What is an Avatar of a God?

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP





.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;







up vote
3
down vote

favorite












I'm confused with what an avatar really is. I understand it's the materialized form of the deity itself, right? Or, is it a part of the deity taking a physical form?



What happens if you kill the avatar?



How does one truly kill a god? I've heard that you make it mortal. How, by killing it's avatar? Can someone explain how this works?










share|improve this question









New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.















  • 3




    Can you expand on the source of the info you're getting for 'avatar' as well as what you've already looked at thus far? Are you strictly looking for answers related to 5e or will other editions work as well?
    – Pyrotechnical
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    I think there are three different questions — what is an avatar, what happens if somebody kills an avatar, how can a mortal kill a god.
    – enkryptor
    1 hour ago










  • The details of how gods and avatars "work" have changed between editions. We use the [dungeons-and-dragons] tag for questions that span all editions of D&D. If you're curious about how deities work has changed over time then it is the right tag to use (along with maybe [edition-comparison]). If your primary goal is to kill a deity in a 5th edition game, then you should remove that tag.
    – Oblivious Sage
    1 hour ago










  • The reason why I ask is because by party's goal is to defeat the God of Dragons, Askeroth. Askeroth, much like Tiamat but my version, has created dragons and since the dragon race was being killed by dragon hunters and mankind he decided to take matter in his own hands and materialize himself in to a Dragon a cause discord while his creation was freed from death. Other deities created artifacts to kill his dragon form (avatar?). One man killed him years ago but now Askeroth is resurrected back for vengeance. In order for Askeroth to not be resurrected again they need to kill the deity himself.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    Please don’t edit in follow-up questions: ask a new question. We have a one question per Question policy, for several reasons, but most importantly your edit has made my answer incomplete, and forces someone who wants to answer the follow-up question to also answer the original question, because all answers are required to be complete answers to the question. (You can feel free to ask a new question and link back to this one, if you like, and/or link this one to the new one.)
    – KRyan
    1 hour ago

















up vote
3
down vote

favorite












I'm confused with what an avatar really is. I understand it's the materialized form of the deity itself, right? Or, is it a part of the deity taking a physical form?



What happens if you kill the avatar?



How does one truly kill a god? I've heard that you make it mortal. How, by killing it's avatar? Can someone explain how this works?










share|improve this question









New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.















  • 3




    Can you expand on the source of the info you're getting for 'avatar' as well as what you've already looked at thus far? Are you strictly looking for answers related to 5e or will other editions work as well?
    – Pyrotechnical
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    I think there are three different questions — what is an avatar, what happens if somebody kills an avatar, how can a mortal kill a god.
    – enkryptor
    1 hour ago










  • The details of how gods and avatars "work" have changed between editions. We use the [dungeons-and-dragons] tag for questions that span all editions of D&D. If you're curious about how deities work has changed over time then it is the right tag to use (along with maybe [edition-comparison]). If your primary goal is to kill a deity in a 5th edition game, then you should remove that tag.
    – Oblivious Sage
    1 hour ago










  • The reason why I ask is because by party's goal is to defeat the God of Dragons, Askeroth. Askeroth, much like Tiamat but my version, has created dragons and since the dragon race was being killed by dragon hunters and mankind he decided to take matter in his own hands and materialize himself in to a Dragon a cause discord while his creation was freed from death. Other deities created artifacts to kill his dragon form (avatar?). One man killed him years ago but now Askeroth is resurrected back for vengeance. In order for Askeroth to not be resurrected again they need to kill the deity himself.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    Please don’t edit in follow-up questions: ask a new question. We have a one question per Question policy, for several reasons, but most importantly your edit has made my answer incomplete, and forces someone who wants to answer the follow-up question to also answer the original question, because all answers are required to be complete answers to the question. (You can feel free to ask a new question and link back to this one, if you like, and/or link this one to the new one.)
    – KRyan
    1 hour ago













up vote
3
down vote

favorite









up vote
3
down vote

favorite











I'm confused with what an avatar really is. I understand it's the materialized form of the deity itself, right? Or, is it a part of the deity taking a physical form?



What happens if you kill the avatar?



How does one truly kill a god? I've heard that you make it mortal. How, by killing it's avatar? Can someone explain how this works?










share|improve this question









New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











I'm confused with what an avatar really is. I understand it's the materialized form of the deity itself, right? Or, is it a part of the deity taking a physical form?



What happens if you kill the avatar?



How does one truly kill a god? I've heard that you make it mortal. How, by killing it's avatar? Can someone explain how this works?







dnd-5e dungeons-and-dragons religions-and-deities






share|improve this question









New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question









New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 1 hour ago









KorvinStarmast

68.2k16214375




68.2k16214375






New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked 1 hour ago









Tnokes1914

213




213




New contributor




Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






Tnokes1914 is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







  • 3




    Can you expand on the source of the info you're getting for 'avatar' as well as what you've already looked at thus far? Are you strictly looking for answers related to 5e or will other editions work as well?
    – Pyrotechnical
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    I think there are three different questions — what is an avatar, what happens if somebody kills an avatar, how can a mortal kill a god.
    – enkryptor
    1 hour ago










  • The details of how gods and avatars "work" have changed between editions. We use the [dungeons-and-dragons] tag for questions that span all editions of D&D. If you're curious about how deities work has changed over time then it is the right tag to use (along with maybe [edition-comparison]). If your primary goal is to kill a deity in a 5th edition game, then you should remove that tag.
    – Oblivious Sage
    1 hour ago










  • The reason why I ask is because by party's goal is to defeat the God of Dragons, Askeroth. Askeroth, much like Tiamat but my version, has created dragons and since the dragon race was being killed by dragon hunters and mankind he decided to take matter in his own hands and materialize himself in to a Dragon a cause discord while his creation was freed from death. Other deities created artifacts to kill his dragon form (avatar?). One man killed him years ago but now Askeroth is resurrected back for vengeance. In order for Askeroth to not be resurrected again they need to kill the deity himself.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    Please don’t edit in follow-up questions: ask a new question. We have a one question per Question policy, for several reasons, but most importantly your edit has made my answer incomplete, and forces someone who wants to answer the follow-up question to also answer the original question, because all answers are required to be complete answers to the question. (You can feel free to ask a new question and link back to this one, if you like, and/or link this one to the new one.)
    – KRyan
    1 hour ago













  • 3




    Can you expand on the source of the info you're getting for 'avatar' as well as what you've already looked at thus far? Are you strictly looking for answers related to 5e or will other editions work as well?
    – Pyrotechnical
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    I think there are three different questions — what is an avatar, what happens if somebody kills an avatar, how can a mortal kill a god.
    – enkryptor
    1 hour ago










  • The details of how gods and avatars "work" have changed between editions. We use the [dungeons-and-dragons] tag for questions that span all editions of D&D. If you're curious about how deities work has changed over time then it is the right tag to use (along with maybe [edition-comparison]). If your primary goal is to kill a deity in a 5th edition game, then you should remove that tag.
    – Oblivious Sage
    1 hour ago










  • The reason why I ask is because by party's goal is to defeat the God of Dragons, Askeroth. Askeroth, much like Tiamat but my version, has created dragons and since the dragon race was being killed by dragon hunters and mankind he decided to take matter in his own hands and materialize himself in to a Dragon a cause discord while his creation was freed from death. Other deities created artifacts to kill his dragon form (avatar?). One man killed him years ago but now Askeroth is resurrected back for vengeance. In order for Askeroth to not be resurrected again they need to kill the deity himself.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    Please don’t edit in follow-up questions: ask a new question. We have a one question per Question policy, for several reasons, but most importantly your edit has made my answer incomplete, and forces someone who wants to answer the follow-up question to also answer the original question, because all answers are required to be complete answers to the question. (You can feel free to ask a new question and link back to this one, if you like, and/or link this one to the new one.)
    – KRyan
    1 hour ago








3




3




Can you expand on the source of the info you're getting for 'avatar' as well as what you've already looked at thus far? Are you strictly looking for answers related to 5e or will other editions work as well?
– Pyrotechnical
1 hour ago




Can you expand on the source of the info you're getting for 'avatar' as well as what you've already looked at thus far? Are you strictly looking for answers related to 5e or will other editions work as well?
– Pyrotechnical
1 hour ago




1




1




I think there are three different questions — what is an avatar, what happens if somebody kills an avatar, how can a mortal kill a god.
– enkryptor
1 hour ago




I think there are three different questions — what is an avatar, what happens if somebody kills an avatar, how can a mortal kill a god.
– enkryptor
1 hour ago












The details of how gods and avatars "work" have changed between editions. We use the [dungeons-and-dragons] tag for questions that span all editions of D&D. If you're curious about how deities work has changed over time then it is the right tag to use (along with maybe [edition-comparison]). If your primary goal is to kill a deity in a 5th edition game, then you should remove that tag.
– Oblivious Sage
1 hour ago




The details of how gods and avatars "work" have changed between editions. We use the [dungeons-and-dragons] tag for questions that span all editions of D&D. If you're curious about how deities work has changed over time then it is the right tag to use (along with maybe [edition-comparison]). If your primary goal is to kill a deity in a 5th edition game, then you should remove that tag.
– Oblivious Sage
1 hour ago












The reason why I ask is because by party's goal is to defeat the God of Dragons, Askeroth. Askeroth, much like Tiamat but my version, has created dragons and since the dragon race was being killed by dragon hunters and mankind he decided to take matter in his own hands and materialize himself in to a Dragon a cause discord while his creation was freed from death. Other deities created artifacts to kill his dragon form (avatar?). One man killed him years ago but now Askeroth is resurrected back for vengeance. In order for Askeroth to not be resurrected again they need to kill the deity himself.
– Tnokes1914
1 hour ago




The reason why I ask is because by party's goal is to defeat the God of Dragons, Askeroth. Askeroth, much like Tiamat but my version, has created dragons and since the dragon race was being killed by dragon hunters and mankind he decided to take matter in his own hands and materialize himself in to a Dragon a cause discord while his creation was freed from death. Other deities created artifacts to kill his dragon form (avatar?). One man killed him years ago but now Askeroth is resurrected back for vengeance. In order for Askeroth to not be resurrected again they need to kill the deity himself.
– Tnokes1914
1 hour ago




1




1




Please don’t edit in follow-up questions: ask a new question. We have a one question per Question policy, for several reasons, but most importantly your edit has made my answer incomplete, and forces someone who wants to answer the follow-up question to also answer the original question, because all answers are required to be complete answers to the question. (You can feel free to ask a new question and link back to this one, if you like, and/or link this one to the new one.)
– KRyan
1 hour ago





Please don’t edit in follow-up questions: ask a new question. We have a one question per Question policy, for several reasons, but most importantly your edit has made my answer incomplete, and forces someone who wants to answer the follow-up question to also answer the original question, because all answers are required to be complete answers to the question. (You can feel free to ask a new question and link back to this one, if you like, and/or link this one to the new one.)
– KRyan
1 hour ago











1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes

















up vote
5
down vote



accepted










One of the major conceits of D&D’s gods is that their very presence powerfully affects reality around them. They literally cannot go anywhere without warping reality to be more in line with themselves—and that isn’t something that does you any favors with the other gods, even those who are otherwise friendly towards you. Showing up somewhere important, particularly the Material Plane, in person is a good way to get every other gods’ attention, and even your allies aren’t likely to support you. You are literally damaging the plane by your very presence and it’s simply not OK to do that.



There are some exceptions. The Outer Planes are far more resilient, since they are already so strongly aligned, and a god with an invitation and/or paying the proper respect to the places they travel to or through can avoid doing so much damage. And a few gods do roam the planes, even the Material Plane, rather than set up their own divine realms; they can do this because roaming (and not putting down roots and affecting things) is part of who and what they are, and consequently they don’t warp things so much. But when a god goes somewhere forcefully where they aren’t welcome, well...



For reference, gods being in places they shouldn’t be, in person, has been used as an explanation of why the laws of physics—the game’s rules—have changed from edition to edition. That is the level of effect we are discussing here.



So in order to avoid pissing off the other gods, most deities will usually avoid doing things in person. They’ll operate through proxies and champions, or when they really need to do something themselves, through an avatar. In a lot of ways, an avatar is a lot like a very particular conjuration spell: it creates a physical representation of the god, with some of that god’s divine essence invested in it. The god can “pilot” the avatar as an extension of themselves—which is exactly what it is.



But importantly, the avatar only has a fraction of their power. It doesn’t warp reality as strongly—it still does, but not nearly as much. It’s far easier to justify the use of an avatar to the other gods. The damage it does is more localized, and easier to undo.



It also explains why the “god” can be defeated by mere mortals—that wasn’t the real god, you see, just an avatar. Many, many adventures have claimed that the adventurers are fighting a god, only for later canon to ret-con that to an avatar, to allow the god to continue to be used and to explain why the god was so “easy.”



In terms of what happens when an avatar is killed, it does hurt the god. They have invested some of their essence and divine power into the avatar, and that being destroyed hurts them. How much is left largely up to the DM and/or adventure authors, but the destruction of an avatar “shouldn’t” be just ignored. It’s a major event and should be portrayed as having consequences for the god in question.






share|improve this answer






















  • I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
    – enkryptor
    45 mins ago










Your Answer




StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "122"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);

else
createEditor();

);

function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: false,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);



);






Tnokes1914 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.









 

draft saved


draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f133068%2fwhat-is-an-avatar-of-a-god%23new-answer', 'question_page');

);

Post as a guest






























1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes








up vote
5
down vote



accepted










One of the major conceits of D&D’s gods is that their very presence powerfully affects reality around them. They literally cannot go anywhere without warping reality to be more in line with themselves—and that isn’t something that does you any favors with the other gods, even those who are otherwise friendly towards you. Showing up somewhere important, particularly the Material Plane, in person is a good way to get every other gods’ attention, and even your allies aren’t likely to support you. You are literally damaging the plane by your very presence and it’s simply not OK to do that.



There are some exceptions. The Outer Planes are far more resilient, since they are already so strongly aligned, and a god with an invitation and/or paying the proper respect to the places they travel to or through can avoid doing so much damage. And a few gods do roam the planes, even the Material Plane, rather than set up their own divine realms; they can do this because roaming (and not putting down roots and affecting things) is part of who and what they are, and consequently they don’t warp things so much. But when a god goes somewhere forcefully where they aren’t welcome, well...



For reference, gods being in places they shouldn’t be, in person, has been used as an explanation of why the laws of physics—the game’s rules—have changed from edition to edition. That is the level of effect we are discussing here.



So in order to avoid pissing off the other gods, most deities will usually avoid doing things in person. They’ll operate through proxies and champions, or when they really need to do something themselves, through an avatar. In a lot of ways, an avatar is a lot like a very particular conjuration spell: it creates a physical representation of the god, with some of that god’s divine essence invested in it. The god can “pilot” the avatar as an extension of themselves—which is exactly what it is.



But importantly, the avatar only has a fraction of their power. It doesn’t warp reality as strongly—it still does, but not nearly as much. It’s far easier to justify the use of an avatar to the other gods. The damage it does is more localized, and easier to undo.



It also explains why the “god” can be defeated by mere mortals—that wasn’t the real god, you see, just an avatar. Many, many adventures have claimed that the adventurers are fighting a god, only for later canon to ret-con that to an avatar, to allow the god to continue to be used and to explain why the god was so “easy.”



In terms of what happens when an avatar is killed, it does hurt the god. They have invested some of their essence and divine power into the avatar, and that being destroyed hurts them. How much is left largely up to the DM and/or adventure authors, but the destruction of an avatar “shouldn’t” be just ignored. It’s a major event and should be portrayed as having consequences for the god in question.






share|improve this answer






















  • I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
    – enkryptor
    45 mins ago














up vote
5
down vote



accepted










One of the major conceits of D&D’s gods is that their very presence powerfully affects reality around them. They literally cannot go anywhere without warping reality to be more in line with themselves—and that isn’t something that does you any favors with the other gods, even those who are otherwise friendly towards you. Showing up somewhere important, particularly the Material Plane, in person is a good way to get every other gods’ attention, and even your allies aren’t likely to support you. You are literally damaging the plane by your very presence and it’s simply not OK to do that.



There are some exceptions. The Outer Planes are far more resilient, since they are already so strongly aligned, and a god with an invitation and/or paying the proper respect to the places they travel to or through can avoid doing so much damage. And a few gods do roam the planes, even the Material Plane, rather than set up their own divine realms; they can do this because roaming (and not putting down roots and affecting things) is part of who and what they are, and consequently they don’t warp things so much. But when a god goes somewhere forcefully where they aren’t welcome, well...



For reference, gods being in places they shouldn’t be, in person, has been used as an explanation of why the laws of physics—the game’s rules—have changed from edition to edition. That is the level of effect we are discussing here.



So in order to avoid pissing off the other gods, most deities will usually avoid doing things in person. They’ll operate through proxies and champions, or when they really need to do something themselves, through an avatar. In a lot of ways, an avatar is a lot like a very particular conjuration spell: it creates a physical representation of the god, with some of that god’s divine essence invested in it. The god can “pilot” the avatar as an extension of themselves—which is exactly what it is.



But importantly, the avatar only has a fraction of their power. It doesn’t warp reality as strongly—it still does, but not nearly as much. It’s far easier to justify the use of an avatar to the other gods. The damage it does is more localized, and easier to undo.



It also explains why the “god” can be defeated by mere mortals—that wasn’t the real god, you see, just an avatar. Many, many adventures have claimed that the adventurers are fighting a god, only for later canon to ret-con that to an avatar, to allow the god to continue to be used and to explain why the god was so “easy.”



In terms of what happens when an avatar is killed, it does hurt the god. They have invested some of their essence and divine power into the avatar, and that being destroyed hurts them. How much is left largely up to the DM and/or adventure authors, but the destruction of an avatar “shouldn’t” be just ignored. It’s a major event and should be portrayed as having consequences for the god in question.






share|improve this answer






















  • I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
    – enkryptor
    45 mins ago












up vote
5
down vote



accepted







up vote
5
down vote



accepted






One of the major conceits of D&D’s gods is that their very presence powerfully affects reality around them. They literally cannot go anywhere without warping reality to be more in line with themselves—and that isn’t something that does you any favors with the other gods, even those who are otherwise friendly towards you. Showing up somewhere important, particularly the Material Plane, in person is a good way to get every other gods’ attention, and even your allies aren’t likely to support you. You are literally damaging the plane by your very presence and it’s simply not OK to do that.



There are some exceptions. The Outer Planes are far more resilient, since they are already so strongly aligned, and a god with an invitation and/or paying the proper respect to the places they travel to or through can avoid doing so much damage. And a few gods do roam the planes, even the Material Plane, rather than set up their own divine realms; they can do this because roaming (and not putting down roots and affecting things) is part of who and what they are, and consequently they don’t warp things so much. But when a god goes somewhere forcefully where they aren’t welcome, well...



For reference, gods being in places they shouldn’t be, in person, has been used as an explanation of why the laws of physics—the game’s rules—have changed from edition to edition. That is the level of effect we are discussing here.



So in order to avoid pissing off the other gods, most deities will usually avoid doing things in person. They’ll operate through proxies and champions, or when they really need to do something themselves, through an avatar. In a lot of ways, an avatar is a lot like a very particular conjuration spell: it creates a physical representation of the god, with some of that god’s divine essence invested in it. The god can “pilot” the avatar as an extension of themselves—which is exactly what it is.



But importantly, the avatar only has a fraction of their power. It doesn’t warp reality as strongly—it still does, but not nearly as much. It’s far easier to justify the use of an avatar to the other gods. The damage it does is more localized, and easier to undo.



It also explains why the “god” can be defeated by mere mortals—that wasn’t the real god, you see, just an avatar. Many, many adventures have claimed that the adventurers are fighting a god, only for later canon to ret-con that to an avatar, to allow the god to continue to be used and to explain why the god was so “easy.”



In terms of what happens when an avatar is killed, it does hurt the god. They have invested some of their essence and divine power into the avatar, and that being destroyed hurts them. How much is left largely up to the DM and/or adventure authors, but the destruction of an avatar “shouldn’t” be just ignored. It’s a major event and should be portrayed as having consequences for the god in question.






share|improve this answer














One of the major conceits of D&D’s gods is that their very presence powerfully affects reality around them. They literally cannot go anywhere without warping reality to be more in line with themselves—and that isn’t something that does you any favors with the other gods, even those who are otherwise friendly towards you. Showing up somewhere important, particularly the Material Plane, in person is a good way to get every other gods’ attention, and even your allies aren’t likely to support you. You are literally damaging the plane by your very presence and it’s simply not OK to do that.



There are some exceptions. The Outer Planes are far more resilient, since they are already so strongly aligned, and a god with an invitation and/or paying the proper respect to the places they travel to or through can avoid doing so much damage. And a few gods do roam the planes, even the Material Plane, rather than set up their own divine realms; they can do this because roaming (and not putting down roots and affecting things) is part of who and what they are, and consequently they don’t warp things so much. But when a god goes somewhere forcefully where they aren’t welcome, well...



For reference, gods being in places they shouldn’t be, in person, has been used as an explanation of why the laws of physics—the game’s rules—have changed from edition to edition. That is the level of effect we are discussing here.



So in order to avoid pissing off the other gods, most deities will usually avoid doing things in person. They’ll operate through proxies and champions, or when they really need to do something themselves, through an avatar. In a lot of ways, an avatar is a lot like a very particular conjuration spell: it creates a physical representation of the god, with some of that god’s divine essence invested in it. The god can “pilot” the avatar as an extension of themselves—which is exactly what it is.



But importantly, the avatar only has a fraction of their power. It doesn’t warp reality as strongly—it still does, but not nearly as much. It’s far easier to justify the use of an avatar to the other gods. The damage it does is more localized, and easier to undo.



It also explains why the “god” can be defeated by mere mortals—that wasn’t the real god, you see, just an avatar. Many, many adventures have claimed that the adventurers are fighting a god, only for later canon to ret-con that to an avatar, to allow the god to continue to be used and to explain why the god was so “easy.”



In terms of what happens when an avatar is killed, it does hurt the god. They have invested some of their essence and divine power into the avatar, and that being destroyed hurts them. How much is left largely up to the DM and/or adventure authors, but the destruction of an avatar “shouldn’t” be just ignored. It’s a major event and should be portrayed as having consequences for the god in question.







share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








edited 1 hour ago

























answered 1 hour ago









KRyan

207k23514901




207k23514901











  • I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
    – enkryptor
    45 mins ago
















  • I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
    – Tnokes1914
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
    – enkryptor
    45 mins ago















I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
– Tnokes1914
1 hour ago




I LOVE IT!!! I got a lot of information from this, thank you.
– Tnokes1914
1 hour ago




1




1




@Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
– enkryptor
45 mins ago




@Tnokes1914 You might want to upvote this answer if you feel it is useful, but wait for a day or two before accepting, since a better answer might appear. By accepting my answer you reduce the chance of other people answering.
– enkryptor
45 mins ago










Tnokes1914 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.









 

draft saved


draft discarded


















Tnokes1914 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












Tnokes1914 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.











Tnokes1914 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













 


draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f133068%2fwhat-is-an-avatar-of-a-god%23new-answer', 'question_page');

);

Post as a guest













































































Comments

Popular posts from this blog

Long meetings (6-7 hours a day): Being “babysat” by supervisor

Is the Concept of Multiple Fantasy Races Scientifically Flawed? [closed]

Confectionery