Velocity of a particle on a Parabola

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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.










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  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
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  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.










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  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
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So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.










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A particle moves along the top of the
parabola $y^2 = 2x$ from left to right at a constant speed of 5 units
per second. Find the velocity of the particle as it moves through
the point $(2, 2)$.




So I isolate $y$, giving me $y=sqrt2x$. I then find the derivative of $y$, which is $1/sqrt2x$. And $sqrt2x=y$ so the derivative of also equal to $1/y$. At $(2,2)$ the derivative is 0.5. Not sure where to go from there though. Any help is appreciated.







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  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
    – coffeemath
    4 hours ago










  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
    – amd
    3 hours ago
















  • I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
    – coffeemath
    4 hours ago










  • Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
    – amd
    3 hours ago















I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
– coffeemath
4 hours ago




I think you need to use that speed is 5, and also it moves along the parabola which has varying nearby distances at different points.
– coffeemath
4 hours ago












Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
– amd
3 hours ago




Find the direction of the tangent at $(2,2)$ and create a vector with that direction and length equal to $5$.
– amd
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$(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



$cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
(Pythagoras).



$v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



$vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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    Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



    $$
    vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
    $$



    Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



    $$
    y^2=2x
    $$

    we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
    $$
    vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
    $$

    Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
    $$
    vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
    $$

    Then the velocity is
    $$
    vecv=(c^2t,c)
    $$

    At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



    $$
    vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
    $$

    Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
    $$
    beginalign
    vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
    vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
    endalign
    $$

    at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
    $$
    beginalign
    veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
    vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
    endalign
    $$






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      In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



      $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



      and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



      $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



      therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



      $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



      As an alternative



      $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



      therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



      $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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        in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



        $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



        $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



        to get ,



        $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



        thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



        $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



        in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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          $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



          Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



          $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
          (Pythagoras).



          $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



          $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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            $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



            Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



            $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
            (Pythagoras).



            $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



            $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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              $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



              Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



              $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
              (Pythagoras).



              $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



              $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.






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              $(2y) dy/dx=2$; $dy/dx =1/y$.



              Slope at $(2,2)$: $dy/dx =1/2= tan alpha$.



              $cos alpha =2/√5$, $sin alpha =1/√5.$
              (Pythagoras).



              $v_x= v cos alpha$; $v_y = v sin alpha$, where $v = |vec v|$ .



              $vec v = (v_x,v_y) $.







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                  Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                  $$
                  vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                  $$



                  Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                  $$
                  y^2=2x
                  $$

                  we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                  $$
                  vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                  $$

                  Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                  $$
                  vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                  $$

                  Then the velocity is
                  $$
                  vecv=(c^2t,c)
                  $$

                  At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                  $$
                  vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                  $$

                  Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                  $$
                  beginalign
                  vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                  vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                  endalign
                  $$

                  at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                  $$
                  beginalign
                  veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                  vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                  endalign
                  $$






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                    Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                    $$
                    vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                    $$



                    Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                    $$
                    y^2=2x
                    $$

                    we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                    $$
                    vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                    $$

                    Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                    $$
                    vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                    $$

                    Then the velocity is
                    $$
                    vecv=(c^2t,c)
                    $$

                    At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                    $$
                    vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                    $$

                    Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                    $$
                    beginalign
                    vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                    vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                    endalign
                    $$

                    at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                    $$
                    beginalign
                    veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                    vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                    endalign
                    $$






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                      Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                      $$
                      vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                      $$



                      Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                      $$
                      y^2=2x
                      $$

                      we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                      $$
                      vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                      $$

                      Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                      $$
                      vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                      $$

                      Then the velocity is
                      $$
                      vecv=(c^2t,c)
                      $$

                      At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                      $$
                      vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                      $$

                      Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                      $$
                      beginalign
                      vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                      vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                      endalign
                      $$

                      at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                      $$
                      beginalign
                      veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                      vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                      endalign
                      $$






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                      Consider the curve in a parametric form $vecz=(x(t),y(t))$, in that case we know that



                      $$
                      vecv=fracmathrmdveczmathrmdt=(x'(t),y'(t))
                      $$



                      Additionally, we know that the speed is $|vecv|=5$. Therefore, we need to find the direction of $vecv$. Given the equation of the curve



                      $$
                      y^2=2x
                      $$

                      we can write the parametric from in terms of $y$ alone:
                      $$
                      vecz=left(fracy(t)^22,y(t) right)
                      $$

                      Moreover, we can pick the parameter $t$ such that $y(t)=ct$, where $c$ is a constant. Then:
                      $$
                      vecz=left(fracc^2t^22,ct right)
                      $$

                      Then the velocity is
                      $$
                      vecv=(c^2t,c)
                      $$

                      At the point $vecz=(2,2)$, $t=2/c$. Therefore,



                      $$
                      vecv=(2c,c) Rightarrow |vecv|=sqrt4c^2+c^2=5
                      $$

                      Then, $c=sqrt5$. Lets check our solution,
                      $$
                      beginalign
                      vecz(t)=&left(frac5t^22,sqrt5tright)\
                      vecv(t)=&left(5t,sqrt5right)
                      endalign
                      $$

                      at $t=frac2sqrt5$:
                      $$
                      beginalign
                      veczleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(frac52cdotfrac45,sqrt5frac2sqrt5right)=(2,2)\
                      vecvleft(frac2sqrt5right)=&left(5frac2sqrt5,sqrt5right)=(2sqrt5,sqrt5)
                      endalign
                      $$







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                          In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



                          $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



                          and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



                          $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



                          therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



                          $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



                          As an alternative



                          $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



                          therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



                          $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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                            In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



                            $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



                            and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



                            $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



                            therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



                            $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



                            As an alternative



                            $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



                            therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



                            $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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                              In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



                              $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



                              and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



                              $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



                              therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



                              $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



                              As an alternative



                              $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



                              therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



                              $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$






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                              In that case is useful to use parametric equation that is



                              $$y^2=2x implies vec s(t)=(2c^2t^2,2ct) implies vec v(t)=s'(t)=(4c^2t,2c)$$



                              and since the point $(2,2)$ is reached at $t=1/c$, that is $vec s(1/c)=(2,2)$, the velocity at that point is $vec v(1/c)=(4c,2c)$ and since the speed is $5$ we have



                              $$|v(1/c)|=sqrt16c^2+4c^2=5 implies c=fracsqrt 52$$



                              therefore the velocity at $(2,2)$ is



                              $$v(t)=left(2sqrt 5,sqrt 5right)$$



                              As an alternative



                              $$y^2=2x implies 2ydy=2dx implies fracdydx=frac1y$$



                              therefore at the point $(2,2)$ the tangent vector is $(4,2)$ and then the velocity vector is $k(4,2)$ and form the condition on the speed we find



                              $$5=ksqrt16+4implies k=fracsqrt 52$$







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                                  in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                  $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                  $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                  to get ,



                                  $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                  thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                  $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                  in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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                                    in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                    $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                    $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                    to get ,



                                    $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                    thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                    $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                    in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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                                      in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                      $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                      $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                      to get ,



                                      $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                      thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                      $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                      in above calculations gravity is not taken into account






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                                      in cartesian co-ordinate sysytem :



                                      $(speed)^2=left(dfracdxdtright)^2+left(dfracdydtright)^2=25$ also,



                                      $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac1yleft(dfracdxdtright) $ put it in above equation



                                      to get ,



                                      $left(dfracdxdtright)=dfrac5ysqrt1+y^2$ and $left(dfracdydtright)=dfrac5sqrt1+y^2$



                                      thus, at point (2,2) speed will be



                                      $sqrt (2sqrt5)^2+(sqrt 5)^2=5 $ unit per second



                                      in above calculations gravity is not taken into account







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