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Most countries have smoke-free workplace, this is really really the minimum acceptable in my opinion, but even with that, I find it very hard to enter or leave a building without entering those toxic clouds.
People smoking often doesn't consider the wind direction, and it even seems they are less in danger than the smoke stream spreading with wind to other people
Problem: in my country (France) ashtrays are systematically in front of doors, and people are smoking directly there, I've contacted the company renting the offices, explaining the advantage of putting ashtrays farther, no replies yet, they surely don't care, without any more incentive or law
Question: What could you suggest?
Below are sources pretty scary concerning Environmental Tobacco Smoke, that caused me this fumiphobia, that should normally make stop any smoker instantly and permanently. I'm really keeping breath, optimizing my way for not taking even 0.1% of ETS (you will think it' excessive, but there is no smoke exposure threshold known at this time, any theshold might cause harm):
-Is PM2.5 From Air Pollution The Same As From Smoking?
-Proposed Identification of
Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a
Toxic Air Contaminant
-Particulate matter from tobacco versus diesel car exhaust
-Chemistry and Toxicology of Cigarette Smoke and Biomarkers of Exposure and Harm
health
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
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closed as primarily opinion-based by yoozer8 Mar 27 '14 at 15:49
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Most countries have smoke-free workplace, this is really really the minimum acceptable in my opinion, but even with that, I find it very hard to enter or leave a building without entering those toxic clouds.
People smoking often doesn't consider the wind direction, and it even seems they are less in danger than the smoke stream spreading with wind to other people
Problem: in my country (France) ashtrays are systematically in front of doors, and people are smoking directly there, I've contacted the company renting the offices, explaining the advantage of putting ashtrays farther, no replies yet, they surely don't care, without any more incentive or law
Question: What could you suggest?
Below are sources pretty scary concerning Environmental Tobacco Smoke, that caused me this fumiphobia, that should normally make stop any smoker instantly and permanently. I'm really keeping breath, optimizing my way for not taking even 0.1% of ETS (you will think it' excessive, but there is no smoke exposure threshold known at this time, any theshold might cause harm):
-Is PM2.5 From Air Pollution The Same As From Smoking?
-Proposed Identification of
Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a
Toxic Air Contaminant
-Particulate matter from tobacco versus diesel car exhaust
-Chemistry and Toxicology of Cigarette Smoke and Biomarkers of Exposure and Harm
health
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
caub
944
closed as primarily opinion-based by yoozer8 Mar 27 '14 at 15:49
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
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I think you forgot to actually ask a question.
– Philipp
Mar 27 '14 at 15:12
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Asking broadly for general advice or for people's attitude/opinion is off-topic. Do you have a specific problem you are trying to solve? If so, could you edit your question to describe what your problem is and how you would like to solve it?
– yoozer8
Mar 27 '14 at 15:52
@Jim there, sorry I don't mean to put a polemic question, does it sound as such? There are advanced countries on these topics, there others really far, and I hope to make minds change, this is not a normal situation to breath smoke, I hope people thinking so change their mind
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 19:44
You seem to be asking a much broader question than one specifically about the workplace. It sounds like you want to move ashtrays everywhere (you mentioned supermarkets, for example). I suggest focusing this on the problem you face at your workplace. I also don't think we need to see the anti-smoking argument; this isn't a health site. Your problem is that you are uncomfortable with the smoke clouds (I'm with you there) and you want to be able to get to and from your workplace unmolested by it, right?
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 27 '14 at 23:12
@MonicaCellio thanks yes, it's a stress that I live personally very strongly, unfortunately it's a broader sociological issue so I understand why the topic is almost closed. There is no easy solution apart from moving away, in my country the ground is covered by butts, unlike other countries where people are responsible
– caub
Mar 28 '14 at 0:21
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Most countries have smoke-free workplace, this is really really the minimum acceptable in my opinion, but even with that, I find it very hard to enter or leave a building without entering those toxic clouds.
People smoking often doesn't consider the wind direction, and it even seems they are less in danger than the smoke stream spreading with wind to other people
Problem: in my country (France) ashtrays are systematically in front of doors, and people are smoking directly there, I've contacted the company renting the offices, explaining the advantage of putting ashtrays farther, no replies yet, they surely don't care, without any more incentive or law
Question: What could you suggest?
Below are sources pretty scary concerning Environmental Tobacco Smoke, that caused me this fumiphobia, that should normally make stop any smoker instantly and permanently. I'm really keeping breath, optimizing my way for not taking even 0.1% of ETS (you will think it' excessive, but there is no smoke exposure threshold known at this time, any theshold might cause harm):
-Is PM2.5 From Air Pollution The Same As From Smoking?
-Proposed Identification of
Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a
Toxic Air Contaminant
-Particulate matter from tobacco versus diesel car exhaust
-Chemistry and Toxicology of Cigarette Smoke and Biomarkers of Exposure and Harm
health
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
caub
944
Most countries have smoke-free workplace, this is really really the minimum acceptable in my opinion, but even with that, I find it very hard to enter or leave a building without entering those toxic clouds.
People smoking often doesn't consider the wind direction, and it even seems they are less in danger than the smoke stream spreading with wind to other people
Problem: in my country (France) ashtrays are systematically in front of doors, and people are smoking directly there, I've contacted the company renting the offices, explaining the advantage of putting ashtrays farther, no replies yet, they surely don't care, without any more incentive or law
Question: What could you suggest?
Below are sources pretty scary concerning Environmental Tobacco Smoke, that caused me this fumiphobia, that should normally make stop any smoker instantly and permanently. I'm really keeping breath, optimizing my way for not taking even 0.1% of ETS (you will think it' excessive, but there is no smoke exposure threshold known at this time, any theshold might cause harm):
-Is PM2.5 From Air Pollution The Same As From Smoking?
-Proposed Identification of
Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a
Toxic Air Contaminant
-Particulate matter from tobacco versus diesel car exhaust
-Chemistry and Toxicology of Cigarette Smoke and Biomarkers of Exposure and Harm
health
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
caub
944
edited Mar 28 '14 at 17:03
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
caub
944
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
caub
944
asked Mar 27 '14 at 15:07
caub
944
944
closed as primarily opinion-based by yoozer8 Mar 27 '14 at 15:49
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
closed as primarily opinion-based by yoozer8 Mar 27 '14 at 15:49
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
3
I think you forgot to actually ask a question.
– Philipp
Mar 27 '14 at 15:12
2
Asking broadly for general advice or for people's attitude/opinion is off-topic. Do you have a specific problem you are trying to solve? If so, could you edit your question to describe what your problem is and how you would like to solve it?
– yoozer8
Mar 27 '14 at 15:52
@Jim there, sorry I don't mean to put a polemic question, does it sound as such? There are advanced countries on these topics, there others really far, and I hope to make minds change, this is not a normal situation to breath smoke, I hope people thinking so change their mind
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 19:44
You seem to be asking a much broader question than one specifically about the workplace. It sounds like you want to move ashtrays everywhere (you mentioned supermarkets, for example). I suggest focusing this on the problem you face at your workplace. I also don't think we need to see the anti-smoking argument; this isn't a health site. Your problem is that you are uncomfortable with the smoke clouds (I'm with you there) and you want to be able to get to and from your workplace unmolested by it, right?
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 27 '14 at 23:12
@MonicaCellio thanks yes, it's a stress that I live personally very strongly, unfortunately it's a broader sociological issue so I understand why the topic is almost closed. There is no easy solution apart from moving away, in my country the ground is covered by butts, unlike other countries where people are responsible
– caub
Mar 28 '14 at 0:21
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3
I think you forgot to actually ask a question.
– Philipp
Mar 27 '14 at 15:12
2
Asking broadly for general advice or for people's attitude/opinion is off-topic. Do you have a specific problem you are trying to solve? If so, could you edit your question to describe what your problem is and how you would like to solve it?
– yoozer8
Mar 27 '14 at 15:52
@Jim there, sorry I don't mean to put a polemic question, does it sound as such? There are advanced countries on these topics, there others really far, and I hope to make minds change, this is not a normal situation to breath smoke, I hope people thinking so change their mind
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 19:44
You seem to be asking a much broader question than one specifically about the workplace. It sounds like you want to move ashtrays everywhere (you mentioned supermarkets, for example). I suggest focusing this on the problem you face at your workplace. I also don't think we need to see the anti-smoking argument; this isn't a health site. Your problem is that you are uncomfortable with the smoke clouds (I'm with you there) and you want to be able to get to and from your workplace unmolested by it, right?
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 27 '14 at 23:12
@MonicaCellio thanks yes, it's a stress that I live personally very strongly, unfortunately it's a broader sociological issue so I understand why the topic is almost closed. There is no easy solution apart from moving away, in my country the ground is covered by butts, unlike other countries where people are responsible
– caub
Mar 28 '14 at 0:21
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I think you forgot to actually ask a question.
– Philipp
Mar 27 '14 at 15:12
I think you forgot to actually ask a question.
– Philipp
Mar 27 '14 at 15:12
2
2
Asking broadly for general advice or for people's attitude/opinion is off-topic. Do you have a specific problem you are trying to solve? If so, could you edit your question to describe what your problem is and how you would like to solve it?
– yoozer8
Mar 27 '14 at 15:52
Asking broadly for general advice or for people's attitude/opinion is off-topic. Do you have a specific problem you are trying to solve? If so, could you edit your question to describe what your problem is and how you would like to solve it?
– yoozer8
Mar 27 '14 at 15:52
@Jim there, sorry I don't mean to put a polemic question, does it sound as such? There are advanced countries on these topics, there others really far, and I hope to make minds change, this is not a normal situation to breath smoke, I hope people thinking so change their mind
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 19:44
@Jim there, sorry I don't mean to put a polemic question, does it sound as such? There are advanced countries on these topics, there others really far, and I hope to make minds change, this is not a normal situation to breath smoke, I hope people thinking so change their mind
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 19:44
You seem to be asking a much broader question than one specifically about the workplace. It sounds like you want to move ashtrays everywhere (you mentioned supermarkets, for example). I suggest focusing this on the problem you face at your workplace. I also don't think we need to see the anti-smoking argument; this isn't a health site. Your problem is that you are uncomfortable with the smoke clouds (I'm with you there) and you want to be able to get to and from your workplace unmolested by it, right?
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 27 '14 at 23:12
You seem to be asking a much broader question than one specifically about the workplace. It sounds like you want to move ashtrays everywhere (you mentioned supermarkets, for example). I suggest focusing this on the problem you face at your workplace. I also don't think we need to see the anti-smoking argument; this isn't a health site. Your problem is that you are uncomfortable with the smoke clouds (I'm with you there) and you want to be able to get to and from your workplace unmolested by it, right?
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 27 '14 at 23:12
@MonicaCellio thanks yes, it's a stress that I live personally very strongly, unfortunately it's a broader sociological issue so I understand why the topic is almost closed. There is no easy solution apart from moving away, in my country the ground is covered by butts, unlike other countries where people are responsible
– caub
Mar 28 '14 at 0:21
@MonicaCellio thanks yes, it's a stress that I live personally very strongly, unfortunately it's a broader sociological issue so I understand why the topic is almost closed. There is no easy solution apart from moving away, in my country the ground is covered by butts, unlike other countries where people are responsible
– caub
Mar 28 '14 at 0:21
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At least in America, a "smoke free workplace" actually includes some fixed distance from doorways. If your coworkers are violating that, then talk to your manager or HR. They can then do the "please respect the non-smokers and obey the law" speech.
If the smokers are within their rights, then suck it up and focus on doing your job. Making people not smoke is something you're free to advocate for in your non-working hours.
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
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Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
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At least in America, a "smoke free workplace" actually includes some fixed distance from doorways. If your coworkers are violating that, then talk to your manager or HR. They can then do the "please respect the non-smokers and obey the law" speech.
If the smokers are within their rights, then suck it up and focus on doing your job. Making people not smoke is something you're free to advocate for in your non-working hours.
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
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Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 15:50
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At least in America, a "smoke free workplace" actually includes some fixed distance from doorways. If your coworkers are violating that, then talk to your manager or HR. They can then do the "please respect the non-smokers and obey the law" speech.
If the smokers are within their rights, then suck it up and focus on doing your job. Making people not smoke is something you're free to advocate for in your non-working hours.
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
33.9k977120
Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 15:50
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At least in America, a "smoke free workplace" actually includes some fixed distance from doorways. If your coworkers are violating that, then talk to your manager or HR. They can then do the "please respect the non-smokers and obey the law" speech.
If the smokers are within their rights, then suck it up and focus on doing your job. Making people not smoke is something you're free to advocate for in your non-working hours.
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
33.9k977120
At least in America, a "smoke free workplace" actually includes some fixed distance from doorways. If your coworkers are violating that, then talk to your manager or HR. They can then do the "please respect the non-smokers and obey the law" speech.
If the smokers are within their rights, then suck it up and focus on doing your job. Making people not smoke is something you're free to advocate for in your non-working hours.
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
33.9k977120
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
33.9k977120
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
33.9k977120
answered Mar 27 '14 at 15:29
Telastyn
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33.9k977120
Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 15:50
add a comment |Â
Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 15:50
Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 15:50
Ok, another reason to move to USA or UK (they do it also I think), also smokers feel quickly angry about it whereas they are responsible
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 15:50
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3
I think you forgot to actually ask a question.
– Philipp
Mar 27 '14 at 15:12
2
Asking broadly for general advice or for people's attitude/opinion is off-topic. Do you have a specific problem you are trying to solve? If so, could you edit your question to describe what your problem is and how you would like to solve it?
– yoozer8
Mar 27 '14 at 15:52
@Jim there, sorry I don't mean to put a polemic question, does it sound as such? There are advanced countries on these topics, there others really far, and I hope to make minds change, this is not a normal situation to breath smoke, I hope people thinking so change their mind
– caub
Mar 27 '14 at 19:44
You seem to be asking a much broader question than one specifically about the workplace. It sounds like you want to move ashtrays everywhere (you mentioned supermarkets, for example). I suggest focusing this on the problem you face at your workplace. I also don't think we need to see the anti-smoking argument; this isn't a health site. Your problem is that you are uncomfortable with the smoke clouds (I'm with you there) and you want to be able to get to and from your workplace unmolested by it, right?
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 27 '14 at 23:12
@MonicaCellio thanks yes, it's a stress that I live personally very strongly, unfortunately it's a broader sociological issue so I understand why the topic is almost closed. There is no easy solution apart from moving away, in my country the ground is covered by butts, unlike other countries where people are responsible
– caub
Mar 28 '14 at 0:21