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As we can see in this movie poster for The Nun, the N is mirrored.
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What is the significance of this mirrored N? Is it related to the movie plot or character and in what way?
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So they can rip off Nine Inch Nails logo?
– Chris Clayton
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That, or they want to appeal to the Russian-speaking French audience: nui
– Juha Untinen
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So they can rip off Nine Inch Nails logo?
– Chris Clayton
yesterday
That, or they want to appeal to the Russian-speaking French audience: nui
– Juha Untinen
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So they can rip off Nine Inch Nails logo?
– Chris Clayton
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So they can rip off Nine Inch Nails logo?
– Chris Clayton
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That, or they want to appeal to the Russian-speaking French audience: nui
– Juha Untinen
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That, or they want to appeal to the Russian-speaking French audience: nui
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For me, it feels like it's based on a few reasons. That being said, I haven't found sources for these, it's solely my analysis.
Symmetry.
The word 'nun' is a palindrome, and a mirrored N makes it symmetric and visually appealing.
Duality.
Valak is a Demon, disguised as a Nun. He is the King of Hell, and is trapped in the house of God. He is the master of tricks and illusions. Just like the T in "the" is stylized to look like a Christian cross, the symmetric Ns symbolize the duality of this entity.
Corruption.
In recent times and certain cultures, inverted symbols very often represent their opposites. Inverted crosses, for example, are no longer the symbol of Christ, but of Hell. Heaven is up, Hell is down. A mirrored N can also symbolize the corruption of something pure, in this case the nuns from the convent.
Recently, however, it is common for the upside-down cross to be used as a symbol of atheism, humanism, and the occult. Upside-down crosses appear in horror movies such as The Conjuring as a signal of demonic activity. In these contexts, the obvious intent of the inverted cross is to declare an opposition to Christianity. Turning the cross upside down becomes a means of denying the truth of Christ and mocking His sacrifice.
For example, here is a parody of Conjuring 2, where Valak (this same demon!) turns all the crosses in the room to possess a character.
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I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
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An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
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@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
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BlueMoon93's answer seems spot-on, to me, particularly the part about inversion connoting subtle corruption or infestation. We see the same principle of "invert a random letter to indicate demonic stuff" happening in at least one other recent (2012) horror movie — not coincidentally, also nun-themed.
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Although I can't find a proper official source, from what I found it's the effect called The Backwards R(The Backwards ï effect).
My first Analysis
TvTropes states that The Nun is the earliest film in The Conjuring series chronologically, taking place in 1952, which also confirmed by producer Peter Safran.
From cinemablend
During the filming of Annabelle: Creation, Safran revealed that The
Nun would chronologically come first in The Conjuring franchise's
shared cinematic universe, making it as a further prequel to The
Conjuring series and Annabelle series. He said, "We have a board that
we created that has what we hope will ultimately be our series of
movies. We have it in chronological order, so we can keep track of
where it all happens.
Fact1
Wikipedia states that storyline to be,
The plot follows a priest and a Catholic novitiate as they uncover an
unholy secret in 1952 Romania.
Fact 2
From Wikipedia
Romanian Cyrillic alphabet used N and ɴ, instead of àand ý.
Coincidentally, the Cyrillic letter I ⟨Ø⟩, which looks like a reversed
Latin ⟨N⟩, was derived from the Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩ while the
Cyrillic letter En ⟨ÃÂ⟩ was derived from the Greek letter Nu ⟨ÎÂ⟩ which
looks like a reversed Cyrillic ⟨Ø⟩.
So
Since it was the earliest dated installment, and based on Romania, the backwards N was used to give out more feeling about the movie, the era that story was based on, location and also giving out some kind of feeling of older times dark magic and horrors. Consider the characters and locations in the movie like Valak, which is a goth/goetic demon, The St. Cârța Abbey which bears similarities with Romanian Cârța Monastery which all points out on the era that story takes place on. Not an official source based, but my observational analysis.
Or
My Second Analysis
If we further concentrated on the above mentioned backwards R effect, tvtropes states that,
In a lot of Western posters, you see something that could be called
"Faux Cyrillic" — replacing Latin characters with visually similar
Cyrillic ones, to make something look more Russian. Don't expect them
to be consistent with it, though.
This is because Cyrillic is based on medieval Greek completed with
Glagolitic (sometimes inspired by Hebrew — ц, ш) letters, but due to
reforms by Peter the Great, it has the same basic design principles as
the Latin alphabet (stroke thickness and placement, etc.). This has
resulted in an alphabet with letters that range from deceptively
familiar to the strikingly different. The Latin alphabet itself is
based — via the Etruscan/Old Italic one — on the archaic
(pre-classical) Greek one, and Hebrew and Greek scripts are based on
Phoenician script, so they are all related. Where the (English form of
the) Latin alphabet has twenty-six letters, the (Russian form of the)
Cyrillic alphabet has thirty-three.
The perpetrators ignore the fact that these letters are, in actual
Russian, pronounced completely differently from the Latin characters
they are supposed to represent, which results in unintended hilarity
for members of the audience who can read Cyrillic script.
Read more on Backwards R effect
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Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
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@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
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For me, it feels like it's based on a few reasons. That being said, I haven't found sources for these, it's solely my analysis.
Symmetry.
The word 'nun' is a palindrome, and a mirrored N makes it symmetric and visually appealing.
Duality.
Valak is a Demon, disguised as a Nun. He is the King of Hell, and is trapped in the house of God. He is the master of tricks and illusions. Just like the T in "the" is stylized to look like a Christian cross, the symmetric Ns symbolize the duality of this entity.
Corruption.
In recent times and certain cultures, inverted symbols very often represent their opposites. Inverted crosses, for example, are no longer the symbol of Christ, but of Hell. Heaven is up, Hell is down. A mirrored N can also symbolize the corruption of something pure, in this case the nuns from the convent.
Recently, however, it is common for the upside-down cross to be used as a symbol of atheism, humanism, and the occult. Upside-down crosses appear in horror movies such as The Conjuring as a signal of demonic activity. In these contexts, the obvious intent of the inverted cross is to declare an opposition to Christianity. Turning the cross upside down becomes a means of denying the truth of Christ and mocking His sacrifice.
For example, here is a parody of Conjuring 2, where Valak (this same demon!) turns all the crosses in the room to possess a character.
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BlueMoon93
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I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
2
An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
1
@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
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For me, it feels like it's based on a few reasons. That being said, I haven't found sources for these, it's solely my analysis.
Symmetry.
The word 'nun' is a palindrome, and a mirrored N makes it symmetric and visually appealing.
Duality.
Valak is a Demon, disguised as a Nun. He is the King of Hell, and is trapped in the house of God. He is the master of tricks and illusions. Just like the T in "the" is stylized to look like a Christian cross, the symmetric Ns symbolize the duality of this entity.
Corruption.
In recent times and certain cultures, inverted symbols very often represent their opposites. Inverted crosses, for example, are no longer the symbol of Christ, but of Hell. Heaven is up, Hell is down. A mirrored N can also symbolize the corruption of something pure, in this case the nuns from the convent.
Recently, however, it is common for the upside-down cross to be used as a symbol of atheism, humanism, and the occult. Upside-down crosses appear in horror movies such as The Conjuring as a signal of demonic activity. In these contexts, the obvious intent of the inverted cross is to declare an opposition to Christianity. Turning the cross upside down becomes a means of denying the truth of Christ and mocking His sacrifice.
For example, here is a parody of Conjuring 2, where Valak (this same demon!) turns all the crosses in the room to possess a character.
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BlueMoon93
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I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
2
An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
1
@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
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For me, it feels like it's based on a few reasons. That being said, I haven't found sources for these, it's solely my analysis.
Symmetry.
The word 'nun' is a palindrome, and a mirrored N makes it symmetric and visually appealing.
Duality.
Valak is a Demon, disguised as a Nun. He is the King of Hell, and is trapped in the house of God. He is the master of tricks and illusions. Just like the T in "the" is stylized to look like a Christian cross, the symmetric Ns symbolize the duality of this entity.
Corruption.
In recent times and certain cultures, inverted symbols very often represent their opposites. Inverted crosses, for example, are no longer the symbol of Christ, but of Hell. Heaven is up, Hell is down. A mirrored N can also symbolize the corruption of something pure, in this case the nuns from the convent.
Recently, however, it is common for the upside-down cross to be used as a symbol of atheism, humanism, and the occult. Upside-down crosses appear in horror movies such as The Conjuring as a signal of demonic activity. In these contexts, the obvious intent of the inverted cross is to declare an opposition to Christianity. Turning the cross upside down becomes a means of denying the truth of Christ and mocking His sacrifice.
For example, here is a parody of Conjuring 2, where Valak (this same demon!) turns all the crosses in the room to possess a character.
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For me, it feels like it's based on a few reasons. That being said, I haven't found sources for these, it's solely my analysis.
Symmetry.
The word 'nun' is a palindrome, and a mirrored N makes it symmetric and visually appealing.
Duality.
Valak is a Demon, disguised as a Nun. He is the King of Hell, and is trapped in the house of God. He is the master of tricks and illusions. Just like the T in "the" is stylized to look like a Christian cross, the symmetric Ns symbolize the duality of this entity.
Corruption.
In recent times and certain cultures, inverted symbols very often represent their opposites. Inverted crosses, for example, are no longer the symbol of Christ, but of Hell. Heaven is up, Hell is down. A mirrored N can also symbolize the corruption of something pure, in this case the nuns from the convent.
Recently, however, it is common for the upside-down cross to be used as a symbol of atheism, humanism, and the occult. Upside-down crosses appear in horror movies such as The Conjuring as a signal of demonic activity. In these contexts, the obvious intent of the inverted cross is to declare an opposition to Christianity. Turning the cross upside down becomes a means of denying the truth of Christ and mocking His sacrifice.
For example, here is a parody of Conjuring 2, where Valak (this same demon!) turns all the crosses in the room to possess a character.
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I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
2
An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
1
@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
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I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
2
An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
1
@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
I was looking for the proper word for that N. Nice analysis! A question: does it have to do anything with the reversed cross that appeared on the Maurice's body?
– A J
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
@AJ I hadn't thought of that! I don't think it is a direct connection, but the reversal of Christian symbols is also a great line of thought. I've added it to the answer
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
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An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
An inverted cross is the symbol of St Peter, the first Pope.
– OrangeDog
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
Can you elaborate on the duality part of your answer? To me, as someone who hasn't seen the movie in question, the argument in paragraph doesn't sound very compelling. To start, I fail to see why a three-letter word would symbolize duality even if it's a palindrome. Are there other, more obvious examples where this is the case? Also, what you say about Valak doesn't sound like there's much duality to him – he rather sounds like a one-dimensional devilish figure who uses an innocent disguise to trick humans. Would all characters who hide their evilness qualify as an embodiment of duality, then?
– Schmuddi
yesterday
1
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@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
@DarrenRinger The source link is on the previous sentence. Also, just watch any Conjuring movie and it is obvious
– BlueMoon93
yesterday
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BlueMoon93's answer seems spot-on, to me, particularly the part about inversion connoting subtle corruption or infestation. We see the same principle of "invert a random letter to indicate demonic stuff" happening in at least one other recent (2012) horror movie — not coincidentally, also nun-themed.
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BlueMoon93's answer seems spot-on, to me, particularly the part about inversion connoting subtle corruption or infestation. We see the same principle of "invert a random letter to indicate demonic stuff" happening in at least one other recent (2012) horror movie — not coincidentally, also nun-themed.
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Also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn:_Washington%27s_Spies
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up vote
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BlueMoon93's answer seems spot-on, to me, particularly the part about inversion connoting subtle corruption or infestation. We see the same principle of "invert a random letter to indicate demonic stuff" happening in at least one other recent (2012) horror movie — not coincidentally, also nun-themed.
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BlueMoon93's answer seems spot-on, to me, particularly the part about inversion connoting subtle corruption or infestation. We see the same principle of "invert a random letter to indicate demonic stuff" happening in at least one other recent (2012) horror movie — not coincidentally, also nun-themed.
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Also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn:_Washington%27s_Spies
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Also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn:_Washington%27s_Spies
– Pete Kirkham
19 hours ago
Also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn:_Washington%27s_Spies
– Pete Kirkham
19 hours ago
Also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn:_Washington%27s_Spies
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Although I can't find a proper official source, from what I found it's the effect called The Backwards R(The Backwards ï effect).
My first Analysis
TvTropes states that The Nun is the earliest film in The Conjuring series chronologically, taking place in 1952, which also confirmed by producer Peter Safran.
From cinemablend
During the filming of Annabelle: Creation, Safran revealed that The
Nun would chronologically come first in The Conjuring franchise's
shared cinematic universe, making it as a further prequel to The
Conjuring series and Annabelle series. He said, "We have a board that
we created that has what we hope will ultimately be our series of
movies. We have it in chronological order, so we can keep track of
where it all happens.
Fact1
Wikipedia states that storyline to be,
The plot follows a priest and a Catholic novitiate as they uncover an
unholy secret in 1952 Romania.
Fact 2
From Wikipedia
Romanian Cyrillic alphabet used N and ɴ, instead of àand ý.
Coincidentally, the Cyrillic letter I ⟨Ø⟩, which looks like a reversed
Latin ⟨N⟩, was derived from the Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩ while the
Cyrillic letter En ⟨ÃÂ⟩ was derived from the Greek letter Nu ⟨ÎÂ⟩ which
looks like a reversed Cyrillic ⟨Ø⟩.
So
Since it was the earliest dated installment, and based on Romania, the backwards N was used to give out more feeling about the movie, the era that story was based on, location and also giving out some kind of feeling of older times dark magic and horrors. Consider the characters and locations in the movie like Valak, which is a goth/goetic demon, The St. Cârța Abbey which bears similarities with Romanian Cârța Monastery which all points out on the era that story takes place on. Not an official source based, but my observational analysis.
Or
My Second Analysis
If we further concentrated on the above mentioned backwards R effect, tvtropes states that,
In a lot of Western posters, you see something that could be called
"Faux Cyrillic" — replacing Latin characters with visually similar
Cyrillic ones, to make something look more Russian. Don't expect them
to be consistent with it, though.
This is because Cyrillic is based on medieval Greek completed with
Glagolitic (sometimes inspired by Hebrew — ц, ш) letters, but due to
reforms by Peter the Great, it has the same basic design principles as
the Latin alphabet (stroke thickness and placement, etc.). This has
resulted in an alphabet with letters that range from deceptively
familiar to the strikingly different. The Latin alphabet itself is
based — via the Etruscan/Old Italic one — on the archaic
(pre-classical) Greek one, and Hebrew and Greek scripts are based on
Phoenician script, so they are all related. Where the (English form of
the) Latin alphabet has twenty-six letters, the (Russian form of the)
Cyrillic alphabet has thirty-three.
The perpetrators ignore the fact that these letters are, in actual
Russian, pronounced completely differently from the Latin characters
they are supposed to represent, which results in unintended hilarity
for members of the audience who can read Cyrillic script.
Read more on Backwards R effect
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Vishwa
4,91821953
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Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
yesterday
4
@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
– Vishwa
yesterday
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Although I can't find a proper official source, from what I found it's the effect called The Backwards R(The Backwards ï effect).
My first Analysis
TvTropes states that The Nun is the earliest film in The Conjuring series chronologically, taking place in 1952, which also confirmed by producer Peter Safran.
From cinemablend
During the filming of Annabelle: Creation, Safran revealed that The
Nun would chronologically come first in The Conjuring franchise's
shared cinematic universe, making it as a further prequel to The
Conjuring series and Annabelle series. He said, "We have a board that
we created that has what we hope will ultimately be our series of
movies. We have it in chronological order, so we can keep track of
where it all happens.
Fact1
Wikipedia states that storyline to be,
The plot follows a priest and a Catholic novitiate as they uncover an
unholy secret in 1952 Romania.
Fact 2
From Wikipedia
Romanian Cyrillic alphabet used N and ɴ, instead of àand ý.
Coincidentally, the Cyrillic letter I ⟨Ø⟩, which looks like a reversed
Latin ⟨N⟩, was derived from the Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩ while the
Cyrillic letter En ⟨ÃÂ⟩ was derived from the Greek letter Nu ⟨ÎÂ⟩ which
looks like a reversed Cyrillic ⟨Ø⟩.
So
Since it was the earliest dated installment, and based on Romania, the backwards N was used to give out more feeling about the movie, the era that story was based on, location and also giving out some kind of feeling of older times dark magic and horrors. Consider the characters and locations in the movie like Valak, which is a goth/goetic demon, The St. Cârța Abbey which bears similarities with Romanian Cârța Monastery which all points out on the era that story takes place on. Not an official source based, but my observational analysis.
Or
My Second Analysis
If we further concentrated on the above mentioned backwards R effect, tvtropes states that,
In a lot of Western posters, you see something that could be called
"Faux Cyrillic" — replacing Latin characters with visually similar
Cyrillic ones, to make something look more Russian. Don't expect them
to be consistent with it, though.
This is because Cyrillic is based on medieval Greek completed with
Glagolitic (sometimes inspired by Hebrew — ц, ш) letters, but due to
reforms by Peter the Great, it has the same basic design principles as
the Latin alphabet (stroke thickness and placement, etc.). This has
resulted in an alphabet with letters that range from deceptively
familiar to the strikingly different. The Latin alphabet itself is
based — via the Etruscan/Old Italic one — on the archaic
(pre-classical) Greek one, and Hebrew and Greek scripts are based on
Phoenician script, so they are all related. Where the (English form of
the) Latin alphabet has twenty-six letters, the (Russian form of the)
Cyrillic alphabet has thirty-three.
The perpetrators ignore the fact that these letters are, in actual
Russian, pronounced completely differently from the Latin characters
they are supposed to represent, which results in unintended hilarity
for members of the audience who can read Cyrillic script.
Read more on Backwards R effect
answered yesterday
Vishwa
4,91821953
7
Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
yesterday
4
@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
– Vishwa
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Although I can't find a proper official source, from what I found it's the effect called The Backwards R(The Backwards ï effect).
My first Analysis
TvTropes states that The Nun is the earliest film in The Conjuring series chronologically, taking place in 1952, which also confirmed by producer Peter Safran.
From cinemablend
During the filming of Annabelle: Creation, Safran revealed that The
Nun would chronologically come first in The Conjuring franchise's
shared cinematic universe, making it as a further prequel to The
Conjuring series and Annabelle series. He said, "We have a board that
we created that has what we hope will ultimately be our series of
movies. We have it in chronological order, so we can keep track of
where it all happens.
Fact1
Wikipedia states that storyline to be,
The plot follows a priest and a Catholic novitiate as they uncover an
unholy secret in 1952 Romania.
Fact 2
From Wikipedia
Romanian Cyrillic alphabet used N and ɴ, instead of àand ý.
Coincidentally, the Cyrillic letter I ⟨Ø⟩, which looks like a reversed
Latin ⟨N⟩, was derived from the Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩ while the
Cyrillic letter En ⟨ÃÂ⟩ was derived from the Greek letter Nu ⟨ÎÂ⟩ which
looks like a reversed Cyrillic ⟨Ø⟩.
So
Since it was the earliest dated installment, and based on Romania, the backwards N was used to give out more feeling about the movie, the era that story was based on, location and also giving out some kind of feeling of older times dark magic and horrors. Consider the characters and locations in the movie like Valak, which is a goth/goetic demon, The St. Cârța Abbey which bears similarities with Romanian Cârța Monastery which all points out on the era that story takes place on. Not an official source based, but my observational analysis.
Or
My Second Analysis
If we further concentrated on the above mentioned backwards R effect, tvtropes states that,
In a lot of Western posters, you see something that could be called
"Faux Cyrillic" — replacing Latin characters with visually similar
Cyrillic ones, to make something look more Russian. Don't expect them
to be consistent with it, though.
This is because Cyrillic is based on medieval Greek completed with
Glagolitic (sometimes inspired by Hebrew — ц, ш) letters, but due to
reforms by Peter the Great, it has the same basic design principles as
the Latin alphabet (stroke thickness and placement, etc.). This has
resulted in an alphabet with letters that range from deceptively
familiar to the strikingly different. The Latin alphabet itself is
based — via the Etruscan/Old Italic one — on the archaic
(pre-classical) Greek one, and Hebrew and Greek scripts are based on
Phoenician script, so they are all related. Where the (English form of
the) Latin alphabet has twenty-six letters, the (Russian form of the)
Cyrillic alphabet has thirty-three.
The perpetrators ignore the fact that these letters are, in actual
Russian, pronounced completely differently from the Latin characters
they are supposed to represent, which results in unintended hilarity
for members of the audience who can read Cyrillic script.
Read more on Backwards R effect
answered yesterday
Vishwa
4,91821953
Although I can't find a proper official source, from what I found it's the effect called The Backwards R(The Backwards ï effect).
My first Analysis
TvTropes states that The Nun is the earliest film in The Conjuring series chronologically, taking place in 1952, which also confirmed by producer Peter Safran.
From cinemablend
During the filming of Annabelle: Creation, Safran revealed that The
Nun would chronologically come first in The Conjuring franchise's
shared cinematic universe, making it as a further prequel to The
Conjuring series and Annabelle series. He said, "We have a board that
we created that has what we hope will ultimately be our series of
movies. We have it in chronological order, so we can keep track of
where it all happens.
Fact1
Wikipedia states that storyline to be,
The plot follows a priest and a Catholic novitiate as they uncover an
unholy secret in 1952 Romania.
Fact 2
From Wikipedia
Romanian Cyrillic alphabet used N and ɴ, instead of àand ý.
Coincidentally, the Cyrillic letter I ⟨Ø⟩, which looks like a reversed
Latin ⟨N⟩, was derived from the Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩ while the
Cyrillic letter En ⟨ÃÂ⟩ was derived from the Greek letter Nu ⟨ÎÂ⟩ which
looks like a reversed Cyrillic ⟨Ø⟩.
So
Since it was the earliest dated installment, and based on Romania, the backwards N was used to give out more feeling about the movie, the era that story was based on, location and also giving out some kind of feeling of older times dark magic and horrors. Consider the characters and locations in the movie like Valak, which is a goth/goetic demon, The St. Cârța Abbey which bears similarities with Romanian Cârța Monastery which all points out on the era that story takes place on. Not an official source based, but my observational analysis.
Or
My Second Analysis
If we further concentrated on the above mentioned backwards R effect, tvtropes states that,
In a lot of Western posters, you see something that could be called
"Faux Cyrillic" — replacing Latin characters with visually similar
Cyrillic ones, to make something look more Russian. Don't expect them
to be consistent with it, though.
This is because Cyrillic is based on medieval Greek completed with
Glagolitic (sometimes inspired by Hebrew — ц, ш) letters, but due to
reforms by Peter the Great, it has the same basic design principles as
the Latin alphabet (stroke thickness and placement, etc.). This has
resulted in an alphabet with letters that range from deceptively
familiar to the strikingly different. The Latin alphabet itself is
based — via the Etruscan/Old Italic one — on the archaic
(pre-classical) Greek one, and Hebrew and Greek scripts are based on
Phoenician script, so they are all related. Where the (English form of
the) Latin alphabet has twenty-six letters, the (Russian form of the)
Cyrillic alphabet has thirty-three.
The perpetrators ignore the fact that these letters are, in actual
Russian, pronounced completely differently from the Latin characters
they are supposed to represent, which results in unintended hilarity
for members of the audience who can read Cyrillic script.
Read more on Backwards R effect
answered yesterday
Vishwa
4,91821953
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Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
yesterday
4
@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
– Vishwa
yesterday
add a comment |Â
7
Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
yesterday
4
@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
– Vishwa
yesterday
7
7
Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
Romania hasn't used Cyrillic since 1862; I'm not really seeing the link with all this Russia stuff
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
2
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Plenty of media use faux-cyrillic lettering for evocation of Eastern Europe, communism, and the like, regardless of orthographical accuracy. I haven’t seen this film so I don’t know if they’re going for such an atmosphere there, but if it does have that sort of backdrop in general, then it seems very plausible that the use of Ø is intended in part to evoke that (besides the other connotations mentioned in BlueMoon’s answer).
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
yesterday
4
4
@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@PeterLeFanuLumsdaine Then that would be pretty tenuous if that's what they're going for. Rather like using Japanese characters to evoke an image of India, just because it's "far away" from your home audience! I don't think I know anyone who would associate Romania with Cyrillic lettering
– Lightness Races in Orbit
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Completely agree. Only Bulgaria and some of the ex-Soviet republics use Cyrillic.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
– Vishwa
yesterday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Backward R effect is the commonly used term on something like that.. that's just the name of the effect. My answer is more concerned on goth romainian mythical era rather than russian letters
– Vishwa
yesterday
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So they can rip off Nine Inch Nails logo?
– Chris Clayton
yesterday
That, or they want to appeal to the Russian-speaking French audience: nui
– Juha Untinen
19 hours ago