Should I ask old internship boss for information

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This year I was studying Computer Science as a student, and today I got my first job offer. However the remuneration that the company offers me seems a bit low. Different friends that have just graduated the same degree as me had offers with higher salary too. I tried to bring this up to my interview but the boss said that he knew what the wage is.



Last year I did an internship in an other company. It went incredibly well and the boss of this company wanted to hire me but I declined because I wanted to continue my studies.



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Since I have no other professional reference, may I ask my old boss how much he would be ready to paid me (with my new degree)? If yes, how could I ask it?



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    Hi; welcome to the site. No need to apologize for your English, it's quite reasonable! You might want to clarify whether you're open to a position with your old company, though.
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  • FWIW, this information is useful in negotiation if you are prepared to walk away from the current offer. If you wouldn't actually take a job at the former employer, the number won't help much with the new employer.
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This year I was studying Computer Science as a student, and today I got my first job offer. However the remuneration that the company offers me seems a bit low. Different friends that have just graduated the same degree as me had offers with higher salary too. I tried to bring this up to my interview but the boss said that he knew what the wage is.



Last year I did an internship in an other company. It went incredibly well and the boss of this company wanted to hire me but I declined because I wanted to continue my studies.



Question



Since I have no other professional reference, may I ask my old boss how much he would be ready to paid me (with my new degree)? If yes, how could I ask it?



EDIT 1



In response to the comment of Joe : I'm not open to a position with my old company because it's location is no longer suitable.







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    Hi; welcome to the site. No need to apologize for your English, it's quite reasonable! You might want to clarify whether you're open to a position with your old company, though.
    – Joe
    Aug 23 at 14:28










  • FWIW, this information is useful in negotiation if you are prepared to walk away from the current offer. If you wouldn't actually take a job at the former employer, the number won't help much with the new employer.
    – cdkMoose
    Aug 23 at 16:01












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up vote
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This year I was studying Computer Science as a student, and today I got my first job offer. However the remuneration that the company offers me seems a bit low. Different friends that have just graduated the same degree as me had offers with higher salary too. I tried to bring this up to my interview but the boss said that he knew what the wage is.



Last year I did an internship in an other company. It went incredibly well and the boss of this company wanted to hire me but I declined because I wanted to continue my studies.



Question



Since I have no other professional reference, may I ask my old boss how much he would be ready to paid me (with my new degree)? If yes, how could I ask it?



EDIT 1



In response to the comment of Joe : I'm not open to a position with my old company because it's location is no longer suitable.







share|improve this question














Context



This year I was studying Computer Science as a student, and today I got my first job offer. However the remuneration that the company offers me seems a bit low. Different friends that have just graduated the same degree as me had offers with higher salary too. I tried to bring this up to my interview but the boss said that he knew what the wage is.



Last year I did an internship in an other company. It went incredibly well and the boss of this company wanted to hire me but I declined because I wanted to continue my studies.



Question



Since I have no other professional reference, may I ask my old boss how much he would be ready to paid me (with my new degree)? If yes, how could I ask it?



EDIT 1



In response to the comment of Joe : I'm not open to a position with my old company because it's location is no longer suitable.









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    Hi; welcome to the site. No need to apologize for your English, it's quite reasonable! You might want to clarify whether you're open to a position with your old company, though.
    – Joe
    Aug 23 at 14:28










  • FWIW, this information is useful in negotiation if you are prepared to walk away from the current offer. If you wouldn't actually take a job at the former employer, the number won't help much with the new employer.
    – cdkMoose
    Aug 23 at 16:01












  • 3




    Hi; welcome to the site. No need to apologize for your English, it's quite reasonable! You might want to clarify whether you're open to a position with your old company, though.
    – Joe
    Aug 23 at 14:28










  • FWIW, this information is useful in negotiation if you are prepared to walk away from the current offer. If you wouldn't actually take a job at the former employer, the number won't help much with the new employer.
    – cdkMoose
    Aug 23 at 16:01







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Hi; welcome to the site. No need to apologize for your English, it's quite reasonable! You might want to clarify whether you're open to a position with your old company, though.
– Joe
Aug 23 at 14:28




Hi; welcome to the site. No need to apologize for your English, it's quite reasonable! You might want to clarify whether you're open to a position with your old company, though.
– Joe
Aug 23 at 14:28












FWIW, this information is useful in negotiation if you are prepared to walk away from the current offer. If you wouldn't actually take a job at the former employer, the number won't help much with the new employer.
– cdkMoose
Aug 23 at 16:01




FWIW, this information is useful in negotiation if you are prepared to walk away from the current offer. If you wouldn't actually take a job at the former employer, the number won't help much with the new employer.
– cdkMoose
Aug 23 at 16:01










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You would be smart to explore all of your options before accepting a job offer that you feel is too low. It would absolutely be a good idea to get in contact with your former boss and see if the position is still open. You could say something like:




Hi Former Boss



I regret that when you wanted to hire me previously I couldn't commit to staying on full time as I wanted to finish my studies. I am now close to finishing my degree, and if you are still open to it I would be interested in discussing what opportunities are available with your company.




You don't want to ask him how much he'd be willing to pay you initially, but see if there's still an opportunity and the discussion will progress naturally towards how much you will get paid.
Edit: the reason you shouldn't jump directly to how much he'd pay you is that it's presumptive that he is going to jump at the chance to hire you and it may make him feel that you're just wanting to use him as leverage in contract negotiations with another company.






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    If you had a good relationship with your former boss, it's not unreasonable to ask.




    Hi [boss],



    Hope you're doing well. [some other pleasantries] I recently got a job offer from another company, but with a fairly low salary (around $x). I was wondering if you could give me an idea of what the current market salary is for someone with my skills?



    Thanks,



    Guillaume




    Also consider before you write whether you're open to a job offer from your former company or not; I wouldn't ask for one in this letter, but it's possible your former boss will come back to you with one.






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      If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
      – taffy
      Aug 23 at 14:34










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    You would be smart to explore all of your options before accepting a job offer that you feel is too low. It would absolutely be a good idea to get in contact with your former boss and see if the position is still open. You could say something like:




    Hi Former Boss



    I regret that when you wanted to hire me previously I couldn't commit to staying on full time as I wanted to finish my studies. I am now close to finishing my degree, and if you are still open to it I would be interested in discussing what opportunities are available with your company.




    You don't want to ask him how much he'd be willing to pay you initially, but see if there's still an opportunity and the discussion will progress naturally towards how much you will get paid.
    Edit: the reason you shouldn't jump directly to how much he'd pay you is that it's presumptive that he is going to jump at the chance to hire you and it may make him feel that you're just wanting to use him as leverage in contract negotiations with another company.






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      You would be smart to explore all of your options before accepting a job offer that you feel is too low. It would absolutely be a good idea to get in contact with your former boss and see if the position is still open. You could say something like:




      Hi Former Boss



      I regret that when you wanted to hire me previously I couldn't commit to staying on full time as I wanted to finish my studies. I am now close to finishing my degree, and if you are still open to it I would be interested in discussing what opportunities are available with your company.




      You don't want to ask him how much he'd be willing to pay you initially, but see if there's still an opportunity and the discussion will progress naturally towards how much you will get paid.
      Edit: the reason you shouldn't jump directly to how much he'd pay you is that it's presumptive that he is going to jump at the chance to hire you and it may make him feel that you're just wanting to use him as leverage in contract negotiations with another company.






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        You would be smart to explore all of your options before accepting a job offer that you feel is too low. It would absolutely be a good idea to get in contact with your former boss and see if the position is still open. You could say something like:




        Hi Former Boss



        I regret that when you wanted to hire me previously I couldn't commit to staying on full time as I wanted to finish my studies. I am now close to finishing my degree, and if you are still open to it I would be interested in discussing what opportunities are available with your company.




        You don't want to ask him how much he'd be willing to pay you initially, but see if there's still an opportunity and the discussion will progress naturally towards how much you will get paid.
        Edit: the reason you shouldn't jump directly to how much he'd pay you is that it's presumptive that he is going to jump at the chance to hire you and it may make him feel that you're just wanting to use him as leverage in contract negotiations with another company.






        share|improve this answer














        You would be smart to explore all of your options before accepting a job offer that you feel is too low. It would absolutely be a good idea to get in contact with your former boss and see if the position is still open. You could say something like:




        Hi Former Boss



        I regret that when you wanted to hire me previously I couldn't commit to staying on full time as I wanted to finish my studies. I am now close to finishing my degree, and if you are still open to it I would be interested in discussing what opportunities are available with your company.




        You don't want to ask him how much he'd be willing to pay you initially, but see if there's still an opportunity and the discussion will progress naturally towards how much you will get paid.
        Edit: the reason you shouldn't jump directly to how much he'd pay you is that it's presumptive that he is going to jump at the chance to hire you and it may make him feel that you're just wanting to use him as leverage in contract negotiations with another company.







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            If you had a good relationship with your former boss, it's not unreasonable to ask.




            Hi [boss],



            Hope you're doing well. [some other pleasantries] I recently got a job offer from another company, but with a fairly low salary (around $x). I was wondering if you could give me an idea of what the current market salary is for someone with my skills?



            Thanks,



            Guillaume




            Also consider before you write whether you're open to a job offer from your former company or not; I wouldn't ask for one in this letter, but it's possible your former boss will come back to you with one.






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              If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
              – taffy
              Aug 23 at 14:34














            up vote
            2
            down vote













            If you had a good relationship with your former boss, it's not unreasonable to ask.




            Hi [boss],



            Hope you're doing well. [some other pleasantries] I recently got a job offer from another company, but with a fairly low salary (around $x). I was wondering if you could give me an idea of what the current market salary is for someone with my skills?



            Thanks,



            Guillaume




            Also consider before you write whether you're open to a job offer from your former company or not; I wouldn't ask for one in this letter, but it's possible your former boss will come back to you with one.






            share|improve this answer
















            • 2




              If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
              – taffy
              Aug 23 at 14:34












            up vote
            2
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            up vote
            2
            down vote









            If you had a good relationship with your former boss, it's not unreasonable to ask.




            Hi [boss],



            Hope you're doing well. [some other pleasantries] I recently got a job offer from another company, but with a fairly low salary (around $x). I was wondering if you could give me an idea of what the current market salary is for someone with my skills?



            Thanks,



            Guillaume




            Also consider before you write whether you're open to a job offer from your former company or not; I wouldn't ask for one in this letter, but it's possible your former boss will come back to you with one.






            share|improve this answer












            If you had a good relationship with your former boss, it's not unreasonable to ask.




            Hi [boss],



            Hope you're doing well. [some other pleasantries] I recently got a job offer from another company, but with a fairly low salary (around $x). I was wondering if you could give me an idea of what the current market salary is for someone with my skills?



            Thanks,



            Guillaume




            Also consider before you write whether you're open to a job offer from your former company or not; I wouldn't ask for one in this letter, but it's possible your former boss will come back to you with one.







            share|improve this answer












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              If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
              – taffy
              Aug 23 at 14:34












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              If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
              – taffy
              Aug 23 at 14:34







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            If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
            – taffy
            Aug 23 at 14:34




            If @guillaume is open to a position at their internship company, it's not wise to say what the other offer is since boss might try to lowball their offer.
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