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Is it worth putting a skill that is a prerequisite of a lot of other skills on my resume
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One of the sections of my resume mentions a lot of different JavaScript skills I have.
For example:
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
That section just keeps going on about different skills and technologies I know in JavaScript and it's starting to get big.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that section?
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One of the sections of my resume mentions a lot of different JavaScript skills I have.
For example:
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
That section just keeps going on about different skills and technologies I know in JavaScript and it's starting to get big.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that section?
resume hiring-process work-experience
asked Jul 14 '16 at 18:17
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You have no way of knowing how they process the resume, whether they do or don't pre-screen for keywords, and whether that screening is clever enough to recognize implied skills.
– keshlam
Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
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I would never make the assumption that someone who knows JavaScript knows jQuery.
– Andy Lester
Jul 14 '16 at 22:22
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You should tailor your resume for each different job application. Removing the irrelevant information for that particular job will make it more likely that somebody will get to the relevant information before they stop reading and file it on the "reject" pile. If somebody has the task of filtering 500 applications in half a day, you can work out for yourself how much time they will spend reading each one!
– alephzero
Jul 15 '16 at 0:26
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Have different CV depending of who you are going to send it to. If you are going to send it to a recruiter, stuff it with keywords (5 years exp jQuery, 5 years exp JavaScript, 2 years exp Angular1, 3 months exp Angular2), etc... If you know that your CV is going to a directly CTO, just explain how badass programmer you are.
– Daniel
Jul 15 '16 at 5:59
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Anecdote: A friend got a PhD in computational fluid dynamics, or CFD as EVERYONE calls. He got rejected by HR in several jobs because he had CFD written in his CV, so he didn't have the minimum required skills for the job, as he didn't know computational fluid dynamics. My point: HR has no idea of technicalities , if they have been asked for javascript, and they don't see it, they'll reject your CV.
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One of the sections of my resume mentions a lot of different JavaScript skills I have.
For example:
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
That section just keeps going on about different skills and technologies I know in JavaScript and it's starting to get big.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that section?
resume hiring-process work-experience
asked Jul 14 '16 at 18:17
Benjamin Albert
291310
One of the sections of my resume mentions a lot of different JavaScript skills I have.
For example:
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
That section just keeps going on about different skills and technologies I know in JavaScript and it's starting to get big.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that section?
resume hiring-process work-experience
asked Jul 14 '16 at 18:17
Benjamin Albert
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asked Jul 14 '16 at 18:17
Benjamin Albert
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asked Jul 14 '16 at 18:17
Benjamin Albert
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asked Jul 14 '16 at 18:17
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You have no way of knowing how they process the resume, whether they do or don't pre-screen for keywords, and whether that screening is clever enough to recognize implied skills.
– keshlam
Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
27
I would never make the assumption that someone who knows JavaScript knows jQuery.
– Andy Lester
Jul 14 '16 at 22:22
2
You should tailor your resume for each different job application. Removing the irrelevant information for that particular job will make it more likely that somebody will get to the relevant information before they stop reading and file it on the "reject" pile. If somebody has the task of filtering 500 applications in half a day, you can work out for yourself how much time they will spend reading each one!
– alephzero
Jul 15 '16 at 0:26
2
Have different CV depending of who you are going to send it to. If you are going to send it to a recruiter, stuff it with keywords (5 years exp jQuery, 5 years exp JavaScript, 2 years exp Angular1, 3 months exp Angular2), etc... If you know that your CV is going to a directly CTO, just explain how badass programmer you are.
– Daniel
Jul 15 '16 at 5:59
18
Anecdote: A friend got a PhD in computational fluid dynamics, or CFD as EVERYONE calls. He got rejected by HR in several jobs because he had CFD written in his CV, so he didn't have the minimum required skills for the job, as he didn't know computational fluid dynamics. My point: HR has no idea of technicalities , if they have been asked for javascript, and they don't see it, they'll reject your CV.
– Ander Biguri
Jul 15 '16 at 11:55
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You have no way of knowing how they process the resume, whether they do or don't pre-screen for keywords, and whether that screening is clever enough to recognize implied skills.
– keshlam
Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
27
I would never make the assumption that someone who knows JavaScript knows jQuery.
– Andy Lester
Jul 14 '16 at 22:22
2
You should tailor your resume for each different job application. Removing the irrelevant information for that particular job will make it more likely that somebody will get to the relevant information before they stop reading and file it on the "reject" pile. If somebody has the task of filtering 500 applications in half a day, you can work out for yourself how much time they will spend reading each one!
– alephzero
Jul 15 '16 at 0:26
2
Have different CV depending of who you are going to send it to. If you are going to send it to a recruiter, stuff it with keywords (5 years exp jQuery, 5 years exp JavaScript, 2 years exp Angular1, 3 months exp Angular2), etc... If you know that your CV is going to a directly CTO, just explain how badass programmer you are.
– Daniel
Jul 15 '16 at 5:59
18
Anecdote: A friend got a PhD in computational fluid dynamics, or CFD as EVERYONE calls. He got rejected by HR in several jobs because he had CFD written in his CV, so he didn't have the minimum required skills for the job, as he didn't know computational fluid dynamics. My point: HR has no idea of technicalities , if they have been asked for javascript, and they don't see it, they'll reject your CV.
– Ander Biguri
Jul 15 '16 at 11:55
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You have no way of knowing how they process the resume, whether they do or don't pre-screen for keywords, and whether that screening is clever enough to recognize implied skills.
– keshlam
Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
You have no way of knowing how they process the resume, whether they do or don't pre-screen for keywords, and whether that screening is clever enough to recognize implied skills.
– keshlam
Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
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27
I would never make the assumption that someone who knows JavaScript knows jQuery.
– Andy Lester
Jul 14 '16 at 22:22
I would never make the assumption that someone who knows JavaScript knows jQuery.
– Andy Lester
Jul 14 '16 at 22:22
2
2
You should tailor your resume for each different job application. Removing the irrelevant information for that particular job will make it more likely that somebody will get to the relevant information before they stop reading and file it on the "reject" pile. If somebody has the task of filtering 500 applications in half a day, you can work out for yourself how much time they will spend reading each one!
– alephzero
Jul 15 '16 at 0:26
You should tailor your resume for each different job application. Removing the irrelevant information for that particular job will make it more likely that somebody will get to the relevant information before they stop reading and file it on the "reject" pile. If somebody has the task of filtering 500 applications in half a day, you can work out for yourself how much time they will spend reading each one!
– alephzero
Jul 15 '16 at 0:26
2
2
Have different CV depending of who you are going to send it to. If you are going to send it to a recruiter, stuff it with keywords (5 years exp jQuery, 5 years exp JavaScript, 2 years exp Angular1, 3 months exp Angular2), etc... If you know that your CV is going to a directly CTO, just explain how badass programmer you are.
– Daniel
Jul 15 '16 at 5:59
Have different CV depending of who you are going to send it to. If you are going to send it to a recruiter, stuff it with keywords (5 years exp jQuery, 5 years exp JavaScript, 2 years exp Angular1, 3 months exp Angular2), etc... If you know that your CV is going to a directly CTO, just explain how badass programmer you are.
– Daniel
Jul 15 '16 at 5:59
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18
Anecdote: A friend got a PhD in computational fluid dynamics, or CFD as EVERYONE calls. He got rejected by HR in several jobs because he had CFD written in his CV, so he didn't have the minimum required skills for the job, as he didn't know computational fluid dynamics. My point: HR has no idea of technicalities , if they have been asked for javascript, and they don't see it, they'll reject your CV.
– Ander Biguri
Jul 15 '16 at 11:55
Anecdote: A friend got a PhD in computational fluid dynamics, or CFD as EVERYONE calls. He got rejected by HR in several jobs because he had CFD written in his CV, so he didn't have the minimum required skills for the job, as he didn't know computational fluid dynamics. My point: HR has no idea of technicalities , if they have been asked for javascript, and they don't see it, they'll reject your CV.
– Ander Biguri
Jul 15 '16 at 11:55
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It should not be a problem to keep it unless perhaps you're really running out of space. As many non-technical recruiters may be reviewing your qualifications, it wouldn't hurt to have it on the resume. I think for some, JavaScript may be more recognizable than say, PhantomJS.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
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I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
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I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
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+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
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It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
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Jul 15 '16 at 11:13
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Another factor is automated screening processes. You and any remotely technical recruiter/manager would know that Node.js or React implies JavaScript capabilities but if they never see your resume because the automated system filters out your resume it isn't going to matter.
It is always a good idea to make your that your resume specifically lists any requirements the job posting has and matches the way they list the requirement. Don't abbreviate or use an industry synonym or some skill that is a super-set of the required skills. If they want an expert in Widget 123 then list Widget 123 on your resume not Widgets 100-200.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 19:06
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Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
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Jul 14 '16 at 19:22
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So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that
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No, leave it in.
First, many non-technical recruiters look only for keywords given to them by the hiring manager. If the manager specifies "must know JavaScript" you want JavaScript to be included.
Second, a lot of software used by recruiters and HR is keyword-driven. So you want to match the keyword "JavaScript".
Lastly, leaving it off saves exactly one word. Not worth the risk.
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Not everyone who reads your resume will have the technical expertise of the hiring manager.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
That might be, if everyone that will read your resume is the hiring manager. The hiring manager is probably only one person out of 5-10 that will look at it.
Scenario 1: HR clerk gets assigned the task of going and searching for resumes on the web, or a resume site like Monster. Clerk reads your resume and says "This guy looks good, but he only knows React and jQuery, and we need someone who knows JavaScript." Passed over.
Scenario 2: HR clerk searches Monster for "JavaScript", and your resume never shows up in search results.
Scenario 3: HR clerk is the filter on all inbound resumes. He knows only to forward on the people who know JavaScript. Rejected.
Scenario 4: It's time for a group interview, so the hiring manager hands out your resume to her superiors, or other members of your team who aren't programmers. "This person doesn't even meet the minimum requirements!" says the VP.
This applies to more than your JavaScript examples:
- If you know Rails or Sinatra, then also say you know Ruby.
- If you know Oracle or Postgres, then also say you know SQL.
- If you know Debian or RedHat, then also say you know Linux.
- If you know C++, and you also know C, then list them both.
- etc etc etc
answered Jul 14 '16 at 22:33
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+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
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"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
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@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
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I think that it's best to leave JavaScript in for an additional reason: the answer implies that you are familiar with and can work with plain old "vanilla" JavaScript, which sometimes you do have to do. Sometimes an employer for whatever reason isn't going to let you install an Angular or node.js framework on a site or even jQuery (I've seen it before, usually when the library impacts with something someone wrote for the site years before). Sometimes the job might entail "middle end" work that's neither directly involved with creating controllers and views or working with the back end per se. If you're familiar enough with JS, including its foibles, yes, you should list that.
The other issue here is that a lot of employers - maybe even the majority now - don't actually read your resume at first, they run it through a scanner looking for keywords and only come back to actually flip through it if the keywords are there. It's entirely possible that someone who needs a JS developer didn't bother to put Angular or React in as keywords because, I don't know, they don't actually use Angular or React for instance. If you don't say Javascript too you might miss out precisely because a human isn't interacting with your resume at the first level.
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Note: I consider this to be an excellent example of a more general principle. In general, when communicating, you want to communicate in a way that will be understood. That involves knowing your audience. If you are applying to a local shop, with 6 current staff in total, named JavaScript Improvers, Inc., and you are customizing your resume which will be sent directly to the CTO, then you may be able to leave off certain information. In general, knowing your audience is always helpful. For most larger companies, as stated in other answers, you don't want to assume that your audience understands basic technical terms, pre-requisites, etc. (They may be humans who don't know enough about some pre-requisites, or computer programs that may not have certain pre-requisites identified.) As Joe Strazzere's answer mentions, you don't want to miss out on a common search term.
However, rather than just "leaving it in", and thereby mixing JavaScript with the other technologies, I have another idea: Removing JavaScript from that section might be a good idea. At the same time, rename the section from "skills" to "other skills". Then, separately, create another JavaScript section:
- JavaScript-Related Skills
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
Other Useful Skills
Infinite loops, buffer overflows, Heisenbugs, dividing by zero, off-by-ones, syntax errors, etc.
(The above example is just meant to demonstrate the basic concept. Clearly you'll want to customize what is seen above. Specific details on precisely how to do that can vary depending on other characteristics about your specific resume.)
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Many recruiters would not know. For a sure a word search would not know. Yes list it if you think there is a market.
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It should not be a problem to keep it unless perhaps you're really running out of space. As many non-technical recruiters may be reviewing your qualifications, it wouldn't hurt to have it on the resume. I think for some, JavaScript may be more recognizable than say, PhantomJS.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
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I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
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I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
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+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
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It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
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It should not be a problem to keep it unless perhaps you're really running out of space. As many non-technical recruiters may be reviewing your qualifications, it wouldn't hurt to have it on the resume. I think for some, JavaScript may be more recognizable than say, PhantomJS.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
Bernard Dy
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I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
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I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
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+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
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It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
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It should not be a problem to keep it unless perhaps you're really running out of space. As many non-technical recruiters may be reviewing your qualifications, it wouldn't hurt to have it on the resume. I think for some, JavaScript may be more recognizable than say, PhantomJS.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
Bernard Dy
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It should not be a problem to keep it unless perhaps you're really running out of space. As many non-technical recruiters may be reviewing your qualifications, it wouldn't hurt to have it on the resume. I think for some, JavaScript may be more recognizable than say, PhantomJS.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
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I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
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I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
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+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
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It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
– Adam Fischer
Jul 15 '16 at 11:13
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I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
67
I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
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+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
5
It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
– Adam Fischer
Jul 15 '16 at 11:13
I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
I guess I'll just have to find another less important keyword in that section to remove. Thanks for the answer.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 14 '16 at 18:38
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I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
I'd even categorize all of those as "JavaScript expertise" - make that the heading and then list all the details. It gets the hitword on your resume and collects the information nicely.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 14 '16 at 18:54
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+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
+1 and I agree with using a category of JavaScript as bethlakshmi suggests. I've actually had manager's, after I told them of my experience with Node/jQuery, ask if I have any experience with JavaScript. I've also experienced saying I have experience in JavaScript, and then the manager/interviewer say, "Oh, you've worked with Java?" As a specialist, remember: you are supposed to be the expert, so be friendly to people who don't exactly know what all the terms mean. Their checks cash just as well as anyone else's.
– BrianH
Jul 14 '16 at 22:42
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
@bethlakshmi That would be a great idea if I had extra space on my resume. Unfortunately I'm asking this question because I need extra space and I thought removing JavaScript (and other keywords) would be a good idea because I thought it's obvious I know JavaScript if I have all these other skills.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:40
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It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
– Adam Fischer
Jul 15 '16 at 11:13
It might be worth it to keep JavaScript in as long as you are skilled in native javascript. Many can use jQuery and/or other frameworks, but are unable to build complex apps in pure JavaScript. If this is your case, it might be good idea to mention "native expertise" as well
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Jul 15 '16 at 11:13
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Another factor is automated screening processes. You and any remotely technical recruiter/manager would know that Node.js or React implies JavaScript capabilities but if they never see your resume because the automated system filters out your resume it isn't going to matter.
It is always a good idea to make your that your resume specifically lists any requirements the job posting has and matches the way they list the requirement. Don't abbreviate or use an industry synonym or some skill that is a super-set of the required skills. If they want an expert in Widget 123 then list Widget 123 on your resume not Widgets 100-200.
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Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
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Another factor is automated screening processes. You and any remotely technical recruiter/manager would know that Node.js or React implies JavaScript capabilities but if they never see your resume because the automated system filters out your resume it isn't going to matter.
It is always a good idea to make your that your resume specifically lists any requirements the job posting has and matches the way they list the requirement. Don't abbreviate or use an industry synonym or some skill that is a super-set of the required skills. If they want an expert in Widget 123 then list Widget 123 on your resume not Widgets 100-200.
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Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
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Another factor is automated screening processes. You and any remotely technical recruiter/manager would know that Node.js or React implies JavaScript capabilities but if they never see your resume because the automated system filters out your resume it isn't going to matter.
It is always a good idea to make your that your resume specifically lists any requirements the job posting has and matches the way they list the requirement. Don't abbreviate or use an industry synonym or some skill that is a super-set of the required skills. If they want an expert in Widget 123 then list Widget 123 on your resume not Widgets 100-200.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 19:06
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Another factor is automated screening processes. You and any remotely technical recruiter/manager would know that Node.js or React implies JavaScript capabilities but if they never see your resume because the automated system filters out your resume it isn't going to matter.
It is always a good idea to make your that your resume specifically lists any requirements the job posting has and matches the way they list the requirement. Don't abbreviate or use an industry synonym or some skill that is a super-set of the required skills. If they want an expert in Widget 123 then list Widget 123 on your resume not Widgets 100-200.
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Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
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Jul 14 '16 at 19:22
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Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
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Jul 14 '16 at 19:22
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Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Jul 14 '16 at 19:22
Yes, what I was going to answer. An ATS looks for keywords, it has no intelligence of it's own to link things together. So if the job advert mentions Javascript, you need to have Javascript in your resume, or it's points against you.
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So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that
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No, leave it in.
First, many non-technical recruiters look only for keywords given to them by the hiring manager. If the manager specifies "must know JavaScript" you want JavaScript to be included.
Second, a lot of software used by recruiters and HR is keyword-driven. So you want to match the keyword "JavaScript".
Lastly, leaving it off saves exactly one word. Not worth the risk.
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So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that
section?
No, leave it in.
First, many non-technical recruiters look only for keywords given to them by the hiring manager. If the manager specifies "must know JavaScript" you want JavaScript to be included.
Second, a lot of software used by recruiters and HR is keyword-driven. So you want to match the keyword "JavaScript".
Lastly, leaving it off saves exactly one word. Not worth the risk.
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So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that
section?
No, leave it in.
First, many non-technical recruiters look only for keywords given to them by the hiring manager. If the manager specifies "must know JavaScript" you want JavaScript to be included.
Second, a lot of software used by recruiters and HR is keyword-driven. So you want to match the keyword "JavaScript".
Lastly, leaving it off saves exactly one word. Not worth the risk.
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So I'm asking is it a good idea to just remove JavaScript from that
section?
No, leave it in.
First, many non-technical recruiters look only for keywords given to them by the hiring manager. If the manager specifies "must know JavaScript" you want JavaScript to be included.
Second, a lot of software used by recruiters and HR is keyword-driven. So you want to match the keyword "JavaScript".
Lastly, leaving it off saves exactly one word. Not worth the risk.
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Not everyone who reads your resume will have the technical expertise of the hiring manager.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
That might be, if everyone that will read your resume is the hiring manager. The hiring manager is probably only one person out of 5-10 that will look at it.
Scenario 1: HR clerk gets assigned the task of going and searching for resumes on the web, or a resume site like Monster. Clerk reads your resume and says "This guy looks good, but he only knows React and jQuery, and we need someone who knows JavaScript." Passed over.
Scenario 2: HR clerk searches Monster for "JavaScript", and your resume never shows up in search results.
Scenario 3: HR clerk is the filter on all inbound resumes. He knows only to forward on the people who know JavaScript. Rejected.
Scenario 4: It's time for a group interview, so the hiring manager hands out your resume to her superiors, or other members of your team who aren't programmers. "This person doesn't even meet the minimum requirements!" says the VP.
This applies to more than your JavaScript examples:
- If you know Rails or Sinatra, then also say you know Ruby.
- If you know Oracle or Postgres, then also say you know SQL.
- If you know Debian or RedHat, then also say you know Linux.
- If you know C++, and you also know C, then list them both.
- etc etc etc
answered Jul 14 '16 at 22:33
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two Scenario 3's?
– Aaron Hall
Jul 15 '16 at 3:34
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+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
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"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
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@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
– WoJ
Jul 15 '16 at 17:15
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Not everyone who reads your resume will have the technical expertise of the hiring manager.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
That might be, if everyone that will read your resume is the hiring manager. The hiring manager is probably only one person out of 5-10 that will look at it.
Scenario 1: HR clerk gets assigned the task of going and searching for resumes on the web, or a resume site like Monster. Clerk reads your resume and says "This guy looks good, but he only knows React and jQuery, and we need someone who knows JavaScript." Passed over.
Scenario 2: HR clerk searches Monster for "JavaScript", and your resume never shows up in search results.
Scenario 3: HR clerk is the filter on all inbound resumes. He knows only to forward on the people who know JavaScript. Rejected.
Scenario 4: It's time for a group interview, so the hiring manager hands out your resume to her superiors, or other members of your team who aren't programmers. "This person doesn't even meet the minimum requirements!" says the VP.
This applies to more than your JavaScript examples:
- If you know Rails or Sinatra, then also say you know Ruby.
- If you know Oracle or Postgres, then also say you know SQL.
- If you know Debian or RedHat, then also say you know Linux.
- If you know C++, and you also know C, then list them both.
- etc etc etc
answered Jul 14 '16 at 22:33
Andy Lester
76749
two Scenario 3's?
– Aaron Hall
Jul 15 '16 at 3:34
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+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
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"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
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@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
– WoJ
Jul 15 '16 at 17:15
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up vote
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Not everyone who reads your resume will have the technical expertise of the hiring manager.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
That might be, if everyone that will read your resume is the hiring manager. The hiring manager is probably only one person out of 5-10 that will look at it.
Scenario 1: HR clerk gets assigned the task of going and searching for resumes on the web, or a resume site like Monster. Clerk reads your resume and says "This guy looks good, but he only knows React and jQuery, and we need someone who knows JavaScript." Passed over.
Scenario 2: HR clerk searches Monster for "JavaScript", and your resume never shows up in search results.
Scenario 3: HR clerk is the filter on all inbound resumes. He knows only to forward on the people who know JavaScript. Rejected.
Scenario 4: It's time for a group interview, so the hiring manager hands out your resume to her superiors, or other members of your team who aren't programmers. "This person doesn't even meet the minimum requirements!" says the VP.
This applies to more than your JavaScript examples:
- If you know Rails or Sinatra, then also say you know Ruby.
- If you know Oracle or Postgres, then also say you know SQL.
- If you know Debian or RedHat, then also say you know Linux.
- If you know C++, and you also know C, then list them both.
- etc etc etc
answered Jul 14 '16 at 22:33
Andy Lester
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Not everyone who reads your resume will have the technical expertise of the hiring manager.
I'm starting to think that almost anyone searching for an employee with Node.js or React skills would know that you cannot have those skills without knowing JavaScript.
That might be, if everyone that will read your resume is the hiring manager. The hiring manager is probably only one person out of 5-10 that will look at it.
Scenario 1: HR clerk gets assigned the task of going and searching for resumes on the web, or a resume site like Monster. Clerk reads your resume and says "This guy looks good, but he only knows React and jQuery, and we need someone who knows JavaScript." Passed over.
Scenario 2: HR clerk searches Monster for "JavaScript", and your resume never shows up in search results.
Scenario 3: HR clerk is the filter on all inbound resumes. He knows only to forward on the people who know JavaScript. Rejected.
Scenario 4: It's time for a group interview, so the hiring manager hands out your resume to her superiors, or other members of your team who aren't programmers. "This person doesn't even meet the minimum requirements!" says the VP.
This applies to more than your JavaScript examples:
- If you know Rails or Sinatra, then also say you know Ruby.
- If you know Oracle or Postgres, then also say you know SQL.
- If you know Debian or RedHat, then also say you know Linux.
- If you know C++, and you also know C, then list them both.
- etc etc etc
answered Jul 14 '16 at 22:33
Andy Lester
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 22:33
Andy Lester
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two Scenario 3's?
– Aaron Hall
Jul 15 '16 at 3:34
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+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
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"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
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@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
– WoJ
Jul 15 '16 at 17:15
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two Scenario 3's?
– Aaron Hall
Jul 15 '16 at 3:34
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+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
7
"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
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@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
– WoJ
Jul 15 '16 at 17:15
two Scenario 3's?
– Aaron Hall
Jul 15 '16 at 3:34
two Scenario 3's?
– Aaron Hall
Jul 15 '16 at 3:34
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+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
+1 for "This applies to more than your JavaScript" this is way I asked this question because it applies to more than just JavaScript on my resume.
– Benjamin Albert
Jul 15 '16 at 4:59
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"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
"If you know C++, then also say you know C." Please don't. These are two different languages.
– etarion
Jul 15 '16 at 6:27
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
@etarion: Thanks, I've clarified it.
– Andy Lester
Jul 15 '16 at 14:10
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@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
– WoJ
Jul 15 '16 at 17:15
@etarion: C++ is a close superset of C so the claim is not such a stress. If one was to be that precise, the Debian -> Linux implication is not correct either.
– WoJ
Jul 15 '16 at 17:15
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I think that it's best to leave JavaScript in for an additional reason: the answer implies that you are familiar with and can work with plain old "vanilla" JavaScript, which sometimes you do have to do. Sometimes an employer for whatever reason isn't going to let you install an Angular or node.js framework on a site or even jQuery (I've seen it before, usually when the library impacts with something someone wrote for the site years before). Sometimes the job might entail "middle end" work that's neither directly involved with creating controllers and views or working with the back end per se. If you're familiar enough with JS, including its foibles, yes, you should list that.
The other issue here is that a lot of employers - maybe even the majority now - don't actually read your resume at first, they run it through a scanner looking for keywords and only come back to actually flip through it if the keywords are there. It's entirely possible that someone who needs a JS developer didn't bother to put Angular or React in as keywords because, I don't know, they don't actually use Angular or React for instance. If you don't say Javascript too you might miss out precisely because a human isn't interacting with your resume at the first level.
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I think that it's best to leave JavaScript in for an additional reason: the answer implies that you are familiar with and can work with plain old "vanilla" JavaScript, which sometimes you do have to do. Sometimes an employer for whatever reason isn't going to let you install an Angular or node.js framework on a site or even jQuery (I've seen it before, usually when the library impacts with something someone wrote for the site years before). Sometimes the job might entail "middle end" work that's neither directly involved with creating controllers and views or working with the back end per se. If you're familiar enough with JS, including its foibles, yes, you should list that.
The other issue here is that a lot of employers - maybe even the majority now - don't actually read your resume at first, they run it through a scanner looking for keywords and only come back to actually flip through it if the keywords are there. It's entirely possible that someone who needs a JS developer didn't bother to put Angular or React in as keywords because, I don't know, they don't actually use Angular or React for instance. If you don't say Javascript too you might miss out precisely because a human isn't interacting with your resume at the first level.
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I think that it's best to leave JavaScript in for an additional reason: the answer implies that you are familiar with and can work with plain old "vanilla" JavaScript, which sometimes you do have to do. Sometimes an employer for whatever reason isn't going to let you install an Angular or node.js framework on a site or even jQuery (I've seen it before, usually when the library impacts with something someone wrote for the site years before). Sometimes the job might entail "middle end" work that's neither directly involved with creating controllers and views or working with the back end per se. If you're familiar enough with JS, including its foibles, yes, you should list that.
The other issue here is that a lot of employers - maybe even the majority now - don't actually read your resume at first, they run it through a scanner looking for keywords and only come back to actually flip through it if the keywords are there. It's entirely possible that someone who needs a JS developer didn't bother to put Angular or React in as keywords because, I don't know, they don't actually use Angular or React for instance. If you don't say Javascript too you might miss out precisely because a human isn't interacting with your resume at the first level.
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I think that it's best to leave JavaScript in for an additional reason: the answer implies that you are familiar with and can work with plain old "vanilla" JavaScript, which sometimes you do have to do. Sometimes an employer for whatever reason isn't going to let you install an Angular or node.js framework on a site or even jQuery (I've seen it before, usually when the library impacts with something someone wrote for the site years before). Sometimes the job might entail "middle end" work that's neither directly involved with creating controllers and views or working with the back end per se. If you're familiar enough with JS, including its foibles, yes, you should list that.
The other issue here is that a lot of employers - maybe even the majority now - don't actually read your resume at first, they run it through a scanner looking for keywords and only come back to actually flip through it if the keywords are there. It's entirely possible that someone who needs a JS developer didn't bother to put Angular or React in as keywords because, I don't know, they don't actually use Angular or React for instance. If you don't say Javascript too you might miss out precisely because a human isn't interacting with your resume at the first level.
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Note: I consider this to be an excellent example of a more general principle. In general, when communicating, you want to communicate in a way that will be understood. That involves knowing your audience. If you are applying to a local shop, with 6 current staff in total, named JavaScript Improvers, Inc., and you are customizing your resume which will be sent directly to the CTO, then you may be able to leave off certain information. In general, knowing your audience is always helpful. For most larger companies, as stated in other answers, you don't want to assume that your audience understands basic technical terms, pre-requisites, etc. (They may be humans who don't know enough about some pre-requisites, or computer programs that may not have certain pre-requisites identified.) As Joe Strazzere's answer mentions, you don't want to miss out on a common search term.
However, rather than just "leaving it in", and thereby mixing JavaScript with the other technologies, I have another idea: Removing JavaScript from that section might be a good idea. At the same time, rename the section from "skills" to "other skills". Then, separately, create another JavaScript section:
- JavaScript-Related Skills
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
Other Useful Skills
Infinite loops, buffer overflows, Heisenbugs, dividing by zero, off-by-ones, syntax errors, etc.
(The above example is just meant to demonstrate the basic concept. Clearly you'll want to customize what is seen above. Specific details on precisely how to do that can vary depending on other characteristics about your specific resume.)
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Note: I consider this to be an excellent example of a more general principle. In general, when communicating, you want to communicate in a way that will be understood. That involves knowing your audience. If you are applying to a local shop, with 6 current staff in total, named JavaScript Improvers, Inc., and you are customizing your resume which will be sent directly to the CTO, then you may be able to leave off certain information. In general, knowing your audience is always helpful. For most larger companies, as stated in other answers, you don't want to assume that your audience understands basic technical terms, pre-requisites, etc. (They may be humans who don't know enough about some pre-requisites, or computer programs that may not have certain pre-requisites identified.) As Joe Strazzere's answer mentions, you don't want to miss out on a common search term.
However, rather than just "leaving it in", and thereby mixing JavaScript with the other technologies, I have another idea: Removing JavaScript from that section might be a good idea. At the same time, rename the section from "skills" to "other skills". Then, separately, create another JavaScript section:
- JavaScript-Related Skills
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
Other Useful Skills
Infinite loops, buffer overflows, Heisenbugs, dividing by zero, off-by-ones, syntax errors, etc.
(The above example is just meant to demonstrate the basic concept. Clearly you'll want to customize what is seen above. Specific details on precisely how to do that can vary depending on other characteristics about your specific resume.)
answered Jul 16 '16 at 2:45
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up vote
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Note: I consider this to be an excellent example of a more general principle. In general, when communicating, you want to communicate in a way that will be understood. That involves knowing your audience. If you are applying to a local shop, with 6 current staff in total, named JavaScript Improvers, Inc., and you are customizing your resume which will be sent directly to the CTO, then you may be able to leave off certain information. In general, knowing your audience is always helpful. For most larger companies, as stated in other answers, you don't want to assume that your audience understands basic technical terms, pre-requisites, etc. (They may be humans who don't know enough about some pre-requisites, or computer programs that may not have certain pre-requisites identified.) As Joe Strazzere's answer mentions, you don't want to miss out on a common search term.
However, rather than just "leaving it in", and thereby mixing JavaScript with the other technologies, I have another idea: Removing JavaScript from that section might be a good idea. At the same time, rename the section from "skills" to "other skills". Then, separately, create another JavaScript section:
- JavaScript-Related Skills
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
Other Useful Skills
Infinite loops, buffer overflows, Heisenbugs, dividing by zero, off-by-ones, syntax errors, etc.
(The above example is just meant to demonstrate the basic concept. Clearly you'll want to customize what is seen above. Specific details on precisely how to do that can vary depending on other characteristics about your specific resume.)
answered Jul 16 '16 at 2:45
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Note: I consider this to be an excellent example of a more general principle. In general, when communicating, you want to communicate in a way that will be understood. That involves knowing your audience. If you are applying to a local shop, with 6 current staff in total, named JavaScript Improvers, Inc., and you are customizing your resume which will be sent directly to the CTO, then you may be able to leave off certain information. In general, knowing your audience is always helpful. For most larger companies, as stated in other answers, you don't want to assume that your audience understands basic technical terms, pre-requisites, etc. (They may be humans who don't know enough about some pre-requisites, or computer programs that may not have certain pre-requisites identified.) As Joe Strazzere's answer mentions, you don't want to miss out on a common search term.
However, rather than just "leaving it in", and thereby mixing JavaScript with the other technologies, I have another idea: Removing JavaScript from that section might be a good idea. At the same time, rename the section from "skills" to "other skills". Then, separately, create another JavaScript section:
- JavaScript-Related Skills
AngularJS, React, jQuery, Node.js, Express, PhantomJS, Tape etc...
Other Useful Skills
Infinite loops, buffer overflows, Heisenbugs, dividing by zero, off-by-ones, syntax errors, etc.
(The above example is just meant to demonstrate the basic concept. Clearly you'll want to customize what is seen above. Specific details on precisely how to do that can vary depending on other characteristics about your specific resume.)
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Many recruiters would not know. For a sure a word search would not know. Yes list it if you think there is a market.
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You have no way of knowing how they process the resume, whether they do or don't pre-screen for keywords, and whether that screening is clever enough to recognize implied skills.
– keshlam
Jul 14 '16 at 18:22
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I would never make the assumption that someone who knows JavaScript knows jQuery.
– Andy Lester
Jul 14 '16 at 22:22
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You should tailor your resume for each different job application. Removing the irrelevant information for that particular job will make it more likely that somebody will get to the relevant information before they stop reading and file it on the "reject" pile. If somebody has the task of filtering 500 applications in half a day, you can work out for yourself how much time they will spend reading each one!
– alephzero
Jul 15 '16 at 0:26
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Have different CV depending of who you are going to send it to. If you are going to send it to a recruiter, stuff it with keywords (5 years exp jQuery, 5 years exp JavaScript, 2 years exp Angular1, 3 months exp Angular2), etc... If you know that your CV is going to a directly CTO, just explain how badass programmer you are.
– Daniel
Jul 15 '16 at 5:59
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Anecdote: A friend got a PhD in computational fluid dynamics, or CFD as EVERYONE calls. He got rejected by HR in several jobs because he had CFD written in his CV, so he didn't have the minimum required skills for the job, as he didn't know computational fluid dynamics. My point: HR has no idea of technicalities , if they have been asked for javascript, and they don't see it, they'll reject your CV.
– Ander Biguri
Jul 15 '16 at 11:55