Is it possible to use the Hunter ranger's Volley ability with the Hail of Thorns spell?

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The Hunter ranger's Volley ability says:




You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range. You must have ammunition for each target, as normal, and you make a separate attack roll for each target.




The hail of thorns spell description (PHB, p. 249) says:




The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends, this spell creates a rain of thorns that sprouts from your ranged weapon or ammunition. In addition to the normal effect of the attack, the target of the attack and each creature within 5 feet of it must make a Dexterity saving throw. A creature takes 1d10 piercing damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one.




Is it possible to use Volley with hail of thorns?



I believe that when the character hits the first creature with Volley, hail of thorns is triggered.










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    The Hunter ranger's Volley ability says:




    You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range. You must have ammunition for each target, as normal, and you make a separate attack roll for each target.




    The hail of thorns spell description (PHB, p. 249) says:




    The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends, this spell creates a rain of thorns that sprouts from your ranged weapon or ammunition. In addition to the normal effect of the attack, the target of the attack and each creature within 5 feet of it must make a Dexterity saving throw. A creature takes 1d10 piercing damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one.




    Is it possible to use Volley with hail of thorns?



    I believe that when the character hits the first creature with Volley, hail of thorns is triggered.










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      The Hunter ranger's Volley ability says:




      You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range. You must have ammunition for each target, as normal, and you make a separate attack roll for each target.




      The hail of thorns spell description (PHB, p. 249) says:




      The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends, this spell creates a rain of thorns that sprouts from your ranged weapon or ammunition. In addition to the normal effect of the attack, the target of the attack and each creature within 5 feet of it must make a Dexterity saving throw. A creature takes 1d10 piercing damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one.




      Is it possible to use Volley with hail of thorns?



      I believe that when the character hits the first creature with Volley, hail of thorns is triggered.










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      The Hunter ranger's Volley ability says:




      You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range. You must have ammunition for each target, as normal, and you make a separate attack roll for each target.




      The hail of thorns spell description (PHB, p. 249) says:




      The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends, this spell creates a rain of thorns that sprouts from your ranged weapon or ammunition. In addition to the normal effect of the attack, the target of the attack and each creature within 5 feet of it must make a Dexterity saving throw. A creature takes 1d10 piercing damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one.




      Is it possible to use Volley with hail of thorns?



      I believe that when the character hits the first creature with Volley, hail of thorns is triggered.







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          (Probably) Yes, but it will trigger only for the first attack.



          As you mentioned, it will trigger for the first hit.



          Hail of Thorns says:




          The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends,




          Volley says:




          You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range.




          Although not specified, Volley should (probably) be a ranged weapon attack, as you are attacking with, well, your weapon. The only discrepancy I see between both texts is this lack of specifying that volley is a weapon attack, so it's the only uncertainty I can see.



          Given the premise that Hail of Thorns does trigger, when does it trigger? In the first hit against a creature. The most logical (IMO) way to rule which creature was the first to be hit by volley is to say they are being hit/targeted in the order you roll - so, the first creature you hit in your rolls will be the first creature your character hits, thus the one triggering hail of thorns.






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            (Probably) Yes, but it will trigger only for the first attack.



            As you mentioned, it will trigger for the first hit.



            Hail of Thorns says:




            The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends,




            Volley says:




            You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range.




            Although not specified, Volley should (probably) be a ranged weapon attack, as you are attacking with, well, your weapon. The only discrepancy I see between both texts is this lack of specifying that volley is a weapon attack, so it's the only uncertainty I can see.



            Given the premise that Hail of Thorns does trigger, when does it trigger? In the first hit against a creature. The most logical (IMO) way to rule which creature was the first to be hit by volley is to say they are being hit/targeted in the order you roll - so, the first creature you hit in your rolls will be the first creature your character hits, thus the one triggering hail of thorns.






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              (Probably) Yes, but it will trigger only for the first attack.



              As you mentioned, it will trigger for the first hit.



              Hail of Thorns says:




              The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends,




              Volley says:




              You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range.




              Although not specified, Volley should (probably) be a ranged weapon attack, as you are attacking with, well, your weapon. The only discrepancy I see between both texts is this lack of specifying that volley is a weapon attack, so it's the only uncertainty I can see.



              Given the premise that Hail of Thorns does trigger, when does it trigger? In the first hit against a creature. The most logical (IMO) way to rule which creature was the first to be hit by volley is to say they are being hit/targeted in the order you roll - so, the first creature you hit in your rolls will be the first creature your character hits, thus the one triggering hail of thorns.






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                (Probably) Yes, but it will trigger only for the first attack.



                As you mentioned, it will trigger for the first hit.



                Hail of Thorns says:




                The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends,




                Volley says:




                You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range.




                Although not specified, Volley should (probably) be a ranged weapon attack, as you are attacking with, well, your weapon. The only discrepancy I see between both texts is this lack of specifying that volley is a weapon attack, so it's the only uncertainty I can see.



                Given the premise that Hail of Thorns does trigger, when does it trigger? In the first hit against a creature. The most logical (IMO) way to rule which creature was the first to be hit by volley is to say they are being hit/targeted in the order you roll - so, the first creature you hit in your rolls will be the first creature your character hits, thus the one triggering hail of thorns.






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                (Probably) Yes, but it will trigger only for the first attack.



                As you mentioned, it will trigger for the first hit.



                Hail of Thorns says:




                The next time you hit a creature with a ranged weapon attack before the spell ends,




                Volley says:




                You can use your action to make a ranged attack against any number of creatures within 10 feet of a point you can see within your weapon’s range.




                Although not specified, Volley should (probably) be a ranged weapon attack, as you are attacking with, well, your weapon. The only discrepancy I see between both texts is this lack of specifying that volley is a weapon attack, so it's the only uncertainty I can see.



                Given the premise that Hail of Thorns does trigger, when does it trigger? In the first hit against a creature. The most logical (IMO) way to rule which creature was the first to be hit by volley is to say they are being hit/targeted in the order you roll - so, the first creature you hit in your rolls will be the first creature your character hits, thus the one triggering hail of thorns.







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