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Planet with intense seasons
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What kind of planetary conditions would be required to make a place with really intense winters and summers? Is it even possible? For example on the poles they can go with out the sun for half a year in the winter but even in the summer the angle of the sun is comparable to evening near the equator, so it never gets warm
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What kind of planetary conditions would be required to make a place with really intense winters and summers? Is it even possible? For example on the poles they can go with out the sun for half a year in the winter but even in the summer the angle of the sun is comparable to evening near the equator, so it never gets warm
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What do you mean by "really intense"? Ranging from +40C in the summer to -40C in the winter (104F to -40F)? That's definitely possible, since it exists on earth (it's a fairly typical year in Minnesota). Or how much more extreme are you looking for?
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What do you mean by "really intense"? Ranging from +40C in the summer to -40C in the winter (104F to -40F)? That's definitely possible, since it exists on earth (it's a fairly typical year in Minnesota). Or how much more extreme are you looking for?
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What do you mean by "really intense"? Ranging from +40C in the summer to -40C in the winter (104F to -40F)? That's definitely possible, since it exists on earth (it's a fairly typical year in Minnesota). Or how much more extreme are you looking for?
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What do you mean by "really intense"? Ranging from +40C in the summer to -40C in the winter (104F to -40F)? That's definitely possible, since it exists on earth (it's a fairly typical year in Minnesota). Or how much more extreme are you looking for?
– Dave Sherohman
3 hours ago
What do you mean by "really intense"? Ranging from +40C in the summer to -40C in the winter (104F to -40F)? That's definitely possible, since it exists on earth (it's a fairly typical year in Minnesota). Or how much more extreme are you looking for?
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As you might know: the seasons are related to the earths not linear axis.
The earth 'flies' like that around the sun:
The effect of the axial tilt means more and 'stronger' sunlight for summer the summer season, while less for winter season.
If you shift the axis much more, seasons will get stronger and with that more area has the polar night and day.
Hope it helps :)
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True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
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The answer by Jannis explains that increasing the axial tilt of your planet will do this.
The other thing that will help is a large continent at mid-latitudes. "Large" so that the middle is a long way from the moderating effect of the oceans (water heats up and cools down much more slowly than rock). If it is too near the equator there isn't much variation in sunlight over the year; if it too near the pole there isn't enough sunlight in summer to get it hot.
Not very coincidentally, Minnesota (with a range of ±40 C) as pointed out by Dave Sherohman is right in the middle of the North American continent at about 46â°N.
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Nothing says the orbit of your planet has to be as close to circular as the Earth's. All orbits are elliptical, with the sun at one of the two foci. (Even a circle is an ellipse, it just has both foci in the same space).
The eccentricity of the ellipse is a measure between 0 and 1 of how stretched out it is; if it is very small the orbit is nearly circular. Earth's eccentricity is 0.02.
Regardless of any axial tilt; if the orbit of your planet is stretched enough, it will be close to its sun for part of the year (closest at perihelion) and far from its sun for part of the year (furthest at aphelion), and these can correspond to a hot summer and cold winter, respectively. On Earth, this is a variation of just 3%, but it can be made longer.
No elliptical orbit is off limits; Haley's comet is in orbit around the Sun, and it's distance varies from 88 million km to 5.2 Billion kilometers; i.e. inside the orbit of Venus (108 million km) to outside the orbit of Neptune (4.5 billion km); with corresponding super-heating and deep freeze.
So just a very little bit more eccentricity (stretching) of your orbit can do this, it doesn't have to be extreme. I don't have the formula for computing the solar energy reaching the planet (should follow a square law I think) or for translating that into average temperatures; but that is where I would take the research next. Perhaps other readers know this off the top of their head. I think this is the least exotic method of increasing the extremes between summer and winter, just make the planet about 10% further away from its sun in winter than it is in summer.
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3 Answers
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As you might know: the seasons are related to the earths not linear axis.
The earth 'flies' like that around the sun:
The effect of the axial tilt means more and 'stronger' sunlight for summer the summer season, while less for winter season.
If you shift the axis much more, seasons will get stronger and with that more area has the polar night and day.
Hope it helps :)
answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
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True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
– Mołot
2 hours ago
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up vote
3
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As you might know: the seasons are related to the earths not linear axis.
The earth 'flies' like that around the sun:
The effect of the axial tilt means more and 'stronger' sunlight for summer the summer season, while less for winter season.
If you shift the axis much more, seasons will get stronger and with that more area has the polar night and day.
Hope it helps :)
answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
40010
True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
– Mołot
2 hours ago
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up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
As you might know: the seasons are related to the earths not linear axis.
The earth 'flies' like that around the sun:
The effect of the axial tilt means more and 'stronger' sunlight for summer the summer season, while less for winter season.
If you shift the axis much more, seasons will get stronger and with that more area has the polar night and day.
Hope it helps :)
answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
40010
As you might know: the seasons are related to the earths not linear axis.
The earth 'flies' like that around the sun:
The effect of the axial tilt means more and 'stronger' sunlight for summer the summer season, while less for winter season.
If you shift the axis much more, seasons will get stronger and with that more area has the polar night and day.
Hope it helps :)
answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
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answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
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answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
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answered 3 hours ago
Jannis
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True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
– Mołot
2 hours ago
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True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
– Mołot
2 hours ago
True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
– Mołot
2 hours ago
True, but that's only a part of itma lot depends on landmass distribution.
– Mołot
2 hours ago
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up vote
3
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The answer by Jannis explains that increasing the axial tilt of your planet will do this.
The other thing that will help is a large continent at mid-latitudes. "Large" so that the middle is a long way from the moderating effect of the oceans (water heats up and cools down much more slowly than rock). If it is too near the equator there isn't much variation in sunlight over the year; if it too near the pole there isn't enough sunlight in summer to get it hot.
Not very coincidentally, Minnesota (with a range of ±40 C) as pointed out by Dave Sherohman is right in the middle of the North American continent at about 46â°N.
answered 1 hour ago
Martin Bonner
18016
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up vote
3
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The answer by Jannis explains that increasing the axial tilt of your planet will do this.
The other thing that will help is a large continent at mid-latitudes. "Large" so that the middle is a long way from the moderating effect of the oceans (water heats up and cools down much more slowly than rock). If it is too near the equator there isn't much variation in sunlight over the year; if it too near the pole there isn't enough sunlight in summer to get it hot.
Not very coincidentally, Minnesota (with a range of ±40 C) as pointed out by Dave Sherohman is right in the middle of the North American continent at about 46â°N.
answered 1 hour ago
Martin Bonner
18016
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
The answer by Jannis explains that increasing the axial tilt of your planet will do this.
The other thing that will help is a large continent at mid-latitudes. "Large" so that the middle is a long way from the moderating effect of the oceans (water heats up and cools down much more slowly than rock). If it is too near the equator there isn't much variation in sunlight over the year; if it too near the pole there isn't enough sunlight in summer to get it hot.
Not very coincidentally, Minnesota (with a range of ±40 C) as pointed out by Dave Sherohman is right in the middle of the North American continent at about 46â°N.
answered 1 hour ago
Martin Bonner
18016
The answer by Jannis explains that increasing the axial tilt of your planet will do this.
The other thing that will help is a large continent at mid-latitudes. "Large" so that the middle is a long way from the moderating effect of the oceans (water heats up and cools down much more slowly than rock). If it is too near the equator there isn't much variation in sunlight over the year; if it too near the pole there isn't enough sunlight in summer to get it hot.
Not very coincidentally, Minnesota (with a range of ±40 C) as pointed out by Dave Sherohman is right in the middle of the North American continent at about 46â°N.
answered 1 hour ago
Martin Bonner
18016
answered 1 hour ago
Martin Bonner
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Martin Bonner
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answered 1 hour ago
Martin Bonner
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Nothing says the orbit of your planet has to be as close to circular as the Earth's. All orbits are elliptical, with the sun at one of the two foci. (Even a circle is an ellipse, it just has both foci in the same space).
The eccentricity of the ellipse is a measure between 0 and 1 of how stretched out it is; if it is very small the orbit is nearly circular. Earth's eccentricity is 0.02.
Regardless of any axial tilt; if the orbit of your planet is stretched enough, it will be close to its sun for part of the year (closest at perihelion) and far from its sun for part of the year (furthest at aphelion), and these can correspond to a hot summer and cold winter, respectively. On Earth, this is a variation of just 3%, but it can be made longer.
No elliptical orbit is off limits; Haley's comet is in orbit around the Sun, and it's distance varies from 88 million km to 5.2 Billion kilometers; i.e. inside the orbit of Venus (108 million km) to outside the orbit of Neptune (4.5 billion km); with corresponding super-heating and deep freeze.
So just a very little bit more eccentricity (stretching) of your orbit can do this, it doesn't have to be extreme. I don't have the formula for computing the solar energy reaching the planet (should follow a square law I think) or for translating that into average temperatures; but that is where I would take the research next. Perhaps other readers know this off the top of their head. I think this is the least exotic method of increasing the extremes between summer and winter, just make the planet about 10% further away from its sun in winter than it is in summer.
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Nothing says the orbit of your planet has to be as close to circular as the Earth's. All orbits are elliptical, with the sun at one of the two foci. (Even a circle is an ellipse, it just has both foci in the same space).
The eccentricity of the ellipse is a measure between 0 and 1 of how stretched out it is; if it is very small the orbit is nearly circular. Earth's eccentricity is 0.02.
Regardless of any axial tilt; if the orbit of your planet is stretched enough, it will be close to its sun for part of the year (closest at perihelion) and far from its sun for part of the year (furthest at aphelion), and these can correspond to a hot summer and cold winter, respectively. On Earth, this is a variation of just 3%, but it can be made longer.
No elliptical orbit is off limits; Haley's comet is in orbit around the Sun, and it's distance varies from 88 million km to 5.2 Billion kilometers; i.e. inside the orbit of Venus (108 million km) to outside the orbit of Neptune (4.5 billion km); with corresponding super-heating and deep freeze.
So just a very little bit more eccentricity (stretching) of your orbit can do this, it doesn't have to be extreme. I don't have the formula for computing the solar energy reaching the planet (should follow a square law I think) or for translating that into average temperatures; but that is where I would take the research next. Perhaps other readers know this off the top of their head. I think this is the least exotic method of increasing the extremes between summer and winter, just make the planet about 10% further away from its sun in winter than it is in summer.
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Nothing says the orbit of your planet has to be as close to circular as the Earth's. All orbits are elliptical, with the sun at one of the two foci. (Even a circle is an ellipse, it just has both foci in the same space).
The eccentricity of the ellipse is a measure between 0 and 1 of how stretched out it is; if it is very small the orbit is nearly circular. Earth's eccentricity is 0.02.
Regardless of any axial tilt; if the orbit of your planet is stretched enough, it will be close to its sun for part of the year (closest at perihelion) and far from its sun for part of the year (furthest at aphelion), and these can correspond to a hot summer and cold winter, respectively. On Earth, this is a variation of just 3%, but it can be made longer.
No elliptical orbit is off limits; Haley's comet is in orbit around the Sun, and it's distance varies from 88 million km to 5.2 Billion kilometers; i.e. inside the orbit of Venus (108 million km) to outside the orbit of Neptune (4.5 billion km); with corresponding super-heating and deep freeze.
So just a very little bit more eccentricity (stretching) of your orbit can do this, it doesn't have to be extreme. I don't have the formula for computing the solar energy reaching the planet (should follow a square law I think) or for translating that into average temperatures; but that is where I would take the research next. Perhaps other readers know this off the top of their head. I think this is the least exotic method of increasing the extremes between summer and winter, just make the planet about 10% further away from its sun in winter than it is in summer.
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Nothing says the orbit of your planet has to be as close to circular as the Earth's. All orbits are elliptical, with the sun at one of the two foci. (Even a circle is an ellipse, it just has both foci in the same space).
The eccentricity of the ellipse is a measure between 0 and 1 of how stretched out it is; if it is very small the orbit is nearly circular. Earth's eccentricity is 0.02.
Regardless of any axial tilt; if the orbit of your planet is stretched enough, it will be close to its sun for part of the year (closest at perihelion) and far from its sun for part of the year (furthest at aphelion), and these can correspond to a hot summer and cold winter, respectively. On Earth, this is a variation of just 3%, but it can be made longer.
No elliptical orbit is off limits; Haley's comet is in orbit around the Sun, and it's distance varies from 88 million km to 5.2 Billion kilometers; i.e. inside the orbit of Venus (108 million km) to outside the orbit of Neptune (4.5 billion km); with corresponding super-heating and deep freeze.
So just a very little bit more eccentricity (stretching) of your orbit can do this, it doesn't have to be extreme. I don't have the formula for computing the solar energy reaching the planet (should follow a square law I think) or for translating that into average temperatures; but that is where I would take the research next. Perhaps other readers know this off the top of their head. I think this is the least exotic method of increasing the extremes between summer and winter, just make the planet about 10% further away from its sun in winter than it is in summer.
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What do you mean by "really intense"? Ranging from +40C in the summer to -40C in the winter (104F to -40F)? That's definitely possible, since it exists on earth (it's a fairly typical year in Minnesota). Or how much more extreme are you looking for?
– Dave Sherohman
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