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Is it bad to use pics from a wedding I shot for another photog as primary in my web portfolio?
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A local photographer who double-booked reached out to me in an emergency to shoot a wedding in their place. They had another person who was supposed to shoot for the photographer but they flaked out. We both have our own individual businesses, btw. The bride adored me and the pictures I took, but of course the photographer she hired will edit the photos since he was originally hired and he has a moody style while I on the other hand edit light and airy.
Now of course I'm attached to the images I took and I'm very proud of the work I do, so I am extremely tempted to use my fave images from the wedding on my website portfolio. How much of a jerk would I be to do that even if I waited for him to share images first? I want to ask him but at the same time I'm scared he will resist, even though I feel entitled to use what I want since I was the one who showed up. How would anyone else proceed?
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A local photographer who double-booked reached out to me in an emergency to shoot a wedding in their place. They had another person who was supposed to shoot for the photographer but they flaked out. We both have our own individual businesses, btw. The bride adored me and the pictures I took, but of course the photographer she hired will edit the photos since he was originally hired and he has a moody style while I on the other hand edit light and airy.
Now of course I'm attached to the images I took and I'm very proud of the work I do, so I am extremely tempted to use my fave images from the wedding on my website portfolio. How much of a jerk would I be to do that even if I waited for him to share images first? I want to ask him but at the same time I'm scared he will resist, even though I feel entitled to use what I want since I was the one who showed up. How would anyone else proceed?
portfolio professional-etiquette
edited Aug 19 at 12:07
mattdm
115k37335626
asked Aug 19 at 6:18
Jamal
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I assume you would have mentioned it, but to be certain: this was done so hastily that you have no written contract and you didn't discuss it orally before the shoot either?
– Peter Taylor
Aug 19 at 6:39
1
Possible duplicate of Is it poor etiquette for a second shooter at a wedding to present that work without mentioning the primary business?
– Michael Clark
Aug 19 at 8:35
1
@MichaelClark Nice find on the flip-side question!!
– mattdm
Aug 19 at 12:08
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Hmm, he wasn't the second shooter though.
– Robin
yesterday
Update. After speaking to the photographer he agreed that we can use the images for portfolio since I shot the wedding and he didn't.
– Jamal
8 hours ago
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A local photographer who double-booked reached out to me in an emergency to shoot a wedding in their place. They had another person who was supposed to shoot for the photographer but they flaked out. We both have our own individual businesses, btw. The bride adored me and the pictures I took, but of course the photographer she hired will edit the photos since he was originally hired and he has a moody style while I on the other hand edit light and airy.
Now of course I'm attached to the images I took and I'm very proud of the work I do, so I am extremely tempted to use my fave images from the wedding on my website portfolio. How much of a jerk would I be to do that even if I waited for him to share images first? I want to ask him but at the same time I'm scared he will resist, even though I feel entitled to use what I want since I was the one who showed up. How would anyone else proceed?
portfolio professional-etiquette
edited Aug 19 at 12:07
mattdm
115k37335626
asked Aug 19 at 6:18
Jamal
283
A local photographer who double-booked reached out to me in an emergency to shoot a wedding in their place. They had another person who was supposed to shoot for the photographer but they flaked out. We both have our own individual businesses, btw. The bride adored me and the pictures I took, but of course the photographer she hired will edit the photos since he was originally hired and he has a moody style while I on the other hand edit light and airy.
Now of course I'm attached to the images I took and I'm very proud of the work I do, so I am extremely tempted to use my fave images from the wedding on my website portfolio. How much of a jerk would I be to do that even if I waited for him to share images first? I want to ask him but at the same time I'm scared he will resist, even though I feel entitled to use what I want since I was the one who showed up. How would anyone else proceed?
portfolio professional-etiquette
edited Aug 19 at 12:07
mattdm
115k37335626
asked Aug 19 at 6:18
Jamal
283
edited Aug 19 at 12:07
mattdm
115k37335626
edited Aug 19 at 12:07
mattdm
115k37335626
edited Aug 19 at 12:07
mattdm
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115k37335626
asked Aug 19 at 6:18
Jamal
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Jamal
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Jamal
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I assume you would have mentioned it, but to be certain: this was done so hastily that you have no written contract and you didn't discuss it orally before the shoot either?
– Peter Taylor
Aug 19 at 6:39
1
Possible duplicate of Is it poor etiquette for a second shooter at a wedding to present that work without mentioning the primary business?
– Michael Clark
Aug 19 at 8:35
1
@MichaelClark Nice find on the flip-side question!!
– mattdm
Aug 19 at 12:08
1
Hmm, he wasn't the second shooter though.
– Robin
yesterday
Update. After speaking to the photographer he agreed that we can use the images for portfolio since I shot the wedding and he didn't.
– Jamal
8 hours ago
add a comment |Â
1
I assume you would have mentioned it, but to be certain: this was done so hastily that you have no written contract and you didn't discuss it orally before the shoot either?
– Peter Taylor
Aug 19 at 6:39
1
Possible duplicate of Is it poor etiquette for a second shooter at a wedding to present that work without mentioning the primary business?
– Michael Clark
Aug 19 at 8:35
1
@MichaelClark Nice find on the flip-side question!!
– mattdm
Aug 19 at 12:08
1
Hmm, he wasn't the second shooter though.
– Robin
yesterday
Update. After speaking to the photographer he agreed that we can use the images for portfolio since I shot the wedding and he didn't.
– Jamal
8 hours ago
1
1
I assume you would have mentioned it, but to be certain: this was done so hastily that you have no written contract and you didn't discuss it orally before the shoot either?
– Peter Taylor
Aug 19 at 6:39
I assume you would have mentioned it, but to be certain: this was done so hastily that you have no written contract and you didn't discuss it orally before the shoot either?
– Peter Taylor
Aug 19 at 6:39
1
1
Possible duplicate of Is it poor etiquette for a second shooter at a wedding to present that work without mentioning the primary business?
– Michael Clark
Aug 19 at 8:35
Possible duplicate of Is it poor etiquette for a second shooter at a wedding to present that work without mentioning the primary business?
– Michael Clark
Aug 19 at 8:35
1
1
@MichaelClark Nice find on the flip-side question!!
– mattdm
Aug 19 at 12:08
@MichaelClark Nice find on the flip-side question!!
– mattdm
Aug 19 at 12:08
1
1
Hmm, he wasn't the second shooter though.
– Robin
yesterday
Hmm, he wasn't the second shooter though.
– Robin
yesterday
Update. After speaking to the photographer he agreed that we can use the images for portfolio since I shot the wedding and he didn't.
– Jamal
8 hours ago
Update. After speaking to the photographer he agreed that we can use the images for portfolio since I shot the wedding and he didn't.
– Jamal
8 hours ago
add a comment |Â
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What does your contract with the photography say about this? Do you have a contract with the original photography, and if not, then why not. I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to an expert, but I've always thought that the person who pushed the button owns the copyrights to the image. So if this is true in your case, shouldn't the original photographer be the one asking YOU if they can publish YOUR work instead of the other way around?
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
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In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
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Just be professional about it and reach out to the other photographer. If your positions were reversed, it's likely what you would want him to do to you. Since he double booked, he might be bogged down in editing and willing to turn over the entire project to you.
Although he was the primary contact and will likely edit the photos, your work really shouldn't go in his portfolio at all because he did not actually take them, while inclusion in his portfolio would imply that he did.
As far as copyright is concerned, that likely depends on any contracts you signed when you took the job. Contact a lawyer.
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
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Check your contract as mentioned, as to copyright issues. As a wedding photographer for over 20 years, if I sub-contracted as a photographer for another studio, they owned rights to the images, accordingly anyone that sub-contracted for my studio, I contractually owned the rights to the images. However, if you want to use an image in your portfolio, I would contact the studio and get permission to display the images with a byline “Images by Roberts Photography†John Smith, Photographer
The short of it is that you don’t own the photos or rights to them, but maybe by offering to share the
byline you both get a little billing.
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
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It depends first of all on the contract. If there is no contract, then you own the images.
However, just because you own the images doesn't mean you can publish them. Many states have so-called "right of publicity" laws that forbid using someone's image for commercial purposes without their express written permission. Also, some states have "property publicity" laws that make it illegal to use pictures of features on private property for commercial purposes without express written permission. Therefore, you need to check the laws in your state to find out the rules.
If the state in which the pictures were taken has such laws, then you need to obtain the relevant "release" contracts signed by the subjects that authorize you to use their image commercially.
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
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4 Answers
4
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oldest
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
What does your contract with the photography say about this? Do you have a contract with the original photography, and if not, then why not. I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to an expert, but I've always thought that the person who pushed the button owns the copyrights to the image. So if this is true in your case, shouldn't the original photographer be the one asking YOU if they can publish YOUR work instead of the other way around?
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
What does your contract with the photography say about this? Do you have a contract with the original photography, and if not, then why not. I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to an expert, but I've always thought that the person who pushed the button owns the copyrights to the image. So if this is true in your case, shouldn't the original photographer be the one asking YOU if they can publish YOUR work instead of the other way around?
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
What does your contract with the photography say about this? Do you have a contract with the original photography, and if not, then why not. I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to an expert, but I've always thought that the person who pushed the button owns the copyrights to the image. So if this is true in your case, shouldn't the original photographer be the one asking YOU if they can publish YOUR work instead of the other way around?
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
What does your contract with the photography say about this? Do you have a contract with the original photography, and if not, then why not. I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to an expert, but I've always thought that the person who pushed the button owns the copyrights to the image. So if this is true in your case, shouldn't the original photographer be the one asking YOU if they can publish YOUR work instead of the other way around?
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
answered Aug 19 at 19:39
frank
2843
2843
In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
add a comment |Â
In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
In absence of a contract, this will be very dependent on the jurisdiction. Is it a 'work for hire' scenario or some other gotcha that might grant the CR to the other photographer.
– Robin
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
Just be professional about it and reach out to the other photographer. If your positions were reversed, it's likely what you would want him to do to you. Since he double booked, he might be bogged down in editing and willing to turn over the entire project to you.
Although he was the primary contact and will likely edit the photos, your work really shouldn't go in his portfolio at all because he did not actually take them, while inclusion in his portfolio would imply that he did.
As far as copyright is concerned, that likely depends on any contracts you signed when you took the job. Contact a lawyer.
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
Just be professional about it and reach out to the other photographer. If your positions were reversed, it's likely what you would want him to do to you. Since he double booked, he might be bogged down in editing and willing to turn over the entire project to you.
Although he was the primary contact and will likely edit the photos, your work really shouldn't go in his portfolio at all because he did not actually take them, while inclusion in his portfolio would imply that he did.
As far as copyright is concerned, that likely depends on any contracts you signed when you took the job. Contact a lawyer.
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
Just be professional about it and reach out to the other photographer. If your positions were reversed, it's likely what you would want him to do to you. Since he double booked, he might be bogged down in editing and willing to turn over the entire project to you.
Although he was the primary contact and will likely edit the photos, your work really shouldn't go in his portfolio at all because he did not actually take them, while inclusion in his portfolio would imply that he did.
As far as copyright is concerned, that likely depends on any contracts you signed when you took the job. Contact a lawyer.
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
Just be professional about it and reach out to the other photographer. If your positions were reversed, it's likely what you would want him to do to you. Since he double booked, he might be bogged down in editing and willing to turn over the entire project to you.
Although he was the primary contact and will likely edit the photos, your work really shouldn't go in his portfolio at all because he did not actually take them, while inclusion in his portfolio would imply that he did.
As far as copyright is concerned, that likely depends on any contracts you signed when you took the job. Contact a lawyer.
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
edited Aug 19 at 6:50
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
answered Aug 19 at 6:41
xiota
4,3841942
4,3841942
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Check your contract as mentioned, as to copyright issues. As a wedding photographer for over 20 years, if I sub-contracted as a photographer for another studio, they owned rights to the images, accordingly anyone that sub-contracted for my studio, I contractually owned the rights to the images. However, if you want to use an image in your portfolio, I would contact the studio and get permission to display the images with a byline “Images by Roberts Photography†John Smith, Photographer
The short of it is that you don’t own the photos or rights to them, but maybe by offering to share the
byline you both get a little billing.
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Check your contract as mentioned, as to copyright issues. As a wedding photographer for over 20 years, if I sub-contracted as a photographer for another studio, they owned rights to the images, accordingly anyone that sub-contracted for my studio, I contractually owned the rights to the images. However, if you want to use an image in your portfolio, I would contact the studio and get permission to display the images with a byline “Images by Roberts Photography†John Smith, Photographer
The short of it is that you don’t own the photos or rights to them, but maybe by offering to share the
byline you both get a little billing.
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Check your contract as mentioned, as to copyright issues. As a wedding photographer for over 20 years, if I sub-contracted as a photographer for another studio, they owned rights to the images, accordingly anyone that sub-contracted for my studio, I contractually owned the rights to the images. However, if you want to use an image in your portfolio, I would contact the studio and get permission to display the images with a byline “Images by Roberts Photography†John Smith, Photographer
The short of it is that you don’t own the photos or rights to them, but maybe by offering to share the
byline you both get a little billing.
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
Check your contract as mentioned, as to copyright issues. As a wedding photographer for over 20 years, if I sub-contracted as a photographer for another studio, they owned rights to the images, accordingly anyone that sub-contracted for my studio, I contractually owned the rights to the images. However, if you want to use an image in your portfolio, I would contact the studio and get permission to display the images with a byline “Images by Roberts Photography†John Smith, Photographer
The short of it is that you don’t own the photos or rights to them, but maybe by offering to share the
byline you both get a little billing.
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
answered Aug 27 at 22:42
Tony
312
312
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
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It depends first of all on the contract. If there is no contract, then you own the images.
However, just because you own the images doesn't mean you can publish them. Many states have so-called "right of publicity" laws that forbid using someone's image for commercial purposes without their express written permission. Also, some states have "property publicity" laws that make it illegal to use pictures of features on private property for commercial purposes without express written permission. Therefore, you need to check the laws in your state to find out the rules.
If the state in which the pictures were taken has such laws, then you need to obtain the relevant "release" contracts signed by the subjects that authorize you to use their image commercially.
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
Clickety Ricket
831318
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
It depends first of all on the contract. If there is no contract, then you own the images.
However, just because you own the images doesn't mean you can publish them. Many states have so-called "right of publicity" laws that forbid using someone's image for commercial purposes without their express written permission. Also, some states have "property publicity" laws that make it illegal to use pictures of features on private property for commercial purposes without express written permission. Therefore, you need to check the laws in your state to find out the rules.
If the state in which the pictures were taken has such laws, then you need to obtain the relevant "release" contracts signed by the subjects that authorize you to use their image commercially.
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
Clickety Ricket
831318
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
It depends first of all on the contract. If there is no contract, then you own the images.
However, just because you own the images doesn't mean you can publish them. Many states have so-called "right of publicity" laws that forbid using someone's image for commercial purposes without their express written permission. Also, some states have "property publicity" laws that make it illegal to use pictures of features on private property for commercial purposes without express written permission. Therefore, you need to check the laws in your state to find out the rules.
If the state in which the pictures were taken has such laws, then you need to obtain the relevant "release" contracts signed by the subjects that authorize you to use their image commercially.
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
Clickety Ricket
831318
It depends first of all on the contract. If there is no contract, then you own the images.
However, just because you own the images doesn't mean you can publish them. Many states have so-called "right of publicity" laws that forbid using someone's image for commercial purposes without their express written permission. Also, some states have "property publicity" laws that make it illegal to use pictures of features on private property for commercial purposes without express written permission. Therefore, you need to check the laws in your state to find out the rules.
If the state in which the pictures were taken has such laws, then you need to obtain the relevant "release" contracts signed by the subjects that authorize you to use their image commercially.
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
Clickety Ricket
831318
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
Clickety Ricket
831318
answered Aug 28 at 20:11
Clickety Ricket
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answered Aug 28 at 20:11
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I assume you would have mentioned it, but to be certain: this was done so hastily that you have no written contract and you didn't discuss it orally before the shoot either?
– Peter Taylor
Aug 19 at 6:39
1
Possible duplicate of Is it poor etiquette for a second shooter at a wedding to present that work without mentioning the primary business?
– Michael Clark
Aug 19 at 8:35
1
@MichaelClark Nice find on the flip-side question!!
– mattdm
Aug 19 at 12:08
1
Hmm, he wasn't the second shooter though.
– Robin
yesterday
Update. After speaking to the photographer he agreed that we can use the images for portfolio since I shot the wedding and he didn't.
– Jamal
8 hours ago