoiler:




                            The triangle is equilateral.







                            share|cite|improve this answer


























                              up vote
                              2
                              down vote













                              HINT:



                              Write the equality as $$a^2-10a+22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4=0$$ and since we know that $a$ is real, $$22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4le25\b-2sqrtb-4le3-|sqrtc-1-2|le3.$$ But if $f(b)=b-2sqrtb-4$, $f'(b)=1-dfrac1sqrtb-4=0$ for stationary points, resulting in $b=5$ as a minimum, and $f(b)=3$.



                              Hence that is the only value for $b$, meaning that $c=cdots,,?$




                              Spoiler:




                              The triangle is equilateral.







                              share|cite|improve this answer
























                                up vote
                                2
                                down vote










                                up vote
                                2
                                down vote









                                HINT:



                                Write the equality as $$a^2-10a+22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4=0$$ and since we know that $a$ is real, $$22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4le25\b-2sqrtb-4le3-|sqrtc-1-2|le3.$$ But if $f(b)=b-2sqrtb-4$, $f'(b)=1-dfrac1sqrtb-4=0$ for stationary points, resulting in $b=5$ as a minimum, and $f(b)=3$.



                                Hence that is the only value for $b$, meaning that $c=cdots,,?$




                                Spoiler:




                                The triangle is equilateral.







                                share|cite|improve this answer














                                HINT:



                                Write the equality as $$a^2-10a+22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4=0$$ and since we know that $a$ is real, $$22+b+|sqrtc-1-2|-2sqrtb-4le25\b-2sqrtb-4le3-|sqrtc-1-2|le3.$$ But if $f(b)=b-2sqrtb-4$, $f'(b)=1-dfrac1sqrtb-4=0$ for stationary points, resulting in $b=5$ as a minimum, and $f(b)=3$.



                                Hence that is the only value for $b$, meaning that $c=cdots,,?$




                                Spoiler:




                                The triangle is equilateral.








                                share|cite|improve this answer














                                share|cite|improve this answer



                                share|cite|improve this answer








                                edited 2 hours ago

























                                answered 2 hours ago









                                TheSimpliFire

                                11.1k62255




                                11.1k62255




















                                    up vote
                                    1
                                    down vote













                                    Note that:
                                    $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 iff \
                                    (a-5)^2+|sqrtc-1-2|+(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0 Rightarrow \
                                    a=5, b=5, c=5.$$






                                    share|cite|improve this answer
























                                      up vote
                                      1
                                      down vote













                                      Note that:
                                      $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 iff \
                                      (a-5)^2+|sqrtc-1-2|+(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0 Rightarrow \
                                      a=5, b=5, c=5.$$






                                      share|cite|improve this answer






















                                        up vote
                                        1
                                        down vote










                                        up vote
                                        1
                                        down vote









                                        Note that:
                                        $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 iff \
                                        (a-5)^2+|sqrtc-1-2|+(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0 Rightarrow \
                                        a=5, b=5, c=5.$$






                                        share|cite|improve this answer












                                        Note that:
                                        $$a^2+b+|sqrtc-1-2|=10a+2sqrtb-4-22 iff \
                                        (a-5)^2+|sqrtc-1-2|+(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0 Rightarrow \
                                        a=5, b=5, c=5.$$







                                        share|cite|improve this answer












                                        share|cite|improve this answer



                                        share|cite|improve this answer










                                        answered 2 hours ago









                                        farruhota

                                        15.8k2734




                                        15.8k2734




















                                            up vote
                                            0
                                            down vote













                                            $(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2+|sqrt-2|=0$



                                            This lead $a=b=c=5$.






                                            share|cite|improve this answer
























                                              up vote
                                              0
                                              down vote













                                              $(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2+|sqrt-2|=0$



                                              This lead $a=b=c=5$.






                                              share|cite|improve this answer






















                                                up vote
                                                0
                                                down vote










                                                up vote
                                                0
                                                down vote









                                                $(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2+|sqrt-2|=0$



                                                This lead $a=b=c=5$.






                                                share|cite|improve this answer












                                                $(a-5)^2+(sqrtb-4-1)^2+|sqrt-2|=0$



                                                This lead $a=b=c=5$.







                                                share|cite|improve this answer












                                                share|cite|improve this answer



                                                share|cite|improve this answer










                                                answered 2 hours ago









                                                Takahiro Waki

                                                1,973620




                                                1,973620




















                                                    up vote
                                                    0
                                                    down vote













                                                    Noodling:



                                                    $a^2$ and $10a$ in equations imply that maybe I should attempt to complete the square.



                                                    So I get



                                                    $a^2 - 10a +25+b +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=(a-5)^2 + b+ |sqrtc-1 -2|= 2sqrtb-4 + 3$



                                                    And, well this seems a bit weird but that is an even number in front of the $sqrtb-4$ and we have $sqrtb-4$ and $b$ variables to deal with so we can complete the square again with $v = sqrtb-4$ and $v^2 = b-4$.



                                                    (In the back of my mind I'm worrying about the $sqrtc-1$ which is just a single term; I'm not sure at this point what will happen.)



                                                    $(a -5)^2 + (b-4) - 2sqrtb-4 + 1 +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=3-4 + 1$



                                                    $(a-5)^2 + (sqrtb-4 - 1)^2 +|sqrtc-1 - 2| = 0$.



                                                    Oh......



                                                    We have three things that can't be negative adding up to $0$. So they must each equal $0$.



                                                    So $(a-5)^2 = 0$ and $a =5$. And $(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0$ and $b=5$. And $|sqrtc-1 -2| = 0$ so $c=5$.



                                                    Well.... okay then......






                                                    share|cite|improve this answer
























                                                      up vote
                                                      0
                                                      down vote













                                                      Noodling:



                                                      $a^2$ and $10a$ in equations imply that maybe I should attempt to complete the square.



                                                      So I get



                                                      $a^2 - 10a +25+b +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=(a-5)^2 + b+ |sqrtc-1 -2|= 2sqrtb-4 + 3$



                                                      And, well this seems a bit weird but that is an even number in front of the $sqrtb-4$ and we have $sqrtb-4$ and $b$ variables to deal with so we can complete the square again with $v = sqrtb-4$ and $v^2 = b-4$.



                                                      (In the back of my mind I'm worrying about the $sqrtc-1$ which is just a single term; I'm not sure at this point what will happen.)



                                                      $(a -5)^2 + (b-4) - 2sqrtb-4 + 1 +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=3-4 + 1$



                                                      $(a-5)^2 + (sqrtb-4 - 1)^2 +|sqrtc-1 - 2| = 0$.



                                                      Oh......



                                                      We have three things that can't be negative adding up to $0$. So they must each equal $0$.



                                                      So $(a-5)^2 = 0$ and $a =5$. And $(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0$ and $b=5$. And $|sqrtc-1 -2| = 0$ so $c=5$.



                                                      Well.... okay then......






                                                      share|cite|improve this answer






















                                                        up vote
                                                        0
                                                        down vote










                                                        up vote
                                                        0
                                                        down vote









                                                        Noodling:



                                                        $a^2$ and $10a$ in equations imply that maybe I should attempt to complete the square.



                                                        So I get



                                                        $a^2 - 10a +25+b +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=(a-5)^2 + b+ |sqrtc-1 -2|= 2sqrtb-4 + 3$



                                                        And, well this seems a bit weird but that is an even number in front of the $sqrtb-4$ and we have $sqrtb-4$ and $b$ variables to deal with so we can complete the square again with $v = sqrtb-4$ and $v^2 = b-4$.



                                                        (In the back of my mind I'm worrying about the $sqrtc-1$ which is just a single term; I'm not sure at this point what will happen.)



                                                        $(a -5)^2 + (b-4) - 2sqrtb-4 + 1 +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=3-4 + 1$



                                                        $(a-5)^2 + (sqrtb-4 - 1)^2 +|sqrtc-1 - 2| = 0$.



                                                        Oh......



                                                        We have three things that can't be negative adding up to $0$. So they must each equal $0$.



                                                        So $(a-5)^2 = 0$ and $a =5$. And $(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0$ and $b=5$. And $|sqrtc-1 -2| = 0$ so $c=5$.



                                                        Well.... okay then......






                                                        share|cite|improve this answer












                                                        Noodling:



                                                        $a^2$ and $10a$ in equations imply that maybe I should attempt to complete the square.



                                                        So I get



                                                        $a^2 - 10a +25+b +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=(a-5)^2 + b+ |sqrtc-1 -2|= 2sqrtb-4 + 3$



                                                        And, well this seems a bit weird but that is an even number in front of the $sqrtb-4$ and we have $sqrtb-4$ and $b$ variables to deal with so we can complete the square again with $v = sqrtb-4$ and $v^2 = b-4$.



                                                        (In the back of my mind I'm worrying about the $sqrtc-1$ which is just a single term; I'm not sure at this point what will happen.)



                                                        $(a -5)^2 + (b-4) - 2sqrtb-4 + 1 +|sqrtc-1 - 2|=3-4 + 1$



                                                        $(a-5)^2 + (sqrtb-4 - 1)^2 +|sqrtc-1 - 2| = 0$.



                                                        Oh......



                                                        We have three things that can't be negative adding up to $0$. So they must each equal $0$.



                                                        So $(a-5)^2 = 0$ and $a =5$. And $(sqrtb-4-1)^2=0$ and $b=5$. And $|sqrtc-1 -2| = 0$ so $c=5$.



                                                        Well.... okay then......







                                                        share|cite|improve this answer












                                                        share|cite|improve this answer



                                                        share|cite|improve this answer










                                                        answered 2 hours ago









                                                        fleablood

                                                        62.3k22678




                                                        62.3k22678



























                                                             

                                                            draft saved


                                                            draft discarded















































                                                             


                                                            draft saved


                                                            draft discarded














                                                            StackExchange.ready(
                                                            function ()
                                                            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2935522%2ffind-the-relationship-of-the-length-of-triangles-sides%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                                                            );

                                                            Post as a guest













































































                                                            Comments

                                                            Popular posts from this blog

                                                            What does second last employer means? [closed]

                                                            Installing NextGIS Connect into QGIS 3?

                                                            One-line joke