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I've been looking for a new job for about 6 months now. I've sent more than 100 applications. I've participated in more than 15 interview processes. In several cases, I got to the fourth or fifth stage but was always rejected. I got two offers but one was so unattractive that I turned it down, the other was at a super small company I couldn't be sure of - I turned it down too.
A few "objective" factors may play a role in my lack of success. I am living abroad and using my second language when applying, which I speak fluently, but which does influence my chances. (My application documents have been checked several times by specialists and they are ok).
Secondly, I'm mainly applying for jobs where women are in minority. In the course of 15+ interview processes, I've met about 40-50 interviewers in all. Maybe 3-5 of them were women.
My "objective" skills (education, former employment, software skills, etc.) are really good compared to other people, and yet I never get the job.
I have several years of post-graduation experience, which however lies in several areas. (I normally applied for a job in area A, which turned out to include tasks in areas B and C). I first applied in A, then extended it to B and even C. Still nothing.
I would love to get some professional advice on my options now. However, I've had only bad experiences with career advisors so far. They normally don't understand the fields I'm applying in (consulting, PM, analytics). They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself. Things that can help people who go to interview in stained jeans and trainers and talk about their admiration for Satan but not people who have some common sense.
Where can I find a good career advisor?
I'm in Western Europe.
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I've been looking for a new job for about 6 months now. I've sent more than 100 applications. I've participated in more than 15 interview processes. In several cases, I got to the fourth or fifth stage but was always rejected. I got two offers but one was so unattractive that I turned it down, the other was at a super small company I couldn't be sure of - I turned it down too.
A few "objective" factors may play a role in my lack of success. I am living abroad and using my second language when applying, which I speak fluently, but which does influence my chances. (My application documents have been checked several times by specialists and they are ok).
Secondly, I'm mainly applying for jobs where women are in minority. In the course of 15+ interview processes, I've met about 40-50 interviewers in all. Maybe 3-5 of them were women.
My "objective" skills (education, former employment, software skills, etc.) are really good compared to other people, and yet I never get the job.
I have several years of post-graduation experience, which however lies in several areas. (I normally applied for a job in area A, which turned out to include tasks in areas B and C). I first applied in A, then extended it to B and even C. Still nothing.
I would love to get some professional advice on my options now. However, I've had only bad experiences with career advisors so far. They normally don't understand the fields I'm applying in (consulting, PM, analytics). They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself. Things that can help people who go to interview in stained jeans and trainers and talk about their admiration for Satan but not people who have some common sense.
Where can I find a good career advisor?
I'm in Western Europe.
interviewing applications careers
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Do you have a professional network of friends? Talk with them.
– Joe Strazzere
1 hour ago
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Have you asked the companies you interviewed with for feedback?
– Philip Kendall
1 hour ago
Free and good quality for a specialised role like counselling is very rare.
– Twyxz
1 hour ago
@JoeStrazzere, mainly in my home country and they don't "get" my problems. I found it much easier myself to find a job in my home country myself. Of course, I do network here, but these networks aren't really established yet, these are new acquaintances.
– european333
1 hour ago
@PhilipKendall. In 95% it was personality based. I was told I'm too analytical. And not enough extroverted. And not enthusiastic enough. And too enthusiastic (so they assume I need a new job really badly). I'm not enough self-confident either. And too self-confident (so they aren't sure I would like what I find at their company).
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I've been looking for a new job for about 6 months now. I've sent more than 100 applications. I've participated in more than 15 interview processes. In several cases, I got to the fourth or fifth stage but was always rejected. I got two offers but one was so unattractive that I turned it down, the other was at a super small company I couldn't be sure of - I turned it down too.
A few "objective" factors may play a role in my lack of success. I am living abroad and using my second language when applying, which I speak fluently, but which does influence my chances. (My application documents have been checked several times by specialists and they are ok).
Secondly, I'm mainly applying for jobs where women are in minority. In the course of 15+ interview processes, I've met about 40-50 interviewers in all. Maybe 3-5 of them were women.
My "objective" skills (education, former employment, software skills, etc.) are really good compared to other people, and yet I never get the job.
I have several years of post-graduation experience, which however lies in several areas. (I normally applied for a job in area A, which turned out to include tasks in areas B and C). I first applied in A, then extended it to B and even C. Still nothing.
I would love to get some professional advice on my options now. However, I've had only bad experiences with career advisors so far. They normally don't understand the fields I'm applying in (consulting, PM, analytics). They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself. Things that can help people who go to interview in stained jeans and trainers and talk about their admiration for Satan but not people who have some common sense.
Where can I find a good career advisor?
I'm in Western Europe.
interviewing applications careers
asked 1 hour ago
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I've been looking for a new job for about 6 months now. I've sent more than 100 applications. I've participated in more than 15 interview processes. In several cases, I got to the fourth or fifth stage but was always rejected. I got two offers but one was so unattractive that I turned it down, the other was at a super small company I couldn't be sure of - I turned it down too.
A few "objective" factors may play a role in my lack of success. I am living abroad and using my second language when applying, which I speak fluently, but which does influence my chances. (My application documents have been checked several times by specialists and they are ok).
Secondly, I'm mainly applying for jobs where women are in minority. In the course of 15+ interview processes, I've met about 40-50 interviewers in all. Maybe 3-5 of them were women.
My "objective" skills (education, former employment, software skills, etc.) are really good compared to other people, and yet I never get the job.
I have several years of post-graduation experience, which however lies in several areas. (I normally applied for a job in area A, which turned out to include tasks in areas B and C). I first applied in A, then extended it to B and even C. Still nothing.
I would love to get some professional advice on my options now. However, I've had only bad experiences with career advisors so far. They normally don't understand the fields I'm applying in (consulting, PM, analytics). They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself. Things that can help people who go to interview in stained jeans and trainers and talk about their admiration for Satan but not people who have some common sense.
Where can I find a good career advisor?
I'm in Western Europe.
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Do you have a professional network of friends? Talk with them.
– Joe Strazzere
1 hour ago
1
Have you asked the companies you interviewed with for feedback?
– Philip Kendall
1 hour ago
Free and good quality for a specialised role like counselling is very rare.
– Twyxz
1 hour ago
@JoeStrazzere, mainly in my home country and they don't "get" my problems. I found it much easier myself to find a job in my home country myself. Of course, I do network here, but these networks aren't really established yet, these are new acquaintances.
– european333
1 hour ago
@PhilipKendall. In 95% it was personality based. I was told I'm too analytical. And not enough extroverted. And not enthusiastic enough. And too enthusiastic (so they assume I need a new job really badly). I'm not enough self-confident either. And too self-confident (so they aren't sure I would like what I find at their company).
– european333
1 hour ago
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Do you have a professional network of friends? Talk with them.
– Joe Strazzere
1 hour ago
1
Have you asked the companies you interviewed with for feedback?
– Philip Kendall
1 hour ago
Free and good quality for a specialised role like counselling is very rare.
– Twyxz
1 hour ago
@JoeStrazzere, mainly in my home country and they don't "get" my problems. I found it much easier myself to find a job in my home country myself. Of course, I do network here, but these networks aren't really established yet, these are new acquaintances.
– european333
1 hour ago
@PhilipKendall. In 95% it was personality based. I was told I'm too analytical. And not enough extroverted. And not enthusiastic enough. And too enthusiastic (so they assume I need a new job really badly). I'm not enough self-confident either. And too self-confident (so they aren't sure I would like what I find at their company).
– european333
1 hour ago
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1
Do you have a professional network of friends? Talk with them.
– Joe Strazzere
1 hour ago
Do you have a professional network of friends? Talk with them.
– Joe Strazzere
1 hour ago
1
1
Have you asked the companies you interviewed with for feedback?
– Philip Kendall
1 hour ago
Have you asked the companies you interviewed with for feedback?
– Philip Kendall
1 hour ago
Free and good quality for a specialised role like counselling is very rare.
– Twyxz
1 hour ago
Free and good quality for a specialised role like counselling is very rare.
– Twyxz
1 hour ago
@JoeStrazzere, mainly in my home country and they don't "get" my problems. I found it much easier myself to find a job in my home country myself. Of course, I do network here, but these networks aren't really established yet, these are new acquaintances.
– european333
1 hour ago
@JoeStrazzere, mainly in my home country and they don't "get" my problems. I found it much easier myself to find a job in my home country myself. Of course, I do network here, but these networks aren't really established yet, these are new acquaintances.
– european333
1 hour ago
@PhilipKendall. In 95% it was personality based. I was told I'm too analytical. And not enough extroverted. And not enthusiastic enough. And too enthusiastic (so they assume I need a new job really badly). I'm not enough self-confident either. And too self-confident (so they aren't sure I would like what I find at their company).
– european333
1 hour ago
@PhilipKendall. In 95% it was personality based. I was told I'm too analytical. And not enough extroverted. And not enthusiastic enough. And too enthusiastic (so they assume I need a new job really badly). I'm not enough self-confident either. And too self-confident (so they aren't sure I would like what I find at their company).
– european333
1 hour ago
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They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself.
Exactly. I'm not sure if you're in highschool as I never heard of a career counselor for a professional already in the field. Maybe that is different in Europe or maybe I just never bothered looking for one. Back in highschool, my counselor asked me if I liked to read books and I replied no, I do not like reading and could barely read a magazine article. She recommended that I go to a vocational school and get a job as a mechanic as if my lack of reading books is a indicator of something bad. Had I followed this advice, I'd be a horrible mechanic as I don't know a thing about repairing cars. For a little while after college, I'd joke about career counselors from high school but after a while, it's long forgotten. I can't imagine anyone taking the advice of a career counselor seriously.
Typically an individual will build his/her professional networks and mentors and go off them. It's best to network with old colleagues and professors. That's how I would approach this. Call up a old coworker from your last company and open communications with them. Also, don't rely solely on other people's advice. Instead look at yourself, what do you want? You have to think selfishly, and say, "I want to be a PM..." or whatever it is you're seeking. Then figure out what you need to do to get to that position and ignore any "advice" to the contrary.
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It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
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They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself.
Exactly. I'm not sure if you're in highschool as I never heard of a career counselor for a professional already in the field. Maybe that is different in Europe or maybe I just never bothered looking for one. Back in highschool, my counselor asked me if I liked to read books and I replied no, I do not like reading and could barely read a magazine article. She recommended that I go to a vocational school and get a job as a mechanic as if my lack of reading books is a indicator of something bad. Had I followed this advice, I'd be a horrible mechanic as I don't know a thing about repairing cars. For a little while after college, I'd joke about career counselors from high school but after a while, it's long forgotten. I can't imagine anyone taking the advice of a career counselor seriously.
Typically an individual will build his/her professional networks and mentors and go off them. It's best to network with old colleagues and professors. That's how I would approach this. Call up a old coworker from your last company and open communications with them. Also, don't rely solely on other people's advice. Instead look at yourself, what do you want? You have to think selfishly, and say, "I want to be a PM..." or whatever it is you're seeking. Then figure out what you need to do to get to that position and ignore any "advice" to the contrary.
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
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It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
– european333
2 mins ago
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They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself.
Exactly. I'm not sure if you're in highschool as I never heard of a career counselor for a professional already in the field. Maybe that is different in Europe or maybe I just never bothered looking for one. Back in highschool, my counselor asked me if I liked to read books and I replied no, I do not like reading and could barely read a magazine article. She recommended that I go to a vocational school and get a job as a mechanic as if my lack of reading books is a indicator of something bad. Had I followed this advice, I'd be a horrible mechanic as I don't know a thing about repairing cars. For a little while after college, I'd joke about career counselors from high school but after a while, it's long forgotten. I can't imagine anyone taking the advice of a career counselor seriously.
Typically an individual will build his/her professional networks and mentors and go off them. It's best to network with old colleagues and professors. That's how I would approach this. Call up a old coworker from your last company and open communications with them. Also, don't rely solely on other people's advice. Instead look at yourself, what do you want? You have to think selfishly, and say, "I want to be a PM..." or whatever it is you're seeking. Then figure out what you need to do to get to that position and ignore any "advice" to the contrary.
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
5,30521222
It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
– european333
2 mins ago
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up vote
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They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself.
Exactly. I'm not sure if you're in highschool as I never heard of a career counselor for a professional already in the field. Maybe that is different in Europe or maybe I just never bothered looking for one. Back in highschool, my counselor asked me if I liked to read books and I replied no, I do not like reading and could barely read a magazine article. She recommended that I go to a vocational school and get a job as a mechanic as if my lack of reading books is a indicator of something bad. Had I followed this advice, I'd be a horrible mechanic as I don't know a thing about repairing cars. For a little while after college, I'd joke about career counselors from high school but after a while, it's long forgotten. I can't imagine anyone taking the advice of a career counselor seriously.
Typically an individual will build his/her professional networks and mentors and go off them. It's best to network with old colleagues and professors. That's how I would approach this. Call up a old coworker from your last company and open communications with them. Also, don't rely solely on other people's advice. Instead look at yourself, what do you want? You have to think selfishly, and say, "I want to be a PM..." or whatever it is you're seeking. Then figure out what you need to do to get to that position and ignore any "advice" to the contrary.
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
5,30521222
They always gave me advice that I could have googled myself.
Exactly. I'm not sure if you're in highschool as I never heard of a career counselor for a professional already in the field. Maybe that is different in Europe or maybe I just never bothered looking for one. Back in highschool, my counselor asked me if I liked to read books and I replied no, I do not like reading and could barely read a magazine article. She recommended that I go to a vocational school and get a job as a mechanic as if my lack of reading books is a indicator of something bad. Had I followed this advice, I'd be a horrible mechanic as I don't know a thing about repairing cars. For a little while after college, I'd joke about career counselors from high school but after a while, it's long forgotten. I can't imagine anyone taking the advice of a career counselor seriously.
Typically an individual will build his/her professional networks and mentors and go off them. It's best to network with old colleagues and professors. That's how I would approach this. Call up a old coworker from your last company and open communications with them. Also, don't rely solely on other people's advice. Instead look at yourself, what do you want? You have to think selfishly, and say, "I want to be a PM..." or whatever it is you're seeking. Then figure out what you need to do to get to that position and ignore any "advice" to the contrary.
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
5,30521222
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
5,30521222
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
5,30521222
answered 47 mins ago
Dan
5,30521222
5,30521222
It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
– european333
2 mins ago
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It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
– european333
2 mins ago
It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
– european333
2 mins ago
It's not about what I want. I know what I want. It's about what I can do. After showing flexibility but getting rejected more than 100 times, I'm really not motivated enough to send 100 more applications.
– european333
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Do you have a professional network of friends? Talk with them.
– Joe Strazzere
1 hour ago
1
Have you asked the companies you interviewed with for feedback?
– Philip Kendall
1 hour ago
Free and good quality for a specialised role like counselling is very rare.
– Twyxz
1 hour ago
@JoeStrazzere, mainly in my home country and they don't "get" my problems. I found it much easier myself to find a job in my home country myself. Of course, I do network here, but these networks aren't really established yet, these are new acquaintances.
– european333
1 hour ago
@PhilipKendall. In 95% it was personality based. I was told I'm too analytical. And not enough extroverted. And not enthusiastic enough. And too enthusiastic (so they assume I need a new job really badly). I'm not enough self-confident either. And too self-confident (so they aren't sure I would like what I find at their company).
– european333
1 hour ago