Should I report a coworker that has inflated their timesheet?

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I was recently in a position where I was able to see the timesheet of a co-worker(private information, and I should not have seen it). Our standard work day is 7.5 hours with flexible overtime. They said they worked 9.25 hours but I witnessed them only working 7 hours including lunch. This person has been with the company a lot longer than I have and has a higher position.



Is it appropriate for me to report this? Are their risks to me if I do not?







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    It is none of your business.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:16






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    And do you know if the person worked from home during other hours of the day?
    – HLGEM
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:19






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    I saw this happen in my early career where someone reported the same thing about another worker. What the person reporting didn't know was that the manager had given permission to work a certain number of hours from home because of a temporary family situation. Anyways, word spread that person A reported on person B. Person A eventually came to be an office pariah over this matter. Just go to work and worry about your job and your responsibilities, not anyone else's.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:24











  • Voting to keep open because ethics is on topic. meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/454/437
    – Jim G.
    Apr 25 '14 at 1:10






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    @Dunk - it becomes the OP's business when someone asks why you don't work as much as the other guy or how can you have the same hours when you arrive and leave at the same time?
    – user8365
    Apr 25 '14 at 19:04
















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I was recently in a position where I was able to see the timesheet of a co-worker(private information, and I should not have seen it). Our standard work day is 7.5 hours with flexible overtime. They said they worked 9.25 hours but I witnessed them only working 7 hours including lunch. This person has been with the company a lot longer than I have and has a higher position.



Is it appropriate for me to report this? Are their risks to me if I do not?







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  • 17




    It is none of your business.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:16






  • 4




    And do you know if the person worked from home during other hours of the day?
    – HLGEM
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:19






  • 6




    I saw this happen in my early career where someone reported the same thing about another worker. What the person reporting didn't know was that the manager had given permission to work a certain number of hours from home because of a temporary family situation. Anyways, word spread that person A reported on person B. Person A eventually came to be an office pariah over this matter. Just go to work and worry about your job and your responsibilities, not anyone else's.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:24











  • Voting to keep open because ethics is on topic. meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/454/437
    – Jim G.
    Apr 25 '14 at 1:10






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    @Dunk - it becomes the OP's business when someone asks why you don't work as much as the other guy or how can you have the same hours when you arrive and leave at the same time?
    – user8365
    Apr 25 '14 at 19:04












up vote
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up vote
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I was recently in a position where I was able to see the timesheet of a co-worker(private information, and I should not have seen it). Our standard work day is 7.5 hours with flexible overtime. They said they worked 9.25 hours but I witnessed them only working 7 hours including lunch. This person has been with the company a lot longer than I have and has a higher position.



Is it appropriate for me to report this? Are their risks to me if I do not?







share|improve this question














I was recently in a position where I was able to see the timesheet of a co-worker(private information, and I should not have seen it). Our standard work day is 7.5 hours with flexible overtime. They said they worked 9.25 hours but I witnessed them only working 7 hours including lunch. This person has been with the company a lot longer than I have and has a higher position.



Is it appropriate for me to report this? Are their risks to me if I do not?









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  • 17




    It is none of your business.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:16






  • 4




    And do you know if the person worked from home during other hours of the day?
    – HLGEM
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:19






  • 6




    I saw this happen in my early career where someone reported the same thing about another worker. What the person reporting didn't know was that the manager had given permission to work a certain number of hours from home because of a temporary family situation. Anyways, word spread that person A reported on person B. Person A eventually came to be an office pariah over this matter. Just go to work and worry about your job and your responsibilities, not anyone else's.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:24











  • Voting to keep open because ethics is on topic. meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/454/437
    – Jim G.
    Apr 25 '14 at 1:10






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    @Dunk - it becomes the OP's business when someone asks why you don't work as much as the other guy or how can you have the same hours when you arrive and leave at the same time?
    – user8365
    Apr 25 '14 at 19:04












  • 17




    It is none of your business.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:16






  • 4




    And do you know if the person worked from home during other hours of the day?
    – HLGEM
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:19






  • 6




    I saw this happen in my early career where someone reported the same thing about another worker. What the person reporting didn't know was that the manager had given permission to work a certain number of hours from home because of a temporary family situation. Anyways, word spread that person A reported on person B. Person A eventually came to be an office pariah over this matter. Just go to work and worry about your job and your responsibilities, not anyone else's.
    – Dunk
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:24











  • Voting to keep open because ethics is on topic. meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/454/437
    – Jim G.
    Apr 25 '14 at 1:10






  • 1




    @Dunk - it becomes the OP's business when someone asks why you don't work as much as the other guy or how can you have the same hours when you arrive and leave at the same time?
    – user8365
    Apr 25 '14 at 19:04







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17




It is none of your business.
– Dunk
Apr 24 '14 at 20:16




It is none of your business.
– Dunk
Apr 24 '14 at 20:16




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4




And do you know if the person worked from home during other hours of the day?
– HLGEM
Apr 24 '14 at 20:19




And do you know if the person worked from home during other hours of the day?
– HLGEM
Apr 24 '14 at 20:19




6




6




I saw this happen in my early career where someone reported the same thing about another worker. What the person reporting didn't know was that the manager had given permission to work a certain number of hours from home because of a temporary family situation. Anyways, word spread that person A reported on person B. Person A eventually came to be an office pariah over this matter. Just go to work and worry about your job and your responsibilities, not anyone else's.
– Dunk
Apr 24 '14 at 20:24





I saw this happen in my early career where someone reported the same thing about another worker. What the person reporting didn't know was that the manager had given permission to work a certain number of hours from home because of a temporary family situation. Anyways, word spread that person A reported on person B. Person A eventually came to be an office pariah over this matter. Just go to work and worry about your job and your responsibilities, not anyone else's.
– Dunk
Apr 24 '14 at 20:24













Voting to keep open because ethics is on topic. meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/454/437
– Jim G.
Apr 25 '14 at 1:10




Voting to keep open because ethics is on topic. meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/454/437
– Jim G.
Apr 25 '14 at 1:10




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@Dunk - it becomes the OP's business when someone asks why you don't work as much as the other guy or how can you have the same hours when you arrive and leave at the same time?
– user8365
Apr 25 '14 at 19:04




@Dunk - it becomes the OP's business when someone asks why you don't work as much as the other guy or how can you have the same hours when you arrive and leave at the same time?
– user8365
Apr 25 '14 at 19:04










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No, unless your duties include signing timesheets/monitoring hours.



My advice is to stay out of it. Consider the following points:




  • Perhaps they worked from home?



    Are you absolutely 100% sure that you know exactly what is going on, and are prepared for the impact of your accusation? Mistakenly accusing people of inflating time sheets will surely damage your relationship/career prospects.




  • Perhaps they worked overtime before and were not allowed to book it for whatever reason?



    This happened to me personally - we had an artificial 'cap' on hours we were allowed to work, so management asked us to book our overtime at a later month.




  • It is simply not your job to monitor hours worked.



    Once you start doing this, you are effectively stepping on your manager's toes. The dangerous implication is that they are not doing their job. The dangerous assumption is that they don't already know about this person cutting hours. Maybe this person inflates timesheets, and the manager is aware of it, but the person is so so productive that they are letting it slide. You don't have the information, or the authority to act on this matter.




  • What are you trying to achieve by this anyway?



    There is absolutely no rational upside in 'reporting' your coworker.



One thing to note: if you feel that this employee is not pulling their weight, then you can approach your manager and tell her/him that. If you believe this employee hasn't been there when they needed to be, you can tell your manager that. As it stands, what you perceive to be a problem has no bearing on your work, and thus it should be none of your concern.






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  • not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
    – user19006
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:37






  • 5




    @user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:52

















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It is appropriate if you have been told by your manager to monitor your coworker's working hours. If you have not been told by your manager to do that, it's not appropriate. You run the risk of looking like you yourself are not doing any work. ("If you have time to log your coworker's hours, you need more work")



It is up to the manager to look for and detect these things. Snitching over petty things you are not completely privy to won't build a lot of political capital.






share|improve this answer


















  • 1




    I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:40










  • Point taken--rewording
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:42






  • 1




    You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:47






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    It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:58










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No, unless your duties include signing timesheets/monitoring hours.



My advice is to stay out of it. Consider the following points:




  • Perhaps they worked from home?



    Are you absolutely 100% sure that you know exactly what is going on, and are prepared for the impact of your accusation? Mistakenly accusing people of inflating time sheets will surely damage your relationship/career prospects.




  • Perhaps they worked overtime before and were not allowed to book it for whatever reason?



    This happened to me personally - we had an artificial 'cap' on hours we were allowed to work, so management asked us to book our overtime at a later month.




  • It is simply not your job to monitor hours worked.



    Once you start doing this, you are effectively stepping on your manager's toes. The dangerous implication is that they are not doing their job. The dangerous assumption is that they don't already know about this person cutting hours. Maybe this person inflates timesheets, and the manager is aware of it, but the person is so so productive that they are letting it slide. You don't have the information, or the authority to act on this matter.




  • What are you trying to achieve by this anyway?



    There is absolutely no rational upside in 'reporting' your coworker.



One thing to note: if you feel that this employee is not pulling their weight, then you can approach your manager and tell her/him that. If you believe this employee hasn't been there when they needed to be, you can tell your manager that. As it stands, what you perceive to be a problem has no bearing on your work, and thus it should be none of your concern.






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  • not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
    – user19006
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:37






  • 5




    @user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:52














up vote
28
down vote



accepted










No, unless your duties include signing timesheets/monitoring hours.



My advice is to stay out of it. Consider the following points:




  • Perhaps they worked from home?



    Are you absolutely 100% sure that you know exactly what is going on, and are prepared for the impact of your accusation? Mistakenly accusing people of inflating time sheets will surely damage your relationship/career prospects.




  • Perhaps they worked overtime before and were not allowed to book it for whatever reason?



    This happened to me personally - we had an artificial 'cap' on hours we were allowed to work, so management asked us to book our overtime at a later month.




  • It is simply not your job to monitor hours worked.



    Once you start doing this, you are effectively stepping on your manager's toes. The dangerous implication is that they are not doing their job. The dangerous assumption is that they don't already know about this person cutting hours. Maybe this person inflates timesheets, and the manager is aware of it, but the person is so so productive that they are letting it slide. You don't have the information, or the authority to act on this matter.




  • What are you trying to achieve by this anyway?



    There is absolutely no rational upside in 'reporting' your coworker.



One thing to note: if you feel that this employee is not pulling their weight, then you can approach your manager and tell her/him that. If you believe this employee hasn't been there when they needed to be, you can tell your manager that. As it stands, what you perceive to be a problem has no bearing on your work, and thus it should be none of your concern.






share|improve this answer




















  • not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
    – user19006
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:37






  • 5




    @user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:52












up vote
28
down vote



accepted







up vote
28
down vote



accepted






No, unless your duties include signing timesheets/monitoring hours.



My advice is to stay out of it. Consider the following points:




  • Perhaps they worked from home?



    Are you absolutely 100% sure that you know exactly what is going on, and are prepared for the impact of your accusation? Mistakenly accusing people of inflating time sheets will surely damage your relationship/career prospects.




  • Perhaps they worked overtime before and were not allowed to book it for whatever reason?



    This happened to me personally - we had an artificial 'cap' on hours we were allowed to work, so management asked us to book our overtime at a later month.




  • It is simply not your job to monitor hours worked.



    Once you start doing this, you are effectively stepping on your manager's toes. The dangerous implication is that they are not doing their job. The dangerous assumption is that they don't already know about this person cutting hours. Maybe this person inflates timesheets, and the manager is aware of it, but the person is so so productive that they are letting it slide. You don't have the information, or the authority to act on this matter.




  • What are you trying to achieve by this anyway?



    There is absolutely no rational upside in 'reporting' your coworker.



One thing to note: if you feel that this employee is not pulling their weight, then you can approach your manager and tell her/him that. If you believe this employee hasn't been there when they needed to be, you can tell your manager that. As it stands, what you perceive to be a problem has no bearing on your work, and thus it should be none of your concern.






share|improve this answer












No, unless your duties include signing timesheets/monitoring hours.



My advice is to stay out of it. Consider the following points:




  • Perhaps they worked from home?



    Are you absolutely 100% sure that you know exactly what is going on, and are prepared for the impact of your accusation? Mistakenly accusing people of inflating time sheets will surely damage your relationship/career prospects.




  • Perhaps they worked overtime before and were not allowed to book it for whatever reason?



    This happened to me personally - we had an artificial 'cap' on hours we were allowed to work, so management asked us to book our overtime at a later month.




  • It is simply not your job to monitor hours worked.



    Once you start doing this, you are effectively stepping on your manager's toes. The dangerous implication is that they are not doing their job. The dangerous assumption is that they don't already know about this person cutting hours. Maybe this person inflates timesheets, and the manager is aware of it, but the person is so so productive that they are letting it slide. You don't have the information, or the authority to act on this matter.




  • What are you trying to achieve by this anyway?



    There is absolutely no rational upside in 'reporting' your coworker.



One thing to note: if you feel that this employee is not pulling their weight, then you can approach your manager and tell her/him that. If you believe this employee hasn't been there when they needed to be, you can tell your manager that. As it stands, what you perceive to be a problem has no bearing on your work, and thus it should be none of your concern.







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  • not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
    – user19006
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:37






  • 5




    @user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:52
















  • not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
    – user19006
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:37






  • 5




    @user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:52















not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
– user19006
Apr 24 '14 at 20:37




not pulling their weight - I think this is the root cause of my frustration. I will approach it from this angle. Thank you.
– user19006
Apr 24 '14 at 20:37




5




5




@user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:43




@user19006 - Then you should probably focus on making sure that you are pulling more than your weight while making sure it is visible that your coworker is not.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:43




1




1




I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:52




I think this is a great answer. It explains why very well.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:52












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It is appropriate if you have been told by your manager to monitor your coworker's working hours. If you have not been told by your manager to do that, it's not appropriate. You run the risk of looking like you yourself are not doing any work. ("If you have time to log your coworker's hours, you need more work")



It is up to the manager to look for and detect these things. Snitching over petty things you are not completely privy to won't build a lot of political capital.






share|improve this answer


















  • 1




    I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:40










  • Point taken--rewording
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:42






  • 1




    You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:47






  • 1




    It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:58














up vote
3
down vote













It is appropriate if you have been told by your manager to monitor your coworker's working hours. If you have not been told by your manager to do that, it's not appropriate. You run the risk of looking like you yourself are not doing any work. ("If you have time to log your coworker's hours, you need more work")



It is up to the manager to look for and detect these things. Snitching over petty things you are not completely privy to won't build a lot of political capital.






share|improve this answer


















  • 1




    I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:40










  • Point taken--rewording
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:42






  • 1




    You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:47






  • 1




    It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:58












up vote
3
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up vote
3
down vote









It is appropriate if you have been told by your manager to monitor your coworker's working hours. If you have not been told by your manager to do that, it's not appropriate. You run the risk of looking like you yourself are not doing any work. ("If you have time to log your coworker's hours, you need more work")



It is up to the manager to look for and detect these things. Snitching over petty things you are not completely privy to won't build a lot of political capital.






share|improve this answer














It is appropriate if you have been told by your manager to monitor your coworker's working hours. If you have not been told by your manager to do that, it's not appropriate. You run the risk of looking like you yourself are not doing any work. ("If you have time to log your coworker's hours, you need more work")



It is up to the manager to look for and detect these things. Snitching over petty things you are not completely privy to won't build a lot of political capital.







share|improve this answer














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answered Apr 24 '14 at 20:18









Garrison Neely

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  • 1




    I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:40










  • Point taken--rewording
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:42






  • 1




    You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:47






  • 1




    It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:58












  • 1




    I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:40










  • Point taken--rewording
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:42






  • 1




    You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:43






  • 1




    I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
    – Garrison Neely
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:47






  • 1




    It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
    – IDrinkandIKnowThings
    Apr 24 '14 at 20:58







1




1




I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:40




I am not saying he should report it. But "not being a snitch" is not a good reason to or not to do anything.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:40












Point taken--rewording
– Garrison Neely
Apr 24 '14 at 20:42




Point taken--rewording
– Garrison Neely
Apr 24 '14 at 20:42




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You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:43




You said the same thing though just slightly less bluntly
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:43




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I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
– Garrison Neely
Apr 24 '14 at 20:47




I disagree. In the workplace, others' view of you is important. And in this instance, snitching on a coworker without knowing the whole picture doesn't net the asker any benefit.
– Garrison Neely
Apr 24 '14 at 20:47




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It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Apr 24 '14 at 20:58




It is pretty apparent that the OP thinks it is and your answer has not even attempted to show it otherwise.
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