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Have you ever received the highest performance rating but not gotten a raise? [closed]
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This happened to me twice in the recent past, My manager was incredulous that his manager overrode his salary recommendation. The first time I went to HR and asked about it, I told them "if this is company policy for all who were in my same situation (theres a salary matrix for every position, and I was in a pay range where they would give raises as per their written policy) Im fine with it". "Is this the policy?" The HR rep said they did not know. This seemed impossible but thats the all I could do.
The second time, they said we will check into it. Then, in spite of the fact that my review was officially approved by my manager's manager, they said that that rating was not allowed, and my review had to be downgraded and reapproved. No raise again, and a downgraded rating. Does this go on in other companies?
salary performance-reviews
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
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closed as off-topic by Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz Jun 3 '16 at 18:40
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This happened to me twice in the recent past, My manager was incredulous that his manager overrode his salary recommendation. The first time I went to HR and asked about it, I told them "if this is company policy for all who were in my same situation (theres a salary matrix for every position, and I was in a pay range where they would give raises as per their written policy) Im fine with it". "Is this the policy?" The HR rep said they did not know. This seemed impossible but thats the all I could do.
The second time, they said we will check into it. Then, in spite of the fact that my review was officially approved by my manager's manager, they said that that rating was not allowed, and my review had to be downgraded and reapproved. No raise again, and a downgraded rating. Does this go on in other companies?
salary performance-reviews
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
bikequus
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closed as off-topic by Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz Jun 3 '16 at 18:40
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz
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This isn't really an answerable question here. More of a rant.
– Chris E
Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
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I hope this isn't a common practice in the workforce and you get some resolution to this problem.
– user8365
Jun 3 '16 at 18:10
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Unfortunately polling questions are off topic. I'd suggest trying chat chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3060/the-water-cooler
– Myles
Jun 3 '16 at 18:17
I see how it can be viewed and as polling or a rant, yet often Ive simply wondered what the rest of the working world is like, these are things Im reluctant to share in my workplace, and Ive simply sucked it up, maybe Im a dope for allowing this sort of treatment or its what everyone deals with.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:22
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Yes that has happened at other companies. Did you get what you were looking for?
– Masked Man♦
Jun 4 '16 at 23:59
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This happened to me twice in the recent past, My manager was incredulous that his manager overrode his salary recommendation. The first time I went to HR and asked about it, I told them "if this is company policy for all who were in my same situation (theres a salary matrix for every position, and I was in a pay range where they would give raises as per their written policy) Im fine with it". "Is this the policy?" The HR rep said they did not know. This seemed impossible but thats the all I could do.
The second time, they said we will check into it. Then, in spite of the fact that my review was officially approved by my manager's manager, they said that that rating was not allowed, and my review had to be downgraded and reapproved. No raise again, and a downgraded rating. Does this go on in other companies?
salary performance-reviews
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
bikequus
115
This happened to me twice in the recent past, My manager was incredulous that his manager overrode his salary recommendation. The first time I went to HR and asked about it, I told them "if this is company policy for all who were in my same situation (theres a salary matrix for every position, and I was in a pay range where they would give raises as per their written policy) Im fine with it". "Is this the policy?" The HR rep said they did not know. This seemed impossible but thats the all I could do.
The second time, they said we will check into it. Then, in spite of the fact that my review was officially approved by my manager's manager, they said that that rating was not allowed, and my review had to be downgraded and reapproved. No raise again, and a downgraded rating. Does this go on in other companies?
salary performance-reviews
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
bikequus
115
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
bikequus
115
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
bikequus
115
asked Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
bikequus
115
115
closed as off-topic by Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz Jun 3 '16 at 18:40
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz
closed as off-topic by Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz Jun 3 '16 at 18:40
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Chris E, alroc, Adam V, Myles, mcknz
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This isn't really an answerable question here. More of a rant.
– Chris E
Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
1
I hope this isn't a common practice in the workforce and you get some resolution to this problem.
– user8365
Jun 3 '16 at 18:10
1
Unfortunately polling questions are off topic. I'd suggest trying chat chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3060/the-water-cooler
– Myles
Jun 3 '16 at 18:17
I see how it can be viewed and as polling or a rant, yet often Ive simply wondered what the rest of the working world is like, these are things Im reluctant to share in my workplace, and Ive simply sucked it up, maybe Im a dope for allowing this sort of treatment or its what everyone deals with.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:22
1
Yes that has happened at other companies. Did you get what you were looking for?
– Masked Man♦
Jun 4 '16 at 23:59
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This isn't really an answerable question here. More of a rant.
– Chris E
Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
1
I hope this isn't a common practice in the workforce and you get some resolution to this problem.
– user8365
Jun 3 '16 at 18:10
1
Unfortunately polling questions are off topic. I'd suggest trying chat chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3060/the-water-cooler
– Myles
Jun 3 '16 at 18:17
I see how it can be viewed and as polling or a rant, yet often Ive simply wondered what the rest of the working world is like, these are things Im reluctant to share in my workplace, and Ive simply sucked it up, maybe Im a dope for allowing this sort of treatment or its what everyone deals with.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:22
1
Yes that has happened at other companies. Did you get what you were looking for?
– Masked Man♦
Jun 4 '16 at 23:59
5
5
This isn't really an answerable question here. More of a rant.
– Chris E
Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
This isn't really an answerable question here. More of a rant.
– Chris E
Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
1
1
I hope this isn't a common practice in the workforce and you get some resolution to this problem.
– user8365
Jun 3 '16 at 18:10
I hope this isn't a common practice in the workforce and you get some resolution to this problem.
– user8365
Jun 3 '16 at 18:10
1
1
Unfortunately polling questions are off topic. I'd suggest trying chat chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3060/the-water-cooler
– Myles
Jun 3 '16 at 18:17
Unfortunately polling questions are off topic. I'd suggest trying chat chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3060/the-water-cooler
– Myles
Jun 3 '16 at 18:17
I see how it can be viewed and as polling or a rant, yet often Ive simply wondered what the rest of the working world is like, these are things Im reluctant to share in my workplace, and Ive simply sucked it up, maybe Im a dope for allowing this sort of treatment or its what everyone deals with.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:22
I see how it can be viewed and as polling or a rant, yet often Ive simply wondered what the rest of the working world is like, these are things Im reluctant to share in my workplace, and Ive simply sucked it up, maybe Im a dope for allowing this sort of treatment or its what everyone deals with.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:22
1
1
Yes that has happened at other companies. Did you get what you were looking for?
– Masked Man♦
Jun 4 '16 at 23:59
Yes that has happened at other companies. Did you get what you were looking for?
– Masked Man♦
Jun 4 '16 at 23:59
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Have you ever received the highest performance rating but not gotten a
raise?
Yes, but the circumstances don't match yours. In my case, the company was in a tight financial situation, and nobody got raises that year. That fact was communicated publicly to everyone.
Does this go on in other companies?
Perhaps. My guess is that your manager and your manager's boss didn't agree on your review and/or raise.
That happens.
Good companies have processes in place where the details are resolved and disagreements ironed out before any discussion with the employee occurs. That
way, you can avoid the situation you find yourself in.
It could be just a case of a poorly executed process. Or it could be something else. And it doesn't really matter if this happens at other companies or not. What matters is what happened at your company and what you can do about it.
If you are friendly and close enough to your manager, a quiet, private conversation with him could enlighten you as to what actually happened.
You might find that there's something you personally need to do in the future to get a raise. Or you might find that something else is happening in the company or department.
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
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The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
2
down vote
Have you ever received the highest performance rating but not gotten a
raise?
Yes, but the circumstances don't match yours. In my case, the company was in a tight financial situation, and nobody got raises that year. That fact was communicated publicly to everyone.
Does this go on in other companies?
Perhaps. My guess is that your manager and your manager's boss didn't agree on your review and/or raise.
That happens.
Good companies have processes in place where the details are resolved and disagreements ironed out before any discussion with the employee occurs. That
way, you can avoid the situation you find yourself in.
It could be just a case of a poorly executed process. Or it could be something else. And it doesn't really matter if this happens at other companies or not. What matters is what happened at your company and what you can do about it.
If you are friendly and close enough to your manager, a quiet, private conversation with him could enlighten you as to what actually happened.
You might find that there's something you personally need to do in the future to get a raise. Or you might find that something else is happening in the company or department.
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Have you ever received the highest performance rating but not gotten a
raise?
Yes, but the circumstances don't match yours. In my case, the company was in a tight financial situation, and nobody got raises that year. That fact was communicated publicly to everyone.
Does this go on in other companies?
Perhaps. My guess is that your manager and your manager's boss didn't agree on your review and/or raise.
That happens.
Good companies have processes in place where the details are resolved and disagreements ironed out before any discussion with the employee occurs. That
way, you can avoid the situation you find yourself in.
It could be just a case of a poorly executed process. Or it could be something else. And it doesn't really matter if this happens at other companies or not. What matters is what happened at your company and what you can do about it.
If you are friendly and close enough to your manager, a quiet, private conversation with him could enlighten you as to what actually happened.
You might find that there's something you personally need to do in the future to get a raise. Or you might find that something else is happening in the company or department.
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Have you ever received the highest performance rating but not gotten a
raise?
Yes, but the circumstances don't match yours. In my case, the company was in a tight financial situation, and nobody got raises that year. That fact was communicated publicly to everyone.
Does this go on in other companies?
Perhaps. My guess is that your manager and your manager's boss didn't agree on your review and/or raise.
That happens.
Good companies have processes in place where the details are resolved and disagreements ironed out before any discussion with the employee occurs. That
way, you can avoid the situation you find yourself in.
It could be just a case of a poorly executed process. Or it could be something else. And it doesn't really matter if this happens at other companies or not. What matters is what happened at your company and what you can do about it.
If you are friendly and close enough to your manager, a quiet, private conversation with him could enlighten you as to what actually happened.
You might find that there's something you personally need to do in the future to get a raise. Or you might find that something else is happening in the company or department.
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
Have you ever received the highest performance rating but not gotten a
raise?
Yes, but the circumstances don't match yours. In my case, the company was in a tight financial situation, and nobody got raises that year. That fact was communicated publicly to everyone.
Does this go on in other companies?
Perhaps. My guess is that your manager and your manager's boss didn't agree on your review and/or raise.
That happens.
Good companies have processes in place where the details are resolved and disagreements ironed out before any discussion with the employee occurs. That
way, you can avoid the situation you find yourself in.
It could be just a case of a poorly executed process. Or it could be something else. And it doesn't really matter if this happens at other companies or not. What matters is what happened at your company and what you can do about it.
If you are friendly and close enough to your manager, a quiet, private conversation with him could enlighten you as to what actually happened.
You might find that there's something you personally need to do in the future to get a raise. Or you might find that something else is happening in the company or department.
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
edited Jun 3 '16 at 18:35
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
answered Jun 3 '16 at 18:07
Joe Strazzere
222k101649913
222k101649913
The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
suggest improvements |Â
The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
The simple answer HR could have said is "no one is getting a raise" I practically handed them that exit, but they dithered and did not take it. ergo, I was treated differently than others. The only lever I have is my performance, and as far as the rating system is concerned - its stellar. It seems theres probably some unwritten things Im not getting.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:29
suggest improvements |Â
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This isn't really an answerable question here. More of a rant.
– Chris E
Jun 3 '16 at 17:53
1
I hope this isn't a common practice in the workforce and you get some resolution to this problem.
– user8365
Jun 3 '16 at 18:10
1
Unfortunately polling questions are off topic. I'd suggest trying chat chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3060/the-water-cooler
– Myles
Jun 3 '16 at 18:17
I see how it can be viewed and as polling or a rant, yet often Ive simply wondered what the rest of the working world is like, these are things Im reluctant to share in my workplace, and Ive simply sucked it up, maybe Im a dope for allowing this sort of treatment or its what everyone deals with.
– bikequus
Jun 3 '16 at 18:22
1
Yes that has happened at other companies. Did you get what you were looking for?
– Masked Man♦
Jun 4 '16 at 23:59