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How to express a self-diminishing recursive property. Elegantly
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In the following, I can't find the right way to express my meaning for the part in bold:
Studies show that high IQ individuals are more susceptible to drug addiction than the general population, meaning there is a cognition-dependent aspect to substance abuse. While mainstream drug treatment programs are notoriously ineffective in general, with recidivism rates reaching 80 percent or higher, many people believe that for high IQ individuals those programs are even less effective than they are for the general population. Tragically, when an attempt to overcome drug addiction ends in failure, the negative light in which the addict saw himself in the world that made him vulnerable to addiction in the first place is intensified, reducing his value in his own eyes and, consequently, diminishing the incentive to try again. This recursive property makes traditional treatment programs for some addicts outright harmful.
I want to express the meaning that entering a drug treatment program, then failing (leaving the program unfinished or getting high one night with a friend, for example), makes it more likely one will slip back into full blown addiction, while simultaneously making it less likely they will seek help, and even if they do seek help, more likely they will fail again, which, of course, not only repeats the pattern (the recursive part), but intensifies it.
None of these seems exactly right, let alone elegant:
- negative recursive
- negative self-intensifier
- recursively diminishing
- lethal feedback loop
Interestingly, I found the question discussed mathematically here on StackExchange, but still wasn't able to come up with a way to express the idea in English.
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In the following, I can't find the right way to express my meaning for the part in bold:
Studies show that high IQ individuals are more susceptible to drug addiction than the general population, meaning there is a cognition-dependent aspect to substance abuse. While mainstream drug treatment programs are notoriously ineffective in general, with recidivism rates reaching 80 percent or higher, many people believe that for high IQ individuals those programs are even less effective than they are for the general population. Tragically, when an attempt to overcome drug addiction ends in failure, the negative light in which the addict saw himself in the world that made him vulnerable to addiction in the first place is intensified, reducing his value in his own eyes and, consequently, diminishing the incentive to try again. This recursive property makes traditional treatment programs for some addicts outright harmful.
I want to express the meaning that entering a drug treatment program, then failing (leaving the program unfinished or getting high one night with a friend, for example), makes it more likely one will slip back into full blown addiction, while simultaneously making it less likely they will seek help, and even if they do seek help, more likely they will fail again, which, of course, not only repeats the pattern (the recursive part), but intensifies it.
None of these seems exactly right, let alone elegant:
- negative recursive
- negative self-intensifier
- recursively diminishing
- lethal feedback loop
Interestingly, I found the question discussed mathematically here on StackExchange, but still wasn't able to come up with a way to express the idea in English.
single-word-requests phrase-requests
asked 4 hours ago
CWill
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In the following, I can't find the right way to express my meaning for the part in bold:
Studies show that high IQ individuals are more susceptible to drug addiction than the general population, meaning there is a cognition-dependent aspect to substance abuse. While mainstream drug treatment programs are notoriously ineffective in general, with recidivism rates reaching 80 percent or higher, many people believe that for high IQ individuals those programs are even less effective than they are for the general population. Tragically, when an attempt to overcome drug addiction ends in failure, the negative light in which the addict saw himself in the world that made him vulnerable to addiction in the first place is intensified, reducing his value in his own eyes and, consequently, diminishing the incentive to try again. This recursive property makes traditional treatment programs for some addicts outright harmful.
I want to express the meaning that entering a drug treatment program, then failing (leaving the program unfinished or getting high one night with a friend, for example), makes it more likely one will slip back into full blown addiction, while simultaneously making it less likely they will seek help, and even if they do seek help, more likely they will fail again, which, of course, not only repeats the pattern (the recursive part), but intensifies it.
None of these seems exactly right, let alone elegant:
- negative recursive
- negative self-intensifier
- recursively diminishing
- lethal feedback loop
Interestingly, I found the question discussed mathematically here on StackExchange, but still wasn't able to come up with a way to express the idea in English.
single-word-requests phrase-requests
asked 4 hours ago
CWill
624410
In the following, I can't find the right way to express my meaning for the part in bold:
Studies show that high IQ individuals are more susceptible to drug addiction than the general population, meaning there is a cognition-dependent aspect to substance abuse. While mainstream drug treatment programs are notoriously ineffective in general, with recidivism rates reaching 80 percent or higher, many people believe that for high IQ individuals those programs are even less effective than they are for the general population. Tragically, when an attempt to overcome drug addiction ends in failure, the negative light in which the addict saw himself in the world that made him vulnerable to addiction in the first place is intensified, reducing his value in his own eyes and, consequently, diminishing the incentive to try again. This recursive property makes traditional treatment programs for some addicts outright harmful.
I want to express the meaning that entering a drug treatment program, then failing (leaving the program unfinished or getting high one night with a friend, for example), makes it more likely one will slip back into full blown addiction, while simultaneously making it less likely they will seek help, and even if they do seek help, more likely they will fail again, which, of course, not only repeats the pattern (the recursive part), but intensifies it.
None of these seems exactly right, let alone elegant:
- negative recursive
- negative self-intensifier
- recursively diminishing
- lethal feedback loop
Interestingly, I found the question discussed mathematically here on StackExchange, but still wasn't able to come up with a way to express the idea in English.
single-word-requests phrase-requests
single-word-requests phrase-requests
asked 4 hours ago
CWill
624410
asked 4 hours ago
CWill
624410
asked 4 hours ago
CWill
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asked 4 hours ago
CWill
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You’ll have to let me know if you agree, but I’m fairly confident the phrase you’re looking for is a “vicious cycle†or sometimes called a “vicious circleâ€Â. This describes the kind of feedback loop you mentioned where the situation only becomes worse with each repetition. The converse would be a virtuous cycle.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle
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That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
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1 Answer
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active
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You’ll have to let me know if you agree, but I’m fairly confident the phrase you’re looking for is a “vicious cycle†or sometimes called a “vicious circleâ€Â. This describes the kind of feedback loop you mentioned where the situation only becomes worse with each repetition. The converse would be a virtuous cycle.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle
answered 4 hours ago
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That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
– ancepsinfans
2 hours ago
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You’ll have to let me know if you agree, but I’m fairly confident the phrase you’re looking for is a “vicious cycle†or sometimes called a “vicious circleâ€Â. This describes the kind of feedback loop you mentioned where the situation only becomes worse with each repetition. The converse would be a virtuous cycle.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle
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That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
– ancepsinfans
2 hours ago
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up vote
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You’ll have to let me know if you agree, but I’m fairly confident the phrase you’re looking for is a “vicious cycle†or sometimes called a “vicious circleâ€Â. This describes the kind of feedback loop you mentioned where the situation only becomes worse with each repetition. The converse would be a virtuous cycle.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle
answered 4 hours ago
ancepsinfans
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You’ll have to let me know if you agree, but I’m fairly confident the phrase you’re looking for is a “vicious cycle†or sometimes called a “vicious circleâ€Â. This describes the kind of feedback loop you mentioned where the situation only becomes worse with each repetition. The converse would be a virtuous cycle.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle
answered 4 hours ago
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That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
– ancepsinfans
2 hours ago
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That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
– ancepsinfans
2 hours ago
That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of it. But I don't think it captures the sense of intensifying with every repetition which is caused by the repetition itself. In other words, the reason the cycle intensifies is not due to some external factor like "he got older". It is due to the negative light intensifying the negative light that was already there which led him into addiction in the first place.
– CWill
3 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
– ancepsinfans
2 hours ago
@CWill I think that if you have a look at the Wikipedia article I linked, you’ll see that a vicious circle is just that—a cycle that worsens each iteration as a result of the elements of the cycle itself and not from outside influences. Moreover, addiction is often discussed using this term exactly. There are many sources backing this up if you google the two terms together.
– ancepsinfans
2 hours ago
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