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The following sentence is from a description of an ability in the video game, Pillars of Eternity 2. It is the first clause that concerns me here:
Der Barbar schleudert eine große mit Wut erfüllte Waffe auf das Ziel, die beim Auftreffen in einem Feuerball explodiert.
My question is:
shouldn't erfüllte be erfüllten in this case due to the dative preposition mit? Does the fact that Waffe being the direct object of schleudert nullify the dative case that normally follows mit?
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The following sentence is from a description of an ability in the video game, Pillars of Eternity 2. It is the first clause that concerns me here:
Der Barbar schleudert eine große mit Wut erfüllte Waffe auf das Ziel, die beim Auftreffen in einem Feuerball explodiert.
My question is:
shouldn't erfüllte be erfüllten in this case due to the dative preposition mit? Does the fact that Waffe being the direct object of schleudert nullify the dative case that normally follows mit?
adjectives declension
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Christian Geiselmann
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asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
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The following sentence is from a description of an ability in the video game, Pillars of Eternity 2. It is the first clause that concerns me here:
Der Barbar schleudert eine große mit Wut erfüllte Waffe auf das Ziel, die beim Auftreffen in einem Feuerball explodiert.
My question is:
shouldn't erfüllte be erfüllten in this case due to the dative preposition mit? Does the fact that Waffe being the direct object of schleudert nullify the dative case that normally follows mit?
adjectives declension
edited 10 mins ago
Christian Geiselmann
17.7k1248
asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
1395
The following sentence is from a description of an ability in the video game, Pillars of Eternity 2. It is the first clause that concerns me here:
Der Barbar schleudert eine große mit Wut erfüllte Waffe auf das Ziel, die beim Auftreffen in einem Feuerball explodiert.
My question is:
shouldn't erfüllte be erfüllten in this case due to the dative preposition mit? Does the fact that Waffe being the direct object of schleudert nullify the dative case that normally follows mit?
adjectives declension
adjectives declension
edited 10 mins ago
Christian Geiselmann
17.7k1248
asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
1395
edited 10 mins ago
Christian Geiselmann
17.7k1248
asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
1395
edited 10 mins ago
Christian Geiselmann
17.7k1248
edited 10 mins ago
Christian Geiselmann
17.7k1248
edited 10 mins ago
Christian Geiselmann
17.7k1248
17.7k1248
asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
1395
asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
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asked 5 hours ago
Paolo Menuez
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The dative caused by mit is on "Wut", not on "Waffe".
And because both "große" and "erfüllte" belong to "Waffe", which is accusative, they need to be accusative as well.
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
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+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
2
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
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The dative caused by mit is on "Wut", not on "Waffe".
And because both "große" and "erfüllte" belong to "Waffe", which is accusative, they need to be accusative as well.
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
2
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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3
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The dative caused by mit is on "Wut", not on "Waffe".
And because both "große" and "erfüllte" belong to "Waffe", which is accusative, they need to be accusative as well.
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
2
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
The dative caused by mit is on "Wut", not on "Waffe".
And because both "große" and "erfüllte" belong to "Waffe", which is accusative, they need to be accusative as well.
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
The dative caused by mit is on "Wut", not on "Waffe".
And because both "große" and "erfüllte" belong to "Waffe", which is accusative, they need to be accusative as well.
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
answered 2 hours ago
tofro
39.2k137117
39.2k137117
+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
2
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
add a comment |Â
+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
2
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
+1, this is a question of scope. The word "erfüllte" is not within the prepositional phrase, therefore the word "mit" is irrelevant.
– Kilian Foth
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
I guess mit Wut is a prepositional phrase that works here as an adverb modifying the verb schleudert. Is it a common style to insert such a prepositional phrase which doesn't modify the noun Waffe between the two subsequent adjectives große, erfüllte? Does that give mit Wut a special emphasis due to its unusual position?
– User
1 hour ago
2
2
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
The sentence is bad style. A "weapon filled with rage" appears weird because people are in rage, not weapons (at least in German, maybe it's acceptable in English, although I doubt it). Grammar-wise the sentence is correct, but its weirdness makes it harder to read and understand, which impedes the grammatical analysis.
– RHa
25 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
@RHa Good observation! With proper content, the sentence gets indeed clearer: Der Konditor schleudert eine große, mit Schokocreme gefüllte Waffel auf das Brautpaar, die beim Auftreffen in einem Fett- und Sahneregen zerstiebt.
– Christian Geiselmann
11 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
It is indeed quite strange, but I think there is magic in that game, so who knows.
– Carsten S
6 mins ago
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