What does it mean to combine the past (았) and future (겠) in a question?

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빈 손으로 왔겠어?



This example contains he past (았) and future (겠) in the same verb form.



In the past I've heard this used for supposition. I could understand this as a statement - meaning someone 'must have' or 'would probably have' come empty handed.



But what does it mean when used in a question in this way? (she doesn't seem to be empty-handed...)






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    빈 손으로 왔겠어?



    This example contains he past (았) and future (겠) in the same verb form.



    In the past I've heard this used for supposition. I could understand this as a statement - meaning someone 'must have' or 'would probably have' come empty handed.



    But what does it mean when used in a question in this way? (she doesn't seem to be empty-handed...)






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      빈 손으로 왔겠어?



      This example contains he past (았) and future (겠) in the same verb form.



      In the past I've heard this used for supposition. I could understand this as a statement - meaning someone 'must have' or 'would probably have' come empty handed.



      But what does it mean when used in a question in this way? (she doesn't seem to be empty-handed...)






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      빈 손으로 왔겠어?



      This example contains he past (았) and future (겠) in the same verb form.



      In the past I've heard this used for supposition. I could understand this as a statement - meaning someone 'must have' or 'would probably have' come empty handed.



      But what does it mean when used in a question in this way? (she doesn't seem to be empty-handed...)






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          1) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했을거야 (추측 = guess )



          Now, she may be in Pusan.



          2) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했겠네. (했 => 추측, 겠 => possibility in future tense)



          That is, if we have some calculation or a clue about arriving, then we use
          ê² . So we do not recommend that we would use ê²  frequently (since our opinion may be
          wrong).



          3) 빈손으로 왔겠어 ?



          Do you have a possibility that I came here with no present ? (Definitely, there is a present)



          얘기 하자고, 만났겠니 ?



          Definitely, I want activities beyond talking.



          @ 들어가도 좋겠습니까 ? Do you allow that I would go into ?



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            Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
            – topo morto♦
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          • Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
            – HK Lee
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          Just like English "will" or "would", -ê² - frequently means assumption:




          좀 있으면 비 오겠다 = It may rain soon.



          아까 그 기차 탔으면 벌써 도착했겠다. = If we had taken the train, we would have arrived by now.




          So, "빈손으로 왔겠다" would mean "[He] would have come empty-handed."



          Now, the tricky part: "내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" would be "would I have come empty-handed?"



          It works basically in the same way in Korean as in English, in that it questions the assumption of the listener:




          Do you think I would have come empty-handed?




          Also, 설마 is used to indicate "there's no chance" and makes sure that the whole question is understood as rhetorical (instead of a genuine question). So, "설마 내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" is something like:




          Come on, you don't think I would have come empty-handed, do you?







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            1) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했을거야 (추측 = guess )



            Now, she may be in Pusan.



            2) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했겠네. (했 => 추측, 겠 => possibility in future tense)



            That is, if we have some calculation or a clue about arriving, then we use
            ê² . So we do not recommend that we would use ê²  frequently (since our opinion may be
            wrong).



            3) 빈손으로 왔겠어 ?



            Do you have a possibility that I came here with no present ? (Definitely, there is a present)



            얘기 하자고, 만났겠니 ?



            Definitely, I want activities beyond talking.



            @ 들어가도 좋겠습니까 ? Do you allow that I would go into ?



            @ http://dic.daum.net/word/view.do?wordid=kkw000011963&supid=kku000016413






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              Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
              – topo morto♦
              4 hours ago










            • Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
              – HK Lee
              4 hours ago














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            1) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했을거야 (추측 = guess )



            Now, she may be in Pusan.



            2) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했겠네. (했 => 추측, 겠 => possibility in future tense)



            That is, if we have some calculation or a clue about arriving, then we use
            ê² . So we do not recommend that we would use ê²  frequently (since our opinion may be
            wrong).



            3) 빈손으로 왔겠어 ?



            Do you have a possibility that I came here with no present ? (Definitely, there is a present)



            얘기 하자고, 만났겠니 ?



            Definitely, I want activities beyond talking.



            @ 들어가도 좋겠습니까 ? Do you allow that I would go into ?



            @ http://dic.daum.net/word/view.do?wordid=kkw000011963&supid=kku000016413






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              Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
              – topo morto♦
              4 hours ago










            • Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
              – HK Lee
              4 hours ago












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            1) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했을거야 (추측 = guess )



            Now, she may be in Pusan.



            2) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했겠네. (했 => 추측, 겠 => possibility in future tense)



            That is, if we have some calculation or a clue about arriving, then we use
            ê² . So we do not recommend that we would use ê²  frequently (since our opinion may be
            wrong).



            3) 빈손으로 왔겠어 ?



            Do you have a possibility that I came here with no present ? (Definitely, there is a present)



            얘기 하자고, 만났겠니 ?



            Definitely, I want activities beyond talking.



            @ 들어가도 좋겠습니까 ? Do you allow that I would go into ?



            @ http://dic.daum.net/word/view.do?wordid=kkw000011963&supid=kku000016413






            share|improve this answer












            1) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했을거야 (추측 = guess )



            Now, she may be in Pusan.



            2) 지금쯤 지혜는 부산에 도착했겠네. (했 => 추측, 겠 => possibility in future tense)



            That is, if we have some calculation or a clue about arriving, then we use
            ê² . So we do not recommend that we would use ê²  frequently (since our opinion may be
            wrong).



            3) 빈손으로 왔겠어 ?



            Do you have a possibility that I came here with no present ? (Definitely, there is a present)



            얘기 하자고, 만났겠니 ?



            Definitely, I want activities beyond talking.



            @ 들어가도 좋겠습니까 ? Do you allow that I would go into ?



            @ http://dic.daum.net/word/view.do?wordid=kkw000011963&supid=kku000016413







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              Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
              – topo morto♦
              4 hours ago










            • Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
              – HK Lee
              4 hours ago












            • 2




              Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
              – topo morto♦
              4 hours ago










            • Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
              – HK Lee
              4 hours ago







            2




            2




            Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
            – topo morto♦
            4 hours ago




            Perhaps the natural translation is "Would I have come empty handed?"
            – topo morto♦
            4 hours ago












            Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
            – HK Lee
            4 hours ago




            Would I have come empty handed = 빈손으로 왔어야 했지 ? = Next, I will not prepare present. In my thought, it is natural.
            – HK Lee
            4 hours ago










            up vote
            1
            down vote













            Just like English "will" or "would", -ê² - frequently means assumption:




            좀 있으면 비 오겠다 = It may rain soon.



            아까 그 기차 탔으면 벌써 도착했겠다. = If we had taken the train, we would have arrived by now.




            So, "빈손으로 왔겠다" would mean "[He] would have come empty-handed."



            Now, the tricky part: "내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" would be "would I have come empty-handed?"



            It works basically in the same way in Korean as in English, in that it questions the assumption of the listener:




            Do you think I would have come empty-handed?




            Also, 설마 is used to indicate "there's no chance" and makes sure that the whole question is understood as rhetorical (instead of a genuine question). So, "설마 내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" is something like:




            Come on, you don't think I would have come empty-handed, do you?







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              Just like English "will" or "would", -ê² - frequently means assumption:




              좀 있으면 비 오겠다 = It may rain soon.



              아까 그 기차 탔으면 벌써 도착했겠다. = If we had taken the train, we would have arrived by now.




              So, "빈손으로 왔겠다" would mean "[He] would have come empty-handed."



              Now, the tricky part: "내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" would be "would I have come empty-handed?"



              It works basically in the same way in Korean as in English, in that it questions the assumption of the listener:




              Do you think I would have come empty-handed?




              Also, 설마 is used to indicate "there's no chance" and makes sure that the whole question is understood as rhetorical (instead of a genuine question). So, "설마 내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" is something like:




              Come on, you don't think I would have come empty-handed, do you?







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                Just like English "will" or "would", -ê² - frequently means assumption:




                좀 있으면 비 오겠다 = It may rain soon.



                아까 그 기차 탔으면 벌써 도착했겠다. = If we had taken the train, we would have arrived by now.




                So, "빈손으로 왔겠다" would mean "[He] would have come empty-handed."



                Now, the tricky part: "내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" would be "would I have come empty-handed?"



                It works basically in the same way in Korean as in English, in that it questions the assumption of the listener:




                Do you think I would have come empty-handed?




                Also, 설마 is used to indicate "there's no chance" and makes sure that the whole question is understood as rhetorical (instead of a genuine question). So, "설마 내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" is something like:




                Come on, you don't think I would have come empty-handed, do you?







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                Just like English "will" or "would", -ê² - frequently means assumption:




                좀 있으면 비 오겠다 = It may rain soon.



                아까 그 기차 탔으면 벌써 도착했겠다. = If we had taken the train, we would have arrived by now.




                So, "빈손으로 왔겠다" would mean "[He] would have come empty-handed."



                Now, the tricky part: "내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" would be "would I have come empty-handed?"



                It works basically in the same way in Korean as in English, in that it questions the assumption of the listener:




                Do you think I would have come empty-handed?




                Also, 설마 is used to indicate "there's no chance" and makes sure that the whole question is understood as rhetorical (instead of a genuine question). So, "설마 내가 빈손으로 왔겠어?" is something like:




                Come on, you don't think I would have come empty-handed, do you?








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