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The card Bellowing Tanglewurm has the following two clauses...




Intimidate

Other green creatures you control have intimidate




...and Felhide Petrifier has these two clauses...




Deathtouch

Other Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




It seems to me that the two above cards are needlessly wordy. Instead of Bellowing Tanglewurm's two clauses, I'm thinking it could just be shortened to




Green creatures you control have intimidate




since Bellowing Tanglewurm is also a green creature.



Same would apply for Fellhide Petrifier,




Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




since Fellhide Petrifier is also a Minotaur creature.



Is there a reason that the former two wordings are used instead of the latter two? Is there some rule I'm missing that requires the former two be used instead?










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  • After thinking about it, I can understand the wording on Bellowing Tanglewurm, as the first clause includes the reminder text for the keyword ability Intimidate.
    – Delfino
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    Although the answer points out that there is a slight functional difference; I think the answer and discussion here about redundant text is relevant.
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The card Bellowing Tanglewurm has the following two clauses...




Intimidate

Other green creatures you control have intimidate




...and Felhide Petrifier has these two clauses...




Deathtouch

Other Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




It seems to me that the two above cards are needlessly wordy. Instead of Bellowing Tanglewurm's two clauses, I'm thinking it could just be shortened to




Green creatures you control have intimidate




since Bellowing Tanglewurm is also a green creature.



Same would apply for Fellhide Petrifier,




Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




since Fellhide Petrifier is also a Minotaur creature.



Is there a reason that the former two wordings are used instead of the latter two? Is there some rule I'm missing that requires the former two be used instead?










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  • After thinking about it, I can understand the wording on Bellowing Tanglewurm, as the first clause includes the reminder text for the keyword ability Intimidate.
    – Delfino
    2 hours ago






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    Although the answer points out that there is a slight functional difference; I think the answer and discussion here about redundant text is relevant.
    – GendoIkari
    1 hour ago












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The card Bellowing Tanglewurm has the following two clauses...




Intimidate

Other green creatures you control have intimidate




...and Felhide Petrifier has these two clauses...




Deathtouch

Other Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




It seems to me that the two above cards are needlessly wordy. Instead of Bellowing Tanglewurm's two clauses, I'm thinking it could just be shortened to




Green creatures you control have intimidate




since Bellowing Tanglewurm is also a green creature.



Same would apply for Fellhide Petrifier,




Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




since Fellhide Petrifier is also a Minotaur creature.



Is there a reason that the former two wordings are used instead of the latter two? Is there some rule I'm missing that requires the former two be used instead?










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The card Bellowing Tanglewurm has the following two clauses...




Intimidate

Other green creatures you control have intimidate




...and Felhide Petrifier has these two clauses...




Deathtouch

Other Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




It seems to me that the two above cards are needlessly wordy. Instead of Bellowing Tanglewurm's two clauses, I'm thinking it could just be shortened to




Green creatures you control have intimidate




since Bellowing Tanglewurm is also a green creature.



Same would apply for Fellhide Petrifier,




Minotaur creatures you control have deathtouch




since Fellhide Petrifier is also a Minotaur creature.



Is there a reason that the former two wordings are used instead of the latter two? Is there some rule I'm missing that requires the former two be used instead?







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  • After thinking about it, I can understand the wording on Bellowing Tanglewurm, as the first clause includes the reminder text for the keyword ability Intimidate.
    – Delfino
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    Although the answer points out that there is a slight functional difference; I think the answer and discussion here about redundant text is relevant.
    – GendoIkari
    1 hour ago
















  • After thinking about it, I can understand the wording on Bellowing Tanglewurm, as the first clause includes the reminder text for the keyword ability Intimidate.
    – Delfino
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    Although the answer points out that there is a slight functional difference; I think the answer and discussion here about redundant text is relevant.
    – GendoIkari
    1 hour ago















After thinking about it, I can understand the wording on Bellowing Tanglewurm, as the first clause includes the reminder text for the keyword ability Intimidate.
– Delfino
2 hours ago




After thinking about it, I can understand the wording on Bellowing Tanglewurm, as the first clause includes the reminder text for the keyword ability Intimidate.
– Delfino
2 hours ago




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2




Although the answer points out that there is a slight functional difference; I think the answer and discussion here about redundant text is relevant.
– GendoIkari
1 hour ago




Although the answer points out that there is a slight functional difference; I think the answer and discussion here about redundant text is relevant.
– GendoIkari
1 hour ago










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There are other cards that care about abilities on creatures that don't require them to be on the battlefield. For example Soulflayer has the ability (in addition to Delve):




If a creature card with flying was exiled with Soulflayer's delve ability, Soulflayer has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, reach, trample, and vigilance.







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    In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
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The current template is easier for players to understand



From the horse's mouth:





Does the "Keyword, Other creatures you control have Keyword" templating really improve understanding that much? It seems very wordy.




Playtesting has shown that it does.







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There are other cards that care about abilities on creatures that don't require them to be on the battlefield. For example Soulflayer has the ability (in addition to Delve):




If a creature card with flying was exiled with Soulflayer's delve ability, Soulflayer has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, reach, trample, and vigilance.







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    In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
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There are other cards that care about abilities on creatures that don't require them to be on the battlefield. For example Soulflayer has the ability (in addition to Delve):




If a creature card with flying was exiled with Soulflayer's delve ability, Soulflayer has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, reach, trample, and vigilance.







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  • 2




    In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
    – Malco
    1 hour ago












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There are other cards that care about abilities on creatures that don't require them to be on the battlefield. For example Soulflayer has the ability (in addition to Delve):




If a creature card with flying was exiled with Soulflayer's delve ability, Soulflayer has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, reach, trample, and vigilance.







share|improve this answer












There are other cards that care about abilities on creatures that don't require them to be on the battlefield. For example Soulflayer has the ability (in addition to Delve):




If a creature card with flying was exiled with Soulflayer's delve ability, Soulflayer has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, reach, trample, and vigilance.








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    In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
    – Malco
    1 hour ago












  • 2




    In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
    – Malco
    1 hour ago







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In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
– Malco
1 hour ago




In addition you can change a creatures colour through the use cards like [mtg:Purelace] and others. So the change in the OP would be a functional one.
– Malco
1 hour ago










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The current template is easier for players to understand



From the horse's mouth:





Does the "Keyword, Other creatures you control have Keyword" templating really improve understanding that much? It seems very wordy.




Playtesting has shown that it does.







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  • There are better quotes in the blog, but I'm not in a good position to search for them right now. If anyone wants to replace my quote with a more clear one, be my guest.
    – Arcanist Lupus
    1 hour ago














up vote
3
down vote













The current template is easier for players to understand



From the horse's mouth:





Does the "Keyword, Other creatures you control have Keyword" templating really improve understanding that much? It seems very wordy.




Playtesting has shown that it does.







share|improve this answer




















  • There are better quotes in the blog, but I'm not in a good position to search for them right now. If anyone wants to replace my quote with a more clear one, be my guest.
    – Arcanist Lupus
    1 hour ago












up vote
3
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up vote
3
down vote









The current template is easier for players to understand



From the horse's mouth:





Does the "Keyword, Other creatures you control have Keyword" templating really improve understanding that much? It seems very wordy.




Playtesting has shown that it does.







share|improve this answer












The current template is easier for players to understand



From the horse's mouth:





Does the "Keyword, Other creatures you control have Keyword" templating really improve understanding that much? It seems very wordy.




Playtesting has shown that it does.








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  • There are better quotes in the blog, but I'm not in a good position to search for them right now. If anyone wants to replace my quote with a more clear one, be my guest.
    – Arcanist Lupus
    1 hour ago
















  • There are better quotes in the blog, but I'm not in a good position to search for them right now. If anyone wants to replace my quote with a more clear one, be my guest.
    – Arcanist Lupus
    1 hour ago















There are better quotes in the blog, but I'm not in a good position to search for them right now. If anyone wants to replace my quote with a more clear one, be my guest.
– Arcanist Lupus
1 hour ago




There are better quotes in the blog, but I'm not in a good position to search for them right now. If anyone wants to replace my quote with a more clear one, be my guest.
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