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How many years could notebooks and phones be stored in a closed bunker/vault and still operational when found?
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The idea is for some people in a post-apocalyptic future to find these bunkers/vaults and be able to turn on the computers and charge the cellphones. How many years could the equipment last if they were stored in very good conditions (no sun light, no humidity, all covered in plastic or inside boxes)? 10 years? 100 years?
There are already some related questions (this one specific about cars), but in most of them the objects where abandoned in the environment or left behind without being properly stored.
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The idea is for some people in a post-apocalyptic future to find these bunkers/vaults and be able to turn on the computers and charge the cellphones. How many years could the equipment last if they were stored in very good conditions (no sun light, no humidity, all covered in plastic or inside boxes)? 10 years? 100 years?
There are already some related questions (this one specific about cars), but in most of them the objects where abandoned in the environment or left behind without being properly stored.
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Can the devices be plugged in to wall power? As Separatrix mentioned, the batteries in these devices will most definitely be the first things to go. Even with a dead battery, most modern devices can still function when provided wall power (or bypassed rather easily to function with the appropriate DC voltage being provided otherwise).
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The idea is for some people in a post-apocalyptic future to find these bunkers/vaults and be able to turn on the computers and charge the cellphones. How many years could the equipment last if they were stored in very good conditions (no sun light, no humidity, all covered in plastic or inside boxes)? 10 years? 100 years?
There are already some related questions (this one specific about cars), but in most of them the objects where abandoned in the environment or left behind without being properly stored.
reality-check post-apocalypse
edited 16 mins ago
Gunnar Södergren
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asked 2 hours ago
Lupino
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The idea is for some people in a post-apocalyptic future to find these bunkers/vaults and be able to turn on the computers and charge the cellphones. How many years could the equipment last if they were stored in very good conditions (no sun light, no humidity, all covered in plastic or inside boxes)? 10 years? 100 years?
There are already some related questions (this one specific about cars), but in most of them the objects where abandoned in the environment or left behind without being properly stored.
reality-check post-apocalypse
reality-check post-apocalypse
edited 16 mins ago
Gunnar Södergren
1359
asked 2 hours ago
Lupino
96521
edited 16 mins ago
Gunnar Södergren
1359
asked 2 hours ago
Lupino
96521
edited 16 mins ago
Gunnar Södergren
1359
edited 16 mins ago
Gunnar Södergren
1359
edited 16 mins ago
Gunnar Södergren
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Lupino
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Lupino
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Lupino
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Can the devices be plugged in to wall power? As Separatrix mentioned, the batteries in these devices will most definitely be the first things to go. Even with a dead battery, most modern devices can still function when provided wall power (or bypassed rather easily to function with the appropriate DC voltage being provided otherwise).
– ColonelPanic
1 hour ago
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Can the devices be plugged in to wall power? As Separatrix mentioned, the batteries in these devices will most definitely be the first things to go. Even with a dead battery, most modern devices can still function when provided wall power (or bypassed rather easily to function with the appropriate DC voltage being provided otherwise).
– ColonelPanic
1 hour ago
Can the devices be plugged in to wall power? As Separatrix mentioned, the batteries in these devices will most definitely be the first things to go. Even with a dead battery, most modern devices can still function when provided wall power (or bypassed rather easily to function with the appropriate DC voltage being provided otherwise).
– ColonelPanic
1 hour ago
Can the devices be plugged in to wall power? As Separatrix mentioned, the batteries in these devices will most definitely be the first things to go. Even with a dead battery, most modern devices can still function when provided wall power (or bypassed rather easily to function with the appropriate DC voltage being provided otherwise).
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There are two primary parts you need to consider the shelf life of for these devices
- Magnetic storage
- The battery
The general theme of this is that while magnetic storage shelf life can be measured in decades. LiPo battery shelf life is measured in years.
The real limiting factor here is the LiPo batteries. They don't like being overcharged, or fully discharged, or shocked, or not used, or overused. Their general reaction to all of these things is to explode.
So while visually they may be in pristine condition, the chances of being able to get any of these devices to run is minimal after anything over a decade of storage.
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
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+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
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1 Answer
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active
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active
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up vote
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There are two primary parts you need to consider the shelf life of for these devices
- Magnetic storage
- The battery
The general theme of this is that while magnetic storage shelf life can be measured in decades. LiPo battery shelf life is measured in years.
The real limiting factor here is the LiPo batteries. They don't like being overcharged, or fully discharged, or shocked, or not used, or overused. Their general reaction to all of these things is to explode.
So while visually they may be in pristine condition, the chances of being able to get any of these devices to run is minimal after anything over a decade of storage.
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
There are two primary parts you need to consider the shelf life of for these devices
- Magnetic storage
- The battery
The general theme of this is that while magnetic storage shelf life can be measured in decades. LiPo battery shelf life is measured in years.
The real limiting factor here is the LiPo batteries. They don't like being overcharged, or fully discharged, or shocked, or not used, or overused. Their general reaction to all of these things is to explode.
So while visually they may be in pristine condition, the chances of being able to get any of these devices to run is minimal after anything over a decade of storage.
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
There are two primary parts you need to consider the shelf life of for these devices
- Magnetic storage
- The battery
The general theme of this is that while magnetic storage shelf life can be measured in decades. LiPo battery shelf life is measured in years.
The real limiting factor here is the LiPo batteries. They don't like being overcharged, or fully discharged, or shocked, or not used, or overused. Their general reaction to all of these things is to explode.
So while visually they may be in pristine condition, the chances of being able to get any of these devices to run is minimal after anything over a decade of storage.
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
There are two primary parts you need to consider the shelf life of for these devices
- Magnetic storage
- The battery
The general theme of this is that while magnetic storage shelf life can be measured in decades. LiPo battery shelf life is measured in years.
The real limiting factor here is the LiPo batteries. They don't like being overcharged, or fully discharged, or shocked, or not used, or overused. Their general reaction to all of these things is to explode.
So while visually they may be in pristine condition, the chances of being able to get any of these devices to run is minimal after anything over a decade of storage.
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
answered 2 hours ago
Separatrix
70.7k30166276
70.7k30166276
+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
add a comment |Â
+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
+1, the batteries, they will degrade within a decade no matter how well stored. I'd also add mobile phones won't call anywhere without cellular towers and computers that have electricity, and in a post-apoc world, I doubt you have the full electrical grid up and powering everything. If you do, get those manufacturing plants running to manufacture new batteries!
– Amadeus
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
The storage on these devices is solid state, not magnetic. Still good answer because the Li batteries are the big issue.
– pojo-guy
1 hour ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
@pojo-guy, the trouble is that solid state drives are too new for there to be real data. I've seen estimated values from over 300years of solid use to 7 days when unpowered.
– Separatrix
42 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
It is possible that the batteries could be taken out and a wall socket hooked up to solar panels could be used.
– 0something0
32 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
I always figured that things like batteries and various other parts would be something that you would plan your "hopefully long surviving" bunker to be able to manufacture. along with some form of power source to charge them
– Blade Wraith
23 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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Can the devices be plugged in to wall power? As Separatrix mentioned, the batteries in these devices will most definitely be the first things to go. Even with a dead battery, most modern devices can still function when provided wall power (or bypassed rather easily to function with the appropriate DC voltage being provided otherwise).
– ColonelPanic
1 hour ago