Should one cite unethical research that may contradict one's current research?
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Most people are familiar with the controversy over citing Nazi medical experimentation and related unethical findings. I'm not questioning that.
Assuming that citing unethical research in order to bolster or support one's own findings is, in fact, unethical, does the situation change if the prior unethical findings may contradict, falsify, or otherwise be potentially detrimental to one's own findings?
For example, many feel that publishing this is unethical:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Assuming this to be true, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Assuming that would be, in fact, unethical, would this be any different:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Goody-Two-Shoes, Angel, Seraphim, Hero, Superhero, and Person-Who-Was-Mostly-Good-Except-That-He-Jaywalked-Once-When-He-Was-Eight-And-Was-Continuously-And-Justly-Punished-Throughout-His-Lifetime-For-Said-Act (1932) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) obtained a contrary result in which splines cannot exist in six-space, but we only mention this because ethical requirements require that we disclose to you that we are are aware of a prior result that may affect our findings. In this case the researcher was, like, a super bad guy and you, like, totally should ignore his findings because he was even more evil than Dr. Doom and his paper is probably full of shoddy praxis, negligent notetaking, and even outright fabrications.
Assuming that a spline can actually exist in six-space, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Generally speaking, is it more ethical to cite or not cite the potentially problematic prior result?
I suppose the gist of this question is which ethical duty is paramount:
- The duty to honestly account for the current state of research and disclose potential findings that may affect the current paper.
- The duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research.
Could this one of the "unusual circumstances" mentioned in this answer?
I suppose that the Don't Cite Unethical Research rule could be clarified as actually meaning that it is unethical to benefit from prior unethical results, so a citation that does not benefit the later researcher (but in fact serves more as a disclaimer) would be allowed. Would that be more along the lines of how this would actually be handled?
Please note that no unethical acts were committed against splines during the creation of this question. All splines have and will evermore retain the inalienable right under the Best Practices of Smith and Johnson (1878) to choose when and by whom they will be reticulated. Please report suspicions of spline abuse to your local research ethics office or local police.
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Most people are familiar with the controversy over citing Nazi medical experimentation and related unethical findings. I'm not questioning that.
Assuming that citing unethical research in order to bolster or support one's own findings is, in fact, unethical, does the situation change if the prior unethical findings may contradict, falsify, or otherwise be potentially detrimental to one's own findings?
For example, many feel that publishing this is unethical:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Assuming this to be true, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Assuming that would be, in fact, unethical, would this be any different:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Goody-Two-Shoes, Angel, Seraphim, Hero, Superhero, and Person-Who-Was-Mostly-Good-Except-That-He-Jaywalked-Once-When-He-Was-Eight-And-Was-Continuously-And-Justly-Punished-Throughout-His-Lifetime-For-Said-Act (1932) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) obtained a contrary result in which splines cannot exist in six-space, but we only mention this because ethical requirements require that we disclose to you that we are are aware of a prior result that may affect our findings. In this case the researcher was, like, a super bad guy and you, like, totally should ignore his findings because he was even more evil than Dr. Doom and his paper is probably full of shoddy praxis, negligent notetaking, and even outright fabrications.
Assuming that a spline can actually exist in six-space, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Generally speaking, is it more ethical to cite or not cite the potentially problematic prior result?
I suppose the gist of this question is which ethical duty is paramount:
- The duty to honestly account for the current state of research and disclose potential findings that may affect the current paper.
- The duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research.
Could this one of the "unusual circumstances" mentioned in this answer?
I suppose that the Don't Cite Unethical Research rule could be clarified as actually meaning that it is unethical to benefit from prior unethical results, so a citation that does not benefit the later researcher (but in fact serves more as a disclaimer) would be allowed. Would that be more along the lines of how this would actually be handled?
Please note that no unethical acts were committed against splines during the creation of this question. All splines have and will evermore retain the inalienable right under the Best Practices of Smith and Johnson (1878) to choose when and by whom they will be reticulated. Please report suspicions of spline abuse to your local research ethics office or local police.
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There is no "duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research". Science is not a game where a result that was achieved by breaking rules doesn't count. And citation is not endorsement, or else how can you criticize bad studies? The only duty is honesty. If scientific results were obtained unethically, the question is: Can they still be trusted? (In the case of Nazi research, the question is complex and depends highly on the domain -- a lot of the medical research was tainted by bias, and the maths was generally low-quality due to brain drain, but a lot can still be used.)
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Most people are familiar with the controversy over citing Nazi medical experimentation and related unethical findings. I'm not questioning that.
Assuming that citing unethical research in order to bolster or support one's own findings is, in fact, unethical, does the situation change if the prior unethical findings may contradict, falsify, or otherwise be potentially detrimental to one's own findings?
For example, many feel that publishing this is unethical:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Assuming this to be true, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Assuming that would be, in fact, unethical, would this be any different:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Goody-Two-Shoes, Angel, Seraphim, Hero, Superhero, and Person-Who-Was-Mostly-Good-Except-That-He-Jaywalked-Once-When-He-Was-Eight-And-Was-Continuously-And-Justly-Punished-Throughout-His-Lifetime-For-Said-Act (1932) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) obtained a contrary result in which splines cannot exist in six-space, but we only mention this because ethical requirements require that we disclose to you that we are are aware of a prior result that may affect our findings. In this case the researcher was, like, a super bad guy and you, like, totally should ignore his findings because he was even more evil than Dr. Doom and his paper is probably full of shoddy praxis, negligent notetaking, and even outright fabrications.
Assuming that a spline can actually exist in six-space, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Generally speaking, is it more ethical to cite or not cite the potentially problematic prior result?
I suppose the gist of this question is which ethical duty is paramount:
- The duty to honestly account for the current state of research and disclose potential findings that may affect the current paper.
- The duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research.
Could this one of the "unusual circumstances" mentioned in this answer?
I suppose that the Don't Cite Unethical Research rule could be clarified as actually meaning that it is unethical to benefit from prior unethical results, so a citation that does not benefit the later researcher (but in fact serves more as a disclaimer) would be allowed. Would that be more along the lines of how this would actually be handled?
Please note that no unethical acts were committed against splines during the creation of this question. All splines have and will evermore retain the inalienable right under the Best Practices of Smith and Johnson (1878) to choose when and by whom they will be reticulated. Please report suspicions of spline abuse to your local research ethics office or local police.
publications research-process ethics research-misconduct
Most people are familiar with the controversy over citing Nazi medical experimentation and related unethical findings. I'm not questioning that.
Assuming that citing unethical research in order to bolster or support one's own findings is, in fact, unethical, does the situation change if the prior unethical findings may contradict, falsify, or otherwise be potentially detrimental to one's own findings?
For example, many feel that publishing this is unethical:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Assuming this to be true, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Assuming that would be, in fact, unethical, would this be any different:
In this paper, we demonstrate that splines are reticulatable in six-space under the Transhalpine Coordinate System. Goody-Two-Shoes, Angel, Seraphim, Hero, Superhero, and Person-Who-Was-Mostly-Good-Except-That-He-Jaywalked-Once-When-He-Was-Eight-And-Was-Continuously-And-Justly-Punished-Throughout-His-Lifetime-For-Said-Act (1932) demonstrated that a spline can exist in six-space. Evil Nazi Supervillain (1941) obtained a contrary result in which splines cannot exist in six-space, but we only mention this because ethical requirements require that we disclose to you that we are are aware of a prior result that may affect our findings. In this case the researcher was, like, a super bad guy and you, like, totally should ignore his findings because he was even more evil than Dr. Doom and his paper is probably full of shoddy praxis, negligent notetaking, and even outright fabrications.
Assuming that a spline can actually exist in six-space, our model demonstrates how such as spline can be reticulated with respect to the Transhalpine system, to wit....
Generally speaking, is it more ethical to cite or not cite the potentially problematic prior result?
I suppose the gist of this question is which ethical duty is paramount:
- The duty to honestly account for the current state of research and disclose potential findings that may affect the current paper.
- The duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research.
Could this one of the "unusual circumstances" mentioned in this answer?
I suppose that the Don't Cite Unethical Research rule could be clarified as actually meaning that it is unethical to benefit from prior unethical results, so a citation that does not benefit the later researcher (but in fact serves more as a disclaimer) would be allowed. Would that be more along the lines of how this would actually be handled?
Please note that no unethical acts were committed against splines during the creation of this question. All splines have and will evermore retain the inalienable right under the Best Practices of Smith and Johnson (1878) to choose when and by whom they will be reticulated. Please report suspicions of spline abuse to your local research ethics office or local police.
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There is no "duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research". Science is not a game where a result that was achieved by breaking rules doesn't count. And citation is not endorsement, or else how can you criticize bad studies? The only duty is honesty. If scientific results were obtained unethically, the question is: Can they still be trusted? (In the case of Nazi research, the question is complex and depends highly on the domain -- a lot of the medical research was tainted by bias, and the maths was generally low-quality due to brain drain, but a lot can still be used.)
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There is no "duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research". Science is not a game where a result that was achieved by breaking rules doesn't count. And citation is not endorsement, or else how can you criticize bad studies? The only duty is honesty. If scientific results were obtained unethically, the question is: Can they still be trusted? (In the case of Nazi research, the question is complex and depends highly on the domain -- a lot of the medical research was tainted by bias, and the maths was generally low-quality due to brain drain, but a lot can still be used.)
â darij grinberg
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There is no "duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research". Science is not a game where a result that was achieved by breaking rules doesn't count. And citation is not endorsement, or else how can you criticize bad studies? The only duty is honesty. If scientific results were obtained unethically, the question is: Can they still be trusted? (In the case of Nazi research, the question is complex and depends highly on the domain -- a lot of the medical research was tainted by bias, and the maths was generally low-quality due to brain drain, but a lot can still be used.)
â darij grinberg
18 mins ago
There is no "duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research". Science is not a game where a result that was achieved by breaking rules doesn't count. And citation is not endorsement, or else how can you criticize bad studies? The only duty is honesty. If scientific results were obtained unethically, the question is: Can they still be trusted? (In the case of Nazi research, the question is complex and depends highly on the domain -- a lot of the medical research was tainted by bias, and the maths was generally low-quality due to brain drain, but a lot can still be used.)
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Are you conflating evil people with scientific results that they achieve (by valid means)? They should not be conflated. Condemn the people and the evil acts that they do, but not any valid results obtained by honorable means. Evil monsters don't need to always act in an evil manner.
There is, for example, a lot of both computer engineering and mathematics that was done by total racists. This was in the US and in fairly recent years. This doesn't make it invalid to use computers, nor does it invalidate the mathematics itself.
It isn't even necessary to state that X was an evil monster otherwise when citing X. However, if you are writing about racism or other evils, then it is perfectly appropriate to point out the flaws.
Of course, the spine research would be discredited if to do it evil acts needed to be carried out, but you don't seem to be saying that here.
What is true is true, even if uttered by monsters. What is false is false, even if uttered by angels.
DonâÂÂt think MenglerâÂÂs results were honorable on any level...
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I think it's going to be difficult to answer a complicated question like this with anything besides "it depends..." unless there is a less trivial example given.
I also find the trivial example a bit bothersome, because although I understand what you are trying to get at with your arbitrary splines example, the actual real-life work you are weighing it against includes destructive medical experimentation on individuals who died or were permanently harmed for the remainder of their lives, and I don't think making a joke of it about "unethical acts committed against splines" is helpful to the discussion.
The answer you refer to basically says already in citing Baruch Cohen that the answer of when to cite questionable research depends on the circumstances, and I don't think there is anything to add to that:
In essence, Cohen argues that in certain extreme cases it may be possible to use the data, but only when accompanied by strong condemnation of the methods and only when it concerns information that is both otherwise impossible to obtain and of life-saving importance.
In summary, if not citing unethically produced research is likely to cause harm then consideration should be given to citing such research. In a trivial or arbitrary example, like the one you give, it is impossible to evaluate the level of harm so it is impossible to weigh this against the concerns with citing unethically produced research.
Note that in some cases it may be possible to refer to unethical research without citing it directly, for example by citing research that specifically critiques that prior work.
I would also refer to another Academia.SE question that addresses the less extreme example of citing retracted works: Is it right to cite a retracted research article?
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Are you conflating evil people with scientific results that they achieve (by valid means)? They should not be conflated. Condemn the people and the evil acts that they do, but not any valid results obtained by honorable means. Evil monsters don't need to always act in an evil manner.
There is, for example, a lot of both computer engineering and mathematics that was done by total racists. This was in the US and in fairly recent years. This doesn't make it invalid to use computers, nor does it invalidate the mathematics itself.
It isn't even necessary to state that X was an evil monster otherwise when citing X. However, if you are writing about racism or other evils, then it is perfectly appropriate to point out the flaws.
Of course, the spine research would be discredited if to do it evil acts needed to be carried out, but you don't seem to be saying that here.
What is true is true, even if uttered by monsters. What is false is false, even if uttered by angels.
DonâÂÂt think MenglerâÂÂs results were honorable on any level...
â Solar Mike
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Are you conflating evil people with scientific results that they achieve (by valid means)? They should not be conflated. Condemn the people and the evil acts that they do, but not any valid results obtained by honorable means. Evil monsters don't need to always act in an evil manner.
There is, for example, a lot of both computer engineering and mathematics that was done by total racists. This was in the US and in fairly recent years. This doesn't make it invalid to use computers, nor does it invalidate the mathematics itself.
It isn't even necessary to state that X was an evil monster otherwise when citing X. However, if you are writing about racism or other evils, then it is perfectly appropriate to point out the flaws.
Of course, the spine research would be discredited if to do it evil acts needed to be carried out, but you don't seem to be saying that here.
What is true is true, even if uttered by monsters. What is false is false, even if uttered by angels.
DonâÂÂt think MenglerâÂÂs results were honorable on any level...
â Solar Mike
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Are you conflating evil people with scientific results that they achieve (by valid means)? They should not be conflated. Condemn the people and the evil acts that they do, but not any valid results obtained by honorable means. Evil monsters don't need to always act in an evil manner.
There is, for example, a lot of both computer engineering and mathematics that was done by total racists. This was in the US and in fairly recent years. This doesn't make it invalid to use computers, nor does it invalidate the mathematics itself.
It isn't even necessary to state that X was an evil monster otherwise when citing X. However, if you are writing about racism or other evils, then it is perfectly appropriate to point out the flaws.
Of course, the spine research would be discredited if to do it evil acts needed to be carried out, but you don't seem to be saying that here.
What is true is true, even if uttered by monsters. What is false is false, even if uttered by angels.
Are you conflating evil people with scientific results that they achieve (by valid means)? They should not be conflated. Condemn the people and the evil acts that they do, but not any valid results obtained by honorable means. Evil monsters don't need to always act in an evil manner.
There is, for example, a lot of both computer engineering and mathematics that was done by total racists. This was in the US and in fairly recent years. This doesn't make it invalid to use computers, nor does it invalidate the mathematics itself.
It isn't even necessary to state that X was an evil monster otherwise when citing X. However, if you are writing about racism or other evils, then it is perfectly appropriate to point out the flaws.
Of course, the spine research would be discredited if to do it evil acts needed to be carried out, but you don't seem to be saying that here.
What is true is true, even if uttered by monsters. What is false is false, even if uttered by angels.
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DonâÂÂt think MenglerâÂÂs results were honorable on any level...
â Solar Mike
4 mins ago
DonâÂÂt think MenglerâÂÂs results were honorable on any level...
â Solar Mike
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DonâÂÂt think MenglerâÂÂs results were honorable on any level...
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I think it's going to be difficult to answer a complicated question like this with anything besides "it depends..." unless there is a less trivial example given.
I also find the trivial example a bit bothersome, because although I understand what you are trying to get at with your arbitrary splines example, the actual real-life work you are weighing it against includes destructive medical experimentation on individuals who died or were permanently harmed for the remainder of their lives, and I don't think making a joke of it about "unethical acts committed against splines" is helpful to the discussion.
The answer you refer to basically says already in citing Baruch Cohen that the answer of when to cite questionable research depends on the circumstances, and I don't think there is anything to add to that:
In essence, Cohen argues that in certain extreme cases it may be possible to use the data, but only when accompanied by strong condemnation of the methods and only when it concerns information that is both otherwise impossible to obtain and of life-saving importance.
In summary, if not citing unethically produced research is likely to cause harm then consideration should be given to citing such research. In a trivial or arbitrary example, like the one you give, it is impossible to evaluate the level of harm so it is impossible to weigh this against the concerns with citing unethically produced research.
Note that in some cases it may be possible to refer to unethical research without citing it directly, for example by citing research that specifically critiques that prior work.
I would also refer to another Academia.SE question that addresses the less extreme example of citing retracted works: Is it right to cite a retracted research article?
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I think it's going to be difficult to answer a complicated question like this with anything besides "it depends..." unless there is a less trivial example given.
I also find the trivial example a bit bothersome, because although I understand what you are trying to get at with your arbitrary splines example, the actual real-life work you are weighing it against includes destructive medical experimentation on individuals who died or were permanently harmed for the remainder of their lives, and I don't think making a joke of it about "unethical acts committed against splines" is helpful to the discussion.
The answer you refer to basically says already in citing Baruch Cohen that the answer of when to cite questionable research depends on the circumstances, and I don't think there is anything to add to that:
In essence, Cohen argues that in certain extreme cases it may be possible to use the data, but only when accompanied by strong condemnation of the methods and only when it concerns information that is both otherwise impossible to obtain and of life-saving importance.
In summary, if not citing unethically produced research is likely to cause harm then consideration should be given to citing such research. In a trivial or arbitrary example, like the one you give, it is impossible to evaluate the level of harm so it is impossible to weigh this against the concerns with citing unethically produced research.
Note that in some cases it may be possible to refer to unethical research without citing it directly, for example by citing research that specifically critiques that prior work.
I would also refer to another Academia.SE question that addresses the less extreme example of citing retracted works: Is it right to cite a retracted research article?
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I think it's going to be difficult to answer a complicated question like this with anything besides "it depends..." unless there is a less trivial example given.
I also find the trivial example a bit bothersome, because although I understand what you are trying to get at with your arbitrary splines example, the actual real-life work you are weighing it against includes destructive medical experimentation on individuals who died or were permanently harmed for the remainder of their lives, and I don't think making a joke of it about "unethical acts committed against splines" is helpful to the discussion.
The answer you refer to basically says already in citing Baruch Cohen that the answer of when to cite questionable research depends on the circumstances, and I don't think there is anything to add to that:
In essence, Cohen argues that in certain extreme cases it may be possible to use the data, but only when accompanied by strong condemnation of the methods and only when it concerns information that is both otherwise impossible to obtain and of life-saving importance.
In summary, if not citing unethically produced research is likely to cause harm then consideration should be given to citing such research. In a trivial or arbitrary example, like the one you give, it is impossible to evaluate the level of harm so it is impossible to weigh this against the concerns with citing unethically produced research.
Note that in some cases it may be possible to refer to unethical research without citing it directly, for example by citing research that specifically critiques that prior work.
I would also refer to another Academia.SE question that addresses the less extreme example of citing retracted works: Is it right to cite a retracted research article?
I think it's going to be difficult to answer a complicated question like this with anything besides "it depends..." unless there is a less trivial example given.
I also find the trivial example a bit bothersome, because although I understand what you are trying to get at with your arbitrary splines example, the actual real-life work you are weighing it against includes destructive medical experimentation on individuals who died or were permanently harmed for the remainder of their lives, and I don't think making a joke of it about "unethical acts committed against splines" is helpful to the discussion.
The answer you refer to basically says already in citing Baruch Cohen that the answer of when to cite questionable research depends on the circumstances, and I don't think there is anything to add to that:
In essence, Cohen argues that in certain extreme cases it may be possible to use the data, but only when accompanied by strong condemnation of the methods and only when it concerns information that is both otherwise impossible to obtain and of life-saving importance.
In summary, if not citing unethically produced research is likely to cause harm then consideration should be given to citing such research. In a trivial or arbitrary example, like the one you give, it is impossible to evaluate the level of harm so it is impossible to weigh this against the concerns with citing unethically produced research.
Note that in some cases it may be possible to refer to unethical research without citing it directly, for example by citing research that specifically critiques that prior work.
I would also refer to another Academia.SE question that addresses the less extreme example of citing retracted works: Is it right to cite a retracted research article?
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There is no "duty to not acknowledge or use unethical research". Science is not a game where a result that was achieved by breaking rules doesn't count. And citation is not endorsement, or else how can you criticize bad studies? The only duty is honesty. If scientific results were obtained unethically, the question is: Can they still be trusted? (In the case of Nazi research, the question is complex and depends highly on the domain -- a lot of the medical research was tainted by bias, and the maths was generally low-quality due to brain drain, but a lot can still be used.)
â darij grinberg
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