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I'm an exempt employee who works on average 60-70hours/week and my boss is having kittens over whether I'm spot on time. Now, I ask you, with all the OT I've worked, coupled with the fact that I'm Exempt - does he have a right?
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asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
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I'm an exempt employee who works on average 60-70hours/week and my boss is having kittens over whether I'm spot on time. Now, I ask you, with all the OT I've worked, coupled with the fact that I'm Exempt - does he have a right?
human-resources
asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
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closed as off-topic by Kent A., keshlam, The Wandering Dev Manager, Dawny33, Magisch Jun 13 '16 at 7:30
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Kent A., keshlam, Dawny33, Magisch
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Under the circumstances, you should be looking for other employment, NOW, not because of the "on-time arrival" chicken excrement but because of the ongoing excessive overtime. The fundamental unwritten contract of employment in the US for full-time exempt employees is for 40 hours per week. he 40-hour-workweek became standard in the US because the Early Adopters saw their scrap, rework, and accident rates go through the floor, which sent their profit margins through the ceiling.
– John R. Strohm
Jun 13 '16 at 4:08
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If you are asking about legal rights, you'd have to tell us where you are. If you are asking about moral rights, we can't answer that for you. If you are asking whether he has the practical ability to demand this, see legal, but In the US your only alternatives are to cooperate, to buy (preferably after getting another Jun lined up) out to be fired -- unless can convince the boss that it is in his interest and the that of the company to relax this true.
– keshlam
Jun 13 '16 at 4:10
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Exempt from what?
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 8:31
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@colmde: In the USA, people are either paid by the hour, including overtime, or they are "exempt" which means they are not being paid for overtime. The poster says "60 to 70 hours work a week". I had jobs where overtime was paid plus 50 percent, so 60 to 70 hours work would be 70 to 85 hours paid. The poster being exempt means she is getting paid for 40 hours.
– gnasher729
Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
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Does the boss actually know you're working 60-70 hours a week? If s/he is so pernickety about sticking to the exact working hours, that means you should be going home on time as well as arriving on time. If these extra hours were more than a week or two, it's clear the boss needs to hire an additional employee. In answer to your question, he has the right to get you to come in on time, but not to make you work those extra hours.
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Jun 13 '16 at 11:01
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I'm an exempt employee who works on average 60-70hours/week and my boss is having kittens over whether I'm spot on time. Now, I ask you, with all the OT I've worked, coupled with the fact that I'm Exempt - does he have a right?
human-resources
asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
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I'm an exempt employee who works on average 60-70hours/week and my boss is having kittens over whether I'm spot on time. Now, I ask you, with all the OT I've worked, coupled with the fact that I'm Exempt - does he have a right?
human-resources
asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
6
asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
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asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
6
asked Jun 13 '16 at 3:02
Martha Lane-Matheson
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closed as off-topic by Kent A., keshlam, The Wandering Dev Manager, Dawny33, Magisch Jun 13 '16 at 7:30
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Kent A., keshlam, Dawny33, Magisch
closed as off-topic by Kent A., keshlam, The Wandering Dev Manager, Dawny33, Magisch Jun 13 '16 at 7:30
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Kent A., keshlam, Dawny33, Magisch
6
Under the circumstances, you should be looking for other employment, NOW, not because of the "on-time arrival" chicken excrement but because of the ongoing excessive overtime. The fundamental unwritten contract of employment in the US for full-time exempt employees is for 40 hours per week. he 40-hour-workweek became standard in the US because the Early Adopters saw their scrap, rework, and accident rates go through the floor, which sent their profit margins through the ceiling.
– John R. Strohm
Jun 13 '16 at 4:08
1
If you are asking about legal rights, you'd have to tell us where you are. If you are asking about moral rights, we can't answer that for you. If you are asking whether he has the practical ability to demand this, see legal, but In the US your only alternatives are to cooperate, to buy (preferably after getting another Jun lined up) out to be fired -- unless can convince the boss that it is in his interest and the that of the company to relax this true.
– keshlam
Jun 13 '16 at 4:10
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Exempt from what?
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 8:31
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@colmde: In the USA, people are either paid by the hour, including overtime, or they are "exempt" which means they are not being paid for overtime. The poster says "60 to 70 hours work a week". I had jobs where overtime was paid plus 50 percent, so 60 to 70 hours work would be 70 to 85 hours paid. The poster being exempt means she is getting paid for 40 hours.
– gnasher729
Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
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Does the boss actually know you're working 60-70 hours a week? If s/he is so pernickety about sticking to the exact working hours, that means you should be going home on time as well as arriving on time. If these extra hours were more than a week or two, it's clear the boss needs to hire an additional employee. In answer to your question, he has the right to get you to come in on time, but not to make you work those extra hours.
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 11:01
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Under the circumstances, you should be looking for other employment, NOW, not because of the "on-time arrival" chicken excrement but because of the ongoing excessive overtime. The fundamental unwritten contract of employment in the US for full-time exempt employees is for 40 hours per week. he 40-hour-workweek became standard in the US because the Early Adopters saw their scrap, rework, and accident rates go through the floor, which sent their profit margins through the ceiling.
– John R. Strohm
Jun 13 '16 at 4:08
1
If you are asking about legal rights, you'd have to tell us where you are. If you are asking about moral rights, we can't answer that for you. If you are asking whether he has the practical ability to demand this, see legal, but In the US your only alternatives are to cooperate, to buy (preferably after getting another Jun lined up) out to be fired -- unless can convince the boss that it is in his interest and the that of the company to relax this true.
– keshlam
Jun 13 '16 at 4:10
1
Exempt from what?
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 8:31
3
@colmde: In the USA, people are either paid by the hour, including overtime, or they are "exempt" which means they are not being paid for overtime. The poster says "60 to 70 hours work a week". I had jobs where overtime was paid plus 50 percent, so 60 to 70 hours work would be 70 to 85 hours paid. The poster being exempt means she is getting paid for 40 hours.
– gnasher729
Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
2
Does the boss actually know you're working 60-70 hours a week? If s/he is so pernickety about sticking to the exact working hours, that means you should be going home on time as well as arriving on time. If these extra hours were more than a week or two, it's clear the boss needs to hire an additional employee. In answer to your question, he has the right to get you to come in on time, but not to make you work those extra hours.
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 11:01
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6
Under the circumstances, you should be looking for other employment, NOW, not because of the "on-time arrival" chicken excrement but because of the ongoing excessive overtime. The fundamental unwritten contract of employment in the US for full-time exempt employees is for 40 hours per week. he 40-hour-workweek became standard in the US because the Early Adopters saw their scrap, rework, and accident rates go through the floor, which sent their profit margins through the ceiling.
– John R. Strohm
Jun 13 '16 at 4:08
Under the circumstances, you should be looking for other employment, NOW, not because of the "on-time arrival" chicken excrement but because of the ongoing excessive overtime. The fundamental unwritten contract of employment in the US for full-time exempt employees is for 40 hours per week. he 40-hour-workweek became standard in the US because the Early Adopters saw their scrap, rework, and accident rates go through the floor, which sent their profit margins through the ceiling.
– John R. Strohm
Jun 13 '16 at 4:08
1
1
If you are asking about legal rights, you'd have to tell us where you are. If you are asking about moral rights, we can't answer that for you. If you are asking whether he has the practical ability to demand this, see legal, but In the US your only alternatives are to cooperate, to buy (preferably after getting another Jun lined up) out to be fired -- unless can convince the boss that it is in his interest and the that of the company to relax this true.
– keshlam
Jun 13 '16 at 4:10
If you are asking about legal rights, you'd have to tell us where you are. If you are asking about moral rights, we can't answer that for you. If you are asking whether he has the practical ability to demand this, see legal, but In the US your only alternatives are to cooperate, to buy (preferably after getting another Jun lined up) out to be fired -- unless can convince the boss that it is in his interest and the that of the company to relax this true.
– keshlam
Jun 13 '16 at 4:10
1
1
Exempt from what?
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 8:31
Exempt from what?
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 8:31
3
3
@colmde: In the USA, people are either paid by the hour, including overtime, or they are "exempt" which means they are not being paid for overtime. The poster says "60 to 70 hours work a week". I had jobs where overtime was paid plus 50 percent, so 60 to 70 hours work would be 70 to 85 hours paid. The poster being exempt means she is getting paid for 40 hours.
– gnasher729
Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
@colmde: In the USA, people are either paid by the hour, including overtime, or they are "exempt" which means they are not being paid for overtime. The poster says "60 to 70 hours work a week". I had jobs where overtime was paid plus 50 percent, so 60 to 70 hours work would be 70 to 85 hours paid. The poster being exempt means she is getting paid for 40 hours.
– gnasher729
Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
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2
Does the boss actually know you're working 60-70 hours a week? If s/he is so pernickety about sticking to the exact working hours, that means you should be going home on time as well as arriving on time. If these extra hours were more than a week or two, it's clear the boss needs to hire an additional employee. In answer to your question, he has the right to get you to come in on time, but not to make you work those extra hours.
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 11:01
Does the boss actually know you're working 60-70 hours a week? If s/he is so pernickety about sticking to the exact working hours, that means you should be going home on time as well as arriving on time. If these extra hours were more than a week or two, it's clear the boss needs to hire an additional employee. In answer to your question, he has the right to get you to come in on time, but not to make you work those extra hours.
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 11:01
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If your boss is so worried that you arrive at work in time, there's a simple way to achieve that: Tell you to go home after eight hours work.
60 to 70 hours a week will destroy your health. You need to do something about it. Being exempt doesn't mean you are the bosses slave. If it takes 60 to 70 hours to do the job, then he needs to hire someone else.
I'd recommend searching for a new job, while reducing your working hours. You reduce your working hours by leaving after eight hours, or by being sick after a long day. Can your boss afford to live without your work? If the answer is no, you are safe. If the answer is yes, why are you working 60 to 70 hours?
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If your boss is so worried that you arrive at work in time, there's a simple way to achieve that: Tell you to go home after eight hours work.
60 to 70 hours a week will destroy your health. You need to do something about it. Being exempt doesn't mean you are the bosses slave. If it takes 60 to 70 hours to do the job, then he needs to hire someone else.
I'd recommend searching for a new job, while reducing your working hours. You reduce your working hours by leaving after eight hours, or by being sick after a long day. Can your boss afford to live without your work? If the answer is no, you are safe. If the answer is yes, why are you working 60 to 70 hours?
answered Jun 13 '16 at 6:34
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If your boss is so worried that you arrive at work in time, there's a simple way to achieve that: Tell you to go home after eight hours work.
60 to 70 hours a week will destroy your health. You need to do something about it. Being exempt doesn't mean you are the bosses slave. If it takes 60 to 70 hours to do the job, then he needs to hire someone else.
I'd recommend searching for a new job, while reducing your working hours. You reduce your working hours by leaving after eight hours, or by being sick after a long day. Can your boss afford to live without your work? If the answer is no, you are safe. If the answer is yes, why are you working 60 to 70 hours?
answered Jun 13 '16 at 6:34
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If your boss is so worried that you arrive at work in time, there's a simple way to achieve that: Tell you to go home after eight hours work.
60 to 70 hours a week will destroy your health. You need to do something about it. Being exempt doesn't mean you are the bosses slave. If it takes 60 to 70 hours to do the job, then he needs to hire someone else.
I'd recommend searching for a new job, while reducing your working hours. You reduce your working hours by leaving after eight hours, or by being sick after a long day. Can your boss afford to live without your work? If the answer is no, you are safe. If the answer is yes, why are you working 60 to 70 hours?
answered Jun 13 '16 at 6:34
gnasher729
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If your boss is so worried that you arrive at work in time, there's a simple way to achieve that: Tell you to go home after eight hours work.
60 to 70 hours a week will destroy your health. You need to do something about it. Being exempt doesn't mean you are the bosses slave. If it takes 60 to 70 hours to do the job, then he needs to hire someone else.
I'd recommend searching for a new job, while reducing your working hours. You reduce your working hours by leaving after eight hours, or by being sick after a long day. Can your boss afford to live without your work? If the answer is no, you are safe. If the answer is yes, why are you working 60 to 70 hours?
answered Jun 13 '16 at 6:34
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answered Jun 13 '16 at 6:34
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Under the circumstances, you should be looking for other employment, NOW, not because of the "on-time arrival" chicken excrement but because of the ongoing excessive overtime. The fundamental unwritten contract of employment in the US for full-time exempt employees is for 40 hours per week. he 40-hour-workweek became standard in the US because the Early Adopters saw their scrap, rework, and accident rates go through the floor, which sent their profit margins through the ceiling.
– John R. Strohm
Jun 13 '16 at 4:08
1
If you are asking about legal rights, you'd have to tell us where you are. If you are asking about moral rights, we can't answer that for you. If you are asking whether he has the practical ability to demand this, see legal, but In the US your only alternatives are to cooperate, to buy (preferably after getting another Jun lined up) out to be fired -- unless can convince the boss that it is in his interest and the that of the company to relax this true.
– keshlam
Jun 13 '16 at 4:10
1
Exempt from what?
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 8:31
3
@colmde: In the USA, people are either paid by the hour, including overtime, or they are "exempt" which means they are not being paid for overtime. The poster says "60 to 70 hours work a week". I had jobs where overtime was paid plus 50 percent, so 60 to 70 hours work would be 70 to 85 hours paid. The poster being exempt means she is getting paid for 40 hours.
– gnasher729
Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
2
Does the boss actually know you're working 60-70 hours a week? If s/he is so pernickety about sticking to the exact working hours, that means you should be going home on time as well as arriving on time. If these extra hours were more than a week or two, it's clear the boss needs to hire an additional employee. In answer to your question, he has the right to get you to come in on time, but not to make you work those extra hours.
– colmde
Jun 13 '16 at 11:01