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Audio and video are two (apparently XX-century) concepts.
Both take the same form as 1st-person sing., present tense Latin verbs. Wiktionary articles for the English words (audio, video) assert that their etymology actually is that of those verbal forms, and so does Etymonline (audio, video).
I could be wrong, but I can't think of any older word derived from Latin in this way. Instead, it reminds me of some initial translation attempts by people with little inflectional background, looking for dictionary entries for verbs, assuming that the verb is its 1st-pers. s. form.
This sounds wrong to me, as I can't see a reason why someone could want to name something an I see recorder, or an I hear wave.
Question: Is there a reason to draw these words from that verbal forms in specific? Or is it just bad Latin from an era when Latin is no longer the language of science?
Bonus fact: I thought the same applied to tango, but it seems to have a different origin.
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Audio and video are two (apparently XX-century) concepts.
Both take the same form as 1st-person sing., present tense Latin verbs. Wiktionary articles for the English words (audio, video) assert that their etymology actually is that of those verbal forms, and so does Etymonline (audio, video).
I could be wrong, but I can't think of any older word derived from Latin in this way. Instead, it reminds me of some initial translation attempts by people with little inflectional background, looking for dictionary entries for verbs, assuming that the verb is its 1st-pers. s. form.
This sounds wrong to me, as I can't see a reason why someone could want to name something an I see recorder, or an I hear wave.
Question: Is there a reason to draw these words from that verbal forms in specific? Or is it just bad Latin from an era when Latin is no longer the language of science?
Bonus fact: I thought the same applied to tango, but it seems to have a different origin.
etymologia vita-hodierna coniugatio english
asked Sep 5 at 19:49
Rafael
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What about studio? Would it come from studeo or from studium?
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Sep 7 at 10:06
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Audio and video are two (apparently XX-century) concepts.
Both take the same form as 1st-person sing., present tense Latin verbs. Wiktionary articles for the English words (audio, video) assert that their etymology actually is that of those verbal forms, and so does Etymonline (audio, video).
I could be wrong, but I can't think of any older word derived from Latin in this way. Instead, it reminds me of some initial translation attempts by people with little inflectional background, looking for dictionary entries for verbs, assuming that the verb is its 1st-pers. s. form.
This sounds wrong to me, as I can't see a reason why someone could want to name something an I see recorder, or an I hear wave.
Question: Is there a reason to draw these words from that verbal forms in specific? Or is it just bad Latin from an era when Latin is no longer the language of science?
Bonus fact: I thought the same applied to tango, but it seems to have a different origin.
etymologia vita-hodierna coniugatio english
asked Sep 5 at 19:49
Rafael
5,5152937
Audio and video are two (apparently XX-century) concepts.
Both take the same form as 1st-person sing., present tense Latin verbs. Wiktionary articles for the English words (audio, video) assert that their etymology actually is that of those verbal forms, and so does Etymonline (audio, video).
I could be wrong, but I can't think of any older word derived from Latin in this way. Instead, it reminds me of some initial translation attempts by people with little inflectional background, looking for dictionary entries for verbs, assuming that the verb is its 1st-pers. s. form.
This sounds wrong to me, as I can't see a reason why someone could want to name something an I see recorder, or an I hear wave.
Question: Is there a reason to draw these words from that verbal forms in specific? Or is it just bad Latin from an era when Latin is no longer the language of science?
Bonus fact: I thought the same applied to tango, but it seems to have a different origin.
etymologia vita-hodierna coniugatio english
asked Sep 5 at 19:49
Rafael
5,5152937
asked Sep 5 at 19:49
Rafael
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asked Sep 5 at 19:49
Rafael
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asked Sep 5 at 19:49
Rafael
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What about studio? Would it come from studeo or from studium?
– luchonacho
Sep 7 at 10:06
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What about studio? Would it come from studeo or from studium?
– luchonacho
Sep 7 at 10:06
What about studio? Would it come from studeo or from studium?
– luchonacho
Sep 7 at 10:06
What about studio? Would it come from studeo or from studium?
– luchonacho
Sep 7 at 10:06
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The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the O in audio, video and radio comes from the O found in Greek compounds, which was used in scientific vocabulary built from Latin and Greek roots: e.g. audiology or radiometer.
Note that the Etymonline entry for audio actually seems to say the same thing:
abstracted from word-forming element audio- (q.v.), which is from Latin audire "to hear"
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
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Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
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OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
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Sep 5 at 22:23
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1 Answer
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active
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active
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up vote
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The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the O in audio, video and radio comes from the O found in Greek compounds, which was used in scientific vocabulary built from Latin and Greek roots: e.g. audiology or radiometer.
Note that the Etymonline entry for audio actually seems to say the same thing:
abstracted from word-forming element audio- (q.v.), which is from Latin audire "to hear"
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
4
OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 22:23
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the O in audio, video and radio comes from the O found in Greek compounds, which was used in scientific vocabulary built from Latin and Greek roots: e.g. audiology or radiometer.
Note that the Etymonline entry for audio actually seems to say the same thing:
abstracted from word-forming element audio- (q.v.), which is from Latin audire "to hear"
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
4
OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 22:23
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
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up vote
3
down vote
The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the O in audio, video and radio comes from the O found in Greek compounds, which was used in scientific vocabulary built from Latin and Greek roots: e.g. audiology or radiometer.
Note that the Etymonline entry for audio actually seems to say the same thing:
abstracted from word-forming element audio- (q.v.), which is from Latin audire "to hear"
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the O in audio, video and radio comes from the O found in Greek compounds, which was used in scientific vocabulary built from Latin and Greek roots: e.g. audiology or radiometer.
Note that the Etymonline entry for audio actually seems to say the same thing:
abstracted from word-forming element audio- (q.v.), which is from Latin audire "to hear"
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
edited Sep 5 at 22:07
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
answered Sep 5 at 20:41
sumelic
5,79411344
5,79411344
Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
4
OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 22:23
add a comment |Â
Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
4
OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 22:23
Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
Hmm, so the OED suggests it's mixed etymology (Latin-Greek), just as television, which is arguably bad, but not as bad as I thought. But then again, is Etymonline not to be trusted?
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 20:51
4
4
OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
OED is a serious scholarly work. Etymonline is a paste job.
– fdb
Sep 5 at 22:06
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 22:23
@fdb I don't doubt OED either. I just wondered whether the 1st. p. s. could still be a valid competing theory
– Rafael
Sep 5 at 22:23
add a comment |Â
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What about studio? Would it come from studeo or from studium?
– luchonacho
Sep 7 at 10:06