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When some humans, humanoids and mythical creatures have an incredibly powerful magical regeneration it seems quite obvious that in times of need and growth some countries would try to capture them and use them as ''basic resources''.



This is not really a spoiler because it's on the first 2 pages o the book but
one example is Fire Punch, in order to survive a kid is using his magical regeneration to create food and burning fuel by chopping his limbs continuously.



One real world example is Culling, basically creatures bred and tortured for the only purpose of creating easily accessible resources, whether such creature dies or lives is based on their ability to produce such resources and being spared and surviving might actually be considered a destiny worse than death.



I believe it is historically accurate to assume many kings, queens and people of power would have indeed enslaved such ''people'' and used them for things likes experimentation,food or flesh-shields and for pretty much anything actually...



There are different means of getting the magical automatic regenerative abilities, some of them are either training to become a magical healer or simply being born in a magical forest or being born from parents who had this ability, so it is quite common and they are spread across a world with many far apart isles, almost like if our world had been broken into small pieces distanced by water. Technology is mostly pre-victorian and a few empires and nation have powerful artifacts created with a mixture of engineering and magic, those artifacts can be used to create portals, transform lead in to gold and other things...but they are incredibly rare. The rest of the world is made by mostly tribes and villages.



What is the best way to protect self healing creatures from being turned into slaves?



Religion is excluded because in my setting deities do actually exist but everyone knows they have no say on the subject. A powerful cleric could simply ask a god or goddess if she or he have anything against it and they would respond that they don't care.



Yes, the energy and materials needed for regeneration is infinite and comes from magic.










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    Can we asume that the energy needed for regrowing limbs (to pick up your example) comes from magic? Otherwise conservation of energy would be a problem.
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  • @DarthDonut how does this change the question?
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  • The regenerative people being the ruling class is out of the question? How common are they? What kind of society do they live in? Holy Roman empire = very different from ancient India Btw, it's hard to picture any historic society without religion. Certainly it would be different from anything I know. Please elaborate. I also say it's not reasonable to assume that a merovingian king would've experimented with people. You see that stuff on game of thrones, but not so much before imperialism and science. The issue with the entire statement is that you can argue either way, I'd disagree
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  • @Raditz_35 If you can find a way to make every single person with automatic self healing a ruler, then it would make sense but, how'd you achieve that?
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When some humans, humanoids and mythical creatures have an incredibly powerful magical regeneration it seems quite obvious that in times of need and growth some countries would try to capture them and use them as ''basic resources''.



This is not really a spoiler because it's on the first 2 pages o the book but
one example is Fire Punch, in order to survive a kid is using his magical regeneration to create food and burning fuel by chopping his limbs continuously.



One real world example is Culling, basically creatures bred and tortured for the only purpose of creating easily accessible resources, whether such creature dies or lives is based on their ability to produce such resources and being spared and surviving might actually be considered a destiny worse than death.



I believe it is historically accurate to assume many kings, queens and people of power would have indeed enslaved such ''people'' and used them for things likes experimentation,food or flesh-shields and for pretty much anything actually...



There are different means of getting the magical automatic regenerative abilities, some of them are either training to become a magical healer or simply being born in a magical forest or being born from parents who had this ability, so it is quite common and they are spread across a world with many far apart isles, almost like if our world had been broken into small pieces distanced by water. Technology is mostly pre-victorian and a few empires and nation have powerful artifacts created with a mixture of engineering and magic, those artifacts can be used to create portals, transform lead in to gold and other things...but they are incredibly rare. The rest of the world is made by mostly tribes and villages.



What is the best way to protect self healing creatures from being turned into slaves?



Religion is excluded because in my setting deities do actually exist but everyone knows they have no say on the subject. A powerful cleric could simply ask a god or goddess if she or he have anything against it and they would respond that they don't care.



Yes, the energy and materials needed for regeneration is infinite and comes from magic.










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    Can we asume that the energy needed for regrowing limbs (to pick up your example) comes from magic? Otherwise conservation of energy would be a problem.
    – DarthDonut
    2 hours ago










  • @DarthDonut how does this change the question?
    – Raditz_35
    1 hour ago










  • The regenerative people being the ruling class is out of the question? How common are they? What kind of society do they live in? Holy Roman empire = very different from ancient India Btw, it's hard to picture any historic society without religion. Certainly it would be different from anything I know. Please elaborate. I also say it's not reasonable to assume that a merovingian king would've experimented with people. You see that stuff on game of thrones, but not so much before imperialism and science. The issue with the entire statement is that you can argue either way, I'd disagree
    – Raditz_35
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When some humans, humanoids and mythical creatures have an incredibly powerful magical regeneration it seems quite obvious that in times of need and growth some countries would try to capture them and use them as ''basic resources''.



This is not really a spoiler because it's on the first 2 pages o the book but
one example is Fire Punch, in order to survive a kid is using his magical regeneration to create food and burning fuel by chopping his limbs continuously.



One real world example is Culling, basically creatures bred and tortured for the only purpose of creating easily accessible resources, whether such creature dies or lives is based on their ability to produce such resources and being spared and surviving might actually be considered a destiny worse than death.



I believe it is historically accurate to assume many kings, queens and people of power would have indeed enslaved such ''people'' and used them for things likes experimentation,food or flesh-shields and for pretty much anything actually...



There are different means of getting the magical automatic regenerative abilities, some of them are either training to become a magical healer or simply being born in a magical forest or being born from parents who had this ability, so it is quite common and they are spread across a world with many far apart isles, almost like if our world had been broken into small pieces distanced by water. Technology is mostly pre-victorian and a few empires and nation have powerful artifacts created with a mixture of engineering and magic, those artifacts can be used to create portals, transform lead in to gold and other things...but they are incredibly rare. The rest of the world is made by mostly tribes and villages.



What is the best way to protect self healing creatures from being turned into slaves?



Religion is excluded because in my setting deities do actually exist but everyone knows they have no say on the subject. A powerful cleric could simply ask a god or goddess if she or he have anything against it and they would respond that they don't care.



Yes, the energy and materials needed for regeneration is infinite and comes from magic.










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When some humans, humanoids and mythical creatures have an incredibly powerful magical regeneration it seems quite obvious that in times of need and growth some countries would try to capture them and use them as ''basic resources''.



This is not really a spoiler because it's on the first 2 pages o the book but
one example is Fire Punch, in order to survive a kid is using his magical regeneration to create food and burning fuel by chopping his limbs continuously.



One real world example is Culling, basically creatures bred and tortured for the only purpose of creating easily accessible resources, whether such creature dies or lives is based on their ability to produce such resources and being spared and surviving might actually be considered a destiny worse than death.



I believe it is historically accurate to assume many kings, queens and people of power would have indeed enslaved such ''people'' and used them for things likes experimentation,food or flesh-shields and for pretty much anything actually...



There are different means of getting the magical automatic regenerative abilities, some of them are either training to become a magical healer or simply being born in a magical forest or being born from parents who had this ability, so it is quite common and they are spread across a world with many far apart isles, almost like if our world had been broken into small pieces distanced by water. Technology is mostly pre-victorian and a few empires and nation have powerful artifacts created with a mixture of engineering and magic, those artifacts can be used to create portals, transform lead in to gold and other things...but they are incredibly rare. The rest of the world is made by mostly tribes and villages.



What is the best way to protect self healing creatures from being turned into slaves?



Religion is excluded because in my setting deities do actually exist but everyone knows they have no say on the subject. A powerful cleric could simply ask a god or goddess if she or he have anything against it and they would respond that they don't care.



Yes, the energy and materials needed for regeneration is infinite and comes from magic.







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    Can we asume that the energy needed for regrowing limbs (to pick up your example) comes from magic? Otherwise conservation of energy would be a problem.
    – DarthDonut
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  • @DarthDonut how does this change the question?
    – Raditz_35
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  • The regenerative people being the ruling class is out of the question? How common are they? What kind of society do they live in? Holy Roman empire = very different from ancient India Btw, it's hard to picture any historic society without religion. Certainly it would be different from anything I know. Please elaborate. I also say it's not reasonable to assume that a merovingian king would've experimented with people. You see that stuff on game of thrones, but not so much before imperialism and science. The issue with the entire statement is that you can argue either way, I'd disagree
    – Raditz_35
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  • @Raditz_35 If you can find a way to make every single person with automatic self healing a ruler, then it would make sense but, how'd you achieve that?
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    Can we asume that the energy needed for regrowing limbs (to pick up your example) comes from magic? Otherwise conservation of energy would be a problem.
    – DarthDonut
    2 hours ago










  • @DarthDonut how does this change the question?
    – Raditz_35
    1 hour ago










  • The regenerative people being the ruling class is out of the question? How common are they? What kind of society do they live in? Holy Roman empire = very different from ancient India Btw, it's hard to picture any historic society without religion. Certainly it would be different from anything I know. Please elaborate. I also say it's not reasonable to assume that a merovingian king would've experimented with people. You see that stuff on game of thrones, but not so much before imperialism and science. The issue with the entire statement is that you can argue either way, I'd disagree
    – Raditz_35
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  • @Raditz_35 If you can find a way to make every single person with automatic self healing a ruler, then it would make sense but, how'd you achieve that?
    – Eries
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Can we asume that the energy needed for regrowing limbs (to pick up your example) comes from magic? Otherwise conservation of energy would be a problem.
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Can we asume that the energy needed for regrowing limbs (to pick up your example) comes from magic? Otherwise conservation of energy would be a problem.
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@DarthDonut how does this change the question?
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@DarthDonut how does this change the question?
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The regenerative people being the ruling class is out of the question? How common are they? What kind of society do they live in? Holy Roman empire = very different from ancient India Btw, it's hard to picture any historic society without religion. Certainly it would be different from anything I know. Please elaborate. I also say it's not reasonable to assume that a merovingian king would've experimented with people. You see that stuff on game of thrones, but not so much before imperialism and science. The issue with the entire statement is that you can argue either way, I'd disagree
– Raditz_35
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The regenerative people being the ruling class is out of the question? How common are they? What kind of society do they live in? Holy Roman empire = very different from ancient India Btw, it's hard to picture any historic society without religion. Certainly it would be different from anything I know. Please elaborate. I also say it's not reasonable to assume that a merovingian king would've experimented with people. You see that stuff on game of thrones, but not so much before imperialism and science. The issue with the entire statement is that you can argue either way, I'd disagree
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@Raditz_35 If you can find a way to make every single person with automatic self healing a ruler, then it would make sense but, how'd you achieve that?
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@Raditz_35 If you can find a way to make every single person with automatic self healing a ruler, then it would make sense but, how'd you achieve that?
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It's also historically accurate to suggest the principles of serfdom meant that most of the population were barely better than slaves anyway. Even direct slavery itself was normal until relatively recently and still goes on in many places.



The modern concept that people should have freedom really is a very modern concept and any historical setting should include a fairly solid level of slavery and indentured servitude.



For your character to not be a slave you'd effectively need them to be a member of the nobility.






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    This depends a lot on whether the rulers of this world act like real world medieval nobles did. If the gentry behave like history would suggest, they'd want to turn your regenerating creatures into literal meat for the machine and little short of the ability to resist their will would dissuade them. As such, your self-healing folk have but two realistic courses of action: exodus or rebellion



    Of the two, exodus in the form of self-imposed exile would happen spontaneously all the time since that's just a matter of individuals choosing to hide where they think/hope they won't be persecuted. However, it's untenable in the long term unless they can find somewhere uninhabited by regular humans to settle in. Attempting to hide in lands ruled by the gentry makes it only a matter of time before discovery and capture.



    Which brings me to the bloodier option: a rebellion of regenerating folk banding together to fight for their rights. This could easily become a popular uprising if they tap on the grievances of regular human peasants to convince them to join the cause. A clean victory for the rebels would most likely lead to a new nation being carved out, where the regenerating folk rule over their own kind. Otherwise semi-autonomy or power-sharing could be arranged, but these are definitely the less appealing options that would happen only with a win through compromise. In the long run, it's unlikely the regular human nobles will honour such a deal.






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      If they can choose wether to use their powers or not, they could simply refuse to regenerate when being enslaved and die instead.
      Edit: As you changed your question to what you could do if it was an automatic process.



      You could have the cut off limbs magically disappear so they couldn't be harvested.






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      It's also historically accurate to suggest the principles of serfdom meant that most of the population were barely better than slaves anyway. Even direct slavery itself was normal until relatively recently and still goes on in many places.



      The modern concept that people should have freedom really is a very modern concept and any historical setting should include a fairly solid level of slavery and indentured servitude.



      For your character to not be a slave you'd effectively need them to be a member of the nobility.






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        It's also historically accurate to suggest the principles of serfdom meant that most of the population were barely better than slaves anyway. Even direct slavery itself was normal until relatively recently and still goes on in many places.



        The modern concept that people should have freedom really is a very modern concept and any historical setting should include a fairly solid level of slavery and indentured servitude.



        For your character to not be a slave you'd effectively need them to be a member of the nobility.






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          It's also historically accurate to suggest the principles of serfdom meant that most of the population were barely better than slaves anyway. Even direct slavery itself was normal until relatively recently and still goes on in many places.



          The modern concept that people should have freedom really is a very modern concept and any historical setting should include a fairly solid level of slavery and indentured servitude.



          For your character to not be a slave you'd effectively need them to be a member of the nobility.






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          It's also historically accurate to suggest the principles of serfdom meant that most of the population were barely better than slaves anyway. Even direct slavery itself was normal until relatively recently and still goes on in many places.



          The modern concept that people should have freedom really is a very modern concept and any historical setting should include a fairly solid level of slavery and indentured servitude.



          For your character to not be a slave you'd effectively need them to be a member of the nobility.







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              This depends a lot on whether the rulers of this world act like real world medieval nobles did. If the gentry behave like history would suggest, they'd want to turn your regenerating creatures into literal meat for the machine and little short of the ability to resist their will would dissuade them. As such, your self-healing folk have but two realistic courses of action: exodus or rebellion



              Of the two, exodus in the form of self-imposed exile would happen spontaneously all the time since that's just a matter of individuals choosing to hide where they think/hope they won't be persecuted. However, it's untenable in the long term unless they can find somewhere uninhabited by regular humans to settle in. Attempting to hide in lands ruled by the gentry makes it only a matter of time before discovery and capture.



              Which brings me to the bloodier option: a rebellion of regenerating folk banding together to fight for their rights. This could easily become a popular uprising if they tap on the grievances of regular human peasants to convince them to join the cause. A clean victory for the rebels would most likely lead to a new nation being carved out, where the regenerating folk rule over their own kind. Otherwise semi-autonomy or power-sharing could be arranged, but these are definitely the less appealing options that would happen only with a win through compromise. In the long run, it's unlikely the regular human nobles will honour such a deal.






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                This depends a lot on whether the rulers of this world act like real world medieval nobles did. If the gentry behave like history would suggest, they'd want to turn your regenerating creatures into literal meat for the machine and little short of the ability to resist their will would dissuade them. As such, your self-healing folk have but two realistic courses of action: exodus or rebellion



                Of the two, exodus in the form of self-imposed exile would happen spontaneously all the time since that's just a matter of individuals choosing to hide where they think/hope they won't be persecuted. However, it's untenable in the long term unless they can find somewhere uninhabited by regular humans to settle in. Attempting to hide in lands ruled by the gentry makes it only a matter of time before discovery and capture.



                Which brings me to the bloodier option: a rebellion of regenerating folk banding together to fight for their rights. This could easily become a popular uprising if they tap on the grievances of regular human peasants to convince them to join the cause. A clean victory for the rebels would most likely lead to a new nation being carved out, where the regenerating folk rule over their own kind. Otherwise semi-autonomy or power-sharing could be arranged, but these are definitely the less appealing options that would happen only with a win through compromise. In the long run, it's unlikely the regular human nobles will honour such a deal.






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                  This depends a lot on whether the rulers of this world act like real world medieval nobles did. If the gentry behave like history would suggest, they'd want to turn your regenerating creatures into literal meat for the machine and little short of the ability to resist their will would dissuade them. As such, your self-healing folk have but two realistic courses of action: exodus or rebellion



                  Of the two, exodus in the form of self-imposed exile would happen spontaneously all the time since that's just a matter of individuals choosing to hide where they think/hope they won't be persecuted. However, it's untenable in the long term unless they can find somewhere uninhabited by regular humans to settle in. Attempting to hide in lands ruled by the gentry makes it only a matter of time before discovery and capture.



                  Which brings me to the bloodier option: a rebellion of regenerating folk banding together to fight for their rights. This could easily become a popular uprising if they tap on the grievances of regular human peasants to convince them to join the cause. A clean victory for the rebels would most likely lead to a new nation being carved out, where the regenerating folk rule over their own kind. Otherwise semi-autonomy or power-sharing could be arranged, but these are definitely the less appealing options that would happen only with a win through compromise. In the long run, it's unlikely the regular human nobles will honour such a deal.






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                  This depends a lot on whether the rulers of this world act like real world medieval nobles did. If the gentry behave like history would suggest, they'd want to turn your regenerating creatures into literal meat for the machine and little short of the ability to resist their will would dissuade them. As such, your self-healing folk have but two realistic courses of action: exodus or rebellion



                  Of the two, exodus in the form of self-imposed exile would happen spontaneously all the time since that's just a matter of individuals choosing to hide where they think/hope they won't be persecuted. However, it's untenable in the long term unless they can find somewhere uninhabited by regular humans to settle in. Attempting to hide in lands ruled by the gentry makes it only a matter of time before discovery and capture.



                  Which brings me to the bloodier option: a rebellion of regenerating folk banding together to fight for their rights. This could easily become a popular uprising if they tap on the grievances of regular human peasants to convince them to join the cause. A clean victory for the rebels would most likely lead to a new nation being carved out, where the regenerating folk rule over their own kind. Otherwise semi-autonomy or power-sharing could be arranged, but these are definitely the less appealing options that would happen only with a win through compromise. In the long run, it's unlikely the regular human nobles will honour such a deal.







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                      If they can choose wether to use their powers or not, they could simply refuse to regenerate when being enslaved and die instead.
                      Edit: As you changed your question to what you could do if it was an automatic process.



                      You could have the cut off limbs magically disappear so they couldn't be harvested.






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                      If they can choose wether to use their powers or not, they could simply refuse to regenerate when being enslaved and die instead.
                      Edit: As you changed your question to what you could do if it was an automatic process.



                      You could have the cut off limbs magically disappear so they couldn't be harvested.






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                      If they can choose wether to use their powers or not, they could simply refuse to regenerate when being enslaved and die instead.
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                      You could have the cut off limbs magically disappear so they couldn't be harvested.






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                      If they can choose wether to use their powers or not, they could simply refuse to regenerate when being enslaved and die instead.
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                      You could have the cut off limbs magically disappear so they couldn't be harvested.







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