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I was terminated by a medical device company for falsifying test records on a production line. I did it so I could make my daily quota. I was under pressure and didn't openly discuss this with my supervisor. I've been unemployed for four months now. My performance was otherwise satisfactory. Would it be worth a shot at asking for my old job back, or did I betray their trust in me?
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I was terminated by a medical device company for falsifying test records on a production line. I did it so I could make my daily quota. I was under pressure and didn't openly discuss this with my supervisor. I've been unemployed for four months now. My performance was otherwise satisfactory. Would it be worth a shot at asking for my old job back, or did I betray their trust in me?
professionalism termination
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asked Apr 20 '16 at 19:34
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closed as off-topic by Chris E, mcknz, gnat, Jim G., The Wandering Dev Manager Apr 20 '16 at 23:58
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- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Chris E, gnat, Jim G., The Wandering Dev Manager
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It's always worth a shot, what do you have to lose? If i was the employer you would not be hired back as what you did was a definite betrayal and depending on what you were testing could have lead to big issues. But some people are more forgiving so give it a shot.
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I was terminated by a medical device company for falsifying test records on a production line. I did it so I could make my daily quota. I was under pressure and didn't openly discuss this with my supervisor. I've been unemployed for four months now. My performance was otherwise satisfactory. Would it be worth a shot at asking for my old job back, or did I betray their trust in me?
professionalism termination
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:55
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I was terminated by a medical device company for falsifying test records on a production line. I did it so I could make my daily quota. I was under pressure and didn't openly discuss this with my supervisor. I've been unemployed for four months now. My performance was otherwise satisfactory. Would it be worth a shot at asking for my old job back, or did I betray their trust in me?
professionalism termination
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:55
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asked Apr 20 '16 at 19:34
John David
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edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:55
mcknz
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edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:55
mcknz
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edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:55
mcknz
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asked Apr 20 '16 at 19:34
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asked Apr 20 '16 at 19:34
John David
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asked Apr 20 '16 at 19:34
John David
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closed as off-topic by Chris E, mcknz, gnat, Jim G., The Wandering Dev Manager Apr 20 '16 at 23:58
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Chris E, gnat, Jim G., The Wandering Dev Manager
closed as off-topic by Chris E, mcknz, gnat, Jim G., The Wandering Dev Manager Apr 20 '16 at 23:58
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Chris E, gnat, Jim G., The Wandering Dev Manager
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It's always worth a shot, what do you have to lose? If i was the employer you would not be hired back as what you did was a definite betrayal and depending on what you were testing could have lead to big issues. But some people are more forgiving so give it a shot.
– Jacobr365
Apr 20 '16 at 19:38
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It's always worth a shot, what do you have to lose? If i was the employer you would not be hired back as what you did was a definite betrayal and depending on what you were testing could have lead to big issues. But some people are more forgiving so give it a shot.
– Jacobr365
Apr 20 '16 at 19:38
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It's always worth a shot, what do you have to lose? If i was the employer you would not be hired back as what you did was a definite betrayal and depending on what you were testing could have lead to big issues. But some people are more forgiving so give it a shot.
– Jacobr365
Apr 20 '16 at 19:38
It's always worth a shot, what do you have to lose? If i was the employer you would not be hired back as what you did was a definite betrayal and depending on what you were testing could have lead to big issues. But some people are more forgiving so give it a shot.
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Apr 20 '16 at 19:38
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I want you to understand the severity of what you did. Medical devices with falsified test records could be defective and thus kill/injure people. The company has a responsibility make sure their devices don't kill/injure people. I would imagine you also cost them a lot of money, as they would likely have notified the current owners of these devices that they needed to be reinspected so as to avoid criminal charges if the device killed or injured people due to a known falsified record. There is no possible way that you are getting rehired.
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Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
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Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
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You could try, but don't be surprised if you get a hard "No" from them.
You broke their trust in you. That's one of the worst things you could do. If they DO give you a second chance, you have a mountain to climb just to get back to where you were.
Next time, talk to your supervisor about your concerns and accept the repercussions of not meeting your quota.
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I want you to understand the severity of what you did. Medical devices with falsified test records could be defective and thus kill/injure people. The company has a responsibility make sure their devices don't kill/injure people. I would imagine you also cost them a lot of money, as they would likely have notified the current owners of these devices that they needed to be reinspected so as to avoid criminal charges if the device killed or injured people due to a known falsified record. There is no possible way that you are getting rehired.
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
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answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
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Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
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Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
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I want you to understand the severity of what you did. Medical devices with falsified test records could be defective and thus kill/injure people. The company has a responsibility make sure their devices don't kill/injure people. I would imagine you also cost them a lot of money, as they would likely have notified the current owners of these devices that they needed to be reinspected so as to avoid criminal charges if the device killed or injured people due to a known falsified record. There is no possible way that you are getting rehired.
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
mcknz
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answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
HLGEM
133k25226489
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Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
4
Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
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up vote
15
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I want you to understand the severity of what you did. Medical devices with falsified test records could be defective and thus kill/injure people. The company has a responsibility make sure their devices don't kill/injure people. I would imagine you also cost them a lot of money, as they would likely have notified the current owners of these devices that they needed to be reinspected so as to avoid criminal charges if the device killed or injured people due to a known falsified record. There is no possible way that you are getting rehired.
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
mcknz
15.6k55468
answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
HLGEM
133k25226489
I want you to understand the severity of what you did. Medical devices with falsified test records could be defective and thus kill/injure people. The company has a responsibility make sure their devices don't kill/injure people. I would imagine you also cost them a lot of money, as they would likely have notified the current owners of these devices that they needed to be reinspected so as to avoid criminal charges if the device killed or injured people due to a known falsified record. There is no possible way that you are getting rehired.
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
mcknz
15.6k55468
answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
HLGEM
133k25226489
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
mcknz
15.6k55468
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
mcknz
15.6k55468
edited Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
mcknz
15.6k55468
15.6k55468
answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
HLGEM
133k25226489
answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
HLGEM
133k25226489
answered Apr 20 '16 at 20:54
HLGEM
133k25226489
133k25226489
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Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
4
Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
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show 2 more comments
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Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
4
Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
4
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Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
Normally I would suggest that this answer is a little bit absolute and harsh. But you're absolutely correct. Some things transcend the normal cordiality one would expect. I would add that for them to rehire him could cause significant liability for rehiring someone who they know falsifies records.
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 20:58
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
downvoted because although probably an accurate statement of fact, this is not really an answer to the OP's question.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:19
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
This is spot on. To the general question, you might be able to get your job back if you show contrition, but for this particular case, absolutely not. Just wait until someone is impacted by a faulty device that OP passed and the company has to go to court.
– cdkMoose
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
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Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
Actually he did answer it. OP asked if it would be worth a shot or did he betray trust. "There's no possible way that you are getting rehired" is that answer and he explains exactly how that trust was betrayed and why. It's a good answer, IMHO
– Chris E
Apr 20 '16 at 21:24
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
@ChristopherEstep good point, DV removed.
– mcknz
Apr 20 '16 at 21:56
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You could try, but don't be surprised if you get a hard "No" from them.
You broke their trust in you. That's one of the worst things you could do. If they DO give you a second chance, you have a mountain to climb just to get back to where you were.
Next time, talk to your supervisor about your concerns and accept the repercussions of not meeting your quota.
answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
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You could try, but don't be surprised if you get a hard "No" from them.
You broke their trust in you. That's one of the worst things you could do. If they DO give you a second chance, you have a mountain to climb just to get back to where you were.
Next time, talk to your supervisor about your concerns and accept the repercussions of not meeting your quota.
answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
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up vote
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down vote
up vote
6
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You could try, but don't be surprised if you get a hard "No" from them.
You broke their trust in you. That's one of the worst things you could do. If they DO give you a second chance, you have a mountain to climb just to get back to where you were.
Next time, talk to your supervisor about your concerns and accept the repercussions of not meeting your quota.
answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
1,612716
You could try, but don't be surprised if you get a hard "No" from them.
You broke their trust in you. That's one of the worst things you could do. If they DO give you a second chance, you have a mountain to climb just to get back to where you were.
Next time, talk to your supervisor about your concerns and accept the repercussions of not meeting your quota.
answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
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answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
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answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
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answered Apr 20 '16 at 19:37
Ethan The Brave
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It's always worth a shot, what do you have to lose? If i was the employer you would not be hired back as what you did was a definite betrayal and depending on what you were testing could have lead to big issues. But some people are more forgiving so give it a shot.
– Jacobr365
Apr 20 '16 at 19:38