I snapped on my boss, when and how should I apologize?
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I recently snapped on my boss. He's the CEO of a small company.
I regularly have scheduled meetings with another boss where you talk about work life, complaints, suggestions, etc. In the last year or so we've been having growing pains.
The CEO has general disregard for other employee's working space. He's very loud and obnoxious. As a developer, I often feel forced to move to random rooms around the office for some quiet. I have verified other employees feel similar, so I'd like to believe the problem isn't entirely on me. The developers usually end up huddled in a random room (with uncomfortable seating) together working.
Generally I'm forced to be migratory and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for. I've brought this up in those private meetings for over a year now to no avail.
I'm very frustrated by this. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want to be confrontational. But it seems like my complaints have not been taken seriously by the CEO. In my opinion my immediate boss is sympathetic to my issues, CEO is just a little dense is all.
So today, I moved to Room B from the main office because the CEO was being very loud on a call. He literally screams into the microphone compared to other employees. CEO comes stomping down ten minutes later and declares he reserved the room (which he did). I snapped and asked him why he couldn't use another meeting room. Told him I was fed up of being kicked out from my desk, or wherever I'm forced to work, at his whim and that he/the company has done nothing to resolve this issue.
I don't want to be angry at the CEO. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want un-needed stress; programming is bad enough on its own. I would even appreciate a real attempt to address the issue. Thus far, being perpetually migratory has been the "solution".
In some ways, I regret going off. It wasn't appropriate to do, but I also know that issues often go to the edge at my workplace before they're handled. Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
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I recently snapped on my boss. He's the CEO of a small company.
I regularly have scheduled meetings with another boss where you talk about work life, complaints, suggestions, etc. In the last year or so we've been having growing pains.
The CEO has general disregard for other employee's working space. He's very loud and obnoxious. As a developer, I often feel forced to move to random rooms around the office for some quiet. I have verified other employees feel similar, so I'd like to believe the problem isn't entirely on me. The developers usually end up huddled in a random room (with uncomfortable seating) together working.
Generally I'm forced to be migratory and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for. I've brought this up in those private meetings for over a year now to no avail.
I'm very frustrated by this. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want to be confrontational. But it seems like my complaints have not been taken seriously by the CEO. In my opinion my immediate boss is sympathetic to my issues, CEO is just a little dense is all.
So today, I moved to Room B from the main office because the CEO was being very loud on a call. He literally screams into the microphone compared to other employees. CEO comes stomping down ten minutes later and declares he reserved the room (which he did). I snapped and asked him why he couldn't use another meeting room. Told him I was fed up of being kicked out from my desk, or wherever I'm forced to work, at his whim and that he/the company has done nothing to resolve this issue.
I don't want to be angry at the CEO. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want un-needed stress; programming is bad enough on its own. I would even appreciate a real attempt to address the issue. Thus far, being perpetually migratory has been the "solution".
In some ways, I regret going off. It wasn't appropriate to do, but I also know that issues often go to the edge at my workplace before they're handled. Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
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Define recently? Does this happened today and you are all still in the office?
â DarkCygnus
53 mins ago
Also, how was the CEO's response when you snapped on the room? I suppose you left for your desk?
â DarkCygnus
51 mins ago
Today. I was offered to go work from home the rest of the day (which has been a topic recently), which I took. I'm not sure if that was the right decision...
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
51 mins ago
CEO said he was sorry (which felt like more of a reaction to calm me down than a genuine sorry) and then said I was being unprofessional (which, yeah, I would agree with).
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
50 mins ago
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"and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for" ?? You paid for your desk and equipment?
â Sandra K
31 mins ago
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I recently snapped on my boss. He's the CEO of a small company.
I regularly have scheduled meetings with another boss where you talk about work life, complaints, suggestions, etc. In the last year or so we've been having growing pains.
The CEO has general disregard for other employee's working space. He's very loud and obnoxious. As a developer, I often feel forced to move to random rooms around the office for some quiet. I have verified other employees feel similar, so I'd like to believe the problem isn't entirely on me. The developers usually end up huddled in a random room (with uncomfortable seating) together working.
Generally I'm forced to be migratory and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for. I've brought this up in those private meetings for over a year now to no avail.
I'm very frustrated by this. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want to be confrontational. But it seems like my complaints have not been taken seriously by the CEO. In my opinion my immediate boss is sympathetic to my issues, CEO is just a little dense is all.
So today, I moved to Room B from the main office because the CEO was being very loud on a call. He literally screams into the microphone compared to other employees. CEO comes stomping down ten minutes later and declares he reserved the room (which he did). I snapped and asked him why he couldn't use another meeting room. Told him I was fed up of being kicked out from my desk, or wherever I'm forced to work, at his whim and that he/the company has done nothing to resolve this issue.
I don't want to be angry at the CEO. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want un-needed stress; programming is bad enough on its own. I would even appreciate a real attempt to address the issue. Thus far, being perpetually migratory has been the "solution".
In some ways, I regret going off. It wasn't appropriate to do, but I also know that issues often go to the edge at my workplace before they're handled. Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
professionalism work-environment manager stress
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I recently snapped on my boss. He's the CEO of a small company.
I regularly have scheduled meetings with another boss where you talk about work life, complaints, suggestions, etc. In the last year or so we've been having growing pains.
The CEO has general disregard for other employee's working space. He's very loud and obnoxious. As a developer, I often feel forced to move to random rooms around the office for some quiet. I have verified other employees feel similar, so I'd like to believe the problem isn't entirely on me. The developers usually end up huddled in a random room (with uncomfortable seating) together working.
Generally I'm forced to be migratory and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for. I've brought this up in those private meetings for over a year now to no avail.
I'm very frustrated by this. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want to be confrontational. But it seems like my complaints have not been taken seriously by the CEO. In my opinion my immediate boss is sympathetic to my issues, CEO is just a little dense is all.
So today, I moved to Room B from the main office because the CEO was being very loud on a call. He literally screams into the microphone compared to other employees. CEO comes stomping down ten minutes later and declares he reserved the room (which he did). I snapped and asked him why he couldn't use another meeting room. Told him I was fed up of being kicked out from my desk, or wherever I'm forced to work, at his whim and that he/the company has done nothing to resolve this issue.
I don't want to be angry at the CEO. I don't want to be frustrated. I don't want un-needed stress; programming is bad enough on its own. I would even appreciate a real attempt to address the issue. Thus far, being perpetually migratory has been the "solution".
In some ways, I regret going off. It wasn't appropriate to do, but I also know that issues often go to the edge at my workplace before they're handled. Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
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Define recently? Does this happened today and you are all still in the office?
â DarkCygnus
53 mins ago
Also, how was the CEO's response when you snapped on the room? I suppose you left for your desk?
â DarkCygnus
51 mins ago
Today. I was offered to go work from home the rest of the day (which has been a topic recently), which I took. I'm not sure if that was the right decision...
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
51 mins ago
CEO said he was sorry (which felt like more of a reaction to calm me down than a genuine sorry) and then said I was being unprofessional (which, yeah, I would agree with).
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
50 mins ago
1
"and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for" ?? You paid for your desk and equipment?
â Sandra K
31 mins ago
 |Â
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Define recently? Does this happened today and you are all still in the office?
â DarkCygnus
53 mins ago
Also, how was the CEO's response when you snapped on the room? I suppose you left for your desk?
â DarkCygnus
51 mins ago
Today. I was offered to go work from home the rest of the day (which has been a topic recently), which I took. I'm not sure if that was the right decision...
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
51 mins ago
CEO said he was sorry (which felt like more of a reaction to calm me down than a genuine sorry) and then said I was being unprofessional (which, yeah, I would agree with).
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
50 mins ago
1
"and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for" ?? You paid for your desk and equipment?
â Sandra K
31 mins ago
Define recently? Does this happened today and you are all still in the office?
â DarkCygnus
53 mins ago
Define recently? Does this happened today and you are all still in the office?
â DarkCygnus
53 mins ago
Also, how was the CEO's response when you snapped on the room? I suppose you left for your desk?
â DarkCygnus
51 mins ago
Also, how was the CEO's response when you snapped on the room? I suppose you left for your desk?
â DarkCygnus
51 mins ago
Today. I was offered to go work from home the rest of the day (which has been a topic recently), which I took. I'm not sure if that was the right decision...
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
51 mins ago
Today. I was offered to go work from home the rest of the day (which has been a topic recently), which I took. I'm not sure if that was the right decision...
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
51 mins ago
CEO said he was sorry (which felt like more of a reaction to calm me down than a genuine sorry) and then said I was being unprofessional (which, yeah, I would agree with).
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
50 mins ago
CEO said he was sorry (which felt like more of a reaction to calm me down than a genuine sorry) and then said I was being unprofessional (which, yeah, I would agree with).
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
50 mins ago
1
1
"and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for" ?? You paid for your desk and equipment?
â Sandra K
31 mins ago
"and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for" ?? You paid for your desk and equipment?
â Sandra K
31 mins ago
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Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
As this happened today, I strongly suggest you act quickly and don't leave it hanging over the weekend.
I think it would be more appropriate to do this in person if possible. Go to this CEO's office and speak to him there. Apologize for your reaction, explain that you are under a lot of stress but that you are aware that it is not a justification for your response.
After that you hope for the best. If you handle this swiftly and don't leave it hanging there is a higher chance you can get out of this as smoothly as possible.
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I know that this site is dedicated to working through office issues, but with the loaded language in your question:
You need to find another job. You "snapped," but you obviously didn't relieve the frustration. This was just a "warning."
This CEO has obviously been entirely dismissive of your requests, and he's not going to change. If anything, this will make him "push" you, more.
Get out, and do it quickly.
When times are bad, maybe you put up with this sort of thing, but a competent software developer is lucky if he stands outside with a laptop and a textbook and doesn't get stuffed in a sack and kidnapped by recruiters, these days. There's no reason to put up with this.
@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
1
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
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Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
As this happened today, I strongly suggest you act quickly and don't leave it hanging over the weekend.
I think it would be more appropriate to do this in person if possible. Go to this CEO's office and speak to him there. Apologize for your reaction, explain that you are under a lot of stress but that you are aware that it is not a justification for your response.
After that you hope for the best. If you handle this swiftly and don't leave it hanging there is a higher chance you can get out of this as smoothly as possible.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
As this happened today, I strongly suggest you act quickly and don't leave it hanging over the weekend.
I think it would be more appropriate to do this in person if possible. Go to this CEO's office and speak to him there. Apologize for your reaction, explain that you are under a lot of stress but that you are aware that it is not a justification for your response.
After that you hope for the best. If you handle this swiftly and don't leave it hanging there is a higher chance you can get out of this as smoothly as possible.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
As this happened today, I strongly suggest you act quickly and don't leave it hanging over the weekend.
I think it would be more appropriate to do this in person if possible. Go to this CEO's office and speak to him there. Apologize for your reaction, explain that you are under a lot of stress but that you are aware that it is not a justification for your response.
After that you hope for the best. If you handle this swiftly and don't leave it hanging there is a higher chance you can get out of this as smoothly as possible.
Is an apology letter appropriate or it would be best if I see where the cards fall over the weekend?
As this happened today, I strongly suggest you act quickly and don't leave it hanging over the weekend.
I think it would be more appropriate to do this in person if possible. Go to this CEO's office and speak to him there. Apologize for your reaction, explain that you are under a lot of stress but that you are aware that it is not a justification for your response.
After that you hope for the best. If you handle this swiftly and don't leave it hanging there is a higher chance you can get out of this as smoothly as possible.
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I know that this site is dedicated to working through office issues, but with the loaded language in your question:
You need to find another job. You "snapped," but you obviously didn't relieve the frustration. This was just a "warning."
This CEO has obviously been entirely dismissive of your requests, and he's not going to change. If anything, this will make him "push" you, more.
Get out, and do it quickly.
When times are bad, maybe you put up with this sort of thing, but a competent software developer is lucky if he stands outside with a laptop and a textbook and doesn't get stuffed in a sack and kidnapped by recruiters, these days. There's no reason to put up with this.
@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
1
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
I know that this site is dedicated to working through office issues, but with the loaded language in your question:
You need to find another job. You "snapped," but you obviously didn't relieve the frustration. This was just a "warning."
This CEO has obviously been entirely dismissive of your requests, and he's not going to change. If anything, this will make him "push" you, more.
Get out, and do it quickly.
When times are bad, maybe you put up with this sort of thing, but a competent software developer is lucky if he stands outside with a laptop and a textbook and doesn't get stuffed in a sack and kidnapped by recruiters, these days. There's no reason to put up with this.
@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
1
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
I know that this site is dedicated to working through office issues, but with the loaded language in your question:
You need to find another job. You "snapped," but you obviously didn't relieve the frustration. This was just a "warning."
This CEO has obviously been entirely dismissive of your requests, and he's not going to change. If anything, this will make him "push" you, more.
Get out, and do it quickly.
When times are bad, maybe you put up with this sort of thing, but a competent software developer is lucky if he stands outside with a laptop and a textbook and doesn't get stuffed in a sack and kidnapped by recruiters, these days. There's no reason to put up with this.
I know that this site is dedicated to working through office issues, but with the loaded language in your question:
You need to find another job. You "snapped," but you obviously didn't relieve the frustration. This was just a "warning."
This CEO has obviously been entirely dismissive of your requests, and he's not going to change. If anything, this will make him "push" you, more.
Get out, and do it quickly.
When times are bad, maybe you put up with this sort of thing, but a competent software developer is lucky if he stands outside with a laptop and a textbook and doesn't get stuffed in a sack and kidnapped by recruiters, these days. There's no reason to put up with this.
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@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
1
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
add a comment |Â
@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
1
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
@DarkCygnus - Sometimes the question in front of you isn't the question that's being asked. Sometimes you have to challenge incorrect predicates in the question. The poster didn't "Snap." If he had, he would be emotionally exhausted. The poster is "Snapping." He's not done, yet.
â Wesley Long
26 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
So, you say that this episode is but an accumulation of negative things that have happened in that workplace, and that under the snap situation the real issue is a bad workplace and toxic boss?
â DarkCygnus
25 mins ago
1
1
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
@DarkCygnus - Good and Bad are subjective evaluations. This is a stressful workplace to the poster. He needs a different environment than is available, and the CEO isn't going to change. Everyone has their issue. Mine is sunlight. I have to have it, or I get very unproductive very quickly. This guy needs quiet. I can't work in a cave, this guy can't work here.
â Wesley Long
23 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
Yes, bad for OP as it seems. I get you better now, thanks for clarifying :)
â DarkCygnus
17 mins ago
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Define recently? Does this happened today and you are all still in the office?
â DarkCygnus
53 mins ago
Also, how was the CEO's response when you snapped on the room? I suppose you left for your desk?
â DarkCygnus
51 mins ago
Today. I was offered to go work from home the rest of the day (which has been a topic recently), which I took. I'm not sure if that was the right decision...
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
51 mins ago
CEO said he was sorry (which felt like more of a reaction to calm me down than a genuine sorry) and then said I was being unprofessional (which, yeah, I would agree with).
â aport-dine-pemmican-exorcise
50 mins ago
1
"and cannot use my desk, monitor, mouse, or keyboard that I paid for" ?? You paid for your desk and equipment?
â Sandra K
31 mins ago