Why does my bottle of Kosher grape juice say that it's 'for sacramental purposes only'?

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I recently noticed that the bottle of Kedem Kosher grape juice that I purchased has a notice on the label which reads 'FOR SACRAMENTAL PURPOSES ONLY'.





I assume this means that it's being sold to be used only for Kiddush, Havdalah or the Four Cups at the Seder.



Why is it in the company's interests to sell it in this way? Does it confer some legal, regulatory or tax advantage?



[Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?]







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    I recommend you ask the manufacturer.
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    Aug 9 at 14:10






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    @JoelK As an aside, if you’re interested in privacy, you might want to post a different picture that doesn’t have that receipt in it, which kinda gives away your general location.
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    Aug 9 at 15:21






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    Seems to me that this question is not relevant to the site as it is more relevant to non-Jewish tax law than Judaism. There may be a Judaic interest in the "Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?"
    – Avrohom Yitzchok
    Aug 9 at 16:56






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    @AvrohomYitzchok The question is about words about religion on a Jewish product's label, not about tax law, even if the answer is about tax law.
    – Isaac Moses♦
    Aug 9 at 17:57






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    I second @AvrohomYitzchok’s comment. The question is Jewish-motivated, but there’s no reason necessarily to assume that a Jew using this site would know the answer. If the question were the tangential one and asking if a product marketed for sacramental purposes was used for other purposes, then I would say this is fine, but at the moment, I’m voting to close.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 22:50














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I recently noticed that the bottle of Kedem Kosher grape juice that I purchased has a notice on the label which reads 'FOR SACRAMENTAL PURPOSES ONLY'.





I assume this means that it's being sold to be used only for Kiddush, Havdalah or the Four Cups at the Seder.



Why is it in the company's interests to sell it in this way? Does it confer some legal, regulatory or tax advantage?



[Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?]







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    I recommend you ask the manufacturer.
    – msh210♦
    Aug 9 at 14:10






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    @JoelK As an aside, if you’re interested in privacy, you might want to post a different picture that doesn’t have that receipt in it, which kinda gives away your general location.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 15:21






  • 1




    Seems to me that this question is not relevant to the site as it is more relevant to non-Jewish tax law than Judaism. There may be a Judaic interest in the "Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?"
    – Avrohom Yitzchok
    Aug 9 at 16:56






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    @AvrohomYitzchok The question is about words about religion on a Jewish product's label, not about tax law, even if the answer is about tax law.
    – Isaac Moses♦
    Aug 9 at 17:57






  • 1




    I second @AvrohomYitzchok’s comment. The question is Jewish-motivated, but there’s no reason necessarily to assume that a Jew using this site would know the answer. If the question were the tangential one and asking if a product marketed for sacramental purposes was used for other purposes, then I would say this is fine, but at the moment, I’m voting to close.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 22:50












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I recently noticed that the bottle of Kedem Kosher grape juice that I purchased has a notice on the label which reads 'FOR SACRAMENTAL PURPOSES ONLY'.





I assume this means that it's being sold to be used only for Kiddush, Havdalah or the Four Cups at the Seder.



Why is it in the company's interests to sell it in this way? Does it confer some legal, regulatory or tax advantage?



[Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?]







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I recently noticed that the bottle of Kedem Kosher grape juice that I purchased has a notice on the label which reads 'FOR SACRAMENTAL PURPOSES ONLY'.





I assume this means that it's being sold to be used only for Kiddush, Havdalah or the Four Cups at the Seder.



Why is it in the company's interests to sell it in this way? Does it confer some legal, regulatory or tax advantage?



[Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?]









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    I recommend you ask the manufacturer.
    – msh210♦
    Aug 9 at 14:10






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    @JoelK As an aside, if you’re interested in privacy, you might want to post a different picture that doesn’t have that receipt in it, which kinda gives away your general location.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 15:21






  • 1




    Seems to me that this question is not relevant to the site as it is more relevant to non-Jewish tax law than Judaism. There may be a Judaic interest in the "Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?"
    – Avrohom Yitzchok
    Aug 9 at 16:56






  • 5




    @AvrohomYitzchok The question is about words about religion on a Jewish product's label, not about tax law, even if the answer is about tax law.
    – Isaac Moses♦
    Aug 9 at 17:57






  • 1




    I second @AvrohomYitzchok’s comment. The question is Jewish-motivated, but there’s no reason necessarily to assume that a Jew using this site would know the answer. If the question were the tangential one and asking if a product marketed for sacramental purposes was used for other purposes, then I would say this is fine, but at the moment, I’m voting to close.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 22:50












  • 1




    I recommend you ask the manufacturer.
    – msh210♦
    Aug 9 at 14:10






  • 5




    @JoelK As an aside, if you’re interested in privacy, you might want to post a different picture that doesn’t have that receipt in it, which kinda gives away your general location.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 15:21






  • 1




    Seems to me that this question is not relevant to the site as it is more relevant to non-Jewish tax law than Judaism. There may be a Judaic interest in the "Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?"
    – Avrohom Yitzchok
    Aug 9 at 16:56






  • 5




    @AvrohomYitzchok The question is about words about religion on a Jewish product's label, not about tax law, even if the answer is about tax law.
    – Isaac Moses♦
    Aug 9 at 17:57






  • 1




    I second @AvrohomYitzchok’s comment. The question is Jewish-motivated, but there’s no reason necessarily to assume that a Jew using this site would know the answer. If the question were the tangential one and asking if a product marketed for sacramental purposes was used for other purposes, then I would say this is fine, but at the moment, I’m voting to close.
    – DonielF
    Aug 9 at 22:50







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1




I recommend you ask the manufacturer.
– msh210♦
Aug 9 at 14:10




I recommend you ask the manufacturer.
– msh210♦
Aug 9 at 14:10




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5




@JoelK As an aside, if you’re interested in privacy, you might want to post a different picture that doesn’t have that receipt in it, which kinda gives away your general location.
– DonielF
Aug 9 at 15:21




@JoelK As an aside, if you’re interested in privacy, you might want to post a different picture that doesn’t have that receipt in it, which kinda gives away your general location.
– DonielF
Aug 9 at 15:21




1




1




Seems to me that this question is not relevant to the site as it is more relevant to non-Jewish tax law than Judaism. There may be a Judaic interest in the "Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?"
– Avrohom Yitzchok
Aug 9 at 16:56




Seems to me that this question is not relevant to the site as it is more relevant to non-Jewish tax law than Judaism. There may be a Judaic interest in the "Tangential bonus question: What happens if I want to drink it for other, non-sacramental purposes?"
– Avrohom Yitzchok
Aug 9 at 16:56




5




5




@AvrohomYitzchok The question is about words about religion on a Jewish product's label, not about tax law, even if the answer is about tax law.
– Isaac Moses♦
Aug 9 at 17:57




@AvrohomYitzchok The question is about words about religion on a Jewish product's label, not about tax law, even if the answer is about tax law.
– Isaac Moses♦
Aug 9 at 17:57




1




1




I second @AvrohomYitzchok’s comment. The question is Jewish-motivated, but there’s no reason necessarily to assume that a Jew using this site would know the answer. If the question were the tangential one and asking if a product marketed for sacramental purposes was used for other purposes, then I would say this is fine, but at the moment, I’m voting to close.
– DonielF
Aug 9 at 22:50




I second @AvrohomYitzchok’s comment. The question is Jewish-motivated, but there’s no reason necessarily to assume that a Jew using this site would know the answer. If the question were the tangential one and asking if a product marketed for sacramental purposes was used for other purposes, then I would say this is fine, but at the moment, I’m voting to close.
– DonielF
Aug 9 at 22:50










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The reason is to exempt it from Value Added Tax.



See the regulation at this www.gov.uk site.



The important bit says:




4.7 Food and drink for religious and sacramental use



The existence of religious laws requiring certain foods to be prepared
in particular ways (for example, kosher or halal) doesn’t affect the
liability of the final product, which is judged according to the
normal VAT rules. However, the following liabilities have been agreed
in respect of some specialised food products, which have exclusively
sacramental use:



communion wafers used in the celebration of the Christian Communion,
Mass or Eucharist are zero rated



unfermented communion wine is also zero rated (but fermented communion
wine is standard rated)



unfermented grape juice for use at the Jewish seder or kaddish
(sic!)is zero rated provided it is marked prominently in English
‘for sacramental use only’




"Zero-rated" means that there is a zero rate of Value Added Tax.






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  • pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
    – heshy
    Aug 9 at 18:47






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    The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
    – CJ Dennis
    Aug 10 at 0:13







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    @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
    – SAH
    Aug 14 at 7:20










  • Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
    – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
    Aug 16 at 10:50










  • @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
    – SAH
    Aug 17 at 21:39

















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Sacrimental purposes exempts from tax in many places like New York see here: https://tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/abt/exempt_sales_and_uses.htm






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  • I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
    – DanF
    Aug 9 at 21:25

















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I'm not good enough at reading legislative mumbo-jumbo to completely understand the particulars of the section in question, but New York state has a law (the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law) which specifies certain restrictions on alcoholic beverages. Section 6 in particular deals with wine.



I don't know for sure that this law is the reason Kedem puts this disclaimer on the bottles, but it seems plausible to me that they do it just to avoid the possibility of legal mix-ups even though it may not be strictly necessary for non-alcoholic beverages. There is a section in the law (76(10)) which makes an exception to some of the restrictions for sacramental purposes.



Someone who is better at reading these kinds of things may be able to clarify the law better than I can.






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    up vote
    30
    down vote



    accepted










    The reason is to exempt it from Value Added Tax.



    See the regulation at this www.gov.uk site.



    The important bit says:




    4.7 Food and drink for religious and sacramental use



    The existence of religious laws requiring certain foods to be prepared
    in particular ways (for example, kosher or halal) doesn’t affect the
    liability of the final product, which is judged according to the
    normal VAT rules. However, the following liabilities have been agreed
    in respect of some specialised food products, which have exclusively
    sacramental use:



    communion wafers used in the celebration of the Christian Communion,
    Mass or Eucharist are zero rated



    unfermented communion wine is also zero rated (but fermented communion
    wine is standard rated)



    unfermented grape juice for use at the Jewish seder or kaddish
    (sic!)is zero rated provided it is marked prominently in English
    ‘for sacramental use only’




    "Zero-rated" means that there is a zero rate of Value Added Tax.






    share|improve this answer






















    • pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
      – heshy
      Aug 9 at 18:47






    • 2




      The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
      – CJ Dennis
      Aug 10 at 0:13







    • 1




      @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
      – SAH
      Aug 14 at 7:20










    • Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
      – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
      Aug 16 at 10:50










    • @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
      – SAH
      Aug 17 at 21:39














    up vote
    30
    down vote



    accepted










    The reason is to exempt it from Value Added Tax.



    See the regulation at this www.gov.uk site.



    The important bit says:




    4.7 Food and drink for religious and sacramental use



    The existence of religious laws requiring certain foods to be prepared
    in particular ways (for example, kosher or halal) doesn’t affect the
    liability of the final product, which is judged according to the
    normal VAT rules. However, the following liabilities have been agreed
    in respect of some specialised food products, which have exclusively
    sacramental use:



    communion wafers used in the celebration of the Christian Communion,
    Mass or Eucharist are zero rated



    unfermented communion wine is also zero rated (but fermented communion
    wine is standard rated)



    unfermented grape juice for use at the Jewish seder or kaddish
    (sic!)is zero rated provided it is marked prominently in English
    ‘for sacramental use only’




    "Zero-rated" means that there is a zero rate of Value Added Tax.






    share|improve this answer






















    • pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
      – heshy
      Aug 9 at 18:47






    • 2




      The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
      – CJ Dennis
      Aug 10 at 0:13







    • 1




      @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
      – SAH
      Aug 14 at 7:20










    • Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
      – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
      Aug 16 at 10:50










    • @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
      – SAH
      Aug 17 at 21:39












    up vote
    30
    down vote



    accepted







    up vote
    30
    down vote



    accepted






    The reason is to exempt it from Value Added Tax.



    See the regulation at this www.gov.uk site.



    The important bit says:




    4.7 Food and drink for religious and sacramental use



    The existence of religious laws requiring certain foods to be prepared
    in particular ways (for example, kosher or halal) doesn’t affect the
    liability of the final product, which is judged according to the
    normal VAT rules. However, the following liabilities have been agreed
    in respect of some specialised food products, which have exclusively
    sacramental use:



    communion wafers used in the celebration of the Christian Communion,
    Mass or Eucharist are zero rated



    unfermented communion wine is also zero rated (but fermented communion
    wine is standard rated)



    unfermented grape juice for use at the Jewish seder or kaddish
    (sic!)is zero rated provided it is marked prominently in English
    ‘for sacramental use only’




    "Zero-rated" means that there is a zero rate of Value Added Tax.






    share|improve this answer














    The reason is to exempt it from Value Added Tax.



    See the regulation at this www.gov.uk site.



    The important bit says:




    4.7 Food and drink for religious and sacramental use



    The existence of religious laws requiring certain foods to be prepared
    in particular ways (for example, kosher or halal) doesn’t affect the
    liability of the final product, which is judged according to the
    normal VAT rules. However, the following liabilities have been agreed
    in respect of some specialised food products, which have exclusively
    sacramental use:



    communion wafers used in the celebration of the Christian Communion,
    Mass or Eucharist are zero rated



    unfermented communion wine is also zero rated (but fermented communion
    wine is standard rated)



    unfermented grape juice for use at the Jewish seder or kaddish
    (sic!)is zero rated provided it is marked prominently in English
    ‘for sacramental use only’




    "Zero-rated" means that there is a zero rate of Value Added Tax.







    share|improve this answer














    share|improve this answer



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    Avrohom Yitzchok

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    • pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
      – heshy
      Aug 9 at 18:47






    • 2




      The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
      – CJ Dennis
      Aug 10 at 0:13







    • 1




      @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
      – SAH
      Aug 14 at 7:20










    • Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
      – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
      Aug 16 at 10:50










    • @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
      – SAH
      Aug 17 at 21:39
















    • pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
      – heshy
      Aug 9 at 18:47






    • 2




      The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
      – CJ Dennis
      Aug 10 at 0:13







    • 1




      @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
      – SAH
      Aug 14 at 7:20










    • Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
      – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
      Aug 16 at 10:50










    • @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
      – SAH
      Aug 17 at 21:39















    pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
    – heshy
    Aug 9 at 18:47




    pretty good sleuthing! the reciept near the bottle indicated that the bottle was purchased in the uk
    – heshy
    Aug 9 at 18:47




    2




    2




    The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
    – CJ Dennis
    Aug 10 at 0:13





    The normal style is [sic] (text reproduced exactly) not (sic!) (Oh my goodness, look how bad that is!).
    – CJ Dennis
    Aug 10 at 0:13





    1




    1




    @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
    – SAH
    Aug 14 at 7:20




    @AvrohomYitzchok would it be stealing (i.e. from the government, from taxpayers) to drink it for non-sacramental purposes? This is not a joke
    – SAH
    Aug 14 at 7:20












    Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
    – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
    Aug 16 at 10:50




    Perhaps this could be posted as a serious question of Halacha
    – Yerucham David ben Mordecai
    Aug 16 at 10:50












    @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
    – SAH
    Aug 17 at 21:39




    @YeruchamDavidbenMordecai Perhaps...
    – SAH
    Aug 17 at 21:39










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    Sacrimental purposes exempts from tax in many places like New York see here: https://tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/abt/exempt_sales_and_uses.htm






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    • I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
      – DanF
      Aug 9 at 21:25














    up vote
    2
    down vote













    Sacrimental purposes exempts from tax in many places like New York see here: https://tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/abt/exempt_sales_and_uses.htm






    share|improve this answer




















    • I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
      – DanF
      Aug 9 at 21:25












    up vote
    2
    down vote










    up vote
    2
    down vote









    Sacrimental purposes exempts from tax in many places like New York see here: https://tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/abt/exempt_sales_and_uses.htm






    share|improve this answer












    Sacrimental purposes exempts from tax in many places like New York see here: https://tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/abt/exempt_sales_and_uses.htm







    share|improve this answer












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    answered Aug 9 at 16:18









    yosefkorn

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    • I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
      – DanF
      Aug 9 at 21:25
















    • I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
      – DanF
      Aug 9 at 21:25















    I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
    – DanF
    Aug 9 at 21:25




    I have to view that law. AFAIK, all wines are taxed, and I've never seen this wording placed on Kedem (or any other brand's) wines.
    – DanF
    Aug 9 at 21:25










    up vote
    1
    down vote













    I'm not good enough at reading legislative mumbo-jumbo to completely understand the particulars of the section in question, but New York state has a law (the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law) which specifies certain restrictions on alcoholic beverages. Section 6 in particular deals with wine.



    I don't know for sure that this law is the reason Kedem puts this disclaimer on the bottles, but it seems plausible to me that they do it just to avoid the possibility of legal mix-ups even though it may not be strictly necessary for non-alcoholic beverages. There is a section in the law (76(10)) which makes an exception to some of the restrictions for sacramental purposes.



    Someone who is better at reading these kinds of things may be able to clarify the law better than I can.






    share|improve this answer


























      up vote
      1
      down vote













      I'm not good enough at reading legislative mumbo-jumbo to completely understand the particulars of the section in question, but New York state has a law (the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law) which specifies certain restrictions on alcoholic beverages. Section 6 in particular deals with wine.



      I don't know for sure that this law is the reason Kedem puts this disclaimer on the bottles, but it seems plausible to me that they do it just to avoid the possibility of legal mix-ups even though it may not be strictly necessary for non-alcoholic beverages. There is a section in the law (76(10)) which makes an exception to some of the restrictions for sacramental purposes.



      Someone who is better at reading these kinds of things may be able to clarify the law better than I can.






      share|improve this answer
























        up vote
        1
        down vote










        up vote
        1
        down vote









        I'm not good enough at reading legislative mumbo-jumbo to completely understand the particulars of the section in question, but New York state has a law (the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law) which specifies certain restrictions on alcoholic beverages. Section 6 in particular deals with wine.



        I don't know for sure that this law is the reason Kedem puts this disclaimer on the bottles, but it seems plausible to me that they do it just to avoid the possibility of legal mix-ups even though it may not be strictly necessary for non-alcoholic beverages. There is a section in the law (76(10)) which makes an exception to some of the restrictions for sacramental purposes.



        Someone who is better at reading these kinds of things may be able to clarify the law better than I can.






        share|improve this answer














        I'm not good enough at reading legislative mumbo-jumbo to completely understand the particulars of the section in question, but New York state has a law (the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law) which specifies certain restrictions on alcoholic beverages. Section 6 in particular deals with wine.



        I don't know for sure that this law is the reason Kedem puts this disclaimer on the bottles, but it seems plausible to me that they do it just to avoid the possibility of legal mix-ups even though it may not be strictly necessary for non-alcoholic beverages. There is a section in the law (76(10)) which makes an exception to some of the restrictions for sacramental purposes.



        Someone who is better at reading these kinds of things may be able to clarify the law better than I can.







        share|improve this answer














        share|improve this answer



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        edited Aug 9 at 14:35

























        answered Aug 9 at 14:29









        Daniel

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