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What is the result with best play (in the diagram above) if it's white to move but there's a twist: White is allowed to place any white piece(s) anywhere on the board before his first move as long as the resulting position is legal (the position can be reached in any possible combination of moves).
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What is the result with best play (in the diagram above) if it's white to move but there's a twist: White is allowed to place any white piece(s) anywhere on the board before his first move as long as the resulting position is legal (the position can be reached in any possible combination of moves).
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have you got the moves that got into this position? (part of a 'is this chess position legit?' series)
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What is the result with best play (in the diagram above) if it's white to move but there's a twist: White is allowed to place any white piece(s) anywhere on the board before his first move as long as the resulting position is legal (the position can be reached in any possible combination of moves).
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What is the result with best play (in the diagram above) if it's white to move but there's a twist: White is allowed to place any white piece(s) anywhere on the board before his first move as long as the resulting position is legal (the position can be reached in any possible combination of moves).
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have you got the moves that got into this position? (part of a 'is this chess position legit?' series)
– JonMark Perry
Sep 9 at 8:50
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have you got the moves that got into this position? (part of a 'is this chess position legit?' series)
– JonMark Perry
Sep 9 at 8:50
have you got the moves that got into this position? (part of a 'is this chess position legit?' series)
– JonMark Perry
Sep 9 at 8:50
have you got the moves that got into this position? (part of a 'is this chess position legit?' series)
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The best move is:
Kxh2 to eventually force a draw by insufficient material or stalemate. (You capture the pawns (moving to f7 to force the h7 pawn to move and become capturable, if necessary), forcing a K-K endgame.)
Why?
The only way for all of these pawns to get to column h is for there to have already been 15 pawn captures by Black total: 1 for g7-h6, 2 for f7-g6-h5, 3 for e7-f6-g5-h4...
Of course, White only had 16 pieces at the start of the game. 15 have been captured, meaning no more white pieces can exist. So White's only option is to cause a stalemate.
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
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The black pawns
must have captured at least 15 pieces to reach that position;
hence
white can't place any piece on the board to arrive at a position that's legal (as white can have at most 16-15=1 piece on the board and there's already a king there.
If that wasn't true,
white could place a queen on f7 say and play Qf8#
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
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So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
The best move is:
Kxh2 to eventually force a draw by insufficient material or stalemate. (You capture the pawns (moving to f7 to force the h7 pawn to move and become capturable, if necessary), forcing a K-K endgame.)
Why?
The only way for all of these pawns to get to column h is for there to have already been 15 pawn captures by Black total: 1 for g7-h6, 2 for f7-g6-h5, 3 for e7-f6-g5-h4...
Of course, White only had 16 pieces at the start of the game. 15 have been captured, meaning no more white pieces can exist. So White's only option is to cause a stalemate.
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
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up vote
9
down vote
accepted
The best move is:
Kxh2 to eventually force a draw by insufficient material or stalemate. (You capture the pawns (moving to f7 to force the h7 pawn to move and become capturable, if necessary), forcing a K-K endgame.)
Why?
The only way for all of these pawns to get to column h is for there to have already been 15 pawn captures by Black total: 1 for g7-h6, 2 for f7-g6-h5, 3 for e7-f6-g5-h4...
Of course, White only had 16 pieces at the start of the game. 15 have been captured, meaning no more white pieces can exist. So White's only option is to cause a stalemate.
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
57.9k6199258
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up vote
9
down vote
accepted
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
The best move is:
Kxh2 to eventually force a draw by insufficient material or stalemate. (You capture the pawns (moving to f7 to force the h7 pawn to move and become capturable, if necessary), forcing a K-K endgame.)
Why?
The only way for all of these pawns to get to column h is for there to have already been 15 pawn captures by Black total: 1 for g7-h6, 2 for f7-g6-h5, 3 for e7-f6-g5-h4...
Of course, White only had 16 pieces at the start of the game. 15 have been captured, meaning no more white pieces can exist. So White's only option is to cause a stalemate.
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
57.9k6199258
The best move is:
Kxh2 to eventually force a draw by insufficient material or stalemate. (You capture the pawns (moving to f7 to force the h7 pawn to move and become capturable, if necessary), forcing a K-K endgame.)
Why?
The only way for all of these pawns to get to column h is for there to have already been 15 pawn captures by Black total: 1 for g7-h6, 2 for f7-g6-h5, 3 for e7-f6-g5-h4...
Of course, White only had 16 pieces at the start of the game. 15 have been captured, meaning no more white pieces can exist. So White's only option is to cause a stalemate.
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
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edited Sep 9 at 8:40
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
57.9k6199258
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
57.9k6199258
answered Sep 9 at 8:15
Deusovi♦
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57.9k6199258
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up vote
2
down vote
The black pawns
must have captured at least 15 pieces to reach that position;
hence
white can't place any piece on the board to arrive at a position that's legal (as white can have at most 16-15=1 piece on the board and there's already a king there.
If that wasn't true,
white could place a queen on f7 say and play Qf8#
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
The black pawns
must have captured at least 15 pieces to reach that position;
hence
white can't place any piece on the board to arrive at a position that's legal (as white can have at most 16-15=1 piece on the board and there's already a king there.
If that wasn't true,
white could place a queen on f7 say and play Qf8#
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
The black pawns
must have captured at least 15 pieces to reach that position;
hence
white can't place any piece on the board to arrive at a position that's legal (as white can have at most 16-15=1 piece on the board and there's already a king there.
If that wasn't true,
white could place a queen on f7 say and play Qf8#
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
The black pawns
must have captured at least 15 pieces to reach that position;
hence
white can't place any piece on the board to arrive at a position that's legal (as white can have at most 16-15=1 piece on the board and there's already a king there.
If that wasn't true,
white could place a queen on f7 say and play Qf8#
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
answered Sep 9 at 8:13
Wen1now
6,74812279
6,74812279
So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
So I assume you know the answer?
– ThyrsoidMouse73
Sep 9 at 8:19
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
@ThyrsoidMouse73 not necessarily; it is just a nice observation :P
– user477343
Sep 9 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
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have you got the moves that got into this position? (part of a 'is this chess position legit?' series)
– JonMark Perry
Sep 9 at 8:50