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I'm sorry if this comes off as a first world problem but over the past few years I have been getting an increasing volume of emails from recruiters. These emails have started amounting to a few minutes of wasted time each day - this started amounting to hours every month.
I participate a lot in Stack Overflow and GitHub which probably brings attention to my name and I speak at conferences semi-regularly. I'm a collaborator in some relatively popular projects which doesn't exactly "help" in this regard. I assume that if this is a problem for me it must be a bigger problem for people who are more prolific (and there are plenty of those in StackOverflow).
Some of these emails are relevant but most are not - and in any case I am not actively looking for a new job.
- What can I do to deal with these emails?
- How can I get them to stop or at least deal with them more quickly without making myself less available to non-recruiting emails?
To clarify - I still do want to get relevant emails from people asking me about my code or my answers so downright making it impossible to contact me would not help. My LinkedIn literally says I'm only using it for their developer API and does not contain a picture or contact information. I have absolutely zero related organization at the moment at my personal mailbox.
software-industry recruitment time-management
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
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I'm sorry if this comes off as a first world problem but over the past few years I have been getting an increasing volume of emails from recruiters. These emails have started amounting to a few minutes of wasted time each day - this started amounting to hours every month.
I participate a lot in Stack Overflow and GitHub which probably brings attention to my name and I speak at conferences semi-regularly. I'm a collaborator in some relatively popular projects which doesn't exactly "help" in this regard. I assume that if this is a problem for me it must be a bigger problem for people who are more prolific (and there are plenty of those in StackOverflow).
Some of these emails are relevant but most are not - and in any case I am not actively looking for a new job.
- What can I do to deal with these emails?
- How can I get them to stop or at least deal with them more quickly without making myself less available to non-recruiting emails?
To clarify - I still do want to get relevant emails from people asking me about my code or my answers so downright making it impossible to contact me would not help. My LinkedIn literally says I'm only using it for their developer API and does not contain a picture or contact information. I have absolutely zero related organization at the moment at my personal mailbox.
software-industry recruitment time-management
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
Benjamin Gruenbaum
3,69421929
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/16947/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3732/… - this question is specifically about the problems that come with ""internet publicity"" from open source and stackoverflow.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:39
I take it that setting up junk/spam mail rules on your email accounts are not good enough for this problem?
– Anketam
Jun 9 '16 at 19:47
@Anketam I'm not a "pro" at setting up rules at my email account to be fair - but I'm not sure how I would go about it - these are mostly not automated emails.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:48
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At a minimum I hope you have secondary email that you use for "public". Once you have a public you have public you have a public. A recruited will find it.
– paparazzo
Jun 9 '16 at 19:53
You don't have to be a pro to set a simple email filter. That may be all that you need. Move suspected recruiter emails based on sender, keywords into a "Recruitment" folder and then verify that it's correct at a fixed interval (e.g. once per week - should take only a few minutes to do per week).
– Brandin
Jun 10 '16 at 6:55
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I'm sorry if this comes off as a first world problem but over the past few years I have been getting an increasing volume of emails from recruiters. These emails have started amounting to a few minutes of wasted time each day - this started amounting to hours every month.
I participate a lot in Stack Overflow and GitHub which probably brings attention to my name and I speak at conferences semi-regularly. I'm a collaborator in some relatively popular projects which doesn't exactly "help" in this regard. I assume that if this is a problem for me it must be a bigger problem for people who are more prolific (and there are plenty of those in StackOverflow).
Some of these emails are relevant but most are not - and in any case I am not actively looking for a new job.
- What can I do to deal with these emails?
- How can I get them to stop or at least deal with them more quickly without making myself less available to non-recruiting emails?
To clarify - I still do want to get relevant emails from people asking me about my code or my answers so downright making it impossible to contact me would not help. My LinkedIn literally says I'm only using it for their developer API and does not contain a picture or contact information. I have absolutely zero related organization at the moment at my personal mailbox.
software-industry recruitment time-management
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
Benjamin Gruenbaum
3,69421929
I'm sorry if this comes off as a first world problem but over the past few years I have been getting an increasing volume of emails from recruiters. These emails have started amounting to a few minutes of wasted time each day - this started amounting to hours every month.
I participate a lot in Stack Overflow and GitHub which probably brings attention to my name and I speak at conferences semi-regularly. I'm a collaborator in some relatively popular projects which doesn't exactly "help" in this regard. I assume that if this is a problem for me it must be a bigger problem for people who are more prolific (and there are plenty of those in StackOverflow).
Some of these emails are relevant but most are not - and in any case I am not actively looking for a new job.
- What can I do to deal with these emails?
- How can I get them to stop or at least deal with them more quickly without making myself less available to non-recruiting emails?
To clarify - I still do want to get relevant emails from people asking me about my code or my answers so downright making it impossible to contact me would not help. My LinkedIn literally says I'm only using it for their developer API and does not contain a picture or contact information. I have absolutely zero related organization at the moment at my personal mailbox.
software-industry recruitment time-management
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
Benjamin Gruenbaum
3,69421929
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
Benjamin Gruenbaum
3,69421929
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
Benjamin Gruenbaum
3,69421929
asked Jun 9 '16 at 19:34
Benjamin Gruenbaum
3,69421929
3,69421929
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/16947/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3732/… - this question is specifically about the problems that come with ""internet publicity"" from open source and stackoverflow.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:39
I take it that setting up junk/spam mail rules on your email accounts are not good enough for this problem?
– Anketam
Jun 9 '16 at 19:47
@Anketam I'm not a "pro" at setting up rules at my email account to be fair - but I'm not sure how I would go about it - these are mostly not automated emails.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:48
2
At a minimum I hope you have secondary email that you use for "public". Once you have a public you have public you have a public. A recruited will find it.
– paparazzo
Jun 9 '16 at 19:53
You don't have to be a pro to set a simple email filter. That may be all that you need. Move suspected recruiter emails based on sender, keywords into a "Recruitment" folder and then verify that it's correct at a fixed interval (e.g. once per week - should take only a few minutes to do per week).
– Brandin
Jun 10 '16 at 6:55
 |Â
show 6 more comments
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/16947/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3732/… - this question is specifically about the problems that come with ""internet publicity"" from open source and stackoverflow.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:39
I take it that setting up junk/spam mail rules on your email accounts are not good enough for this problem?
– Anketam
Jun 9 '16 at 19:47
@Anketam I'm not a "pro" at setting up rules at my email account to be fair - but I'm not sure how I would go about it - these are mostly not automated emails.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:48
2
At a minimum I hope you have secondary email that you use for "public". Once you have a public you have public you have a public. A recruited will find it.
– paparazzo
Jun 9 '16 at 19:53
You don't have to be a pro to set a simple email filter. That may be all that you need. Move suspected recruiter emails based on sender, keywords into a "Recruitment" folder and then verify that it's correct at a fixed interval (e.g. once per week - should take only a few minutes to do per week).
– Brandin
Jun 10 '16 at 6:55
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/16947/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3732/… - this question is specifically about the problems that come with ""internet publicity"" from open source and stackoverflow.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:39
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/16947/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3732/… - this question is specifically about the problems that come with ""internet publicity"" from open source and stackoverflow.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:39
I take it that setting up junk/spam mail rules on your email accounts are not good enough for this problem?
– Anketam
Jun 9 '16 at 19:47
I take it that setting up junk/spam mail rules on your email accounts are not good enough for this problem?
– Anketam
Jun 9 '16 at 19:47
@Anketam I'm not a "pro" at setting up rules at my email account to be fair - but I'm not sure how I would go about it - these are mostly not automated emails.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:48
@Anketam I'm not a "pro" at setting up rules at my email account to be fair - but I'm not sure how I would go about it - these are mostly not automated emails.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:48
2
2
At a minimum I hope you have secondary email that you use for "public". Once you have a public you have public you have a public. A recruited will find it.
– paparazzo
Jun 9 '16 at 19:53
At a minimum I hope you have secondary email that you use for "public". Once you have a public you have public you have a public. A recruited will find it.
– paparazzo
Jun 9 '16 at 19:53
You don't have to be a pro to set a simple email filter. That may be all that you need. Move suspected recruiter emails based on sender, keywords into a "Recruitment" folder and then verify that it's correct at a fixed interval (e.g. once per week - should take only a few minutes to do per week).
– Brandin
Jun 10 '16 at 6:55
You don't have to be a pro to set a simple email filter. That may be all that you need. Move suspected recruiter emails based on sender, keywords into a "Recruitment" folder and then verify that it's correct at a fixed interval (e.g. once per week - should take only a few minutes to do per week).
– Brandin
Jun 10 '16 at 6:55
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Celebrities who are typically pleasant people can turn into raging jerks when confronted by strangers. One wants to be nice, and recognize recruiters are simply doing their jobs, but for the most part recruiters are engaged in cold-calling, which has a very low conversion/response rate.
I've been on LinkedIn since it was in beta, and have received probably thousands of offers or requests to connect, the vast majority of which are a waste of my time. But I've also met people and found opportunities though LinkedIn that I wouldn't have otherwise.
I'm not sure moving away from LinkedIn is the answer either, since most recruiters are mining the places where developers frequent, like SO, GitHub, user groups, and conferences.
Ultimately, you deal with these emails more quickly by ignoring them. Recruiters expect to be ignored by everyone except those who need them. You don't need them right now.
If any recruiter -- maybe 1 out of 100 or more -- looks interesting or offers interesting work, then maybe email back and say thanks. This can be classified as a "good problem to have" but is still admittedly a problem.
There may come a time when you need a recruiter, and at that time you may want to reach back to one of the good ones and have a conversation. The good recruiters are the ones who:
- address you by name
- understand your profile and history
- offer specific opportunities in your
- area of interest
- skill level
- are connected to other developers you know and respect
These type of recruiters are rare, but at the same time are easy to spot at a glance because their communication is so much different than all the others.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any other good way to deal with recruiters, aside from ignoring the irrelevant ones (who represent about 99% of the communication), and be assured that you'll know the good recruiter when you see one. You can't be both available and invisible -- I would argue it's more work to try to build walls.
answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
15.6k55468
To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
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Celebrities who are typically pleasant people can turn into raging jerks when confronted by strangers. One wants to be nice, and recognize recruiters are simply doing their jobs, but for the most part recruiters are engaged in cold-calling, which has a very low conversion/response rate.
I've been on LinkedIn since it was in beta, and have received probably thousands of offers or requests to connect, the vast majority of which are a waste of my time. But I've also met people and found opportunities though LinkedIn that I wouldn't have otherwise.
I'm not sure moving away from LinkedIn is the answer either, since most recruiters are mining the places where developers frequent, like SO, GitHub, user groups, and conferences.
Ultimately, you deal with these emails more quickly by ignoring them. Recruiters expect to be ignored by everyone except those who need them. You don't need them right now.
If any recruiter -- maybe 1 out of 100 or more -- looks interesting or offers interesting work, then maybe email back and say thanks. This can be classified as a "good problem to have" but is still admittedly a problem.
There may come a time when you need a recruiter, and at that time you may want to reach back to one of the good ones and have a conversation. The good recruiters are the ones who:
- address you by name
- understand your profile and history
- offer specific opportunities in your
- area of interest
- skill level
- are connected to other developers you know and respect
These type of recruiters are rare, but at the same time are easy to spot at a glance because their communication is so much different than all the others.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any other good way to deal with recruiters, aside from ignoring the irrelevant ones (who represent about 99% of the communication), and be assured that you'll know the good recruiter when you see one. You can't be both available and invisible -- I would argue it's more work to try to build walls.
answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
15.6k55468
To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
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up vote
2
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Celebrities who are typically pleasant people can turn into raging jerks when confronted by strangers. One wants to be nice, and recognize recruiters are simply doing their jobs, but for the most part recruiters are engaged in cold-calling, which has a very low conversion/response rate.
I've been on LinkedIn since it was in beta, and have received probably thousands of offers or requests to connect, the vast majority of which are a waste of my time. But I've also met people and found opportunities though LinkedIn that I wouldn't have otherwise.
I'm not sure moving away from LinkedIn is the answer either, since most recruiters are mining the places where developers frequent, like SO, GitHub, user groups, and conferences.
Ultimately, you deal with these emails more quickly by ignoring them. Recruiters expect to be ignored by everyone except those who need them. You don't need them right now.
If any recruiter -- maybe 1 out of 100 or more -- looks interesting or offers interesting work, then maybe email back and say thanks. This can be classified as a "good problem to have" but is still admittedly a problem.
There may come a time when you need a recruiter, and at that time you may want to reach back to one of the good ones and have a conversation. The good recruiters are the ones who:
- address you by name
- understand your profile and history
- offer specific opportunities in your
- area of interest
- skill level
- are connected to other developers you know and respect
These type of recruiters are rare, but at the same time are easy to spot at a glance because their communication is so much different than all the others.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any other good way to deal with recruiters, aside from ignoring the irrelevant ones (who represent about 99% of the communication), and be assured that you'll know the good recruiter when you see one. You can't be both available and invisible -- I would argue it's more work to try to build walls.
answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
15.6k55468
To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Celebrities who are typically pleasant people can turn into raging jerks when confronted by strangers. One wants to be nice, and recognize recruiters are simply doing their jobs, but for the most part recruiters are engaged in cold-calling, which has a very low conversion/response rate.
I've been on LinkedIn since it was in beta, and have received probably thousands of offers or requests to connect, the vast majority of which are a waste of my time. But I've also met people and found opportunities though LinkedIn that I wouldn't have otherwise.
I'm not sure moving away from LinkedIn is the answer either, since most recruiters are mining the places where developers frequent, like SO, GitHub, user groups, and conferences.
Ultimately, you deal with these emails more quickly by ignoring them. Recruiters expect to be ignored by everyone except those who need them. You don't need them right now.
If any recruiter -- maybe 1 out of 100 or more -- looks interesting or offers interesting work, then maybe email back and say thanks. This can be classified as a "good problem to have" but is still admittedly a problem.
There may come a time when you need a recruiter, and at that time you may want to reach back to one of the good ones and have a conversation. The good recruiters are the ones who:
- address you by name
- understand your profile and history
- offer specific opportunities in your
- area of interest
- skill level
- are connected to other developers you know and respect
These type of recruiters are rare, but at the same time are easy to spot at a glance because their communication is so much different than all the others.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any other good way to deal with recruiters, aside from ignoring the irrelevant ones (who represent about 99% of the communication), and be assured that you'll know the good recruiter when you see one. You can't be both available and invisible -- I would argue it's more work to try to build walls.
answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
15.6k55468
Celebrities who are typically pleasant people can turn into raging jerks when confronted by strangers. One wants to be nice, and recognize recruiters are simply doing their jobs, but for the most part recruiters are engaged in cold-calling, which has a very low conversion/response rate.
I've been on LinkedIn since it was in beta, and have received probably thousands of offers or requests to connect, the vast majority of which are a waste of my time. But I've also met people and found opportunities though LinkedIn that I wouldn't have otherwise.
I'm not sure moving away from LinkedIn is the answer either, since most recruiters are mining the places where developers frequent, like SO, GitHub, user groups, and conferences.
Ultimately, you deal with these emails more quickly by ignoring them. Recruiters expect to be ignored by everyone except those who need them. You don't need them right now.
If any recruiter -- maybe 1 out of 100 or more -- looks interesting or offers interesting work, then maybe email back and say thanks. This can be classified as a "good problem to have" but is still admittedly a problem.
There may come a time when you need a recruiter, and at that time you may want to reach back to one of the good ones and have a conversation. The good recruiters are the ones who:
- address you by name
- understand your profile and history
- offer specific opportunities in your
- area of interest
- skill level
- are connected to other developers you know and respect
These type of recruiters are rare, but at the same time are easy to spot at a glance because their communication is so much different than all the others.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any other good way to deal with recruiters, aside from ignoring the irrelevant ones (who represent about 99% of the communication), and be assured that you'll know the good recruiter when you see one. You can't be both available and invisible -- I would argue it's more work to try to build walls.
answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
15.6k55468
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answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
15.6k55468
answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
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answered Jun 9 '16 at 19:57
mcknz
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To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
suggest improvements |Â
To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
To clarify - I am ignoring the vast majority of these emails and I acknowledge I am getting them in the first place since I'm less shy and more proactive than others. I have no "delusion of grandeur" and I don't think I'm a particularly exceptional developer by any standard. It's entirely possible I'll need a job and need help finding it in a few years but I doubt knowing recruiters from cold emails would help. Thank you for the answer.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 20:05
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum And that's just what an exceptional developer would say! :)
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:39
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I know what you mean -- it's the cost of being more visible in general.
– mcknz
Jun 9 '16 at 20:49
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Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/16947/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3732/… - this question is specifically about the problems that come with ""internet publicity"" from open source and stackoverflow.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:39
I take it that setting up junk/spam mail rules on your email accounts are not good enough for this problem?
– Anketam
Jun 9 '16 at 19:47
@Anketam I'm not a "pro" at setting up rules at my email account to be fair - but I'm not sure how I would go about it - these are mostly not automated emails.
– Benjamin Gruenbaum
Jun 9 '16 at 19:48
2
At a minimum I hope you have secondary email that you use for "public". Once you have a public you have public you have a public. A recruited will find it.
– paparazzo
Jun 9 '16 at 19:53
You don't have to be a pro to set a simple email filter. That may be all that you need. Move suspected recruiter emails based on sender, keywords into a "Recruitment" folder and then verify that it's correct at a fixed interval (e.g. once per week - should take only a few minutes to do per week).
– Brandin
Jun 10 '16 at 6:55