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Is There an Indication in Protocol Stack showing that the End Host is Mobile?
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Suppose you are using the Web from your mobile phone. Is there any indication in the internet backbone, when you look at the traffic that shows that the end host is a mobile device?
I am sure there are many such indicators in the application layer, but I am more interested in answers about IP protocol. I assume their IPs frequently change as they move, so they may be using reserved IPs or anything that I cannot think of.
Thank you for your help
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Suppose you are using the Web from your mobile phone. Is there any indication in the internet backbone, when you look at the traffic that shows that the end host is a mobile device?
I am sure there are many such indicators in the application layer, but I am more interested in answers about IP protocol. I assume their IPs frequently change as they move, so they may be using reserved IPs or anything that I cannot think of.
Thank you for your help
ip protocol-theory layer3 mobile
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
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up vote
1
down vote
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up vote
1
down vote
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Suppose you are using the Web from your mobile phone. Is there any indication in the internet backbone, when you look at the traffic that shows that the end host is a mobile device?
I am sure there are many such indicators in the application layer, but I am more interested in answers about IP protocol. I assume their IPs frequently change as they move, so they may be using reserved IPs or anything that I cannot think of.
Thank you for your help
ip protocol-theory layer3 mobile
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
asked 1 hour ago
Ninja Bug
1885
Suppose you are using the Web from your mobile phone. Is there any indication in the internet backbone, when you look at the traffic that shows that the end host is a mobile device?
I am sure there are many such indicators in the application layer, but I am more interested in answers about IP protocol. I assume their IPs frequently change as they move, so they may be using reserved IPs or anything that I cannot think of.
Thank you for your help
ip protocol-theory layer3 mobile
ip protocol-theory layer3 mobile
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
asked 1 hour ago
Ninja Bug
1885
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
asked 1 hour ago
Ninja Bug
1885
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
edited 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
58.5k1056102
asked 1 hour ago
Ninja Bug
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Ninja Bug
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An IP address is an IP address, and there is nothing in IP that distinguishes what you are looking for. There is the IANA IPv4 Special-Purpose Address Registry that explains all the special-purpose IPv4 address ranges, and IANA IPv6 Special-Purpose Address Registry for IPv6. IP really doesn't care about what the host is, only that it is addressed in order to be able to route packets between networks.
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
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I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
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"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
An IP address is an IP address, and there is nothing in IP that distinguishes what you are looking for. There is the IANA IPv4 Special-Purpose Address Registry that explains all the special-purpose IPv4 address ranges, and IANA IPv6 Special-Purpose Address Registry for IPv6. IP really doesn't care about what the host is, only that it is addressed in order to be able to route packets between networks.
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
2
"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
An IP address is an IP address, and there is nothing in IP that distinguishes what you are looking for. There is the IANA IPv4 Special-Purpose Address Registry that explains all the special-purpose IPv4 address ranges, and IANA IPv6 Special-Purpose Address Registry for IPv6. IP really doesn't care about what the host is, only that it is addressed in order to be able to route packets between networks.
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
2
"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
An IP address is an IP address, and there is nothing in IP that distinguishes what you are looking for. There is the IANA IPv4 Special-Purpose Address Registry that explains all the special-purpose IPv4 address ranges, and IANA IPv6 Special-Purpose Address Registry for IPv6. IP really doesn't care about what the host is, only that it is addressed in order to be able to route packets between networks.
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
An IP address is an IP address, and there is nothing in IP that distinguishes what you are looking for. There is the IANA IPv4 Special-Purpose Address Registry that explains all the special-purpose IPv4 address ranges, and IANA IPv6 Special-Purpose Address Registry for IPv6. IP really doesn't care about what the host is, only that it is addressed in order to be able to route packets between networks.
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
edited 43 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
answered 1 hour ago
Ron Maupin♦
58.5k1056102
58.5k1056102
I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
2
"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
2
"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device. Even the application developer should care about it. There must be something indicating this. Is it just the application layer messages? Nothing in TCP or TLS handshake as well?
– Ninja Bug
1 hour ago
2
2
"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
"I am sure that you somehow need to know the end-host is a mobile device." Why do you think that? Routing knows how to forward packets to the network on which the device is addressed, so there is nothing in IP that needs to know what type of device it is. In fact, it would be a corner case for one host to need to know what type another host is. For example, a web browser and web server do not need to know what type of device the other is, they just communicate via HTML.
– Ron Maupin♦
1 hour ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
@NinjaBug, I think you may be missing the reason for protocols. Network protocols are the rules by which devices communicate. By following the rules of communication, it doesn't matter what type of device is communicating with what type of device, only that the devices follow the rules. Yes, it matters to an application developer for what type of device an application is created, but it really doesn't matter what device is on the other end of the communication if both devices follow the rules and use standard protocols.
– Ron Maupin♦
44 mins ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
What about Mobile IP? You can trace it in Internet backbone if you are a ISP right? They basically see that you are a mobile host in this case?
– Ninja Bug
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
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