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Currently working for a Company, had no negative reviews or anything, in fact not had one meeting with my line manager or anyone to give me a performance review. Have assumed that this is a good thing. I have always felt that they are proud of my work.
The boss of the company is a 70 year old who knows very little about IT and wants things done instantly. When I told him the changes he wanted me to make would take a few weeks, He told me he was disappointed and that he would no longer be using my code.
I was always under the impression that in the UK you HAD to have a valid reason to fail someones probation or to extend it. My mother runs a business, has wanted to fail someones probation but has been told that there has to be valid chain i.e. meetings and a plan put in place so that they can resolve before they are allowed to terminate your contract. This was told to her by Peninsula who are the UKs leading HR people.
Having done some research, it looks like you can end someones probation period and terminate the contract just because? any employers or people had experience with this?
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Currently working for a Company, had no negative reviews or anything, in fact not had one meeting with my line manager or anyone to give me a performance review. Have assumed that this is a good thing. I have always felt that they are proud of my work.
The boss of the company is a 70 year old who knows very little about IT and wants things done instantly. When I told him the changes he wanted me to make would take a few weeks, He told me he was disappointed and that he would no longer be using my code.
I was always under the impression that in the UK you HAD to have a valid reason to fail someones probation or to extend it. My mother runs a business, has wanted to fail someones probation but has been told that there has to be valid chain i.e. meetings and a plan put in place so that they can resolve before they are allowed to terminate your contract. This was told to her by Peninsula who are the UKs leading HR people.
Having done some research, it looks like you can end someones probation period and terminate the contract just because? any employers or people had experience with this?
human-resources united-kingdom contracts termination
edited Nov 14 '17 at 7:46
Snow♦
49.9k44166210
asked Mar 4 '14 at 14:46
Marriott81
1,360817
closed as off-topic by Elysian Fields♦, CMW, mhoran_psprep, Jim G., jcmeloni Mar 4 '14 at 20:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking legal advice are off-topic as they require answers by legal professionals. See: What is asking for legal advice?" – Elysian Fields, CMW, mhoran_psprep, Jim G., jcmeloni
You're not fired until you are fired. "I won't be using your code" isn't firing you.
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Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
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Currently working for a Company, had no negative reviews or anything, in fact not had one meeting with my line manager or anyone to give me a performance review. Have assumed that this is a good thing. I have always felt that they are proud of my work.
The boss of the company is a 70 year old who knows very little about IT and wants things done instantly. When I told him the changes he wanted me to make would take a few weeks, He told me he was disappointed and that he would no longer be using my code.
I was always under the impression that in the UK you HAD to have a valid reason to fail someones probation or to extend it. My mother runs a business, has wanted to fail someones probation but has been told that there has to be valid chain i.e. meetings and a plan put in place so that they can resolve before they are allowed to terminate your contract. This was told to her by Peninsula who are the UKs leading HR people.
Having done some research, it looks like you can end someones probation period and terminate the contract just because? any employers or people had experience with this?
human-resources united-kingdom contracts termination
edited Nov 14 '17 at 7:46
Snow♦
49.9k44166210
asked Mar 4 '14 at 14:46
Marriott81
1,360817
Currently working for a Company, had no negative reviews or anything, in fact not had one meeting with my line manager or anyone to give me a performance review. Have assumed that this is a good thing. I have always felt that they are proud of my work.
The boss of the company is a 70 year old who knows very little about IT and wants things done instantly. When I told him the changes he wanted me to make would take a few weeks, He told me he was disappointed and that he would no longer be using my code.
I was always under the impression that in the UK you HAD to have a valid reason to fail someones probation or to extend it. My mother runs a business, has wanted to fail someones probation but has been told that there has to be valid chain i.e. meetings and a plan put in place so that they can resolve before they are allowed to terminate your contract. This was told to her by Peninsula who are the UKs leading HR people.
Having done some research, it looks like you can end someones probation period and terminate the contract just because? any employers or people had experience with this?
human-resources united-kingdom contracts termination
edited Nov 14 '17 at 7:46
Snow♦
49.9k44166210
asked Mar 4 '14 at 14:46
Marriott81
1,360817
edited Nov 14 '17 at 7:46
Snow♦
49.9k44166210
edited Nov 14 '17 at 7:46
Snow♦
49.9k44166210
edited Nov 14 '17 at 7:46
Snow♦
49.9k44166210
49.9k44166210
asked Mar 4 '14 at 14:46
Marriott81
1,360817
asked Mar 4 '14 at 14:46
Marriott81
1,360817
asked Mar 4 '14 at 14:46
Marriott81
1,360817
1,360817
closed as off-topic by Elysian Fields♦, CMW, mhoran_psprep, Jim G., jcmeloni Mar 4 '14 at 20:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking legal advice are off-topic as they require answers by legal professionals. See: What is asking for legal advice?" – Elysian Fields, CMW, mhoran_psprep, Jim G., jcmeloni
closed as off-topic by Elysian Fields♦, CMW, mhoran_psprep, Jim G., jcmeloni Mar 4 '14 at 20:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking legal advice are off-topic as they require answers by legal professionals. See: What is asking for legal advice?" – Elysian Fields, CMW, mhoran_psprep, Jim G., jcmeloni
You're not fired until you are fired. "I won't be using your code" isn't firing you.
– gnasher729
Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
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You're not fired until you are fired. "I won't be using your code" isn't firing you.
– gnasher729
Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
You're not fired until you are fired. "I won't be using your code" isn't firing you.
– gnasher729
Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
You're not fired until you are fired. "I won't be using your code" isn't firing you.
– gnasher729
Nov 14 '17 at 23:00
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From the UK government site (https://www.gov.uk/dismissal)
Dismissal is when your employer ends your employment - they don’t always have to give you notice.
If you’re dismissed, your employer must show they’ve:
- a valid reason that they can justify
- acted reasonably in the circumstances
They must also:
- be consistent - eg not dismiss you for doing something that they let other employees do
- have investigated the situation fully before dismissing you - eg if a complaint was made about you
...
You have the right to ask for a written statement from your employer giving the reasons why you’ve been dismissed if you’re an employee and have completed 2 years’ service (1 year if you started before 6 April 2012).
Talk to a lawyer, but your rights are limited until 2 years service.
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
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Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
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1 Answer
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From the UK government site (https://www.gov.uk/dismissal)
Dismissal is when your employer ends your employment - they don’t always have to give you notice.
If you’re dismissed, your employer must show they’ve:
- a valid reason that they can justify
- acted reasonably in the circumstances
They must also:
- be consistent - eg not dismiss you for doing something that they let other employees do
- have investigated the situation fully before dismissing you - eg if a complaint was made about you
...
You have the right to ask for a written statement from your employer giving the reasons why you’ve been dismissed if you’re an employee and have completed 2 years’ service (1 year if you started before 6 April 2012).
Talk to a lawyer, but your rights are limited until 2 years service.
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
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Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
From the UK government site (https://www.gov.uk/dismissal)
Dismissal is when your employer ends your employment - they don’t always have to give you notice.
If you’re dismissed, your employer must show they’ve:
- a valid reason that they can justify
- acted reasonably in the circumstances
They must also:
- be consistent - eg not dismiss you for doing something that they let other employees do
- have investigated the situation fully before dismissing you - eg if a complaint was made about you
...
You have the right to ask for a written statement from your employer giving the reasons why you’ve been dismissed if you’re an employee and have completed 2 years’ service (1 year if you started before 6 April 2012).
Talk to a lawyer, but your rights are limited until 2 years service.
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
1
Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
From the UK government site (https://www.gov.uk/dismissal)
Dismissal is when your employer ends your employment - they don’t always have to give you notice.
If you’re dismissed, your employer must show they’ve:
- a valid reason that they can justify
- acted reasonably in the circumstances
They must also:
- be consistent - eg not dismiss you for doing something that they let other employees do
- have investigated the situation fully before dismissing you - eg if a complaint was made about you
...
You have the right to ask for a written statement from your employer giving the reasons why you’ve been dismissed if you’re an employee and have completed 2 years’ service (1 year if you started before 6 April 2012).
Talk to a lawyer, but your rights are limited until 2 years service.
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
From the UK government site (https://www.gov.uk/dismissal)
Dismissal is when your employer ends your employment - they don’t always have to give you notice.
If you’re dismissed, your employer must show they’ve:
- a valid reason that they can justify
- acted reasonably in the circumstances
They must also:
- be consistent - eg not dismiss you for doing something that they let other employees do
- have investigated the situation fully before dismissing you - eg if a complaint was made about you
...
You have the right to ask for a written statement from your employer giving the reasons why you’ve been dismissed if you’re an employee and have completed 2 years’ service (1 year if you started before 6 April 2012).
Talk to a lawyer, but your rights are limited until 2 years service.
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
edited Mar 4 '14 at 15:35
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
answered Mar 4 '14 at 15:30
The Wandering Dev Manager
29.8k956107
29.8k956107
1
Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
add a comment |Â
1
Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
1
1
Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
Not really, but it isn't too hard, just kangaroo court them into a PIP, then you're pretty much covered. Once past the 2 years it gets much harder. Not that I'd ever consider anything like that.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Mar 4 '14 at 16:37
add a comment |Â
You're not fired until you are fired. "I won't be using your code" isn't firing you.
– gnasher729
Nov 14 '17 at 23:00