How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy without hurting her feelings?

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I've recently started dating a girl and we're an item, and are happy hanging out together. We have strong feelings for each other.



She is somewhat overweight (not hugely so but not at a healthy weight) and I am a little overweight. Although I do some exercise, usually playing squash and walking, I could still do with working out at the gym more. I would probably want to do mostly weight training, but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym membership lapse as a result.



I think it would hugely benefit both of us to go to the gym at least twice a week and I think a great solution would be for her to be my gym buddy. The trouble is I know she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight.



I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity, but I fear that asking her to be my gym buddy would be interpreted by her as "I find you fat and ugly" which is not true at all. I simply think it is a good thing in general to keep fit. At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.



So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes? I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym and arrange to go maybe 2 days a week to work out for an hour each time.







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    You say "recently" - do you feel there's enough trust there that you can be open about this sort of thing and have her completely believe you? Or are you still at the stage where, though she has strong feelings for you, she may not know you quite well enough for that?
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    I have some thoughts but need to know: When you say but not at a healthy weight is that something she has said herself? Does she currently have any health issues that are impacted by her weight? Do you currently talk to each other about your health issues? I don't mean temporary stuff like having the flu, I mean do you tell each other about the results of check-ups, what medications you're on, that sort of thing. When you say you think it would benefit you both, do you have specific goals in mind?
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    This might sound ridiculous, but have you checked that she actually wants to make any sort of change to herself? You're stating you find that she's overweight, is this actually something she wants to change, or something you want to change about her? (aka you're assuming the gym/losing weight is necessary, but...it's not always.)
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    Your question is missing some crucial information: Is your goal to get her to lose weight or do you just want someone to go down the gym with you?
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I've recently started dating a girl and we're an item, and are happy hanging out together. We have strong feelings for each other.



She is somewhat overweight (not hugely so but not at a healthy weight) and I am a little overweight. Although I do some exercise, usually playing squash and walking, I could still do with working out at the gym more. I would probably want to do mostly weight training, but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym membership lapse as a result.



I think it would hugely benefit both of us to go to the gym at least twice a week and I think a great solution would be for her to be my gym buddy. The trouble is I know she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight.



I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity, but I fear that asking her to be my gym buddy would be interpreted by her as "I find you fat and ugly" which is not true at all. I simply think it is a good thing in general to keep fit. At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.



So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes? I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym and arrange to go maybe 2 days a week to work out for an hour each time.







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    You say "recently" - do you feel there's enough trust there that you can be open about this sort of thing and have her completely believe you? Or are you still at the stage where, though she has strong feelings for you, she may not know you quite well enough for that?
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    I have some thoughts but need to know: When you say but not at a healthy weight is that something she has said herself? Does she currently have any health issues that are impacted by her weight? Do you currently talk to each other about your health issues? I don't mean temporary stuff like having the flu, I mean do you tell each other about the results of check-ups, what medications you're on, that sort of thing. When you say you think it would benefit you both, do you have specific goals in mind?
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    This might sound ridiculous, but have you checked that she actually wants to make any sort of change to herself? You're stating you find that she's overweight, is this actually something she wants to change, or something you want to change about her? (aka you're assuming the gym/losing weight is necessary, but...it's not always.)
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    Your question is missing some crucial information: Is your goal to get her to lose weight or do you just want someone to go down the gym with you?
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I've recently started dating a girl and we're an item, and are happy hanging out together. We have strong feelings for each other.



She is somewhat overweight (not hugely so but not at a healthy weight) and I am a little overweight. Although I do some exercise, usually playing squash and walking, I could still do with working out at the gym more. I would probably want to do mostly weight training, but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym membership lapse as a result.



I think it would hugely benefit both of us to go to the gym at least twice a week and I think a great solution would be for her to be my gym buddy. The trouble is I know she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight.



I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity, but I fear that asking her to be my gym buddy would be interpreted by her as "I find you fat and ugly" which is not true at all. I simply think it is a good thing in general to keep fit. At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.



So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes? I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym and arrange to go maybe 2 days a week to work out for an hour each time.







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I've recently started dating a girl and we're an item, and are happy hanging out together. We have strong feelings for each other.



She is somewhat overweight (not hugely so but not at a healthy weight) and I am a little overweight. Although I do some exercise, usually playing squash and walking, I could still do with working out at the gym more. I would probably want to do mostly weight training, but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym membership lapse as a result.



I think it would hugely benefit both of us to go to the gym at least twice a week and I think a great solution would be for her to be my gym buddy. The trouble is I know she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight.



I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity, but I fear that asking her to be my gym buddy would be interpreted by her as "I find you fat and ugly" which is not true at all. I simply think it is a good thing in general to keep fit. At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.



So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes? I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym and arrange to go maybe 2 days a week to work out for an hour each time.









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    You say "recently" - do you feel there's enough trust there that you can be open about this sort of thing and have her completely believe you? Or are you still at the stage where, though she has strong feelings for you, she may not know you quite well enough for that?
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    Please don’t write answers in comments. It bypasses our quality measures by not having voting (both up and down) available on comments, as well as having other problems detailed on meta. Comments are for clarifying and improving the question; please don’t use them for other purposes.
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    I have some thoughts but need to know: When you say but not at a healthy weight is that something she has said herself? Does she currently have any health issues that are impacted by her weight? Do you currently talk to each other about your health issues? I don't mean temporary stuff like having the flu, I mean do you tell each other about the results of check-ups, what medications you're on, that sort of thing. When you say you think it would benefit you both, do you have specific goals in mind?
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    This might sound ridiculous, but have you checked that she actually wants to make any sort of change to herself? You're stating you find that she's overweight, is this actually something she wants to change, or something you want to change about her? (aka you're assuming the gym/losing weight is necessary, but...it's not always.)
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    Your question is missing some crucial information: Is your goal to get her to lose weight or do you just want someone to go down the gym with you?
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    You say "recently" - do you feel there's enough trust there that you can be open about this sort of thing and have her completely believe you? Or are you still at the stage where, though she has strong feelings for you, she may not know you quite well enough for that?
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    I have some thoughts but need to know: When you say but not at a healthy weight is that something she has said herself? Does she currently have any health issues that are impacted by her weight? Do you currently talk to each other about your health issues? I don't mean temporary stuff like having the flu, I mean do you tell each other about the results of check-ups, what medications you're on, that sort of thing. When you say you think it would benefit you both, do you have specific goals in mind?
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    This might sound ridiculous, but have you checked that she actually wants to make any sort of change to herself? You're stating you find that she's overweight, is this actually something she wants to change, or something you want to change about her? (aka you're assuming the gym/losing weight is necessary, but...it's not always.)
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    Your question is missing some crucial information: Is your goal to get her to lose weight or do you just want someone to go down the gym with you?
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You say "recently" - do you feel there's enough trust there that you can be open about this sort of thing and have her completely believe you? Or are you still at the stage where, though she has strong feelings for you, she may not know you quite well enough for that?
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You say "recently" - do you feel there's enough trust there that you can be open about this sort of thing and have her completely believe you? Or are you still at the stage where, though she has strong feelings for you, she may not know you quite well enough for that?
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I have some thoughts but need to know: When you say but not at a healthy weight is that something she has said herself? Does she currently have any health issues that are impacted by her weight? Do you currently talk to each other about your health issues? I don't mean temporary stuff like having the flu, I mean do you tell each other about the results of check-ups, what medications you're on, that sort of thing. When you say you think it would benefit you both, do you have specific goals in mind?
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I have some thoughts but need to know: When you say but not at a healthy weight is that something she has said herself? Does she currently have any health issues that are impacted by her weight? Do you currently talk to each other about your health issues? I don't mean temporary stuff like having the flu, I mean do you tell each other about the results of check-ups, what medications you're on, that sort of thing. When you say you think it would benefit you both, do you have specific goals in mind?
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This might sound ridiculous, but have you checked that she actually wants to make any sort of change to herself? You're stating you find that she's overweight, is this actually something she wants to change, or something you want to change about her? (aka you're assuming the gym/losing weight is necessary, but...it's not always.)
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This might sound ridiculous, but have you checked that she actually wants to make any sort of change to herself? You're stating you find that she's overweight, is this actually something she wants to change, or something you want to change about her? (aka you're assuming the gym/losing weight is necessary, but...it's not always.)
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Make it about you and not about her. In other words, tell her that you want to go to the gym more often but have trouble getting the motivation, and it would really help you get there and work out if she would be your buddy and go with you. That should remove a lot of her anxiety and have her feeling good about helping you out.



I've found that it is much easier to work out when I know I have a buddy relying on me. I covered a lot of miles running through ice and snow and heat and rain solely because I didn't want to disappoint the person I was going to run with. You've probably had some similar experiences, even if it wasn't exercise, where you did something good for yourself because you were partnered up. Think about that and have that ready when you discuss it with your girlfriend. Again, making it about you having it easier to work out if she's willing to help out.



If your girlfriend is uncomfortable with her appearance she may not want to change and shower at the gym. For that matter, depending on the state of the gym shower, you might not want to either. You could say something like "might be easier for me if I changed and showered at home" and see how that flies. If she tells you no way she is leaving the gym sweaty and smelly, then you know that isn't an issue for her.



She may also be more at ease if you don't go full on with buying a long term membership right away. Maybe just do some day passes. I know the theory is that if you buy a membership, you'll feel compelled to use it, but if you are already stressed about going, that may add even more stress. And if you have several options for gyms, buying day passes lets you try out a couple of different ones till you find one that feels right.



Some of the other answers to this question say that the OP should not try to help his girlfriend with her insecurity about her weight and appearance, and that by doing so, he is "body-shaming" her. However, the OP says his girlfriend is extremely insecure about her weight, to the point where he has to reassure her that he finds her attractive. Her insecurity is a relationship problem. Exercising and becoming fitter is a well known way to increase self-esteem.



As someone who was the "fat kid" that was bullied in school, I can personally speak to this. A buddy helped me get an exercise program started so I could train for a 7 mile race. That turned my life around and completely changed my self image.






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    I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
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    @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
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    @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
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  • I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
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Instead of just going to the gym, try to find a physical activity you both will enjoy doing together.



Rock climbing is a great activity to get in shape, lose weight, and build confidence. If there is an indoor climbing gym in your area, I suggest you two go and check it out.



Or try to join an adult softball, kickball, soccer, etc. league.



This way, you're not saying "Let's go workout because we're overweight", rather you’re saying, "Let's go do a fun activity together that gets us up and moving!"



I do understand that she may be unwilling to partake in these types of activities due to her weight and insecurity (I have a friend who refuses* to go climbing because she doesn't want to be, "the fat girl").



To overcome these types of objections, I usually reply, "No one will really notice or care, they're doing their own thing" or I've even said, "everyone will actually be impressed because they know you have to work harder than them!"



Another thing brought up in the comments is that you both may find motivation to start going to the gym after partaking in these physical activities for a period of time. I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve my climbing. I'm much more motivated to workout to improve my strength and ability rather than lose weight or look a certain way.



*I actually got her to go climbing last weekend and it went really well. She didn't feel uncomfortable and actually enjoyed it.






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    While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
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    @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
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    OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
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    I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
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    @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
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For even lightly insecure people, a gym is a very intimidating place. Unless she want's to go herself and has expressed such a desire, you're unlikely to convince her to go straight to the gym. Been there, believe me ;)



You're better off asking her to join you on your outside routines first, walking, biking, etc. Then start preparing some of the meals on your plan.



Next, try some of your workouts at home. All you need is a few dumbbells or resistance bands. You can ask her to spot you then....try it herself.



When exercising isn't scary, the gym isn't too scary either.






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    Many people think that working out implies your current body is ugly; you want to break that idea. I think your explanation in your OP does a pretty good job; I wouldn't be afraid to just be up front and honest about it.



    List of things I told my GF to convince her to train with me:



    • there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve. I told her I like the
      way my body looks but still enjoy working out everyday and seeing how
      my body improves.

    • because I workout everyday, and she often ended up waiting while I
      was busy, we would be able to spend more time together.

    • it would be fun to have a hobby we could share and do together.

    • I'm very attracted to her and like the way she looked (I've told her
      this many times)

    • because she already looks perfect to me, it would drive me crazy if
      she improved herself even more

    If I were you, I'd lead by setting an example. Don't wait for her to start working out! A gym buddy is nice, but don't 100% rely on him/her; that's setting yourself up for excuses ("can't workout today because x is not coming").



    By the way, a strength-based routine is pretty unisex, so that could be fun to do together!






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    • Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
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      @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
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      @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
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    My mum (a professional preschool teacher) believed in offering choices -- never a choice like, "Do you want to wear a shirt today?", but rather, "Which shirt do you want to wear to school today: this blue one, or this green one?"



    IOW she'd offer a choice between whichever alternatives were all acceptable to her.



    Similarly your GF might like a choice -- and not just, "go to the gym!", but rather, "What would you like to do for exercise, healthy fun and games, with me? We could go jogging, cycling, swimming, go the gym, learn a martial art, take dance lessons, join a soccer team, (etc.)"



    I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym



    Instead maybe try different activities until you find one she likes.



    Apparently even you don't like the gym; so...






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      Ask her out for ice cream!



      That might sound flippant, but I'm not kidding. Point in case:



      • A few friends and I decided we'd do park runs together on a weekly basis... we went once.


      • A few friends and I decided we'd do breakfast together on a weekly basis, but do a park run first. Some of us have cleared 50 runs and are well on our way to 100; the others keep forgetting their bar codes (so the runs don't count). We run as a group chatting mostly supporting the slowest (after all the fittest can handle running for longer). If the route repeats whoever is tired can opt to skip the second round, but it happens rarely.


      While the above is written quite tongue in cheek it is quite true and the rationale is actually quite solid. No one wants to go do a negative activity, but everyone one wants to do a positive one; more so after doing a negative one. So ask her if she'd like to do something fun, but mention that there is a caveat, namely before you do the fun thing you have to do some form of exercise.



      There was a really good talk by Dan Arielly (a psychologist/economist) on how to motivate someone to do something they don't want to; in it he talks about how he motivated taking some form of medication that messed you up for the evening. I can't find it now, but it boils down to do something fun after doing something less so.



      Consider both her and your point of view, would you prefer going to some gym or would you prefer a jog to the nearby coffee shop for a chat about your day and a big ol' piece of cake?



      *Update : It, would appear that I hadn't explicitly tackled the insecurities of the girlfriend in my response, and this was deliberate. The implication I was aiming for in my answer was that by asking her to do something positive with you it indicates your interest in getting to know her, it improves the relationship, and bypasses her connotations associated with the gym. Saying "Let's have ice cream" bypasses any concerns about her/your physique. Saying let's exercise beforehand sets a challenge you both must complete to get a treat.



      It turns the whole thing around from "I think you're a plump little duck let's hang out with mechanical devices and strangers to change that" to "Hey!! Fun idea, let's waddle to the pond and watch the willows and reeds sway in the wind as the sun sets". That is, let us do something crappy, hard and really miserable, but celebrate out accomplishments together afterwards, heck knows I need it, but I sure don't want to do it.



      After all, the gym may be your end goal, but it does not mean it's hers. Taking it easy at first with some alternative activity lets you surreptitiously ease into an exercise routine and before you know it she gets keen on the fitness thing and asks if you'd consider gym after a few weeks.*






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        Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
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      • @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
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        @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
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        I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
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      • It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
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      On how to convince her, you might want to approach the issue on the fun way rather than the healthy one - tell her about the pleasant feeling soreness brings, how she'll feel she has more energy, how you're gonna spend more time together, committing on a common activity. Tell her that you need someone to motivate yourself, as you just told us. People are way more likely to go something good if it serves other rather than just themselves.



      What I also found helpful to convince my SO to go to the gym with me is to subscribe to a duet formula - you pay for one, you bring a buddy - whoever they are, whenever you feel like it. These formulae are way cheaper than two regular subscriptions (and only slightly more expensive than one regular formula) so it'd make your girlfriend more comfortable and less afraid of wasting money (if that's something that bothers her).






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        Allow me to challenge this one a little. You have decided, seemingly independent of her, that she needs to make a change based on your view of her body.



        (Note: I'm a 300ish lb female-presenting human. I do work out now, but not to lose any weight, I just like the idea of lifting lots of stuff. That said, for years I didn't do a whole lot beyond walking (because I take transit everywhere), and was perfectly healthy by my doctor's metrics and could still do pretty much anything I wanted that didn't have a weight limit, like ziplining etc.)



        You might not be happy with your body, and that's fine, its the meatsack you're stuck with, you're welcome to decide to treat it as you like. But assuming that because you think she's overweight, she needs to go to the gym and workout and change that, and therefore she has to be approached carefully so you can convince her to do what you think is right for her body seems...not entirely fair.



        She's well within her rights to be upset and hurt if you tell her she needs to change herself. Just because she is overweight based on your opinions of what that looks like, doesn't mean it's actually something that actively needs to change - being of larger body proportions doesn't necessarily guarantee that she's not fit, or not healthy.



        So perhaps, you might want to rethink this - you seem to want to find a way to spend time together in a more active sense, and that's a laudable goal, as long as both people want to do it. Has she expressed any interest in what you do at the gym? Or has she mentioned any other sort of "active" activity that you might better enjoy, because you're doing it because it's fun and not because you think she needs to lose weight, and therefore pushing her this way is going to make her miserable, and thus potentially resent not only the workouts, but you for making her feel inadequate because she has to do this?



        I get it - we all want what's best for our partners, but we also need to realize that what we think is best for ourselves is not always best for others. She might have her own very valid reasons for being the size she is, or for not wanting to do the gym thing. You need to respect that.






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          Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
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        • As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
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        I'm gonna go counter to the other answers; most are focusing on how to ask her to the gym, I'm gonna focus on whether you should.



        I've been there: you love someone so much that it hurts to see them not take care of them self. More than once I've lost relationships because I pushed someone I loved against their insecurities and broke their trust. It's especially tricky when the person you love struggles with self-esteem because it's so easy to send them into a spiral of self-doubt.



        You say:




        She is somewhat overweight ... At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.




        I know you mean well and you're trying hard not to make this seem like judgment and body-shame, but is it? I suspect that if she chooses to see it that way, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



        Moreover, you are looking for ways to talk her into something that you suspect she won't respond well to. If she chooses to see that as manipulation, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



        As someone's been there, especially if there are self-esteem issues at play, you need to be really really careful around things that can be perceived as manipulative / judgmental.




        I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem




        Don't. It's not your job to think for her. As her boyfriend, your job, above all else, is to be her cheerleader not her coach. That's how she'll come to trust that she can be herself and tell you anything without fear of judgment.



        Be comfortable with the person she is and find aspects of that to be genuine about celebrating. If she decides to take up a physical activity, celebrate and praise like crazy, but I would advise against trying to change her or manipulate her into it.






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          Make your invitation be about enjoying her company, not about working out. Tell her you like spending time with her and would enjoy her company if she felt like going to the gym with you. Word it as an invitation rather than a request, with a tone of voice and choice of words that make it clear that it's OK if she doesn't want to go. You are saying what you would enjoy (her company), and then giving her the freedom to make her own choice.



          If she says no, or seems hesitant, tell her it's OK (and mean it). But you can repeat the invitation now and again, with kindness and sincerity and an utter lack of pressure.



          This way you've removed the workout from the request. It's about spending time with her, and that time would be at the gym, but the gym is not the focus. The time you spend together is the focus. Overweight people have to live with constant judgement and with people trying to control their weight for them. By making your request be about spending time with her, you've made sure that you're not giving her the impression that you, too have fallen into the trap of trying to control her weight.



          Another thing to keep in mind is that the relationship between exercise and weight loss is complicated and not clear cut. Exercising does not guarantee weight loss. See, for example: The science is in: exercise won’t help you lose much weight. There are many good reasons to go to the gym, of course--fitness is about much more than just weight. This is another reason to make sure that your invitation is only about spending time with her, and not at all about weight. If she does go with you, she may not lose any weight, or much weight, so make sure that weight is not the reason you are inviting her.






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            +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
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          Take smaller steps.



          First ask to go for a walk around the park, or to somewhere several blocks away. You don't want to take a bus, car, or your own vehicles; perhaps bike riding is OK, and a smaller step.



          Second explain that you go jogging for half an hour on particular days, ask that she join you. Next tell her you jog for an hour on a different day, and she should come along; you'd really enjoy her company.



          Next up is the gym, where it's a big step up and sounds like a commitment.



          If she won't engage in limited healthy activity with you she's not going to go to the gym.



          Sometimes the gym is too regimented and one must bear public scrutiny, this can be too much for someone whom is self-conscious and interference by others even when one is fit is often not well received.



          Maybe you live in an apartment with a gym that is unused or there's a couples class for family exercise (that doesn't make it sound like you are proposing).



          Don't make each step a big deal, and don't heap praise on her for accomplishing some goal. Don't take the enjoyment out of doing something useful together that you both want to do.






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            Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
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          but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym
          membership lapse as a result.




          If you just want someone to go down the gym with you, just try to find someone else who will go with you, it sounds like it would be a lot easier and less painful for both of you.




          If your objective is to make your GF lose weight, then stop and actually ask her if she actually wants to lose weight.



          If she doesn't want to lose weight then don't try to force her to lose weight - accept her as she is. If you don't like her being overweight and you feel the need to change that then you might want to think whether you actually want to be in a relationship with her or not.



          If she does want to lose weight but doesn't want to go down the gym then find a different way to do it. Pick a physical activity that you can both do and enjoy without thinking about the fact you're losing weight, or perhaps do something in private so she doesn't have to worry about a load of strangers passing judgement on her, e.g. get a rowing machine or a treadmill.





          I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym
          regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase
          her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity




          I'd be interested to know why you think this.



          Insecurity about appearance doesn't come from being stereotypically ugly, it comes from fear of other people's opinions and fear of judgement by society for not being stereotypically attractive. Some people can look as stereotypically pretty as possible and still be insecure about their appearance. Often the best answer is not to change one's appearance, but to change one's outlook.



          I qualify 'stereotypically' here, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People find different features attractive, i.e. there are people who find overweight people attractive and skinny people unattractive despite that not being the social norm.




          So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting
          her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes?




          To reiterate, you can't make her go unless she actually wants to. You need to ask yourself "why do I want her to do to the gym?".



          If the answer is "for health reasons" then make sure you're not jumping the gun, she might already be adequately healthy, often diet is a bigger contributor to health than how active someone is. If she is unhealthy then you still need to ask if she wants to be healthy (not everyone cares about their health), and if she does then the answer isn't necessarily the gym - you should consult a health professional.



          If the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "to improve her self esteem" then consider seeing a psychiatrist/councellor instead. Self esteem problems are usually psychological issues that won't go away just by looking stereotypically attractive. Even stereotypically attractive people can have self esteem issues, self esteem is a psychological phenomenon, not a physical one. Self esteem issues are typically created from a mixture of the internal problem having a negative outlook on life and the external problem of society being judgemental.



          And of course if the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "because she's fat" then you really need to reevaluate why you're in this relationship. Getting into a relationship and then trying to change your partner isn't healthy. The point of a relationship is to be with someone you like, not to find someone and then try to turn them into what you want them to be.






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          • This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
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          • @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
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          I would stay clear from the thought that you somehow know what is good/best for her or for you both and that you have to convince her.



          Remind yourself that you are together with her, you are an "item". You are not responsible for her in any way. Feeling responsibility for the other is a sure recipe for disaster, since it introduces a kind of "power slope" between you and her - even if only in your own mind. Especially her body... that's her own responsibility for sure.



          To your question: simply go to the gym and ask her to come with you. Forget about your weights, that is inconsequential (or even harmful). Tell her that you want to spend the time with her, that you want to have a common activity, that it is boring without her, that you would love to have the "buddy" factor, that being "two" would be huge for your own motivation, and so on.



          Many people need artificial motivation to go to the gym, an easy one is gaming yourself with numbers (weights, duration, whatever). This works well for pairs as well, you can get a healthy competition going (not for absolute numbers, i.e., who can raise more weight, but to cheer each other on when, not if, motivation goes away).



          Don't even mention weights. If she mentions that she is to overweight for going to the gym, then handle that (make her aware that most people in a gym don't care a bit about other people, nobody will think bad about anyone, you yourself are overweight too, and so on).



          All of this assumes that there is even the slightest chance that she would actually enjoy the activity. If you already know that she does not like the general idea of gyms (i.e., the actual sport activity that is done there), then don't bother. In that case, just go on your own, enjoy it, and be done with it. Remove any rankling feelings about missing an opportunity to help her or something like that. You are not her daddy...






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            Make it about you and not about her. In other words, tell her that you want to go to the gym more often but have trouble getting the motivation, and it would really help you get there and work out if she would be your buddy and go with you. That should remove a lot of her anxiety and have her feeling good about helping you out.



            I've found that it is much easier to work out when I know I have a buddy relying on me. I covered a lot of miles running through ice and snow and heat and rain solely because I didn't want to disappoint the person I was going to run with. You've probably had some similar experiences, even if it wasn't exercise, where you did something good for yourself because you were partnered up. Think about that and have that ready when you discuss it with your girlfriend. Again, making it about you having it easier to work out if she's willing to help out.



            If your girlfriend is uncomfortable with her appearance she may not want to change and shower at the gym. For that matter, depending on the state of the gym shower, you might not want to either. You could say something like "might be easier for me if I changed and showered at home" and see how that flies. If she tells you no way she is leaving the gym sweaty and smelly, then you know that isn't an issue for her.



            She may also be more at ease if you don't go full on with buying a long term membership right away. Maybe just do some day passes. I know the theory is that if you buy a membership, you'll feel compelled to use it, but if you are already stressed about going, that may add even more stress. And if you have several options for gyms, buying day passes lets you try out a couple of different ones till you find one that feels right.



            Some of the other answers to this question say that the OP should not try to help his girlfriend with her insecurity about her weight and appearance, and that by doing so, he is "body-shaming" her. However, the OP says his girlfriend is extremely insecure about her weight, to the point where he has to reassure her that he finds her attractive. Her insecurity is a relationship problem. Exercising and becoming fitter is a well known way to increase self-esteem.



            As someone who was the "fat kid" that was bullied in school, I can personally speak to this. A buddy helped me get an exercise program started so I could train for a 7 mile race. That turned my life around and completely changed my self image.






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              I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
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              @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
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              @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
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            • I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
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            Make it about you and not about her. In other words, tell her that you want to go to the gym more often but have trouble getting the motivation, and it would really help you get there and work out if she would be your buddy and go with you. That should remove a lot of her anxiety and have her feeling good about helping you out.



            I've found that it is much easier to work out when I know I have a buddy relying on me. I covered a lot of miles running through ice and snow and heat and rain solely because I didn't want to disappoint the person I was going to run with. You've probably had some similar experiences, even if it wasn't exercise, where you did something good for yourself because you were partnered up. Think about that and have that ready when you discuss it with your girlfriend. Again, making it about you having it easier to work out if she's willing to help out.



            If your girlfriend is uncomfortable with her appearance she may not want to change and shower at the gym. For that matter, depending on the state of the gym shower, you might not want to either. You could say something like "might be easier for me if I changed and showered at home" and see how that flies. If she tells you no way she is leaving the gym sweaty and smelly, then you know that isn't an issue for her.



            She may also be more at ease if you don't go full on with buying a long term membership right away. Maybe just do some day passes. I know the theory is that if you buy a membership, you'll feel compelled to use it, but if you are already stressed about going, that may add even more stress. And if you have several options for gyms, buying day passes lets you try out a couple of different ones till you find one that feels right.



            Some of the other answers to this question say that the OP should not try to help his girlfriend with her insecurity about her weight and appearance, and that by doing so, he is "body-shaming" her. However, the OP says his girlfriend is extremely insecure about her weight, to the point where he has to reassure her that he finds her attractive. Her insecurity is a relationship problem. Exercising and becoming fitter is a well known way to increase self-esteem.



            As someone who was the "fat kid" that was bullied in school, I can personally speak to this. A buddy helped me get an exercise program started so I could train for a 7 mile race. That turned my life around and completely changed my self image.






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              I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
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              @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
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              @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
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            • I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
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            Make it about you and not about her. In other words, tell her that you want to go to the gym more often but have trouble getting the motivation, and it would really help you get there and work out if she would be your buddy and go with you. That should remove a lot of her anxiety and have her feeling good about helping you out.



            I've found that it is much easier to work out when I know I have a buddy relying on me. I covered a lot of miles running through ice and snow and heat and rain solely because I didn't want to disappoint the person I was going to run with. You've probably had some similar experiences, even if it wasn't exercise, where you did something good for yourself because you were partnered up. Think about that and have that ready when you discuss it with your girlfriend. Again, making it about you having it easier to work out if she's willing to help out.



            If your girlfriend is uncomfortable with her appearance she may not want to change and shower at the gym. For that matter, depending on the state of the gym shower, you might not want to either. You could say something like "might be easier for me if I changed and showered at home" and see how that flies. If she tells you no way she is leaving the gym sweaty and smelly, then you know that isn't an issue for her.



            She may also be more at ease if you don't go full on with buying a long term membership right away. Maybe just do some day passes. I know the theory is that if you buy a membership, you'll feel compelled to use it, but if you are already stressed about going, that may add even more stress. And if you have several options for gyms, buying day passes lets you try out a couple of different ones till you find one that feels right.



            Some of the other answers to this question say that the OP should not try to help his girlfriend with her insecurity about her weight and appearance, and that by doing so, he is "body-shaming" her. However, the OP says his girlfriend is extremely insecure about her weight, to the point where he has to reassure her that he finds her attractive. Her insecurity is a relationship problem. Exercising and becoming fitter is a well known way to increase self-esteem.



            As someone who was the "fat kid" that was bullied in school, I can personally speak to this. A buddy helped me get an exercise program started so I could train for a 7 mile race. That turned my life around and completely changed my self image.






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            Make it about you and not about her. In other words, tell her that you want to go to the gym more often but have trouble getting the motivation, and it would really help you get there and work out if she would be your buddy and go with you. That should remove a lot of her anxiety and have her feeling good about helping you out.



            I've found that it is much easier to work out when I know I have a buddy relying on me. I covered a lot of miles running through ice and snow and heat and rain solely because I didn't want to disappoint the person I was going to run with. You've probably had some similar experiences, even if it wasn't exercise, where you did something good for yourself because you were partnered up. Think about that and have that ready when you discuss it with your girlfriend. Again, making it about you having it easier to work out if she's willing to help out.



            If your girlfriend is uncomfortable with her appearance she may not want to change and shower at the gym. For that matter, depending on the state of the gym shower, you might not want to either. You could say something like "might be easier for me if I changed and showered at home" and see how that flies. If she tells you no way she is leaving the gym sweaty and smelly, then you know that isn't an issue for her.



            She may also be more at ease if you don't go full on with buying a long term membership right away. Maybe just do some day passes. I know the theory is that if you buy a membership, you'll feel compelled to use it, but if you are already stressed about going, that may add even more stress. And if you have several options for gyms, buying day passes lets you try out a couple of different ones till you find one that feels right.



            Some of the other answers to this question say that the OP should not try to help his girlfriend with her insecurity about her weight and appearance, and that by doing so, he is "body-shaming" her. However, the OP says his girlfriend is extremely insecure about her weight, to the point where he has to reassure her that he finds her attractive. Her insecurity is a relationship problem. Exercising and becoming fitter is a well known way to increase self-esteem.



            As someone who was the "fat kid" that was bullied in school, I can personally speak to this. A buddy helped me get an exercise program started so I could train for a 7 mile race. That turned my life around and completely changed my self image.







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              I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
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              @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
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              @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
              – Cascabel
              Aug 24 at 15:32










            • I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
              – user1760
              Aug 29 at 1:53












            • 50




              I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
              – Cascabel
              Aug 23 at 16:12






            • 5




              @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
              – Pierre Arlaud
              Aug 24 at 14:38






            • 6




              @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
              – Cascabel
              Aug 24 at 15:32










            • I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
              – user1760
              Aug 29 at 1:53







            50




            50




            I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
            – Cascabel
            Aug 23 at 16:12




            I think this is a good starting point, but she is also going to know exactly what the OP is trying to do, and while it provides motivation to try to compete with her insecurities, it doesn't exactly reduce those insecurities, and they sound quite significant. Do you have any suggestions to address that?
            – Cascabel
            Aug 23 at 16:12




            5




            5




            @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
            – Pierre Arlaud
            Aug 24 at 14:38




            @Cascabel I think that's another question. I'd say the goal here is to convince her to go to the gym, not to help her deal with her insecurities.
            – Pierre Arlaud
            Aug 24 at 14:38




            6




            6




            @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
            – Cascabel
            Aug 24 at 15:32




            @PierreArlaud I'm suggesting addressing this in the answer because it's very much part of this question. When the OP asks her to go to the gym, it's going to cut right to all those insecurities, and if they aren't addressed, she's going to say no, and her feelings are going to be hurt.
            – Cascabel
            Aug 24 at 15:32












            I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
            – user1760
            Aug 29 at 1:53




            I like this answer, but you haven't been in a woman's locker room at a gym, have you? This lady will feel good about herself when she sees some of the other ladies.
            – user1760
            Aug 29 at 1:53










            up vote
            45
            down vote













            Instead of just going to the gym, try to find a physical activity you both will enjoy doing together.



            Rock climbing is a great activity to get in shape, lose weight, and build confidence. If there is an indoor climbing gym in your area, I suggest you two go and check it out.



            Or try to join an adult softball, kickball, soccer, etc. league.



            This way, you're not saying "Let's go workout because we're overweight", rather you’re saying, "Let's go do a fun activity together that gets us up and moving!"



            I do understand that she may be unwilling to partake in these types of activities due to her weight and insecurity (I have a friend who refuses* to go climbing because she doesn't want to be, "the fat girl").



            To overcome these types of objections, I usually reply, "No one will really notice or care, they're doing their own thing" or I've even said, "everyone will actually be impressed because they know you have to work harder than them!"



            Another thing brought up in the comments is that you both may find motivation to start going to the gym after partaking in these physical activities for a period of time. I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve my climbing. I'm much more motivated to workout to improve my strength and ability rather than lose weight or look a certain way.



            *I actually got her to go climbing last weekend and it went really well. She didn't feel uncomfortable and actually enjoyed it.






            share|improve this answer


















            • 9




              While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
              – Clay07g
              Aug 23 at 17:12






            • 4




              @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
              – cheshire
              Aug 23 at 17:26






            • 3




              OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
              – pipe
              Aug 23 at 19:59






            • 12




              I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
              – Kami
              Aug 24 at 11:46






            • 3




              @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
              – cheshire
              Aug 24 at 19:58














            up vote
            45
            down vote













            Instead of just going to the gym, try to find a physical activity you both will enjoy doing together.



            Rock climbing is a great activity to get in shape, lose weight, and build confidence. If there is an indoor climbing gym in your area, I suggest you two go and check it out.



            Or try to join an adult softball, kickball, soccer, etc. league.



            This way, you're not saying "Let's go workout because we're overweight", rather you’re saying, "Let's go do a fun activity together that gets us up and moving!"



            I do understand that she may be unwilling to partake in these types of activities due to her weight and insecurity (I have a friend who refuses* to go climbing because she doesn't want to be, "the fat girl").



            To overcome these types of objections, I usually reply, "No one will really notice or care, they're doing their own thing" or I've even said, "everyone will actually be impressed because they know you have to work harder than them!"



            Another thing brought up in the comments is that you both may find motivation to start going to the gym after partaking in these physical activities for a period of time. I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve my climbing. I'm much more motivated to workout to improve my strength and ability rather than lose weight or look a certain way.



            *I actually got her to go climbing last weekend and it went really well. She didn't feel uncomfortable and actually enjoyed it.






            share|improve this answer


















            • 9




              While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
              – Clay07g
              Aug 23 at 17:12






            • 4




              @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
              – cheshire
              Aug 23 at 17:26






            • 3




              OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
              – pipe
              Aug 23 at 19:59






            • 12




              I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
              – Kami
              Aug 24 at 11:46






            • 3




              @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
              – cheshire
              Aug 24 at 19:58












            up vote
            45
            down vote










            up vote
            45
            down vote









            Instead of just going to the gym, try to find a physical activity you both will enjoy doing together.



            Rock climbing is a great activity to get in shape, lose weight, and build confidence. If there is an indoor climbing gym in your area, I suggest you two go and check it out.



            Or try to join an adult softball, kickball, soccer, etc. league.



            This way, you're not saying "Let's go workout because we're overweight", rather you’re saying, "Let's go do a fun activity together that gets us up and moving!"



            I do understand that she may be unwilling to partake in these types of activities due to her weight and insecurity (I have a friend who refuses* to go climbing because she doesn't want to be, "the fat girl").



            To overcome these types of objections, I usually reply, "No one will really notice or care, they're doing their own thing" or I've even said, "everyone will actually be impressed because they know you have to work harder than them!"



            Another thing brought up in the comments is that you both may find motivation to start going to the gym after partaking in these physical activities for a period of time. I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve my climbing. I'm much more motivated to workout to improve my strength and ability rather than lose weight or look a certain way.



            *I actually got her to go climbing last weekend and it went really well. She didn't feel uncomfortable and actually enjoyed it.






            share|improve this answer














            Instead of just going to the gym, try to find a physical activity you both will enjoy doing together.



            Rock climbing is a great activity to get in shape, lose weight, and build confidence. If there is an indoor climbing gym in your area, I suggest you two go and check it out.



            Or try to join an adult softball, kickball, soccer, etc. league.



            This way, you're not saying "Let's go workout because we're overweight", rather you’re saying, "Let's go do a fun activity together that gets us up and moving!"



            I do understand that she may be unwilling to partake in these types of activities due to her weight and insecurity (I have a friend who refuses* to go climbing because she doesn't want to be, "the fat girl").



            To overcome these types of objections, I usually reply, "No one will really notice or care, they're doing their own thing" or I've even said, "everyone will actually be impressed because they know you have to work harder than them!"



            Another thing brought up in the comments is that you both may find motivation to start going to the gym after partaking in these physical activities for a period of time. I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve my climbing. I'm much more motivated to workout to improve my strength and ability rather than lose weight or look a certain way.



            *I actually got her to go climbing last weekend and it went really well. She didn't feel uncomfortable and actually enjoyed it.







            share|improve this answer














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            edited Aug 27 at 9:39









            Tim

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            answered Aug 23 at 14:55









            cheshire

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              While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
              – Clay07g
              Aug 23 at 17:12






            • 4




              @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
              – cheshire
              Aug 23 at 17:26






            • 3




              OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
              – pipe
              Aug 23 at 19:59






            • 12




              I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
              – Kami
              Aug 24 at 11:46






            • 3




              @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
              – cheshire
              Aug 24 at 19:58












            • 9




              While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
              – Clay07g
              Aug 23 at 17:12






            • 4




              @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
              – cheshire
              Aug 23 at 17:26






            • 3




              OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
              – pipe
              Aug 23 at 19:59






            • 12




              I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
              – Kami
              Aug 24 at 11:46






            • 3




              @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
              – cheshire
              Aug 24 at 19:58







            9




            9




            While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
            – Clay07g
            Aug 23 at 17:12




            While there is nothing wrong with your advice, this doesn't actually try to answer the question of "How can I ask my girlfriend to be my gym buddy". It also sounds like OP's goal is to lose weight, not necessarily to have fun.
            – Clay07g
            Aug 23 at 17:12




            4




            4




            @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
            – cheshire
            Aug 23 at 17:26




            @Clay07g and OP will lose weight in a fun way. I knew this wasn't exactly an interpersonal solution but wanted to throw it out there as I don't particularly like going to the gym and get most my exercise through such activities (rock climbing got me in the best shape of my life).
            – cheshire
            Aug 23 at 17:26




            3




            3




            OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
            – pipe
            Aug 23 at 19:59




            OP never indicated that his girlfriend dislikes the gym, and your other activities are equally problematic as you even point out with an example. I don't see how this helps. (Also, Stack Exchange was created to get rid of "wanted to throw it out there" answers, because it's noise when someone is looking for actual answers to the actual question)
            – pipe
            Aug 23 at 19:59




            12




            12




            I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
            – Kami
            Aug 24 at 11:46




            I think this is actually a good solution and very much an interpersonal one. The fact is, gyms are intimidating places for the less-than-fit. OP has acknowledged struggling with motivation already and that's not going to be helped by trying to lure his GF to a place that triggers her insecurities. There's no guarantee he can commit to regular gym, let alone her. If the only real objective is improved fitness, OP may see suggesting a less potentially humiliating active hobby they can both genuinely look forward to taking part in as a good solution.
            – Kami
            Aug 24 at 11:46




            3




            3




            @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
            – cheshire
            Aug 24 at 19:58




            @JPhi1618 I'm glad you mention that. I was actually going to add on that I've started going to the gym to work on conditioning to improve in the activities I do. It's no longer about losing weight but about gaining strength to improve in my climbing ability which actually motivates me more than the weight loss ever did.
            – cheshire
            Aug 24 at 19:58










            up vote
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            For even lightly insecure people, a gym is a very intimidating place. Unless she want's to go herself and has expressed such a desire, you're unlikely to convince her to go straight to the gym. Been there, believe me ;)



            You're better off asking her to join you on your outside routines first, walking, biking, etc. Then start preparing some of the meals on your plan.



            Next, try some of your workouts at home. All you need is a few dumbbells or resistance bands. You can ask her to spot you then....try it herself.



            When exercising isn't scary, the gym isn't too scary either.






            share|improve this answer
























              up vote
              28
              down vote













              For even lightly insecure people, a gym is a very intimidating place. Unless she want's to go herself and has expressed such a desire, you're unlikely to convince her to go straight to the gym. Been there, believe me ;)



              You're better off asking her to join you on your outside routines first, walking, biking, etc. Then start preparing some of the meals on your plan.



              Next, try some of your workouts at home. All you need is a few dumbbells or resistance bands. You can ask her to spot you then....try it herself.



              When exercising isn't scary, the gym isn't too scary either.






              share|improve this answer






















                up vote
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                down vote










                up vote
                28
                down vote









                For even lightly insecure people, a gym is a very intimidating place. Unless she want's to go herself and has expressed such a desire, you're unlikely to convince her to go straight to the gym. Been there, believe me ;)



                You're better off asking her to join you on your outside routines first, walking, biking, etc. Then start preparing some of the meals on your plan.



                Next, try some of your workouts at home. All you need is a few dumbbells or resistance bands. You can ask her to spot you then....try it herself.



                When exercising isn't scary, the gym isn't too scary either.






                share|improve this answer












                For even lightly insecure people, a gym is a very intimidating place. Unless she want's to go herself and has expressed such a desire, you're unlikely to convince her to go straight to the gym. Been there, believe me ;)



                You're better off asking her to join you on your outside routines first, walking, biking, etc. Then start preparing some of the meals on your plan.



                Next, try some of your workouts at home. All you need is a few dumbbells or resistance bands. You can ask her to spot you then....try it herself.



                When exercising isn't scary, the gym isn't too scary either.







                share|improve this answer












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                answered Aug 23 at 17:54









                Johns-305

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                    Many people think that working out implies your current body is ugly; you want to break that idea. I think your explanation in your OP does a pretty good job; I wouldn't be afraid to just be up front and honest about it.



                    List of things I told my GF to convince her to train with me:



                    • there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve. I told her I like the
                      way my body looks but still enjoy working out everyday and seeing how
                      my body improves.

                    • because I workout everyday, and she often ended up waiting while I
                      was busy, we would be able to spend more time together.

                    • it would be fun to have a hobby we could share and do together.

                    • I'm very attracted to her and like the way she looked (I've told her
                      this many times)

                    • because she already looks perfect to me, it would drive me crazy if
                      she improved herself even more

                    If I were you, I'd lead by setting an example. Don't wait for her to start working out! A gym buddy is nice, but don't 100% rely on him/her; that's setting yourself up for excuses ("can't workout today because x is not coming").



                    By the way, a strength-based routine is pretty unisex, so that could be fun to do together!






                    share|improve this answer






















                    • Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
                      – MrSmith
                      Aug 23 at 16:21






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                      @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
                      – Clay07g
                      Aug 23 at 17:06







                    • 1




                      @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
                      – Pablo
                      Aug 23 at 18:53















                    up vote
                    11
                    down vote













                    Many people think that working out implies your current body is ugly; you want to break that idea. I think your explanation in your OP does a pretty good job; I wouldn't be afraid to just be up front and honest about it.



                    List of things I told my GF to convince her to train with me:



                    • there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve. I told her I like the
                      way my body looks but still enjoy working out everyday and seeing how
                      my body improves.

                    • because I workout everyday, and she often ended up waiting while I
                      was busy, we would be able to spend more time together.

                    • it would be fun to have a hobby we could share and do together.

                    • I'm very attracted to her and like the way she looked (I've told her
                      this many times)

                    • because she already looks perfect to me, it would drive me crazy if
                      she improved herself even more

                    If I were you, I'd lead by setting an example. Don't wait for her to start working out! A gym buddy is nice, but don't 100% rely on him/her; that's setting yourself up for excuses ("can't workout today because x is not coming").



                    By the way, a strength-based routine is pretty unisex, so that could be fun to do together!






                    share|improve this answer






















                    • Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
                      – MrSmith
                      Aug 23 at 16:21






                    • 13




                      @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
                      – Clay07g
                      Aug 23 at 17:06







                    • 1




                      @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
                      – Pablo
                      Aug 23 at 18:53













                    up vote
                    11
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    11
                    down vote









                    Many people think that working out implies your current body is ugly; you want to break that idea. I think your explanation in your OP does a pretty good job; I wouldn't be afraid to just be up front and honest about it.



                    List of things I told my GF to convince her to train with me:



                    • there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve. I told her I like the
                      way my body looks but still enjoy working out everyday and seeing how
                      my body improves.

                    • because I workout everyday, and she often ended up waiting while I
                      was busy, we would be able to spend more time together.

                    • it would be fun to have a hobby we could share and do together.

                    • I'm very attracted to her and like the way she looked (I've told her
                      this many times)

                    • because she already looks perfect to me, it would drive me crazy if
                      she improved herself even more

                    If I were you, I'd lead by setting an example. Don't wait for her to start working out! A gym buddy is nice, but don't 100% rely on him/her; that's setting yourself up for excuses ("can't workout today because x is not coming").



                    By the way, a strength-based routine is pretty unisex, so that could be fun to do together!






                    share|improve this answer














                    Many people think that working out implies your current body is ugly; you want to break that idea. I think your explanation in your OP does a pretty good job; I wouldn't be afraid to just be up front and honest about it.



                    List of things I told my GF to convince her to train with me:



                    • there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve. I told her I like the
                      way my body looks but still enjoy working out everyday and seeing how
                      my body improves.

                    • because I workout everyday, and she often ended up waiting while I
                      was busy, we would be able to spend more time together.

                    • it would be fun to have a hobby we could share and do together.

                    • I'm very attracted to her and like the way she looked (I've told her
                      this many times)

                    • because she already looks perfect to me, it would drive me crazy if
                      she improved herself even more

                    If I were you, I'd lead by setting an example. Don't wait for her to start working out! A gym buddy is nice, but don't 100% rely on him/her; that's setting yourself up for excuses ("can't workout today because x is not coming").



                    By the way, a strength-based routine is pretty unisex, so that could be fun to do together!







                    share|improve this answer














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                    • Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
                      – MrSmith
                      Aug 23 at 16:21






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                      @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
                      – Clay07g
                      Aug 23 at 17:06







                    • 1




                      @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
                      – Pablo
                      Aug 23 at 18:53

















                    • Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
                      – MrSmith
                      Aug 23 at 16:21






                    • 13




                      @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
                      – Clay07g
                      Aug 23 at 17:06







                    • 1




                      @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
                      – Pablo
                      Aug 23 at 18:53
















                    Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
                    – MrSmith
                    Aug 23 at 16:21




                    Isn't a strength-based routine more masculine? I'd have said cardiovascular was more unisex?
                    – MrSmith
                    Aug 23 at 16:21




                    13




                    13




                    @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
                    – Clay07g
                    Aug 23 at 17:06





                    @MrSmith There is nothing masculine nor feminine about improving your physical health. The common fear among women that strength training will make them look like a bulky man is a huge myth (in fact, building muscle is amazing for weight loss). As a general tip, people should choose exercises based on their personal preferences, goals, and body characteristics, certain not based on gender stereotypes.
                    – Clay07g
                    Aug 23 at 17:06





                    1




                    1




                    @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
                    – Pablo
                    Aug 23 at 18:53





                    @MrSmith beginner strength routine is nearly identical for male and female, you would obviously start with bigger weights and gain strength faster. Only after like 6 months you would move to program that's too much for her. But yeah cardio is fine too, just a bit boring imo. Goodluck!
                    – Pablo
                    Aug 23 at 18:53











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                    My mum (a professional preschool teacher) believed in offering choices -- never a choice like, "Do you want to wear a shirt today?", but rather, "Which shirt do you want to wear to school today: this blue one, or this green one?"



                    IOW she'd offer a choice between whichever alternatives were all acceptable to her.



                    Similarly your GF might like a choice -- and not just, "go to the gym!", but rather, "What would you like to do for exercise, healthy fun and games, with me? We could go jogging, cycling, swimming, go the gym, learn a martial art, take dance lessons, join a soccer team, (etc.)"



                    I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym



                    Instead maybe try different activities until you find one she likes.



                    Apparently even you don't like the gym; so...






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                      up vote
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                      down vote













                      My mum (a professional preschool teacher) believed in offering choices -- never a choice like, "Do you want to wear a shirt today?", but rather, "Which shirt do you want to wear to school today: this blue one, or this green one?"



                      IOW she'd offer a choice between whichever alternatives were all acceptable to her.



                      Similarly your GF might like a choice -- and not just, "go to the gym!", but rather, "What would you like to do for exercise, healthy fun and games, with me? We could go jogging, cycling, swimming, go the gym, learn a martial art, take dance lessons, join a soccer team, (etc.)"



                      I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym



                      Instead maybe try different activities until you find one she likes.



                      Apparently even you don't like the gym; so...






                      share|improve this answer






















                        up vote
                        6
                        down vote










                        up vote
                        6
                        down vote









                        My mum (a professional preschool teacher) believed in offering choices -- never a choice like, "Do you want to wear a shirt today?", but rather, "Which shirt do you want to wear to school today: this blue one, or this green one?"



                        IOW she'd offer a choice between whichever alternatives were all acceptable to her.



                        Similarly your GF might like a choice -- and not just, "go to the gym!", but rather, "What would you like to do for exercise, healthy fun and games, with me? We could go jogging, cycling, swimming, go the gym, learn a martial art, take dance lessons, join a soccer team, (etc.)"



                        I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym



                        Instead maybe try different activities until you find one she likes.



                        Apparently even you don't like the gym; so...






                        share|improve this answer












                        My mum (a professional preschool teacher) believed in offering choices -- never a choice like, "Do you want to wear a shirt today?", but rather, "Which shirt do you want to wear to school today: this blue one, or this green one?"



                        IOW she'd offer a choice between whichever alternatives were all acceptable to her.



                        Similarly your GF might like a choice -- and not just, "go to the gym!", but rather, "What would you like to do for exercise, healthy fun and games, with me? We could go jogging, cycling, swimming, go the gym, learn a martial art, take dance lessons, join a soccer team, (etc.)"



                        I'd like to sign us both up together at the same time for a nice gym



                        Instead maybe try different activities until you find one she likes.



                        Apparently even you don't like the gym; so...







                        share|improve this answer












                        share|improve this answer



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                        answered Aug 24 at 20:39









                        ChrisW

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                            5
                            down vote













                            Ask her out for ice cream!



                            That might sound flippant, but I'm not kidding. Point in case:



                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do park runs together on a weekly basis... we went once.


                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do breakfast together on a weekly basis, but do a park run first. Some of us have cleared 50 runs and are well on our way to 100; the others keep forgetting their bar codes (so the runs don't count). We run as a group chatting mostly supporting the slowest (after all the fittest can handle running for longer). If the route repeats whoever is tired can opt to skip the second round, but it happens rarely.


                            While the above is written quite tongue in cheek it is quite true and the rationale is actually quite solid. No one wants to go do a negative activity, but everyone one wants to do a positive one; more so after doing a negative one. So ask her if she'd like to do something fun, but mention that there is a caveat, namely before you do the fun thing you have to do some form of exercise.



                            There was a really good talk by Dan Arielly (a psychologist/economist) on how to motivate someone to do something they don't want to; in it he talks about how he motivated taking some form of medication that messed you up for the evening. I can't find it now, but it boils down to do something fun after doing something less so.



                            Consider both her and your point of view, would you prefer going to some gym or would you prefer a jog to the nearby coffee shop for a chat about your day and a big ol' piece of cake?



                            *Update : It, would appear that I hadn't explicitly tackled the insecurities of the girlfriend in my response, and this was deliberate. The implication I was aiming for in my answer was that by asking her to do something positive with you it indicates your interest in getting to know her, it improves the relationship, and bypasses her connotations associated with the gym. Saying "Let's have ice cream" bypasses any concerns about her/your physique. Saying let's exercise beforehand sets a challenge you both must complete to get a treat.



                            It turns the whole thing around from "I think you're a plump little duck let's hang out with mechanical devices and strangers to change that" to "Hey!! Fun idea, let's waddle to the pond and watch the willows and reeds sway in the wind as the sun sets". That is, let us do something crappy, hard and really miserable, but celebrate out accomplishments together afterwards, heck knows I need it, but I sure don't want to do it.



                            After all, the gym may be your end goal, but it does not mean it's hers. Taking it easy at first with some alternative activity lets you surreptitiously ease into an exercise routine and before you know it she gets keen on the fitness thing and asks if you'd consider gym after a few weeks.*






                            share|improve this answer


















                            • 2




                              Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
                              – YElm
                              Aug 24 at 7:16










                            • @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
                              – avazula
                              Aug 24 at 7:23







                            • 2




                              @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
                              – Tinkeringbell♦
                              Aug 24 at 7:23






                            • 1




                              I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
                              – Zibbobz
                              Aug 24 at 17:01










                            • It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
                              – Carel
                              Aug 24 at 19:24















                            up vote
                            5
                            down vote













                            Ask her out for ice cream!



                            That might sound flippant, but I'm not kidding. Point in case:



                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do park runs together on a weekly basis... we went once.


                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do breakfast together on a weekly basis, but do a park run first. Some of us have cleared 50 runs and are well on our way to 100; the others keep forgetting their bar codes (so the runs don't count). We run as a group chatting mostly supporting the slowest (after all the fittest can handle running for longer). If the route repeats whoever is tired can opt to skip the second round, but it happens rarely.


                            While the above is written quite tongue in cheek it is quite true and the rationale is actually quite solid. No one wants to go do a negative activity, but everyone one wants to do a positive one; more so after doing a negative one. So ask her if she'd like to do something fun, but mention that there is a caveat, namely before you do the fun thing you have to do some form of exercise.



                            There was a really good talk by Dan Arielly (a psychologist/economist) on how to motivate someone to do something they don't want to; in it he talks about how he motivated taking some form of medication that messed you up for the evening. I can't find it now, but it boils down to do something fun after doing something less so.



                            Consider both her and your point of view, would you prefer going to some gym or would you prefer a jog to the nearby coffee shop for a chat about your day and a big ol' piece of cake?



                            *Update : It, would appear that I hadn't explicitly tackled the insecurities of the girlfriend in my response, and this was deliberate. The implication I was aiming for in my answer was that by asking her to do something positive with you it indicates your interest in getting to know her, it improves the relationship, and bypasses her connotations associated with the gym. Saying "Let's have ice cream" bypasses any concerns about her/your physique. Saying let's exercise beforehand sets a challenge you both must complete to get a treat.



                            It turns the whole thing around from "I think you're a plump little duck let's hang out with mechanical devices and strangers to change that" to "Hey!! Fun idea, let's waddle to the pond and watch the willows and reeds sway in the wind as the sun sets". That is, let us do something crappy, hard and really miserable, but celebrate out accomplishments together afterwards, heck knows I need it, but I sure don't want to do it.



                            After all, the gym may be your end goal, but it does not mean it's hers. Taking it easy at first with some alternative activity lets you surreptitiously ease into an exercise routine and before you know it she gets keen on the fitness thing and asks if you'd consider gym after a few weeks.*






                            share|improve this answer


















                            • 2




                              Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
                              – YElm
                              Aug 24 at 7:16










                            • @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
                              – avazula
                              Aug 24 at 7:23







                            • 2




                              @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
                              – Tinkeringbell♦
                              Aug 24 at 7:23






                            • 1




                              I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
                              – Zibbobz
                              Aug 24 at 17:01










                            • It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
                              – Carel
                              Aug 24 at 19:24













                            up vote
                            5
                            down vote










                            up vote
                            5
                            down vote









                            Ask her out for ice cream!



                            That might sound flippant, but I'm not kidding. Point in case:



                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do park runs together on a weekly basis... we went once.


                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do breakfast together on a weekly basis, but do a park run first. Some of us have cleared 50 runs and are well on our way to 100; the others keep forgetting their bar codes (so the runs don't count). We run as a group chatting mostly supporting the slowest (after all the fittest can handle running for longer). If the route repeats whoever is tired can opt to skip the second round, but it happens rarely.


                            While the above is written quite tongue in cheek it is quite true and the rationale is actually quite solid. No one wants to go do a negative activity, but everyone one wants to do a positive one; more so after doing a negative one. So ask her if she'd like to do something fun, but mention that there is a caveat, namely before you do the fun thing you have to do some form of exercise.



                            There was a really good talk by Dan Arielly (a psychologist/economist) on how to motivate someone to do something they don't want to; in it he talks about how he motivated taking some form of medication that messed you up for the evening. I can't find it now, but it boils down to do something fun after doing something less so.



                            Consider both her and your point of view, would you prefer going to some gym or would you prefer a jog to the nearby coffee shop for a chat about your day and a big ol' piece of cake?



                            *Update : It, would appear that I hadn't explicitly tackled the insecurities of the girlfriend in my response, and this was deliberate. The implication I was aiming for in my answer was that by asking her to do something positive with you it indicates your interest in getting to know her, it improves the relationship, and bypasses her connotations associated with the gym. Saying "Let's have ice cream" bypasses any concerns about her/your physique. Saying let's exercise beforehand sets a challenge you both must complete to get a treat.



                            It turns the whole thing around from "I think you're a plump little duck let's hang out with mechanical devices and strangers to change that" to "Hey!! Fun idea, let's waddle to the pond and watch the willows and reeds sway in the wind as the sun sets". That is, let us do something crappy, hard and really miserable, but celebrate out accomplishments together afterwards, heck knows I need it, but I sure don't want to do it.



                            After all, the gym may be your end goal, but it does not mean it's hers. Taking it easy at first with some alternative activity lets you surreptitiously ease into an exercise routine and before you know it she gets keen on the fitness thing and asks if you'd consider gym after a few weeks.*






                            share|improve this answer














                            Ask her out for ice cream!



                            That might sound flippant, but I'm not kidding. Point in case:



                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do park runs together on a weekly basis... we went once.


                            • A few friends and I decided we'd do breakfast together on a weekly basis, but do a park run first. Some of us have cleared 50 runs and are well on our way to 100; the others keep forgetting their bar codes (so the runs don't count). We run as a group chatting mostly supporting the slowest (after all the fittest can handle running for longer). If the route repeats whoever is tired can opt to skip the second round, but it happens rarely.


                            While the above is written quite tongue in cheek it is quite true and the rationale is actually quite solid. No one wants to go do a negative activity, but everyone one wants to do a positive one; more so after doing a negative one. So ask her if she'd like to do something fun, but mention that there is a caveat, namely before you do the fun thing you have to do some form of exercise.



                            There was a really good talk by Dan Arielly (a psychologist/economist) on how to motivate someone to do something they don't want to; in it he talks about how he motivated taking some form of medication that messed you up for the evening. I can't find it now, but it boils down to do something fun after doing something less so.



                            Consider both her and your point of view, would you prefer going to some gym or would you prefer a jog to the nearby coffee shop for a chat about your day and a big ol' piece of cake?



                            *Update : It, would appear that I hadn't explicitly tackled the insecurities of the girlfriend in my response, and this was deliberate. The implication I was aiming for in my answer was that by asking her to do something positive with you it indicates your interest in getting to know her, it improves the relationship, and bypasses her connotations associated with the gym. Saying "Let's have ice cream" bypasses any concerns about her/your physique. Saying let's exercise beforehand sets a challenge you both must complete to get a treat.



                            It turns the whole thing around from "I think you're a plump little duck let's hang out with mechanical devices and strangers to change that" to "Hey!! Fun idea, let's waddle to the pond and watch the willows and reeds sway in the wind as the sun sets". That is, let us do something crappy, hard and really miserable, but celebrate out accomplishments together afterwards, heck knows I need it, but I sure don't want to do it.



                            After all, the gym may be your end goal, but it does not mean it's hers. Taking it easy at first with some alternative activity lets you surreptitiously ease into an exercise routine and before you know it she gets keen on the fitness thing and asks if you'd consider gym after a few weeks.*







                            share|improve this answer














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                            edited Aug 25 at 11:38









                            Peter Mortensen

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                            answered Aug 23 at 22:51









                            Carel

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                            • 2




                              Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
                              – YElm
                              Aug 24 at 7:16










                            • @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
                              – avazula
                              Aug 24 at 7:23







                            • 2




                              @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
                              – Tinkeringbell♦
                              Aug 24 at 7:23






                            • 1




                              I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
                              – Zibbobz
                              Aug 24 at 17:01










                            • It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
                              – Carel
                              Aug 24 at 19:24













                            • 2




                              Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
                              – YElm
                              Aug 24 at 7:16










                            • @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
                              – avazula
                              Aug 24 at 7:23







                            • 2




                              @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
                              – Tinkeringbell♦
                              Aug 24 at 7:23






                            • 1




                              I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
                              – Zibbobz
                              Aug 24 at 17:01










                            • It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
                              – Carel
                              Aug 24 at 19:24








                            2




                            2




                            Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
                            – YElm
                            Aug 24 at 7:16




                            Why did this answer get downvoted? I see no obvious problem here and the anecdotal story is backed up by references. A link to these references would be nice but this doesn't warrant downvotes. Please leave a comment why you downvote this answer to help improve it.
                            – YElm
                            Aug 24 at 7:16












                            @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
                            – avazula
                            Aug 24 at 7:23





                            @YElm (just FYI) downvotes are also here for users to express that they don't like the answer ; it does not necessarily mean the answer is off-topic or not well formed. In the case the downvoter did it because they didn't like the answer then they should not leave a comment, for comments are only here to ask for details or suggest improvements.
                            – avazula
                            Aug 24 at 7:23





                            2




                            2




                            @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
                            – Tinkeringbell♦
                            Aug 24 at 7:23




                            @YElm and Carel: The downvote isn't mine. But I can see a few points that make this a bit of a non-answer: Although it really focuses on how to get her to join a gym and stick to it, the questions mentions the girlfriend being very insecure. The answer doesn't address this, doesn't mention how doing something fun but first hitting the gym won't make the girlfriend think that she's ugly and too fat, and that MrSmith might be unattracted to her. Carel, could you edit this to try to explain why this works taken that into account?
                            – Tinkeringbell♦
                            Aug 24 at 7:23




                            1




                            1




                            I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
                            – Zibbobz
                            Aug 24 at 17:01




                            I would suggest re-working the bold text at the top - this makes the answer look like it's suggesting that OP and their girlfriend go out for ice cream instead of working out to improve their health - when it's actually suggesting they offer a reward for doing so. That being said, I don't think this is a good idea. Trying to suggest that they put ice cream before a workout would only feed into the girlfriend's insecurities about their weight, and wouldn't be appropriate for this problem.
                            – Zibbobz
                            Aug 24 at 17:01












                            It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
                            – Carel
                            Aug 24 at 19:24





                            It's now a heading, other answers "divert the blame" once the question has been asked DaveG shifts it to the OP, Cheshire & Pablo blames the gym and Avazula & Johns-305 warn of the tone with which it is asked. Cheshire/Avasula/John/myself hint instead at the real issue, that the OP likes this lass and is concerned both for his & her health and congruently their relationship. Saying let's go for ice cream, effectively the equivalent of a glass of milk (Glass of Water if you get Sorbet), after an energetic detour sounded like a better solution then asking if she'll sign up for a gym membership.
                            – Carel
                            Aug 24 at 19:24











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                            On how to convince her, you might want to approach the issue on the fun way rather than the healthy one - tell her about the pleasant feeling soreness brings, how she'll feel she has more energy, how you're gonna spend more time together, committing on a common activity. Tell her that you need someone to motivate yourself, as you just told us. People are way more likely to go something good if it serves other rather than just themselves.



                            What I also found helpful to convince my SO to go to the gym with me is to subscribe to a duet formula - you pay for one, you bring a buddy - whoever they are, whenever you feel like it. These formulae are way cheaper than two regular subscriptions (and only slightly more expensive than one regular formula) so it'd make your girlfriend more comfortable and less afraid of wasting money (if that's something that bothers her).






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                              On how to convince her, you might want to approach the issue on the fun way rather than the healthy one - tell her about the pleasant feeling soreness brings, how she'll feel she has more energy, how you're gonna spend more time together, committing on a common activity. Tell her that you need someone to motivate yourself, as you just told us. People are way more likely to go something good if it serves other rather than just themselves.



                              What I also found helpful to convince my SO to go to the gym with me is to subscribe to a duet formula - you pay for one, you bring a buddy - whoever they are, whenever you feel like it. These formulae are way cheaper than two regular subscriptions (and only slightly more expensive than one regular formula) so it'd make your girlfriend more comfortable and less afraid of wasting money (if that's something that bothers her).






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                                On how to convince her, you might want to approach the issue on the fun way rather than the healthy one - tell her about the pleasant feeling soreness brings, how she'll feel she has more energy, how you're gonna spend more time together, committing on a common activity. Tell her that you need someone to motivate yourself, as you just told us. People are way more likely to go something good if it serves other rather than just themselves.



                                What I also found helpful to convince my SO to go to the gym with me is to subscribe to a duet formula - you pay for one, you bring a buddy - whoever they are, whenever you feel like it. These formulae are way cheaper than two regular subscriptions (and only slightly more expensive than one regular formula) so it'd make your girlfriend more comfortable and less afraid of wasting money (if that's something that bothers her).






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                                On how to convince her, you might want to approach the issue on the fun way rather than the healthy one - tell her about the pleasant feeling soreness brings, how she'll feel she has more energy, how you're gonna spend more time together, committing on a common activity. Tell her that you need someone to motivate yourself, as you just told us. People are way more likely to go something good if it serves other rather than just themselves.



                                What I also found helpful to convince my SO to go to the gym with me is to subscribe to a duet formula - you pay for one, you bring a buddy - whoever they are, whenever you feel like it. These formulae are way cheaper than two regular subscriptions (and only slightly more expensive than one regular formula) so it'd make your girlfriend more comfortable and less afraid of wasting money (if that's something that bothers her).







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                                answered Aug 23 at 12:50









                                avazula

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                                    Allow me to challenge this one a little. You have decided, seemingly independent of her, that she needs to make a change based on your view of her body.



                                    (Note: I'm a 300ish lb female-presenting human. I do work out now, but not to lose any weight, I just like the idea of lifting lots of stuff. That said, for years I didn't do a whole lot beyond walking (because I take transit everywhere), and was perfectly healthy by my doctor's metrics and could still do pretty much anything I wanted that didn't have a weight limit, like ziplining etc.)



                                    You might not be happy with your body, and that's fine, its the meatsack you're stuck with, you're welcome to decide to treat it as you like. But assuming that because you think she's overweight, she needs to go to the gym and workout and change that, and therefore she has to be approached carefully so you can convince her to do what you think is right for her body seems...not entirely fair.



                                    She's well within her rights to be upset and hurt if you tell her she needs to change herself. Just because she is overweight based on your opinions of what that looks like, doesn't mean it's actually something that actively needs to change - being of larger body proportions doesn't necessarily guarantee that she's not fit, or not healthy.



                                    So perhaps, you might want to rethink this - you seem to want to find a way to spend time together in a more active sense, and that's a laudable goal, as long as both people want to do it. Has she expressed any interest in what you do at the gym? Or has she mentioned any other sort of "active" activity that you might better enjoy, because you're doing it because it's fun and not because you think she needs to lose weight, and therefore pushing her this way is going to make her miserable, and thus potentially resent not only the workouts, but you for making her feel inadequate because she has to do this?



                                    I get it - we all want what's best for our partners, but we also need to realize that what we think is best for ourselves is not always best for others. She might have her own very valid reasons for being the size she is, or for not wanting to do the gym thing. You need to respect that.






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                                      Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
                                      – DaveG
                                      Aug 27 at 13:56










                                    • As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
                                      – Tinkeringbell♦
                                      Aug 28 at 13:18














                                    up vote
                                    4
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                                    Allow me to challenge this one a little. You have decided, seemingly independent of her, that she needs to make a change based on your view of her body.



                                    (Note: I'm a 300ish lb female-presenting human. I do work out now, but not to lose any weight, I just like the idea of lifting lots of stuff. That said, for years I didn't do a whole lot beyond walking (because I take transit everywhere), and was perfectly healthy by my doctor's metrics and could still do pretty much anything I wanted that didn't have a weight limit, like ziplining etc.)



                                    You might not be happy with your body, and that's fine, its the meatsack you're stuck with, you're welcome to decide to treat it as you like. But assuming that because you think she's overweight, she needs to go to the gym and workout and change that, and therefore she has to be approached carefully so you can convince her to do what you think is right for her body seems...not entirely fair.



                                    She's well within her rights to be upset and hurt if you tell her she needs to change herself. Just because she is overweight based on your opinions of what that looks like, doesn't mean it's actually something that actively needs to change - being of larger body proportions doesn't necessarily guarantee that she's not fit, or not healthy.



                                    So perhaps, you might want to rethink this - you seem to want to find a way to spend time together in a more active sense, and that's a laudable goal, as long as both people want to do it. Has she expressed any interest in what you do at the gym? Or has she mentioned any other sort of "active" activity that you might better enjoy, because you're doing it because it's fun and not because you think she needs to lose weight, and therefore pushing her this way is going to make her miserable, and thus potentially resent not only the workouts, but you for making her feel inadequate because she has to do this?



                                    I get it - we all want what's best for our partners, but we also need to realize that what we think is best for ourselves is not always best for others. She might have her own very valid reasons for being the size she is, or for not wanting to do the gym thing. You need to respect that.






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                                    • 3




                                      Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
                                      – DaveG
                                      Aug 27 at 13:56










                                    • As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
                                      – Tinkeringbell♦
                                      Aug 28 at 13:18












                                    up vote
                                    4
                                    down vote










                                    up vote
                                    4
                                    down vote









                                    Allow me to challenge this one a little. You have decided, seemingly independent of her, that she needs to make a change based on your view of her body.



                                    (Note: I'm a 300ish lb female-presenting human. I do work out now, but not to lose any weight, I just like the idea of lifting lots of stuff. That said, for years I didn't do a whole lot beyond walking (because I take transit everywhere), and was perfectly healthy by my doctor's metrics and could still do pretty much anything I wanted that didn't have a weight limit, like ziplining etc.)



                                    You might not be happy with your body, and that's fine, its the meatsack you're stuck with, you're welcome to decide to treat it as you like. But assuming that because you think she's overweight, she needs to go to the gym and workout and change that, and therefore she has to be approached carefully so you can convince her to do what you think is right for her body seems...not entirely fair.



                                    She's well within her rights to be upset and hurt if you tell her she needs to change herself. Just because she is overweight based on your opinions of what that looks like, doesn't mean it's actually something that actively needs to change - being of larger body proportions doesn't necessarily guarantee that she's not fit, or not healthy.



                                    So perhaps, you might want to rethink this - you seem to want to find a way to spend time together in a more active sense, and that's a laudable goal, as long as both people want to do it. Has she expressed any interest in what you do at the gym? Or has she mentioned any other sort of "active" activity that you might better enjoy, because you're doing it because it's fun and not because you think she needs to lose weight, and therefore pushing her this way is going to make her miserable, and thus potentially resent not only the workouts, but you for making her feel inadequate because she has to do this?



                                    I get it - we all want what's best for our partners, but we also need to realize that what we think is best for ourselves is not always best for others. She might have her own very valid reasons for being the size she is, or for not wanting to do the gym thing. You need to respect that.






                                    share|improve this answer












                                    Allow me to challenge this one a little. You have decided, seemingly independent of her, that she needs to make a change based on your view of her body.



                                    (Note: I'm a 300ish lb female-presenting human. I do work out now, but not to lose any weight, I just like the idea of lifting lots of stuff. That said, for years I didn't do a whole lot beyond walking (because I take transit everywhere), and was perfectly healthy by my doctor's metrics and could still do pretty much anything I wanted that didn't have a weight limit, like ziplining etc.)



                                    You might not be happy with your body, and that's fine, its the meatsack you're stuck with, you're welcome to decide to treat it as you like. But assuming that because you think she's overweight, she needs to go to the gym and workout and change that, and therefore she has to be approached carefully so you can convince her to do what you think is right for her body seems...not entirely fair.



                                    She's well within her rights to be upset and hurt if you tell her she needs to change herself. Just because she is overweight based on your opinions of what that looks like, doesn't mean it's actually something that actively needs to change - being of larger body proportions doesn't necessarily guarantee that she's not fit, or not healthy.



                                    So perhaps, you might want to rethink this - you seem to want to find a way to spend time together in a more active sense, and that's a laudable goal, as long as both people want to do it. Has she expressed any interest in what you do at the gym? Or has she mentioned any other sort of "active" activity that you might better enjoy, because you're doing it because it's fun and not because you think she needs to lose weight, and therefore pushing her this way is going to make her miserable, and thus potentially resent not only the workouts, but you for making her feel inadequate because she has to do this?



                                    I get it - we all want what's best for our partners, but we also need to realize that what we think is best for ourselves is not always best for others. She might have her own very valid reasons for being the size she is, or for not wanting to do the gym thing. You need to respect that.







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                                    answered Aug 27 at 2:23









                                    Ash

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                                      Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
                                      – DaveG
                                      Aug 27 at 13:56










                                    • As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
                                      – Tinkeringbell♦
                                      Aug 28 at 13:18












                                    • 3




                                      Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
                                      – DaveG
                                      Aug 27 at 13:56










                                    • As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
                                      – Tinkeringbell♦
                                      Aug 28 at 13:18







                                    3




                                    3




                                    Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
                                    – DaveG
                                    Aug 27 at 13:56




                                    Allow me to challenge your challenge. The question states "she is extremely insecure about her weight to the point where I have had to convince her on multiple occasions that I am attracted to her because she assumed I am not, owing to her being overweight". So it's not that he is unhappy with her body, she is.
                                    – DaveG
                                    Aug 27 at 13:56












                                    As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
                                    – Tinkeringbell♦
                                    Aug 28 at 13:18




                                    As DaveG pointed out, she might be very well unhappy with her body as well. Are there different interpretations of 'insecure' at play here? Would you say (parts of) your answer still stand if she is unhappy?
                                    – Tinkeringbell♦
                                    Aug 28 at 13:18










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                                    I'm gonna go counter to the other answers; most are focusing on how to ask her to the gym, I'm gonna focus on whether you should.



                                    I've been there: you love someone so much that it hurts to see them not take care of them self. More than once I've lost relationships because I pushed someone I loved against their insecurities and broke their trust. It's especially tricky when the person you love struggles with self-esteem because it's so easy to send them into a spiral of self-doubt.



                                    You say:




                                    She is somewhat overweight ... At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.




                                    I know you mean well and you're trying hard not to make this seem like judgment and body-shame, but is it? I suspect that if she chooses to see it that way, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                    Moreover, you are looking for ways to talk her into something that you suspect she won't respond well to. If she chooses to see that as manipulation, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                    As someone's been there, especially if there are self-esteem issues at play, you need to be really really careful around things that can be perceived as manipulative / judgmental.




                                    I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem




                                    Don't. It's not your job to think for her. As her boyfriend, your job, above all else, is to be her cheerleader not her coach. That's how she'll come to trust that she can be herself and tell you anything without fear of judgment.



                                    Be comfortable with the person she is and find aspects of that to be genuine about celebrating. If she decides to take up a physical activity, celebrate and praise like crazy, but I would advise against trying to change her or manipulate her into it.






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                                      I'm gonna go counter to the other answers; most are focusing on how to ask her to the gym, I'm gonna focus on whether you should.



                                      I've been there: you love someone so much that it hurts to see them not take care of them self. More than once I've lost relationships because I pushed someone I loved against their insecurities and broke their trust. It's especially tricky when the person you love struggles with self-esteem because it's so easy to send them into a spiral of self-doubt.



                                      You say:




                                      She is somewhat overweight ... At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.




                                      I know you mean well and you're trying hard not to make this seem like judgment and body-shame, but is it? I suspect that if she chooses to see it that way, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                      Moreover, you are looking for ways to talk her into something that you suspect she won't respond well to. If she chooses to see that as manipulation, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                      As someone's been there, especially if there are self-esteem issues at play, you need to be really really careful around things that can be perceived as manipulative / judgmental.




                                      I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem




                                      Don't. It's not your job to think for her. As her boyfriend, your job, above all else, is to be her cheerleader not her coach. That's how she'll come to trust that she can be herself and tell you anything without fear of judgment.



                                      Be comfortable with the person she is and find aspects of that to be genuine about celebrating. If she decides to take up a physical activity, celebrate and praise like crazy, but I would advise against trying to change her or manipulate her into it.






                                      share|improve this answer






















                                        up vote
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                                        up vote
                                        4
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                                        I'm gonna go counter to the other answers; most are focusing on how to ask her to the gym, I'm gonna focus on whether you should.



                                        I've been there: you love someone so much that it hurts to see them not take care of them self. More than once I've lost relationships because I pushed someone I loved against their insecurities and broke their trust. It's especially tricky when the person you love struggles with self-esteem because it's so easy to send them into a spiral of self-doubt.



                                        You say:




                                        She is somewhat overweight ... At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.




                                        I know you mean well and you're trying hard not to make this seem like judgment and body-shame, but is it? I suspect that if she chooses to see it that way, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                        Moreover, you are looking for ways to talk her into something that you suspect she won't respond well to. If she chooses to see that as manipulation, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                        As someone's been there, especially if there are self-esteem issues at play, you need to be really really careful around things that can be perceived as manipulative / judgmental.




                                        I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem




                                        Don't. It's not your job to think for her. As her boyfriend, your job, above all else, is to be her cheerleader not her coach. That's how she'll come to trust that she can be herself and tell you anything without fear of judgment.



                                        Be comfortable with the person she is and find aspects of that to be genuine about celebrating. If she decides to take up a physical activity, celebrate and praise like crazy, but I would advise against trying to change her or manipulate her into it.






                                        share|improve this answer












                                        I'm gonna go counter to the other answers; most are focusing on how to ask her to the gym, I'm gonna focus on whether you should.



                                        I've been there: you love someone so much that it hurts to see them not take care of them self. More than once I've lost relationships because I pushed someone I loved against their insecurities and broke their trust. It's especially tricky when the person you love struggles with self-esteem because it's so easy to send them into a spiral of self-doubt.



                                        You say:




                                        She is somewhat overweight ... At the moment her lifestyle is quite sedentary.




                                        I know you mean well and you're trying hard not to make this seem like judgment and body-shame, but is it? I suspect that if she chooses to see it that way, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                        Moreover, you are looking for ways to talk her into something that you suspect she won't respond well to. If she chooses to see that as manipulation, well ... she won't be entirely wrong.



                                        As someone's been there, especially if there are self-esteem issues at play, you need to be really really careful around things that can be perceived as manipulative / judgmental.




                                        I actually think if she got into it it would increase her self-esteem




                                        Don't. It's not your job to think for her. As her boyfriend, your job, above all else, is to be her cheerleader not her coach. That's how she'll come to trust that she can be herself and tell you anything without fear of judgment.



                                        Be comfortable with the person she is and find aspects of that to be genuine about celebrating. If she decides to take up a physical activity, celebrate and praise like crazy, but I would advise against trying to change her or manipulate her into it.







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                                        answered Aug 27 at 18:16









                                        Mike Ounsworth

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                                            Make your invitation be about enjoying her company, not about working out. Tell her you like spending time with her and would enjoy her company if she felt like going to the gym with you. Word it as an invitation rather than a request, with a tone of voice and choice of words that make it clear that it's OK if she doesn't want to go. You are saying what you would enjoy (her company), and then giving her the freedom to make her own choice.



                                            If she says no, or seems hesitant, tell her it's OK (and mean it). But you can repeat the invitation now and again, with kindness and sincerity and an utter lack of pressure.



                                            This way you've removed the workout from the request. It's about spending time with her, and that time would be at the gym, but the gym is not the focus. The time you spend together is the focus. Overweight people have to live with constant judgement and with people trying to control their weight for them. By making your request be about spending time with her, you've made sure that you're not giving her the impression that you, too have fallen into the trap of trying to control her weight.



                                            Another thing to keep in mind is that the relationship between exercise and weight loss is complicated and not clear cut. Exercising does not guarantee weight loss. See, for example: The science is in: exercise won’t help you lose much weight. There are many good reasons to go to the gym, of course--fitness is about much more than just weight. This is another reason to make sure that your invitation is only about spending time with her, and not at all about weight. If she does go with you, she may not lose any weight, or much weight, so make sure that weight is not the reason you are inviting her.






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                                            • 2




                                              +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
                                              – Atcrank
                                              Aug 28 at 0:21














                                            up vote
                                            2
                                            down vote













                                            Make your invitation be about enjoying her company, not about working out. Tell her you like spending time with her and would enjoy her company if she felt like going to the gym with you. Word it as an invitation rather than a request, with a tone of voice and choice of words that make it clear that it's OK if she doesn't want to go. You are saying what you would enjoy (her company), and then giving her the freedom to make her own choice.



                                            If she says no, or seems hesitant, tell her it's OK (and mean it). But you can repeat the invitation now and again, with kindness and sincerity and an utter lack of pressure.



                                            This way you've removed the workout from the request. It's about spending time with her, and that time would be at the gym, but the gym is not the focus. The time you spend together is the focus. Overweight people have to live with constant judgement and with people trying to control their weight for them. By making your request be about spending time with her, you've made sure that you're not giving her the impression that you, too have fallen into the trap of trying to control her weight.



                                            Another thing to keep in mind is that the relationship between exercise and weight loss is complicated and not clear cut. Exercising does not guarantee weight loss. See, for example: The science is in: exercise won’t help you lose much weight. There are many good reasons to go to the gym, of course--fitness is about much more than just weight. This is another reason to make sure that your invitation is only about spending time with her, and not at all about weight. If she does go with you, she may not lose any weight, or much weight, so make sure that weight is not the reason you are inviting her.






                                            share|improve this answer
















                                            • 2




                                              +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
                                              – Atcrank
                                              Aug 28 at 0:21












                                            up vote
                                            2
                                            down vote










                                            up vote
                                            2
                                            down vote









                                            Make your invitation be about enjoying her company, not about working out. Tell her you like spending time with her and would enjoy her company if she felt like going to the gym with you. Word it as an invitation rather than a request, with a tone of voice and choice of words that make it clear that it's OK if she doesn't want to go. You are saying what you would enjoy (her company), and then giving her the freedom to make her own choice.



                                            If she says no, or seems hesitant, tell her it's OK (and mean it). But you can repeat the invitation now and again, with kindness and sincerity and an utter lack of pressure.



                                            This way you've removed the workout from the request. It's about spending time with her, and that time would be at the gym, but the gym is not the focus. The time you spend together is the focus. Overweight people have to live with constant judgement and with people trying to control their weight for them. By making your request be about spending time with her, you've made sure that you're not giving her the impression that you, too have fallen into the trap of trying to control her weight.



                                            Another thing to keep in mind is that the relationship between exercise and weight loss is complicated and not clear cut. Exercising does not guarantee weight loss. See, for example: The science is in: exercise won’t help you lose much weight. There are many good reasons to go to the gym, of course--fitness is about much more than just weight. This is another reason to make sure that your invitation is only about spending time with her, and not at all about weight. If she does go with you, she may not lose any weight, or much weight, so make sure that weight is not the reason you are inviting her.






                                            share|improve this answer












                                            Make your invitation be about enjoying her company, not about working out. Tell her you like spending time with her and would enjoy her company if she felt like going to the gym with you. Word it as an invitation rather than a request, with a tone of voice and choice of words that make it clear that it's OK if she doesn't want to go. You are saying what you would enjoy (her company), and then giving her the freedom to make her own choice.



                                            If she says no, or seems hesitant, tell her it's OK (and mean it). But you can repeat the invitation now and again, with kindness and sincerity and an utter lack of pressure.



                                            This way you've removed the workout from the request. It's about spending time with her, and that time would be at the gym, but the gym is not the focus. The time you spend together is the focus. Overweight people have to live with constant judgement and with people trying to control their weight for them. By making your request be about spending time with her, you've made sure that you're not giving her the impression that you, too have fallen into the trap of trying to control her weight.



                                            Another thing to keep in mind is that the relationship between exercise and weight loss is complicated and not clear cut. Exercising does not guarantee weight loss. See, for example: The science is in: exercise won’t help you lose much weight. There are many good reasons to go to the gym, of course--fitness is about much more than just weight. This is another reason to make sure that your invitation is only about spending time with her, and not at all about weight. If she does go with you, she may not lose any weight, or much weight, so make sure that weight is not the reason you are inviting her.







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                                            answered Aug 26 at 23:20









                                            Wayne Conrad

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                                              +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
                                              – Atcrank
                                              Aug 28 at 0:21












                                            • 2




                                              +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
                                              – Atcrank
                                              Aug 28 at 0:21







                                            2




                                            2




                                            +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
                                            – Atcrank
                                            Aug 28 at 0:21




                                            +1 Important point about the gym: its a place for developing strength, power, endurance, maybe agility or flexibility, but its not the key to losing fat. Only diet control works, and because diet control is very hard, only highly motivated people can keep it up. Goals and success at the gym can certainly help motivation, and getting stronger is easy, fun and feels terrific.
                                            – Atcrank
                                            Aug 28 at 0:21










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                                            Take smaller steps.



                                            First ask to go for a walk around the park, or to somewhere several blocks away. You don't want to take a bus, car, or your own vehicles; perhaps bike riding is OK, and a smaller step.



                                            Second explain that you go jogging for half an hour on particular days, ask that she join you. Next tell her you jog for an hour on a different day, and she should come along; you'd really enjoy her company.



                                            Next up is the gym, where it's a big step up and sounds like a commitment.



                                            If she won't engage in limited healthy activity with you she's not going to go to the gym.



                                            Sometimes the gym is too regimented and one must bear public scrutiny, this can be too much for someone whom is self-conscious and interference by others even when one is fit is often not well received.



                                            Maybe you live in an apartment with a gym that is unused or there's a couples class for family exercise (that doesn't make it sound like you are proposing).



                                            Don't make each step a big deal, and don't heap praise on her for accomplishing some goal. Don't take the enjoyment out of doing something useful together that you both want to do.






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                                            • 1




                                              Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
                                              – Arwen Undómiel
                                              Aug 26 at 9:26










                                            • The first sentence is self explanatory. The 5th, 6th, and 8th are certainly a clear explanation. Our communities at English Language Learners.SE and English.SE are eager to help. Answers and questions in comments bypass all our quality control mechanisms. Downvoting and then writing an 'explain yourself or else' comment doesn't meet the objectives we strive for in our new Code of Conduct.
                                              – Rob
                                              Aug 28 at 3:48











                                            • @Rob Different sites [can] have different policies about what's a good, on-topic answer -- for example answers on Skeptics.SE must be referenced, without exception. I'm new to this IPS.SE but their Meta policy reminds me of Good Subjective, Bad Subjective, which suggests that good answers are based on references or on personal experience.
                                              – ChrisW
                                              Aug 28 at 11:45














                                            up vote
                                            1
                                            down vote













                                            Take smaller steps.



                                            First ask to go for a walk around the park, or to somewhere several blocks away. You don't want to take a bus, car, or your own vehicles; perhaps bike riding is OK, and a smaller step.



                                            Second explain that you go jogging for half an hour on particular days, ask that she join you. Next tell her you jog for an hour on a different day, and she should come along; you'd really enjoy her company.



                                            Next up is the gym, where it's a big step up and sounds like a commitment.



                                            If she won't engage in limited healthy activity with you she's not going to go to the gym.



                                            Sometimes the gym is too regimented and one must bear public scrutiny, this can be too much for someone whom is self-conscious and interference by others even when one is fit is often not well received.



                                            Maybe you live in an apartment with a gym that is unused or there's a couples class for family exercise (that doesn't make it sound like you are proposing).



                                            Don't make each step a big deal, and don't heap praise on her for accomplishing some goal. Don't take the enjoyment out of doing something useful together that you both want to do.






                                            share|improve this answer
















                                            • 1




                                              Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
                                              – Arwen Undómiel
                                              Aug 26 at 9:26










                                            • The first sentence is self explanatory. The 5th, 6th, and 8th are certainly a clear explanation. Our communities at English Language Learners.SE and English.SE are eager to help. Answers and questions in comments bypass all our quality control mechanisms. Downvoting and then writing an 'explain yourself or else' comment doesn't meet the objectives we strive for in our new Code of Conduct.
                                              – Rob
                                              Aug 28 at 3:48











                                            • @Rob Different sites [can] have different policies about what's a good, on-topic answer -- for example answers on Skeptics.SE must be referenced, without exception. I'm new to this IPS.SE but their Meta policy reminds me of Good Subjective, Bad Subjective, which suggests that good answers are based on references or on personal experience.
                                              – ChrisW
                                              Aug 28 at 11:45












                                            up vote
                                            1
                                            down vote










                                            up vote
                                            1
                                            down vote









                                            Take smaller steps.



                                            First ask to go for a walk around the park, or to somewhere several blocks away. You don't want to take a bus, car, or your own vehicles; perhaps bike riding is OK, and a smaller step.



                                            Second explain that you go jogging for half an hour on particular days, ask that she join you. Next tell her you jog for an hour on a different day, and she should come along; you'd really enjoy her company.



                                            Next up is the gym, where it's a big step up and sounds like a commitment.



                                            If she won't engage in limited healthy activity with you she's not going to go to the gym.



                                            Sometimes the gym is too regimented and one must bear public scrutiny, this can be too much for someone whom is self-conscious and interference by others even when one is fit is often not well received.



                                            Maybe you live in an apartment with a gym that is unused or there's a couples class for family exercise (that doesn't make it sound like you are proposing).



                                            Don't make each step a big deal, and don't heap praise on her for accomplishing some goal. Don't take the enjoyment out of doing something useful together that you both want to do.






                                            share|improve this answer












                                            Take smaller steps.



                                            First ask to go for a walk around the park, or to somewhere several blocks away. You don't want to take a bus, car, or your own vehicles; perhaps bike riding is OK, and a smaller step.



                                            Second explain that you go jogging for half an hour on particular days, ask that she join you. Next tell her you jog for an hour on a different day, and she should come along; you'd really enjoy her company.



                                            Next up is the gym, where it's a big step up and sounds like a commitment.



                                            If she won't engage in limited healthy activity with you she's not going to go to the gym.



                                            Sometimes the gym is too regimented and one must bear public scrutiny, this can be too much for someone whom is self-conscious and interference by others even when one is fit is often not well received.



                                            Maybe you live in an apartment with a gym that is unused or there's a couples class for family exercise (that doesn't make it sound like you are proposing).



                                            Don't make each step a big deal, and don't heap praise on her for accomplishing some goal. Don't take the enjoyment out of doing something useful together that you both want to do.







                                            share|improve this answer












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                                            answered Aug 26 at 0:56









                                            Rob

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                                            • 1




                                              Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
                                              – Arwen Undómiel
                                              Aug 26 at 9:26










                                            • The first sentence is self explanatory. The 5th, 6th, and 8th are certainly a clear explanation. Our communities at English Language Learners.SE and English.SE are eager to help. Answers and questions in comments bypass all our quality control mechanisms. Downvoting and then writing an 'explain yourself or else' comment doesn't meet the objectives we strive for in our new Code of Conduct.
                                              – Rob
                                              Aug 28 at 3:48











                                            • @Rob Different sites [can] have different policies about what's a good, on-topic answer -- for example answers on Skeptics.SE must be referenced, without exception. I'm new to this IPS.SE but their Meta policy reminds me of Good Subjective, Bad Subjective, which suggests that good answers are based on references or on personal experience.
                                              – ChrisW
                                              Aug 28 at 11:45












                                            • 1




                                              Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
                                              – Arwen Undómiel
                                              Aug 26 at 9:26










                                            • The first sentence is self explanatory. The 5th, 6th, and 8th are certainly a clear explanation. Our communities at English Language Learners.SE and English.SE are eager to help. Answers and questions in comments bypass all our quality control mechanisms. Downvoting and then writing an 'explain yourself or else' comment doesn't meet the objectives we strive for in our new Code of Conduct.
                                              – Rob
                                              Aug 28 at 3:48











                                            • @Rob Different sites [can] have different policies about what's a good, on-topic answer -- for example answers on Skeptics.SE must be referenced, without exception. I'm new to this IPS.SE but their Meta policy reminds me of Good Subjective, Bad Subjective, which suggests that good answers are based on references or on personal experience.
                                              – ChrisW
                                              Aug 28 at 11:45







                                            1




                                            1




                                            Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
                                            – Arwen Undómiel
                                            Aug 26 at 9:26




                                            Hey, thanks for the answer! Can you please explain exactly why you think that this is a good idea? Why do you say to take this course of action? What’s the thought process behind this answer? As this currently stands, this is essentially a “Try this!” answer. We require that answers provide some sort of explanation for why they are suggesting this solution, and unfortunately, at the moment this answer doesn't appear to do that.
                                            – Arwen Undómiel
                                            Aug 26 at 9:26












                                            The first sentence is self explanatory. The 5th, 6th, and 8th are certainly a clear explanation. Our communities at English Language Learners.SE and English.SE are eager to help. Answers and questions in comments bypass all our quality control mechanisms. Downvoting and then writing an 'explain yourself or else' comment doesn't meet the objectives we strive for in our new Code of Conduct.
                                            – Rob
                                            Aug 28 at 3:48





                                            The first sentence is self explanatory. The 5th, 6th, and 8th are certainly a clear explanation. Our communities at English Language Learners.SE and English.SE are eager to help. Answers and questions in comments bypass all our quality control mechanisms. Downvoting and then writing an 'explain yourself or else' comment doesn't meet the objectives we strive for in our new Code of Conduct.
                                            – Rob
                                            Aug 28 at 3:48













                                            @Rob Different sites [can] have different policies about what's a good, on-topic answer -- for example answers on Skeptics.SE must be referenced, without exception. I'm new to this IPS.SE but their Meta policy reminds me of Good Subjective, Bad Subjective, which suggests that good answers are based on references or on personal experience.
                                            – ChrisW
                                            Aug 28 at 11:45




                                            @Rob Different sites [can] have different policies about what's a good, on-topic answer -- for example answers on Skeptics.SE must be referenced, without exception. I'm new to this IPS.SE but their Meta policy reminds me of Good Subjective, Bad Subjective, which suggests that good answers are based on references or on personal experience.
                                            – ChrisW
                                            Aug 28 at 11:45










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                                            but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym
                                            membership lapse as a result.




                                            If you just want someone to go down the gym with you, just try to find someone else who will go with you, it sounds like it would be a lot easier and less painful for both of you.




                                            If your objective is to make your GF lose weight, then stop and actually ask her if she actually wants to lose weight.



                                            If she doesn't want to lose weight then don't try to force her to lose weight - accept her as she is. If you don't like her being overweight and you feel the need to change that then you might want to think whether you actually want to be in a relationship with her or not.



                                            If she does want to lose weight but doesn't want to go down the gym then find a different way to do it. Pick a physical activity that you can both do and enjoy without thinking about the fact you're losing weight, or perhaps do something in private so she doesn't have to worry about a load of strangers passing judgement on her, e.g. get a rowing machine or a treadmill.





                                            I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym
                                            regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase
                                            her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity




                                            I'd be interested to know why you think this.



                                            Insecurity about appearance doesn't come from being stereotypically ugly, it comes from fear of other people's opinions and fear of judgement by society for not being stereotypically attractive. Some people can look as stereotypically pretty as possible and still be insecure about their appearance. Often the best answer is not to change one's appearance, but to change one's outlook.



                                            I qualify 'stereotypically' here, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People find different features attractive, i.e. there are people who find overweight people attractive and skinny people unattractive despite that not being the social norm.




                                            So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting
                                            her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes?




                                            To reiterate, you can't make her go unless she actually wants to. You need to ask yourself "why do I want her to do to the gym?".



                                            If the answer is "for health reasons" then make sure you're not jumping the gun, she might already be adequately healthy, often diet is a bigger contributor to health than how active someone is. If she is unhealthy then you still need to ask if she wants to be healthy (not everyone cares about their health), and if she does then the answer isn't necessarily the gym - you should consult a health professional.



                                            If the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "to improve her self esteem" then consider seeing a psychiatrist/councellor instead. Self esteem problems are usually psychological issues that won't go away just by looking stereotypically attractive. Even stereotypically attractive people can have self esteem issues, self esteem is a psychological phenomenon, not a physical one. Self esteem issues are typically created from a mixture of the internal problem having a negative outlook on life and the external problem of society being judgemental.



                                            And of course if the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "because she's fat" then you really need to reevaluate why you're in this relationship. Getting into a relationship and then trying to change your partner isn't healthy. The point of a relationship is to be with someone you like, not to find someone and then try to turn them into what you want them to be.






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                                            • This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
                                              – DaveG
                                              Aug 28 at 20:10










                                            • @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
                                              – Pharap
                                              Aug 28 at 22:13














                                            up vote
                                            1
                                            down vote














                                            but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym
                                            membership lapse as a result.




                                            If you just want someone to go down the gym with you, just try to find someone else who will go with you, it sounds like it would be a lot easier and less painful for both of you.




                                            If your objective is to make your GF lose weight, then stop and actually ask her if she actually wants to lose weight.



                                            If she doesn't want to lose weight then don't try to force her to lose weight - accept her as she is. If you don't like her being overweight and you feel the need to change that then you might want to think whether you actually want to be in a relationship with her or not.



                                            If she does want to lose weight but doesn't want to go down the gym then find a different way to do it. Pick a physical activity that you can both do and enjoy without thinking about the fact you're losing weight, or perhaps do something in private so she doesn't have to worry about a load of strangers passing judgement on her, e.g. get a rowing machine or a treadmill.





                                            I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym
                                            regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase
                                            her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity




                                            I'd be interested to know why you think this.



                                            Insecurity about appearance doesn't come from being stereotypically ugly, it comes from fear of other people's opinions and fear of judgement by society for not being stereotypically attractive. Some people can look as stereotypically pretty as possible and still be insecure about their appearance. Often the best answer is not to change one's appearance, but to change one's outlook.



                                            I qualify 'stereotypically' here, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People find different features attractive, i.e. there are people who find overweight people attractive and skinny people unattractive despite that not being the social norm.




                                            So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting
                                            her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes?




                                            To reiterate, you can't make her go unless she actually wants to. You need to ask yourself "why do I want her to do to the gym?".



                                            If the answer is "for health reasons" then make sure you're not jumping the gun, she might already be adequately healthy, often diet is a bigger contributor to health than how active someone is. If she is unhealthy then you still need to ask if she wants to be healthy (not everyone cares about their health), and if she does then the answer isn't necessarily the gym - you should consult a health professional.



                                            If the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "to improve her self esteem" then consider seeing a psychiatrist/councellor instead. Self esteem problems are usually psychological issues that won't go away just by looking stereotypically attractive. Even stereotypically attractive people can have self esteem issues, self esteem is a psychological phenomenon, not a physical one. Self esteem issues are typically created from a mixture of the internal problem having a negative outlook on life and the external problem of society being judgemental.



                                            And of course if the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "because she's fat" then you really need to reevaluate why you're in this relationship. Getting into a relationship and then trying to change your partner isn't healthy. The point of a relationship is to be with someone you like, not to find someone and then try to turn them into what you want them to be.






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                                            • This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
                                              – DaveG
                                              Aug 28 at 20:10










                                            • @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
                                              – Pharap
                                              Aug 28 at 22:13












                                            up vote
                                            1
                                            down vote










                                            up vote
                                            1
                                            down vote










                                            but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym
                                            membership lapse as a result.




                                            If you just want someone to go down the gym with you, just try to find someone else who will go with you, it sounds like it would be a lot easier and less painful for both of you.




                                            If your objective is to make your GF lose weight, then stop and actually ask her if she actually wants to lose weight.



                                            If she doesn't want to lose weight then don't try to force her to lose weight - accept her as she is. If you don't like her being overweight and you feel the need to change that then you might want to think whether you actually want to be in a relationship with her or not.



                                            If she does want to lose weight but doesn't want to go down the gym then find a different way to do it. Pick a physical activity that you can both do and enjoy without thinking about the fact you're losing weight, or perhaps do something in private so she doesn't have to worry about a load of strangers passing judgement on her, e.g. get a rowing machine or a treadmill.





                                            I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym
                                            regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase
                                            her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity




                                            I'd be interested to know why you think this.



                                            Insecurity about appearance doesn't come from being stereotypically ugly, it comes from fear of other people's opinions and fear of judgement by society for not being stereotypically attractive. Some people can look as stereotypically pretty as possible and still be insecure about their appearance. Often the best answer is not to change one's appearance, but to change one's outlook.



                                            I qualify 'stereotypically' here, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People find different features attractive, i.e. there are people who find overweight people attractive and skinny people unattractive despite that not being the social norm.




                                            So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting
                                            her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes?




                                            To reiterate, you can't make her go unless she actually wants to. You need to ask yourself "why do I want her to do to the gym?".



                                            If the answer is "for health reasons" then make sure you're not jumping the gun, she might already be adequately healthy, often diet is a bigger contributor to health than how active someone is. If she is unhealthy then you still need to ask if she wants to be healthy (not everyone cares about their health), and if she does then the answer isn't necessarily the gym - you should consult a health professional.



                                            If the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "to improve her self esteem" then consider seeing a psychiatrist/councellor instead. Self esteem problems are usually psychological issues that won't go away just by looking stereotypically attractive. Even stereotypically attractive people can have self esteem issues, self esteem is a psychological phenomenon, not a physical one. Self esteem issues are typically created from a mixture of the internal problem having a negative outlook on life and the external problem of society being judgemental.



                                            And of course if the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "because she's fat" then you really need to reevaluate why you're in this relationship. Getting into a relationship and then trying to change your partner isn't healthy. The point of a relationship is to be with someone you like, not to find someone and then try to turn them into what you want them to be.






                                            share|improve this answer















                                            but I really struggle to motivate myself to go and let my gym
                                            membership lapse as a result.




                                            If you just want someone to go down the gym with you, just try to find someone else who will go with you, it sounds like it would be a lot easier and less painful for both of you.




                                            If your objective is to make your GF lose weight, then stop and actually ask her if she actually wants to lose weight.



                                            If she doesn't want to lose weight then don't try to force her to lose weight - accept her as she is. If you don't like her being overweight and you feel the need to change that then you might want to think whether you actually want to be in a relationship with her or not.



                                            If she does want to lose weight but doesn't want to go down the gym then find a different way to do it. Pick a physical activity that you can both do and enjoy without thinking about the fact you're losing weight, or perhaps do something in private so she doesn't have to worry about a load of strangers passing judgement on her, e.g. get a rowing machine or a treadmill.





                                            I think it would be good for both me and her to go to the gym
                                            regularly and I actually think if she got into it it would increase
                                            her self-esteem a lot and reduce the insecurity




                                            I'd be interested to know why you think this.



                                            Insecurity about appearance doesn't come from being stereotypically ugly, it comes from fear of other people's opinions and fear of judgement by society for not being stereotypically attractive. Some people can look as stereotypically pretty as possible and still be insecure about their appearance. Often the best answer is not to change one's appearance, but to change one's outlook.



                                            I qualify 'stereotypically' here, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People find different features attractive, i.e. there are people who find overweight people attractive and skinny people unattractive despite that not being the social norm.




                                            So how can I go about asking her to be my gym buddy without hurting
                                            her feelings, and with a decent chance she'll say yes?




                                            To reiterate, you can't make her go unless she actually wants to. You need to ask yourself "why do I want her to do to the gym?".



                                            If the answer is "for health reasons" then make sure you're not jumping the gun, she might already be adequately healthy, often diet is a bigger contributor to health than how active someone is. If she is unhealthy then you still need to ask if she wants to be healthy (not everyone cares about their health), and if she does then the answer isn't necessarily the gym - you should consult a health professional.



                                            If the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "to improve her self esteem" then consider seeing a psychiatrist/councellor instead. Self esteem problems are usually psychological issues that won't go away just by looking stereotypically attractive. Even stereotypically attractive people can have self esteem issues, self esteem is a psychological phenomenon, not a physical one. Self esteem issues are typically created from a mixture of the internal problem having a negative outlook on life and the external problem of society being judgemental.



                                            And of course if the answer to "why do I want her to go to the gym?" is "because she's fat" then you really need to reevaluate why you're in this relationship. Getting into a relationship and then trying to change your partner isn't healthy. The point of a relationship is to be with someone you like, not to find someone and then try to turn them into what you want them to be.







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                                            answered Aug 28 at 2:58









                                            Pharap

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                                            • This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
                                              – DaveG
                                              Aug 28 at 20:10










                                            • @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
                                              – Pharap
                                              Aug 28 at 22:13
















                                            • This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
                                              – DaveG
                                              Aug 28 at 20:10










                                            • @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
                                              – Pharap
                                              Aug 28 at 22:13















                                            This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
                                            – DaveG
                                            Aug 28 at 20:10




                                            This doesn't seem to answer the question at all. How would the OP ignoring his GF's insecurity about her body help her?
                                            – DaveG
                                            Aug 28 at 20:10












                                            @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
                                            – Pharap
                                            Aug 28 at 22:13




                                            @DaveG The question doesn't actually state what the OP's goal is. It's unclear whether the OP's goal is to help his GF resolve her insecuirty (in which case 'the gym' is almost certainly not the right answer) or whether the OP's goal is just to find a way of going to the gym more frequently. As such I have tried to provide as many solutions as possible and have edited more detail into my answer. For what it's worth, some people are pefectly content with being insecure and they don't consider it to be a problem.
                                            – Pharap
                                            Aug 28 at 22:13










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                                            I would stay clear from the thought that you somehow know what is good/best for her or for you both and that you have to convince her.



                                            Remind yourself that you are together with her, you are an "item". You are not responsible for her in any way. Feeling responsibility for the other is a sure recipe for disaster, since it introduces a kind of "power slope" between you and her - even if only in your own mind. Especially her body... that's her own responsibility for sure.



                                            To your question: simply go to the gym and ask her to come with you. Forget about your weights, that is inconsequential (or even harmful). Tell her that you want to spend the time with her, that you want to have a common activity, that it is boring without her, that you would love to have the "buddy" factor, that being "two" would be huge for your own motivation, and so on.



                                            Many people need artificial motivation to go to the gym, an easy one is gaming yourself with numbers (weights, duration, whatever). This works well for pairs as well, you can get a healthy competition going (not for absolute numbers, i.e., who can raise more weight, but to cheer each other on when, not if, motivation goes away).



                                            Don't even mention weights. If she mentions that she is to overweight for going to the gym, then handle that (make her aware that most people in a gym don't care a bit about other people, nobody will think bad about anyone, you yourself are overweight too, and so on).



                                            All of this assumes that there is even the slightest chance that she would actually enjoy the activity. If you already know that she does not like the general idea of gyms (i.e., the actual sport activity that is done there), then don't bother. In that case, just go on your own, enjoy it, and be done with it. Remove any rankling feelings about missing an opportunity to help her or something like that. You are not her daddy...






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                                              I would stay clear from the thought that you somehow know what is good/best for her or for you both and that you have to convince her.



                                              Remind yourself that you are together with her, you are an "item". You are not responsible for her in any way. Feeling responsibility for the other is a sure recipe for disaster, since it introduces a kind of "power slope" between you and her - even if only in your own mind. Especially her body... that's her own responsibility for sure.



                                              To your question: simply go to the gym and ask her to come with you. Forget about your weights, that is inconsequential (or even harmful). Tell her that you want to spend the time with her, that you want to have a common activity, that it is boring without her, that you would love to have the "buddy" factor, that being "two" would be huge for your own motivation, and so on.



                                              Many people need artificial motivation to go to the gym, an easy one is gaming yourself with numbers (weights, duration, whatever). This works well for pairs as well, you can get a healthy competition going (not for absolute numbers, i.e., who can raise more weight, but to cheer each other on when, not if, motivation goes away).



                                              Don't even mention weights. If she mentions that she is to overweight for going to the gym, then handle that (make her aware that most people in a gym don't care a bit about other people, nobody will think bad about anyone, you yourself are overweight too, and so on).



                                              All of this assumes that there is even the slightest chance that she would actually enjoy the activity. If you already know that she does not like the general idea of gyms (i.e., the actual sport activity that is done there), then don't bother. In that case, just go on your own, enjoy it, and be done with it. Remove any rankling feelings about missing an opportunity to help her or something like that. You are not her daddy...






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                                                I would stay clear from the thought that you somehow know what is good/best for her or for you both and that you have to convince her.



                                                Remind yourself that you are together with her, you are an "item". You are not responsible for her in any way. Feeling responsibility for the other is a sure recipe for disaster, since it introduces a kind of "power slope" between you and her - even if only in your own mind. Especially her body... that's her own responsibility for sure.



                                                To your question: simply go to the gym and ask her to come with you. Forget about your weights, that is inconsequential (or even harmful). Tell her that you want to spend the time with her, that you want to have a common activity, that it is boring without her, that you would love to have the "buddy" factor, that being "two" would be huge for your own motivation, and so on.



                                                Many people need artificial motivation to go to the gym, an easy one is gaming yourself with numbers (weights, duration, whatever). This works well for pairs as well, you can get a healthy competition going (not for absolute numbers, i.e., who can raise more weight, but to cheer each other on when, not if, motivation goes away).



                                                Don't even mention weights. If she mentions that she is to overweight for going to the gym, then handle that (make her aware that most people in a gym don't care a bit about other people, nobody will think bad about anyone, you yourself are overweight too, and so on).



                                                All of this assumes that there is even the slightest chance that she would actually enjoy the activity. If you already know that she does not like the general idea of gyms (i.e., the actual sport activity that is done there), then don't bother. In that case, just go on your own, enjoy it, and be done with it. Remove any rankling feelings about missing an opportunity to help her or something like that. You are not her daddy...






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                                                I would stay clear from the thought that you somehow know what is good/best for her or for you both and that you have to convince her.



                                                Remind yourself that you are together with her, you are an "item". You are not responsible for her in any way. Feeling responsibility for the other is a sure recipe for disaster, since it introduces a kind of "power slope" between you and her - even if only in your own mind. Especially her body... that's her own responsibility for sure.



                                                To your question: simply go to the gym and ask her to come with you. Forget about your weights, that is inconsequential (or even harmful). Tell her that you want to spend the time with her, that you want to have a common activity, that it is boring without her, that you would love to have the "buddy" factor, that being "two" would be huge for your own motivation, and so on.



                                                Many people need artificial motivation to go to the gym, an easy one is gaming yourself with numbers (weights, duration, whatever). This works well for pairs as well, you can get a healthy competition going (not for absolute numbers, i.e., who can raise more weight, but to cheer each other on when, not if, motivation goes away).



                                                Don't even mention weights. If she mentions that she is to overweight for going to the gym, then handle that (make her aware that most people in a gym don't care a bit about other people, nobody will think bad about anyone, you yourself are overweight too, and so on).



                                                All of this assumes that there is even the slightest chance that she would actually enjoy the activity. If you already know that she does not like the general idea of gyms (i.e., the actual sport activity that is done there), then don't bother. In that case, just go on your own, enjoy it, and be done with it. Remove any rankling feelings about missing an opportunity to help her or something like that. You are not her daddy...







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