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After learning about the existence of Klavarskribo, I've been wondering why it's not more widely used. I know practically every piano piece is written in standard notation, but that cannot be the reason, since the same thing could be said about guitar pieces, and yet guitar tabs are extremely popular.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
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After learning about the existence of Klavarskribo, I've been wondering why it's not more widely used. I know practically every piano piece is written in standard notation, but that cannot be the reason, since the same thing could be said about guitar pieces, and yet guitar tabs are extremely popular.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
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One major difference between guitar and piano is there can be up to six different places to play the exact same note on a guitar, and guitar tab shows you exactly which place to play a note. When reading sheet music for guitar, sometimes the position is indicated, but tab very quickly and easily resolves any ambiguity. But with piano, there's one key per musical note, so a regular grand staff is pretty close to piano "tab". I personally don't see how Klavarskribo makes anything easier for the piano, while it seems to be a bit confusing in some ways.
– Todd Wilcox
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Good question BTW (IMHO), and welcome to the site!
– topo morto
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Wow, that notation resembles Synthesia. (On a video game music transcription website I frequent, NinSheetMusic, I've seen several requests for MIDIs so those askers can learn the pieces on Synthesia, implying they understand that program's notation.)
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After learning about the existence of Klavarskribo, I've been wondering why it's not more widely used. I know practically every piano piece is written in standard notation, but that cannot be the reason, since the same thing could be said about guitar pieces, and yet guitar tabs are extremely popular.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
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After learning about the existence of Klavarskribo, I've been wondering why it's not more widely used. I know practically every piano piece is written in standard notation, but that cannot be the reason, since the same thing could be said about guitar pieces, and yet guitar tabs are extremely popular.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
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One major difference between guitar and piano is there can be up to six different places to play the exact same note on a guitar, and guitar tab shows you exactly which place to play a note. When reading sheet music for guitar, sometimes the position is indicated, but tab very quickly and easily resolves any ambiguity. But with piano, there's one key per musical note, so a regular grand staff is pretty close to piano "tab". I personally don't see how Klavarskribo makes anything easier for the piano, while it seems to be a bit confusing in some ways.
– Todd Wilcox
6 hours ago
Good question BTW (IMHO), and welcome to the site!
– topo morto
4 hours ago
Wow, that notation resembles Synthesia. (On a video game music transcription website I frequent, NinSheetMusic, I've seen several requests for MIDIs so those askers can learn the pieces on Synthesia, implying they understand that program's notation.)
– Dekkadeci
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One major difference between guitar and piano is there can be up to six different places to play the exact same note on a guitar, and guitar tab shows you exactly which place to play a note. When reading sheet music for guitar, sometimes the position is indicated, but tab very quickly and easily resolves any ambiguity. But with piano, there's one key per musical note, so a regular grand staff is pretty close to piano "tab". I personally don't see how Klavarskribo makes anything easier for the piano, while it seems to be a bit confusing in some ways.
– Todd Wilcox
6 hours ago
Good question BTW (IMHO), and welcome to the site!
– topo morto
4 hours ago
Wow, that notation resembles Synthesia. (On a video game music transcription website I frequent, NinSheetMusic, I've seen several requests for MIDIs so those askers can learn the pieces on Synthesia, implying they understand that program's notation.)
– Dekkadeci
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One major difference between guitar and piano is there can be up to six different places to play the exact same note on a guitar, and guitar tab shows you exactly which place to play a note. When reading sheet music for guitar, sometimes the position is indicated, but tab very quickly and easily resolves any ambiguity. But with piano, there's one key per musical note, so a regular grand staff is pretty close to piano "tab". I personally don't see how Klavarskribo makes anything easier for the piano, while it seems to be a bit confusing in some ways.
– Todd Wilcox
6 hours ago
One major difference between guitar and piano is there can be up to six different places to play the exact same note on a guitar, and guitar tab shows you exactly which place to play a note. When reading sheet music for guitar, sometimes the position is indicated, but tab very quickly and easily resolves any ambiguity. But with piano, there's one key per musical note, so a regular grand staff is pretty close to piano "tab". I personally don't see how Klavarskribo makes anything easier for the piano, while it seems to be a bit confusing in some ways.
– Todd Wilcox
6 hours ago
Good question BTW (IMHO), and welcome to the site!
– topo morto
4 hours ago
Good question BTW (IMHO), and welcome to the site!
– topo morto
4 hours ago
Wow, that notation resembles Synthesia. (On a video game music transcription website I frequent, NinSheetMusic, I've seen several requests for MIDIs so those askers can learn the pieces on Synthesia, implying they understand that program's notation.)
– Dekkadeci
2 hours ago
Wow, that notation resembles Synthesia. (On a video game music transcription website I frequent, NinSheetMusic, I've seen several requests for MIDIs so those askers can learn the pieces on Synthesia, implying they understand that program's notation.)
– Dekkadeci
2 hours ago
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My opinion (and I'm not sure you will get a result based on a more sound basis): I fail to see, how this can be applied to any non-trivial piano piece due to the width required. Turning pages seems also a non-trivial problem besides the pure convention.
Standard notation packs an astonishing amount of information on a page and the addition of accents, phrasing and whatsoever seems a challenge for Klavarskribo. This looks like a beginner only notation and the incentive to learn it appears therefore similarly limited.
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"why isn't it used more often?"
The wiki article says Klavarskribo was introduced in 1931.
This wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature says tablature's first known occurance was 1300.
It shouldn't be surprising that such a new system is not as widely known/used as another that has been around for centuries.
answered 5 hours ago
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The Klavarskribo seems to involve a quite direct representation of the piano keyboard, but Standard Notation is only a slight abstraction of the piano keyboard; you have to mentally get your head around the change in orientation, and the use of accidentals rather than a separate line for (usually) the black notes, and you're there. So standard notation isn't really that much harder to understand for piano, and as guidot's answer points out, it's very efficient.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
...on the other hand, Standard Notation isn't laid out anything like the guitar, so there's a clearer use case for a guitar notation that's more 'obvious' than Standard Notation.
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My opinion (and I'm not sure you will get a result based on a more sound basis): I fail to see, how this can be applied to any non-trivial piano piece due to the width required. Turning pages seems also a non-trivial problem besides the pure convention.
Standard notation packs an astonishing amount of information on a page and the addition of accents, phrasing and whatsoever seems a challenge for Klavarskribo. This looks like a beginner only notation and the incentive to learn it appears therefore similarly limited.
answered 6 hours ago
guidot
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My opinion (and I'm not sure you will get a result based on a more sound basis): I fail to see, how this can be applied to any non-trivial piano piece due to the width required. Turning pages seems also a non-trivial problem besides the pure convention.
Standard notation packs an astonishing amount of information on a page and the addition of accents, phrasing and whatsoever seems a challenge for Klavarskribo. This looks like a beginner only notation and the incentive to learn it appears therefore similarly limited.
answered 6 hours ago
guidot
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up vote
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up vote
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My opinion (and I'm not sure you will get a result based on a more sound basis): I fail to see, how this can be applied to any non-trivial piano piece due to the width required. Turning pages seems also a non-trivial problem besides the pure convention.
Standard notation packs an astonishing amount of information on a page and the addition of accents, phrasing and whatsoever seems a challenge for Klavarskribo. This looks like a beginner only notation and the incentive to learn it appears therefore similarly limited.
answered 6 hours ago
guidot
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My opinion (and I'm not sure you will get a result based on a more sound basis): I fail to see, how this can be applied to any non-trivial piano piece due to the width required. Turning pages seems also a non-trivial problem besides the pure convention.
Standard notation packs an astonishing amount of information on a page and the addition of accents, phrasing and whatsoever seems a challenge for Klavarskribo. This looks like a beginner only notation and the incentive to learn it appears therefore similarly limited.
answered 6 hours ago
guidot
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"why isn't it used more often?"
The wiki article says Klavarskribo was introduced in 1931.
This wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature says tablature's first known occurance was 1300.
It shouldn't be surprising that such a new system is not as widely known/used as another that has been around for centuries.
answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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up vote
1
down vote
"why isn't it used more often?"
The wiki article says Klavarskribo was introduced in 1931.
This wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature says tablature's first known occurance was 1300.
It shouldn't be surprising that such a new system is not as widely known/used as another that has been around for centuries.
answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,328315
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
"why isn't it used more often?"
The wiki article says Klavarskribo was introduced in 1931.
This wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature says tablature's first known occurance was 1300.
It shouldn't be surprising that such a new system is not as widely known/used as another that has been around for centuries.
answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,328315
"why isn't it used more often?"
The wiki article says Klavarskribo was introduced in 1931.
This wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablature says tablature's first known occurance was 1300.
It shouldn't be surprising that such a new system is not as widely known/used as another that has been around for centuries.
answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,328315
answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
2,328315
answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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answered 5 hours ago
Michael Curtis
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The Klavarskribo seems to involve a quite direct representation of the piano keyboard, but Standard Notation is only a slight abstraction of the piano keyboard; you have to mentally get your head around the change in orientation, and the use of accidentals rather than a separate line for (usually) the black notes, and you're there. So standard notation isn't really that much harder to understand for piano, and as guidot's answer points out, it's very efficient.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
...on the other hand, Standard Notation isn't laid out anything like the guitar, so there's a clearer use case for a guitar notation that's more 'obvious' than Standard Notation.
answered 4 hours ago
topo morto
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up vote
1
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The Klavarskribo seems to involve a quite direct representation of the piano keyboard, but Standard Notation is only a slight abstraction of the piano keyboard; you have to mentally get your head around the change in orientation, and the use of accidentals rather than a separate line for (usually) the black notes, and you're there. So standard notation isn't really that much harder to understand for piano, and as guidot's answer points out, it's very efficient.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
...on the other hand, Standard Notation isn't laid out anything like the guitar, so there's a clearer use case for a guitar notation that's more 'obvious' than Standard Notation.
answered 4 hours ago
topo morto
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up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
The Klavarskribo seems to involve a quite direct representation of the piano keyboard, but Standard Notation is only a slight abstraction of the piano keyboard; you have to mentally get your head around the change in orientation, and the use of accidentals rather than a separate line for (usually) the black notes, and you're there. So standard notation isn't really that much harder to understand for piano, and as guidot's answer points out, it's very efficient.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
...on the other hand, Standard Notation isn't laid out anything like the guitar, so there's a clearer use case for a guitar notation that's more 'obvious' than Standard Notation.
answered 4 hours ago
topo morto
21.2k23691
The Klavarskribo seems to involve a quite direct representation of the piano keyboard, but Standard Notation is only a slight abstraction of the piano keyboard; you have to mentally get your head around the change in orientation, and the use of accidentals rather than a separate line for (usually) the black notes, and you're there. So standard notation isn't really that much harder to understand for piano, and as guidot's answer points out, it's very efficient.
Why isn't the Klavar notation as widely used as guitar tabs?
...on the other hand, Standard Notation isn't laid out anything like the guitar, so there's a clearer use case for a guitar notation that's more 'obvious' than Standard Notation.
answered 4 hours ago
topo morto
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One major difference between guitar and piano is there can be up to six different places to play the exact same note on a guitar, and guitar tab shows you exactly which place to play a note. When reading sheet music for guitar, sometimes the position is indicated, but tab very quickly and easily resolves any ambiguity. But with piano, there's one key per musical note, so a regular grand staff is pretty close to piano "tab". I personally don't see how Klavarskribo makes anything easier for the piano, while it seems to be a bit confusing in some ways.
– Todd Wilcox
6 hours ago
Good question BTW (IMHO), and welcome to the site!
– topo morto
4 hours ago
Wow, that notation resembles Synthesia. (On a video game music transcription website I frequent, NinSheetMusic, I've seen several requests for MIDIs so those askers can learn the pieces on Synthesia, implying they understand that program's notation.)
– Dekkadeci
2 hours ago