A Chess Puzzle in Reverse

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Here with a quick chess puzzle one of my friends gave me.



The puzzle is a bit interesting; it is White to move and not mate in 1, which is the reverse objective of the usual puzzle (hence the title). The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position. I also have a few hints, given to me by the same friend:



Hint 1:




check the tags, it's not just a chess puzzle




Hint 2:




Without changing the position of the pieces, how would it be possible for White to make a legal move that isn't checkmate?











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  • Is the part about only having FEN part of the puzzle? If not, I can edit in a chess board real quick.
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Here with a quick chess puzzle one of my friends gave me.



The puzzle is a bit interesting; it is White to move and not mate in 1, which is the reverse objective of the usual puzzle (hence the title). The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position. I also have a few hints, given to me by the same friend:



Hint 1:




check the tags, it's not just a chess puzzle




Hint 2:




Without changing the position of the pieces, how would it be possible for White to make a legal move that isn't checkmate?











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  • Is the part about only having FEN part of the puzzle? If not, I can edit in a chess board real quick.
    – Quintec
    34 mins ago










  • It would be fine with a board in, I honestly couldn't figure out how to put one in.
    – Excited Raichu
    32 mins ago












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enter image description here



Here with a quick chess puzzle one of my friends gave me.



The puzzle is a bit interesting; it is White to move and not mate in 1, which is the reverse objective of the usual puzzle (hence the title). The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position. I also have a few hints, given to me by the same friend:



Hint 1:




check the tags, it's not just a chess puzzle




Hint 2:




Without changing the position of the pieces, how would it be possible for White to make a legal move that isn't checkmate?











share|improve this question















enter image description here



Here with a quick chess puzzle one of my friends gave me.



The puzzle is a bit interesting; it is White to move and not mate in 1, which is the reverse objective of the usual puzzle (hence the title). The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position. I also have a few hints, given to me by the same friend:



Hint 1:




check the tags, it's not just a chess puzzle




Hint 2:




Without changing the position of the pieces, how would it be possible for White to make a legal move that isn't checkmate?








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  • Is the part about only having FEN part of the puzzle? If not, I can edit in a chess board real quick.
    – Quintec
    34 mins ago










  • It would be fine with a board in, I honestly couldn't figure out how to put one in.
    – Excited Raichu
    32 mins ago
















  • Is the part about only having FEN part of the puzzle? If not, I can edit in a chess board real quick.
    – Quintec
    34 mins ago










  • It would be fine with a board in, I honestly couldn't figure out how to put one in.
    – Excited Raichu
    32 mins ago















Is the part about only having FEN part of the puzzle? If not, I can edit in a chess board real quick.
– Quintec
34 mins ago




Is the part about only having FEN part of the puzzle? If not, I can edit in a chess board real quick.
– Quintec
34 mins ago












It would be fine with a board in, I honestly couldn't figure out how to put one in.
– Excited Raichu
32 mins ago




It would be fine with a board in, I honestly couldn't figure out how to put one in.
– Excited Raichu
32 mins ago










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The Puzzle states: "The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position.". Black has still all pieces while white is missing 7 pieces. To get the black pawns "behind" the white pawns at least 8 pieces would need to be taken by the pawns (probably even more in the given position). With only 7 pieces missing this position is impossible.


This means that the orientation of the board is wrong once again. After rotating the board by 180 degrees, moving one of the pawns left or right from the king would be a valid non-mating move.


The puzzle title seems to be a hint as well.







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  • This was the intended answer.
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  • In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
    – tmpearce
    2 mins ago

















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Well, given lateral thinking, some standard chess answers would be




resigning and/or offering a draw, both of which don't move the pieces.







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  • (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
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So with the board in its current rotation;




You can move either of the pawns abreast the King and not end up in checkmate in a single move on black's play.






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    The Puzzle states: "The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position.". Black has still all pieces while white is missing 7 pieces. To get the black pawns "behind" the white pawns at least 8 pieces would need to be taken by the pawns (probably even more in the given position). With only 7 pieces missing this position is impossible.


    This means that the orientation of the board is wrong once again. After rotating the board by 180 degrees, moving one of the pawns left or right from the king would be a valid non-mating move.


    The puzzle title seems to be a hint as well.







    share|improve this answer






















    • This was the intended answer.
      – Excited Raichu
      5 mins ago










    • In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
      – tmpearce
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    The Puzzle states: "The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position.". Black has still all pieces while white is missing 7 pieces. To get the black pawns "behind" the white pawns at least 8 pieces would need to be taken by the pawns (probably even more in the given position). With only 7 pieces missing this position is impossible.


    This means that the orientation of the board is wrong once again. After rotating the board by 180 degrees, moving one of the pawns left or right from the king would be a valid non-mating move.


    The puzzle title seems to be a hint as well.







    share|improve this answer






















    • This was the intended answer.
      – Excited Raichu
      5 mins ago










    • In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
      – tmpearce
      2 mins ago












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    The Puzzle states: "The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position.". Black has still all pieces while white is missing 7 pieces. To get the black pawns "behind" the white pawns at least 8 pieces would need to be taken by the pawns (probably even more in the given position). With only 7 pieces missing this position is impossible.


    This means that the orientation of the board is wrong once again. After rotating the board by 180 degrees, moving one of the pawns left or right from the king would be a valid non-mating move.


    The puzzle title seems to be a hint as well.







    share|improve this answer















    The Puzzle states: "The puzzle is a legal position from the starting position.". Black has still all pieces while white is missing 7 pieces. To get the black pawns "behind" the white pawns at least 8 pieces would need to be taken by the pawns (probably even more in the given position). With only 7 pieces missing this position is impossible.


    This means that the orientation of the board is wrong once again. After rotating the board by 180 degrees, moving one of the pawns left or right from the king would be a valid non-mating move.


    The puzzle title seems to be a hint as well.








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    • This was the intended answer.
      – Excited Raichu
      5 mins ago










    • In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
      – tmpearce
      2 mins ago
















    • This was the intended answer.
      – Excited Raichu
      5 mins ago










    • In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
      – tmpearce
      2 mins ago















    This was the intended answer.
    – Excited Raichu
    5 mins ago




    This was the intended answer.
    – Excited Raichu
    5 mins ago












    In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
    – tmpearce
    2 mins ago




    In the rotated-board scenario, given the positions of the white pawns, how would the black rooks have gotten behind?
    – tmpearce
    2 mins ago










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    Well, given lateral thinking, some standard chess answers would be




    resigning and/or offering a draw, both of which don't move the pieces.







    share|improve this answer




















    • (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
      – Excited Raichu
      29 mins ago














    up vote
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    Well, given lateral thinking, some standard chess answers would be




    resigning and/or offering a draw, both of which don't move the pieces.







    share|improve this answer




















    • (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
      – Excited Raichu
      29 mins ago












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    up vote
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    Well, given lateral thinking, some standard chess answers would be




    resigning and/or offering a draw, both of which don't move the pieces.







    share|improve this answer












    Well, given lateral thinking, some standard chess answers would be




    resigning and/or offering a draw, both of which don't move the pieces.








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    • (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
      – Excited Raichu
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    • (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
      – Excited Raichu
      29 mins ago















    (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
    – Excited Raichu
    29 mins ago




    (+1) Not what I was thinking, but hey, it works!
    – Excited Raichu
    29 mins ago










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    So with the board in its current rotation;




    You can move either of the pawns abreast the King and not end up in checkmate in a single move on black's play.






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      So with the board in its current rotation;




      You can move either of the pawns abreast the King and not end up in checkmate in a single move on black's play.






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        So with the board in its current rotation;




        You can move either of the pawns abreast the King and not end up in checkmate in a single move on black's play.






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        So with the board in its current rotation;




        You can move either of the pawns abreast the King and not end up in checkmate in a single move on black's play.







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