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i) Find an expression for the generating function of the sequence with terms
$$d_n=sum_k=0^n k^3$$
using operations on the geometric series $sum_ngeq 0 x^n$
ii) Derive a polynomial (in $n$) expression for $d_n$.
for i) I got $x(1+4x+x^2)/(1-x)^5$
but I'm confused what to do for ii), how does one derive that?
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i) Find an expression for the generating function of the sequence with terms
$$d_n=sum_k=0^n k^3$$
using operations on the geometric series $sum_ngeq 0 x^n$
ii) Derive a polynomial (in $n$) expression for $d_n$.
for i) I got $x(1+4x+x^2)/(1-x)^5$
but I'm confused what to do for ii), how does one derive that?
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any tips? 15 views but no responses lol
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Your post will probably receive more positive feedback if you format it in MathJax throughout (I see you've done the middle sums).
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Plus, I have no clue what $d_n$, $b_n$ even are. This was confusing, so I saw it and left
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@user600384 I edited your question for clearness sake. Now you have TWO answers...
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i) Find an expression for the generating function of the sequence with terms
$$d_n=sum_k=0^n k^3$$
using operations on the geometric series $sum_ngeq 0 x^n$
ii) Derive a polynomial (in $n$) expression for $d_n$.
for i) I got $x(1+4x+x^2)/(1-x)^5$
but I'm confused what to do for ii), how does one derive that?
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i) Find an expression for the generating function of the sequence with terms
$$d_n=sum_k=0^n k^3$$
using operations on the geometric series $sum_ngeq 0 x^n$
ii) Derive a polynomial (in $n$) expression for $d_n$.
for i) I got $x(1+4x+x^2)/(1-x)^5$
but I'm confused what to do for ii), how does one derive that?
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any tips? 15 views but no responses lol
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Your post will probably receive more positive feedback if you format it in MathJax throughout (I see you've done the middle sums).
– Clayton
1 hour ago
Plus, I have no clue what $d_n$, $b_n$ even are. This was confusing, so I saw it and left
– Rushabh Mehta
1 hour ago
@user600384 I edited your question for clearness sake. Now you have TWO answers...
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any tips? 15 views but no responses lol
– user600384
2 hours ago
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Your post will probably receive more positive feedback if you format it in MathJax throughout (I see you've done the middle sums).
– Clayton
1 hour ago
Plus, I have no clue what $d_n$, $b_n$ even are. This was confusing, so I saw it and left
– Rushabh Mehta
1 hour ago
@user600384 I edited your question for clearness sake. Now you have TWO answers...
– Robert Z
1 hour ago
any tips? 15 views but no responses lol
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any tips? 15 views but no responses lol
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Your post will probably receive more positive feedback if you format it in MathJax throughout (I see you've done the middle sums).
– Clayton
1 hour ago
Your post will probably receive more positive feedback if you format it in MathJax throughout (I see you've done the middle sums).
– Clayton
1 hour ago
Plus, I have no clue what $d_n$, $b_n$ even are. This was confusing, so I saw it and left
– Rushabh Mehta
1 hour ago
Plus, I have no clue what $d_n$, $b_n$ even are. This was confusing, so I saw it and left
– Rushabh Mehta
1 hour ago
@user600384 I edited your question for clearness sake. Now you have TWO answers...
– Robert Z
1 hour ago
@user600384 I edited your question for clearness sake. Now you have TWO answers...
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Yes, the generating function is correct: just apply the operator $xfracddx$ to $sum_ngeq 0 x^n=1/(1-x)$ three times ($3$ is the exponent of $k$) and then divide by $(1-x)$ (for $sum_k=0^n$):
$$f(x)=fracx(1+4x+x^2)(1-x)^5$$
Now, in order to find a polynomial formula for $sum_k=0^n k^3$ we have to extract the coefficient of $x^n$,
$$beginalignsum_k=0^n k^3&=[x^n]f(x)=[x^n](x+4x^2+x^3)cdot(1-x)^-5\&=
[x^n-1](1-x)^-5+4[x^n-2](1-x)^-5+
[x^n-3](1-x)^-5\
&=(-1)^n-1binom-5n-1+4(-1)^n-2binom-5n-2+(-1)^n-3binom-5n-3\
&=binomn+34+4binomn+24+binomn+14
=fracn^2(n+1)^24
endalign$$
where we used
$$binom-rk =(-1)^kbinomr+k-1r-1.$$
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Consider $$S_n=sum_k=0^n k^3 x^k$$ and write
$$k^3=k(k-1)(k-2)+3k(k-1)+k$$ So
$$S_n=x^3sum_k=0^n k(k-1)(k-2)x^k-3+3x^2sum_k=0^n k(k-1)x^k-2+xsum_k=0^n kx^k-1$$ that is to say
$$S_n=x^3left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'''+3x^2left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)''+xleft(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'$$
When finished, consider the limit when $xto 1$ to get the beautiful result.
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Using
$$sum_k=0^n x^k = frac1 - x^n+11-x$$
then by applying the operator $delta = x D$, $D = fracddx$, leads to
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 , x^k = fracx(1-x)^4 , ( 1 + 4x + x^2 - (n+1)^3 , x^n + (3n^3 + 6n^2 - 4) , x^n+1 - (3n^3 + 3n^2 - 3n +1) , x^n+2 + n^3 , x^n+3).$$
By taking the limit as $x to 1$ of both sides, which leads to several derivatives f the right hand side by making use of L'Hospital's rule, leads to the desired result
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 = fracn^2 (n+1)^24.$$
A possible polynomial for the second part may be obtained by seeking the generating function for:
$$sum_n=0^infty fracn^2 (n+1)^24 , x^n = fracx(1+4 x + x^2)(1-x)^5$$
which matches a previously stated polynomial by the proposer.
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Yes, the generating function is correct: just apply the operator $xfracddx$ to $sum_ngeq 0 x^n=1/(1-x)$ three times ($3$ is the exponent of $k$) and then divide by $(1-x)$ (for $sum_k=0^n$):
$$f(x)=fracx(1+4x+x^2)(1-x)^5$$
Now, in order to find a polynomial formula for $sum_k=0^n k^3$ we have to extract the coefficient of $x^n$,
$$beginalignsum_k=0^n k^3&=[x^n]f(x)=[x^n](x+4x^2+x^3)cdot(1-x)^-5\&=
[x^n-1](1-x)^-5+4[x^n-2](1-x)^-5+
[x^n-3](1-x)^-5\
&=(-1)^n-1binom-5n-1+4(-1)^n-2binom-5n-2+(-1)^n-3binom-5n-3\
&=binomn+34+4binomn+24+binomn+14
=fracn^2(n+1)^24
endalign$$
where we used
$$binom-rk =(-1)^kbinomr+k-1r-1.$$
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Yes, the generating function is correct: just apply the operator $xfracddx$ to $sum_ngeq 0 x^n=1/(1-x)$ three times ($3$ is the exponent of $k$) and then divide by $(1-x)$ (for $sum_k=0^n$):
$$f(x)=fracx(1+4x+x^2)(1-x)^5$$
Now, in order to find a polynomial formula for $sum_k=0^n k^3$ we have to extract the coefficient of $x^n$,
$$beginalignsum_k=0^n k^3&=[x^n]f(x)=[x^n](x+4x^2+x^3)cdot(1-x)^-5\&=
[x^n-1](1-x)^-5+4[x^n-2](1-x)^-5+
[x^n-3](1-x)^-5\
&=(-1)^n-1binom-5n-1+4(-1)^n-2binom-5n-2+(-1)^n-3binom-5n-3\
&=binomn+34+4binomn+24+binomn+14
=fracn^2(n+1)^24
endalign$$
where we used
$$binom-rk =(-1)^kbinomr+k-1r-1.$$
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Yes, the generating function is correct: just apply the operator $xfracddx$ to $sum_ngeq 0 x^n=1/(1-x)$ three times ($3$ is the exponent of $k$) and then divide by $(1-x)$ (for $sum_k=0^n$):
$$f(x)=fracx(1+4x+x^2)(1-x)^5$$
Now, in order to find a polynomial formula for $sum_k=0^n k^3$ we have to extract the coefficient of $x^n$,
$$beginalignsum_k=0^n k^3&=[x^n]f(x)=[x^n](x+4x^2+x^3)cdot(1-x)^-5\&=
[x^n-1](1-x)^-5+4[x^n-2](1-x)^-5+
[x^n-3](1-x)^-5\
&=(-1)^n-1binom-5n-1+4(-1)^n-2binom-5n-2+(-1)^n-3binom-5n-3\
&=binomn+34+4binomn+24+binomn+14
=fracn^2(n+1)^24
endalign$$
where we used
$$binom-rk =(-1)^kbinomr+k-1r-1.$$
Yes, the generating function is correct: just apply the operator $xfracddx$ to $sum_ngeq 0 x^n=1/(1-x)$ three times ($3$ is the exponent of $k$) and then divide by $(1-x)$ (for $sum_k=0^n$):
$$f(x)=fracx(1+4x+x^2)(1-x)^5$$
Now, in order to find a polynomial formula for $sum_k=0^n k^3$ we have to extract the coefficient of $x^n$,
$$beginalignsum_k=0^n k^3&=[x^n]f(x)=[x^n](x+4x^2+x^3)cdot(1-x)^-5\&=
[x^n-1](1-x)^-5+4[x^n-2](1-x)^-5+
[x^n-3](1-x)^-5\
&=(-1)^n-1binom-5n-1+4(-1)^n-2binom-5n-2+(-1)^n-3binom-5n-3\
&=binomn+34+4binomn+24+binomn+14
=fracn^2(n+1)^24
endalign$$
where we used
$$binom-rk =(-1)^kbinomr+k-1r-1.$$
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Consider $$S_n=sum_k=0^n k^3 x^k$$ and write
$$k^3=k(k-1)(k-2)+3k(k-1)+k$$ So
$$S_n=x^3sum_k=0^n k(k-1)(k-2)x^k-3+3x^2sum_k=0^n k(k-1)x^k-2+xsum_k=0^n kx^k-1$$ that is to say
$$S_n=x^3left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'''+3x^2left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)''+xleft(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'$$
When finished, consider the limit when $xto 1$ to get the beautiful result.
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Consider $$S_n=sum_k=0^n k^3 x^k$$ and write
$$k^3=k(k-1)(k-2)+3k(k-1)+k$$ So
$$S_n=x^3sum_k=0^n k(k-1)(k-2)x^k-3+3x^2sum_k=0^n k(k-1)x^k-2+xsum_k=0^n kx^k-1$$ that is to say
$$S_n=x^3left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'''+3x^2left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)''+xleft(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'$$
When finished, consider the limit when $xto 1$ to get the beautiful result.
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Consider $$S_n=sum_k=0^n k^3 x^k$$ and write
$$k^3=k(k-1)(k-2)+3k(k-1)+k$$ So
$$S_n=x^3sum_k=0^n k(k-1)(k-2)x^k-3+3x^2sum_k=0^n k(k-1)x^k-2+xsum_k=0^n kx^k-1$$ that is to say
$$S_n=x^3left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'''+3x^2left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)''+xleft(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'$$
When finished, consider the limit when $xto 1$ to get the beautiful result.
Consider $$S_n=sum_k=0^n k^3 x^k$$ and write
$$k^3=k(k-1)(k-2)+3k(k-1)+k$$ So
$$S_n=x^3sum_k=0^n k(k-1)(k-2)x^k-3+3x^2sum_k=0^n k(k-1)x^k-2+xsum_k=0^n kx^k-1$$ that is to say
$$S_n=x^3left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'''+3x^2left(sum_k=0^n x^k right)''+xleft(sum_k=0^n x^k right)'$$
When finished, consider the limit when $xto 1$ to get the beautiful result.
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Using
$$sum_k=0^n x^k = frac1 - x^n+11-x$$
then by applying the operator $delta = x D$, $D = fracddx$, leads to
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 , x^k = fracx(1-x)^4 , ( 1 + 4x + x^2 - (n+1)^3 , x^n + (3n^3 + 6n^2 - 4) , x^n+1 - (3n^3 + 3n^2 - 3n +1) , x^n+2 + n^3 , x^n+3).$$
By taking the limit as $x to 1$ of both sides, which leads to several derivatives f the right hand side by making use of L'Hospital's rule, leads to the desired result
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 = fracn^2 (n+1)^24.$$
A possible polynomial for the second part may be obtained by seeking the generating function for:
$$sum_n=0^infty fracn^2 (n+1)^24 , x^n = fracx(1+4 x + x^2)(1-x)^5$$
which matches a previously stated polynomial by the proposer.
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Using
$$sum_k=0^n x^k = frac1 - x^n+11-x$$
then by applying the operator $delta = x D$, $D = fracddx$, leads to
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 , x^k = fracx(1-x)^4 , ( 1 + 4x + x^2 - (n+1)^3 , x^n + (3n^3 + 6n^2 - 4) , x^n+1 - (3n^3 + 3n^2 - 3n +1) , x^n+2 + n^3 , x^n+3).$$
By taking the limit as $x to 1$ of both sides, which leads to several derivatives f the right hand side by making use of L'Hospital's rule, leads to the desired result
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 = fracn^2 (n+1)^24.$$
A possible polynomial for the second part may be obtained by seeking the generating function for:
$$sum_n=0^infty fracn^2 (n+1)^24 , x^n = fracx(1+4 x + x^2)(1-x)^5$$
which matches a previously stated polynomial by the proposer.
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Using
$$sum_k=0^n x^k = frac1 - x^n+11-x$$
then by applying the operator $delta = x D$, $D = fracddx$, leads to
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 , x^k = fracx(1-x)^4 , ( 1 + 4x + x^2 - (n+1)^3 , x^n + (3n^3 + 6n^2 - 4) , x^n+1 - (3n^3 + 3n^2 - 3n +1) , x^n+2 + n^3 , x^n+3).$$
By taking the limit as $x to 1$ of both sides, which leads to several derivatives f the right hand side by making use of L'Hospital's rule, leads to the desired result
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 = fracn^2 (n+1)^24.$$
A possible polynomial for the second part may be obtained by seeking the generating function for:
$$sum_n=0^infty fracn^2 (n+1)^24 , x^n = fracx(1+4 x + x^2)(1-x)^5$$
which matches a previously stated polynomial by the proposer.
Using
$$sum_k=0^n x^k = frac1 - x^n+11-x$$
then by applying the operator $delta = x D$, $D = fracddx$, leads to
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 , x^k = fracx(1-x)^4 , ( 1 + 4x + x^2 - (n+1)^3 , x^n + (3n^3 + 6n^2 - 4) , x^n+1 - (3n^3 + 3n^2 - 3n +1) , x^n+2 + n^3 , x^n+3).$$
By taking the limit as $x to 1$ of both sides, which leads to several derivatives f the right hand side by making use of L'Hospital's rule, leads to the desired result
$$sum_k=0^n k^3 = fracn^2 (n+1)^24.$$
A possible polynomial for the second part may be obtained by seeking the generating function for:
$$sum_n=0^infty fracn^2 (n+1)^24 , x^n = fracx(1+4 x + x^2)(1-x)^5$$
which matches a previously stated polynomial by the proposer.
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any tips? 15 views but no responses lol
– user600384
2 hours ago
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Your post will probably receive more positive feedback if you format it in MathJax throughout (I see you've done the middle sums).
– Clayton
1 hour ago
Plus, I have no clue what $d_n$, $b_n$ even are. This was confusing, so I saw it and left
– Rushabh Mehta
1 hour ago
@user600384 I edited your question for clearness sake. Now you have TWO answers...
– Robert Z
1 hour ago