Why would a seal be flinging an octopus around above the water and then slapping a kayaker?

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There is a video of a seal sucker punching a kayaker with an octopus,





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I suppose the seal wasn't exactly trying to hit the kayaker, but why would it be flinging the octopus around above the surface of the water?










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  • Possibly to stun it or to finish killing it - or to rip some of it off to eat. It was a New Zealand Fur seal.
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There is a video of a seal sucker punching a kayaker with an octopus,





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I suppose the seal wasn't exactly trying to hit the kayaker, but why would it be flinging the octopus around above the surface of the water?










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  • Possibly to stun it or to finish killing it - or to rip some of it off to eat. It was a New Zealand Fur seal.
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There is a video of a seal sucker punching a kayaker with an octopus,





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I suppose the seal wasn't exactly trying to hit the kayaker, but why would it be flinging the octopus around above the surface of the water?










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There is a video of a seal sucker punching a kayaker with an octopus,





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I suppose the seal wasn't exactly trying to hit the kayaker, but why would it be flinging the octopus around above the surface of the water?







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  • Possibly to stun it or to finish killing it - or to rip some of it off to eat. It was a New Zealand Fur seal.
    – Aravona
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  • Possibly to stun it or to finish killing it - or to rip some of it off to eat. It was a New Zealand Fur seal.
    – Aravona
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Possibly to stun it or to finish killing it - or to rip some of it off to eat. It was a New Zealand Fur seal.
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Possibly to stun it or to finish killing it - or to rip some of it off to eat. It was a New Zealand Fur seal.
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Sea Lions and Fur Seals are known to eat octopus, but they're a bit difficult for them to eat as is. They're one of many creatures that fling food out of the ocean to tenderise, stun, kill, or rip food off of their prey.



According to: https://theconversation.com/tackling-the-kraken-unique-dolphin-strategy-delivers-dangerous-octopus-for-dinner-75222




During these events, dolphins were observed shaking and tossing octopus around at the water’s surface. In some instances, the prey was gripped in the teeth before being slapped down onto the water.



This likely helped both to kill the octopus and to tear it into smaller, more digestible pieces. In other instances, the octopus was tossed across the surface of the water before being recaptured and tossed again.




Also for light reading: https://www.livescience.com/63693-seal-smacks-kayaker-with-octopus.html - which states similar:




According to the study authors, octopus suckers can still grasp and stick even after the octopus is dead, making swallowing a whole octopus a dangerous endeavor. However, tossing and shaking the octopus can damage the tissue and make the suckers less dangerous.







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  • And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
    – Jan Doggen
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    I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
    – Aravona
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  • It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
    – Jon Custer
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  • This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
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Sea Lions and Fur Seals are known to eat octopus, but they're a bit difficult for them to eat as is. They're one of many creatures that fling food out of the ocean to tenderise, stun, kill, or rip food off of their prey.



According to: https://theconversation.com/tackling-the-kraken-unique-dolphin-strategy-delivers-dangerous-octopus-for-dinner-75222




During these events, dolphins were observed shaking and tossing octopus around at the water’s surface. In some instances, the prey was gripped in the teeth before being slapped down onto the water.



This likely helped both to kill the octopus and to tear it into smaller, more digestible pieces. In other instances, the octopus was tossed across the surface of the water before being recaptured and tossed again.




Also for light reading: https://www.livescience.com/63693-seal-smacks-kayaker-with-octopus.html - which states similar:




According to the study authors, octopus suckers can still grasp and stick even after the octopus is dead, making swallowing a whole octopus a dangerous endeavor. However, tossing and shaking the octopus can damage the tissue and make the suckers less dangerous.







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  • And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
    – Jan Doggen
    4 hours ago






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    I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
    – Aravona
    4 hours ago










  • It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago










  • This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
    – talrnu
    1 hour ago














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Sea Lions and Fur Seals are known to eat octopus, but they're a bit difficult for them to eat as is. They're one of many creatures that fling food out of the ocean to tenderise, stun, kill, or rip food off of their prey.



According to: https://theconversation.com/tackling-the-kraken-unique-dolphin-strategy-delivers-dangerous-octopus-for-dinner-75222




During these events, dolphins were observed shaking and tossing octopus around at the water’s surface. In some instances, the prey was gripped in the teeth before being slapped down onto the water.



This likely helped both to kill the octopus and to tear it into smaller, more digestible pieces. In other instances, the octopus was tossed across the surface of the water before being recaptured and tossed again.




Also for light reading: https://www.livescience.com/63693-seal-smacks-kayaker-with-octopus.html - which states similar:




According to the study authors, octopus suckers can still grasp and stick even after the octopus is dead, making swallowing a whole octopus a dangerous endeavor. However, tossing and shaking the octopus can damage the tissue and make the suckers less dangerous.







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  • And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
    – Jan Doggen
    4 hours ago






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    I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
    – Aravona
    4 hours ago










  • It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago










  • This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
    – talrnu
    1 hour ago












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up vote
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Sea Lions and Fur Seals are known to eat octopus, but they're a bit difficult for them to eat as is. They're one of many creatures that fling food out of the ocean to tenderise, stun, kill, or rip food off of their prey.



According to: https://theconversation.com/tackling-the-kraken-unique-dolphin-strategy-delivers-dangerous-octopus-for-dinner-75222




During these events, dolphins were observed shaking and tossing octopus around at the water’s surface. In some instances, the prey was gripped in the teeth before being slapped down onto the water.



This likely helped both to kill the octopus and to tear it into smaller, more digestible pieces. In other instances, the octopus was tossed across the surface of the water before being recaptured and tossed again.




Also for light reading: https://www.livescience.com/63693-seal-smacks-kayaker-with-octopus.html - which states similar:




According to the study authors, octopus suckers can still grasp and stick even after the octopus is dead, making swallowing a whole octopus a dangerous endeavor. However, tossing and shaking the octopus can damage the tissue and make the suckers less dangerous.







share|improve this answer












Sea Lions and Fur Seals are known to eat octopus, but they're a bit difficult for them to eat as is. They're one of many creatures that fling food out of the ocean to tenderise, stun, kill, or rip food off of their prey.



According to: https://theconversation.com/tackling-the-kraken-unique-dolphin-strategy-delivers-dangerous-octopus-for-dinner-75222




During these events, dolphins were observed shaking and tossing octopus around at the water’s surface. In some instances, the prey was gripped in the teeth before being slapped down onto the water.



This likely helped both to kill the octopus and to tear it into smaller, more digestible pieces. In other instances, the octopus was tossed across the surface of the water before being recaptured and tossed again.




Also for light reading: https://www.livescience.com/63693-seal-smacks-kayaker-with-octopus.html - which states similar:




According to the study authors, octopus suckers can still grasp and stick even after the octopus is dead, making swallowing a whole octopus a dangerous endeavor. However, tossing and shaking the octopus can damage the tissue and make the suckers less dangerous.








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  • And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
    – Jan Doggen
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
    – Aravona
    4 hours ago










  • It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago










  • This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
    – talrnu
    1 hour ago
















  • And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
    – Jan Doggen
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
    – Aravona
    4 hours ago










  • It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago










  • This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
    – talrnu
    1 hour ago















And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
– Jan Doggen
4 hours ago




And flinging it on a hard object (boat; stone) is more effective than on the water surface. Not sure if they have learned that, though.
– Jan Doggen
4 hours ago




1




1




I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
– Aravona
4 hours ago




I think in this case it would be safe to say it was accidental, but certainly sea lions will beat things to death on rocks, so it would not be an out of place suggestion
– Aravona
4 hours ago












It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
– Jon Custer
2 hours ago




It would not surprise me if seals 'played' with food, tossing it around between them. Perhaps it just wanted to share...
– Jon Custer
2 hours ago












This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
– talrnu
1 hour ago




This is very likely correct, as the clip of the kayakker getting slapped was apparently only part of a longer fight between the seal and octopus. To quote the original article: "Although the octopus put up a good fight, Mr Mulinder said the seal came out on top."
– talrnu
1 hour ago

















 

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