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Here's a question that was asked in the International Kangaroo Math Contest 2016. The question goes like this:
If the perimeter of the square in the figure is 4 units, then what is the perimeter of the equilateral triangle?
What I did:
Well I tried something very naïve and it was the supposition that the equilateral triangle cuts the top side of the square at its midpoint. Hence giving the following result.
By Pythagoras' Theorem,
$$overlineAB = overlineMC = sqrtoverlineBC^2 + overlineBM^2 = sqrtleft(1right)^2 + left(frac12right)^2 = fracsqrt52$$
So perimeter of the triangle is:
$$beginalign
P&=overlineAF +overlineFM+overlineMC+overlineCD+overlineDE+overlineEA\
&= frac12+frac12+fracsqrt52+1+frac12+fracsqrt52\
&= frac52+sqrt5
endalign$$
However this is not the correct answer and I know that the problem is with the supposition that $M$ is the midpoint of $overlineAB$. So what is the correct method and answer?
Thanks for the attention.
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Here's a question that was asked in the International Kangaroo Math Contest 2016. The question goes like this:
If the perimeter of the square in the figure is 4 units, then what is the perimeter of the equilateral triangle?
What I did:
Well I tried something very naïve and it was the supposition that the equilateral triangle cuts the top side of the square at its midpoint. Hence giving the following result.
By Pythagoras' Theorem,
$$overlineAB = overlineMC = sqrtoverlineBC^2 + overlineBM^2 = sqrtleft(1right)^2 + left(frac12right)^2 = fracsqrt52$$
So perimeter of the triangle is:
$$beginalign
P&=overlineAF +overlineFM+overlineMC+overlineCD+overlineDE+overlineEA\
&= frac12+frac12+fracsqrt52+1+frac12+fracsqrt52\
&= frac52+sqrt5
endalign$$
However this is not the correct answer and I know that the problem is with the supposition that $M$ is the midpoint of $overlineAB$. So what is the correct method and answer?
Thanks for the attention.
geometry analytic-geometry
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Here's a question that was asked in the International Kangaroo Math Contest 2016. The question goes like this:
If the perimeter of the square in the figure is 4 units, then what is the perimeter of the equilateral triangle?
What I did:
Well I tried something very naïve and it was the supposition that the equilateral triangle cuts the top side of the square at its midpoint. Hence giving the following result.
By Pythagoras' Theorem,
$$overlineAB = overlineMC = sqrtoverlineBC^2 + overlineBM^2 = sqrtleft(1right)^2 + left(frac12right)^2 = fracsqrt52$$
So perimeter of the triangle is:
$$beginalign
P&=overlineAF +overlineFM+overlineMC+overlineCD+overlineDE+overlineEA\
&= frac12+frac12+fracsqrt52+1+frac12+fracsqrt52\
&= frac52+sqrt5
endalign$$
However this is not the correct answer and I know that the problem is with the supposition that $M$ is the midpoint of $overlineAB$. So what is the correct method and answer?
Thanks for the attention.
geometry analytic-geometry
asked 4 hours ago
Faiq Irfan
512217
Here's a question that was asked in the International Kangaroo Math Contest 2016. The question goes like this:
If the perimeter of the square in the figure is 4 units, then what is the perimeter of the equilateral triangle?
What I did:
Well I tried something very naïve and it was the supposition that the equilateral triangle cuts the top side of the square at its midpoint. Hence giving the following result.
By Pythagoras' Theorem,
$$overlineAB = overlineMC = sqrtoverlineBC^2 + overlineBM^2 = sqrtleft(1right)^2 + left(frac12right)^2 = fracsqrt52$$
So perimeter of the triangle is:
$$beginalign
P&=overlineAF +overlineFM+overlineMC+overlineCD+overlineDE+overlineEA\
&= frac12+frac12+fracsqrt52+1+frac12+fracsqrt52\
&= frac52+sqrt5
endalign$$
However this is not the correct answer and I know that the problem is with the supposition that $M$ is the midpoint of $overlineAB$. So what is the correct method and answer?
Thanks for the attention.
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$M$ is NOT the midpoint of $AB$. Note that the angle $angle MCB$ is equal to $90^circ-60^circ=30^circ$, therefore
$$|MB|=|BC|tan(30^circ)=frac1sqrt3.$$
Moreover $|ED|=|MB|$ (why?).
Can you take it from here?
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Note that the angle AED is $fracpi3$ radians (or 60 degrees if you prefer). Since the side opposite that angle is $1$, and $tan(fracpi3)$ is $sqrt3$, we know that the side ED must be of length $fracsqrt33$. The triangle MBC is similar to EAD, so the side MB is also $fracsqrt33$. You can use Pythagorean's Theorem and the fact that each side of the square is 1 to find the lengths of all the remaining sides needed.
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Given a horizontal segment with length $L$ and two lines
$$
begincases
y_1 = x tan(fracpi3)\
y_2 = L-xtan(fracpi2)
endcases
$$
their intersection is at
$$
y_1=y_2Rightarrow x = fracLtan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2)
$$
hence the equilateral triangle has perimeter $3L$ and the square has perimeter $4 x = frac4Ltan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2) = frac4Lsqrt 3+1$
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Referring to the figure, let $x$ and $h$ be half-side and height of equilateral triangle, resp.:
$hspace3cm$
For the equilateral triangle:
$$h^2+x^2=(2x)^2 Rightarrow h^2=3x^2 Rightarrow h=xsqrt3.$$
From the similarity of triangles:
$$frach4=fracx2x-4 Rightarrow fracxsqrt34=fracx2(x-2) Rightarrow x=frac2sqrt33+2 Rightarrow P=6x=4sqrt3+12.$$
Addendum: It was stated the perimeter of the square is $4$, not the side. So, the answer must be divided by $4$ to get $3+sqrt3$.
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We only need to know that the $angle ABC=30°$, the rest is just straight forward.
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$M$ is NOT the midpoint of $AB$. Note that the angle $angle MCB$ is equal to $90^circ-60^circ=30^circ$, therefore
$$|MB|=|BC|tan(30^circ)=frac1sqrt3.$$
Moreover $|ED|=|MB|$ (why?).
Can you take it from here?
answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
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Wish I'd refreshed before posting my answer, I may have given too much away!
– Tartaglia's Stutter
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$M$ is NOT the midpoint of $AB$. Note that the angle $angle MCB$ is equal to $90^circ-60^circ=30^circ$, therefore
$$|MB|=|BC|tan(30^circ)=frac1sqrt3.$$
Moreover $|ED|=|MB|$ (why?).
Can you take it from here?
answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
87.5k1056127
Wish I'd refreshed before posting my answer, I may have given too much away!
– Tartaglia's Stutter
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$M$ is NOT the midpoint of $AB$. Note that the angle $angle MCB$ is equal to $90^circ-60^circ=30^circ$, therefore
$$|MB|=|BC|tan(30^circ)=frac1sqrt3.$$
Moreover $|ED|=|MB|$ (why?).
Can you take it from here?
answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
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$M$ is NOT the midpoint of $AB$. Note that the angle $angle MCB$ is equal to $90^circ-60^circ=30^circ$, therefore
$$|MB|=|BC|tan(30^circ)=frac1sqrt3.$$
Moreover $|ED|=|MB|$ (why?).
Can you take it from here?
answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
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answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
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answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
87.5k1056127
answered 4 hours ago
Robert Z
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87.5k1056127
Wish I'd refreshed before posting my answer, I may have given too much away!
– Tartaglia's Stutter
4 hours ago
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Wish I'd refreshed before posting my answer, I may have given too much away!
– Tartaglia's Stutter
4 hours ago
Wish I'd refreshed before posting my answer, I may have given too much away!
– Tartaglia's Stutter
4 hours ago
Wish I'd refreshed before posting my answer, I may have given too much away!
– Tartaglia's Stutter
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Note that the angle AED is $fracpi3$ radians (or 60 degrees if you prefer). Since the side opposite that angle is $1$, and $tan(fracpi3)$ is $sqrt3$, we know that the side ED must be of length $fracsqrt33$. The triangle MBC is similar to EAD, so the side MB is also $fracsqrt33$. You can use Pythagorean's Theorem and the fact that each side of the square is 1 to find the lengths of all the remaining sides needed.
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Nice answer. BTW I like your username.
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Note that the angle AED is $fracpi3$ radians (or 60 degrees if you prefer). Since the side opposite that angle is $1$, and $tan(fracpi3)$ is $sqrt3$, we know that the side ED must be of length $fracsqrt33$. The triangle MBC is similar to EAD, so the side MB is also $fracsqrt33$. You can use Pythagorean's Theorem and the fact that each side of the square is 1 to find the lengths of all the remaining sides needed.
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Note that the angle AED is $fracpi3$ radians (or 60 degrees if you prefer). Since the side opposite that angle is $1$, and $tan(fracpi3)$ is $sqrt3$, we know that the side ED must be of length $fracsqrt33$. The triangle MBC is similar to EAD, so the side MB is also $fracsqrt33$. You can use Pythagorean's Theorem and the fact that each side of the square is 1 to find the lengths of all the remaining sides needed.
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Note that the angle AED is $fracpi3$ radians (or 60 degrees if you prefer). Since the side opposite that angle is $1$, and $tan(fracpi3)$ is $sqrt3$, we know that the side ED must be of length $fracsqrt33$. The triangle MBC is similar to EAD, so the side MB is also $fracsqrt33$. You can use Pythagorean's Theorem and the fact that each side of the square is 1 to find the lengths of all the remaining sides needed.
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Nice answer. BTW I like your username.
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Nice answer. BTW I like your username.
– Robert Z
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Nice answer. BTW I like your username.
– Robert Z
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Nice answer. BTW I like your username.
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Given a horizontal segment with length $L$ and two lines
$$
begincases
y_1 = x tan(fracpi3)\
y_2 = L-xtan(fracpi2)
endcases
$$
their intersection is at
$$
y_1=y_2Rightarrow x = fracLtan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2)
$$
hence the equilateral triangle has perimeter $3L$ and the square has perimeter $4 x = frac4Ltan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2) = frac4Lsqrt 3+1$
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Given a horizontal segment with length $L$ and two lines
$$
begincases
y_1 = x tan(fracpi3)\
y_2 = L-xtan(fracpi2)
endcases
$$
their intersection is at
$$
y_1=y_2Rightarrow x = fracLtan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2)
$$
hence the equilateral triangle has perimeter $3L$ and the square has perimeter $4 x = frac4Ltan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2) = frac4Lsqrt 3+1$
answered 5 mins ago
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up vote
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Given a horizontal segment with length $L$ and two lines
$$
begincases
y_1 = x tan(fracpi3)\
y_2 = L-xtan(fracpi2)
endcases
$$
their intersection is at
$$
y_1=y_2Rightarrow x = fracLtan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2)
$$
hence the equilateral triangle has perimeter $3L$ and the square has perimeter $4 x = frac4Ltan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2) = frac4Lsqrt 3+1$
answered 5 mins ago
Cesareo
7,1072415
Given a horizontal segment with length $L$ and two lines
$$
begincases
y_1 = x tan(fracpi3)\
y_2 = L-xtan(fracpi2)
endcases
$$
their intersection is at
$$
y_1=y_2Rightarrow x = fracLtan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2)
$$
hence the equilateral triangle has perimeter $3L$ and the square has perimeter $4 x = frac4Ltan(fracpi3)+tan(fracpi2) = frac4Lsqrt 3+1$
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Referring to the figure, let $x$ and $h$ be half-side and height of equilateral triangle, resp.:
$hspace3cm$
For the equilateral triangle:
$$h^2+x^2=(2x)^2 Rightarrow h^2=3x^2 Rightarrow h=xsqrt3.$$
From the similarity of triangles:
$$frach4=fracx2x-4 Rightarrow fracxsqrt34=fracx2(x-2) Rightarrow x=frac2sqrt33+2 Rightarrow P=6x=4sqrt3+12.$$
Addendum: It was stated the perimeter of the square is $4$, not the side. So, the answer must be divided by $4$ to get $3+sqrt3$.
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Referring to the figure, let $x$ and $h$ be half-side and height of equilateral triangle, resp.:
$hspace3cm$
For the equilateral triangle:
$$h^2+x^2=(2x)^2 Rightarrow h^2=3x^2 Rightarrow h=xsqrt3.$$
From the similarity of triangles:
$$frach4=fracx2x-4 Rightarrow fracxsqrt34=fracx2(x-2) Rightarrow x=frac2sqrt33+2 Rightarrow P=6x=4sqrt3+12.$$
Addendum: It was stated the perimeter of the square is $4$, not the side. So, the answer must be divided by $4$ to get $3+sqrt3$.
answered 4 hours ago
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Referring to the figure, let $x$ and $h$ be half-side and height of equilateral triangle, resp.:
$hspace3cm$
For the equilateral triangle:
$$h^2+x^2=(2x)^2 Rightarrow h^2=3x^2 Rightarrow h=xsqrt3.$$
From the similarity of triangles:
$$frach4=fracx2x-4 Rightarrow fracxsqrt34=fracx2(x-2) Rightarrow x=frac2sqrt33+2 Rightarrow P=6x=4sqrt3+12.$$
Addendum: It was stated the perimeter of the square is $4$, not the side. So, the answer must be divided by $4$ to get $3+sqrt3$.
answered 4 hours ago
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Referring to the figure, let $x$ and $h$ be half-side and height of equilateral triangle, resp.:
$hspace3cm$
For the equilateral triangle:
$$h^2+x^2=(2x)^2 Rightarrow h^2=3x^2 Rightarrow h=xsqrt3.$$
From the similarity of triangles:
$$frach4=fracx2x-4 Rightarrow fracxsqrt34=fracx2(x-2) Rightarrow x=frac2sqrt33+2 Rightarrow P=6x=4sqrt3+12.$$
Addendum: It was stated the perimeter of the square is $4$, not the side. So, the answer must be divided by $4$ to get $3+sqrt3$.
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We only need to know that the $angle ABC=30°$, the rest is just straight forward.
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We only need to know that the $angle ABC=30°$, the rest is just straight forward.
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We only need to know that the $angle ABC=30°$, the rest is just straight forward.
answered 1 hour ago
Seyed
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We only need to know that the $angle ABC=30°$, the rest is just straight forward.
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Seyed
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answered 1 hour ago
Seyed
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