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What is it about Albania that makes it such a popular hiding place (Voldemort, Helena Ravenclaw) and holiday destination (Quirrell, Bertha Jorkins) for British wizards? It would not be so strange in any separate case, but Albania just pops up too often in the series.
Here is a theory I really like from SuperCarlinBrothers, but it looks like it's not supported by canon.
I know there is a similar question: Why flee to Albania? - but I feel like it does not cover the subject.
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What is it about Albania that makes it such a popular hiding place (Voldemort, Helena Ravenclaw) and holiday destination (Quirrell, Bertha Jorkins) for British wizards? It would not be so strange in any separate case, but Albania just pops up too often in the series.
Here is a theory I really like from SuperCarlinBrothers, but it looks like it's not supported by canon.
I know there is a similar question: Why flee to Albania? - but I feel like it does not cover the subject.
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The statement that Albania is a popular travel destination contradicts the idea in the linked question that it is a secluded area with few local population, both magical and miggle.
– TimSparrow
3 hours ago
I think it may be useful for you to list a number of instances in which Albania is mentioned. It would allow the reader to try to figure out an answer without first having to confirm that what you said is accurate, and that there aren't specific answers for each separate instance.
– Misha R
3 hours ago
Voldemort came to Albania because of Helena, so I think those two really count as one instance. Similarly, perhaps Quirrel was chasing down Dark Arts rumours and so followed them to Albania?
– DavidS
3 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the theory from the video so that other people don't have to watch it? Anyhow, please consider that the books were written long before political correctness was a thing. My personal explanation was always that Albania is not really associated with nice things in Rowling's mind. Kind of like the Black Forest is often referenced in the cannon because of stereotype and what it used to be 100 years ago and not the heavily industrialized region of today. Also bare in mind that the new movie displays the US as a haven for religious extremists. I think it's all consistent
– Raditz_35
3 hours ago
@Raditz_35 - " Long before political correctness was a thing." The term was developed in the 80s and was being criticized by conservative pundits widely in the early 90s. And of course the idea itself is older.
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2 hours ago
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What is it about Albania that makes it such a popular hiding place (Voldemort, Helena Ravenclaw) and holiday destination (Quirrell, Bertha Jorkins) for British wizards? It would not be so strange in any separate case, but Albania just pops up too often in the series.
Here is a theory I really like from SuperCarlinBrothers, but it looks like it's not supported by canon.
I know there is a similar question: Why flee to Albania? - but I feel like it does not cover the subject.
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What is it about Albania that makes it such a popular hiding place (Voldemort, Helena Ravenclaw) and holiday destination (Quirrell, Bertha Jorkins) for British wizards? It would not be so strange in any separate case, but Albania just pops up too often in the series.
Here is a theory I really like from SuperCarlinBrothers, but it looks like it's not supported by canon.
I know there is a similar question: Why flee to Albania? - but I feel like it does not cover the subject.
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The statement that Albania is a popular travel destination contradicts the idea in the linked question that it is a secluded area with few local population, both magical and miggle.
– TimSparrow
3 hours ago
I think it may be useful for you to list a number of instances in which Albania is mentioned. It would allow the reader to try to figure out an answer without first having to confirm that what you said is accurate, and that there aren't specific answers for each separate instance.
– Misha R
3 hours ago
Voldemort came to Albania because of Helena, so I think those two really count as one instance. Similarly, perhaps Quirrel was chasing down Dark Arts rumours and so followed them to Albania?
– DavidS
3 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the theory from the video so that other people don't have to watch it? Anyhow, please consider that the books were written long before political correctness was a thing. My personal explanation was always that Albania is not really associated with nice things in Rowling's mind. Kind of like the Black Forest is often referenced in the cannon because of stereotype and what it used to be 100 years ago and not the heavily industrialized region of today. Also bare in mind that the new movie displays the US as a haven for religious extremists. I think it's all consistent
– Raditz_35
3 hours ago
@Raditz_35 - " Long before political correctness was a thing." The term was developed in the 80s and was being criticized by conservative pundits widely in the early 90s. And of course the idea itself is older.
– Adamant
2 hours ago
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The statement that Albania is a popular travel destination contradicts the idea in the linked question that it is a secluded area with few local population, both magical and miggle.
– TimSparrow
3 hours ago
I think it may be useful for you to list a number of instances in which Albania is mentioned. It would allow the reader to try to figure out an answer without first having to confirm that what you said is accurate, and that there aren't specific answers for each separate instance.
– Misha R
3 hours ago
Voldemort came to Albania because of Helena, so I think those two really count as one instance. Similarly, perhaps Quirrel was chasing down Dark Arts rumours and so followed them to Albania?
– DavidS
3 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the theory from the video so that other people don't have to watch it? Anyhow, please consider that the books were written long before political correctness was a thing. My personal explanation was always that Albania is not really associated with nice things in Rowling's mind. Kind of like the Black Forest is often referenced in the cannon because of stereotype and what it used to be 100 years ago and not the heavily industrialized region of today. Also bare in mind that the new movie displays the US as a haven for religious extremists. I think it's all consistent
– Raditz_35
3 hours ago
@Raditz_35 - " Long before political correctness was a thing." The term was developed in the 80s and was being criticized by conservative pundits widely in the early 90s. And of course the idea itself is older.
– Adamant
2 hours ago
The statement that Albania is a popular travel destination contradicts the idea in the linked question that it is a secluded area with few local population, both magical and miggle.
– TimSparrow
3 hours ago
The statement that Albania is a popular travel destination contradicts the idea in the linked question that it is a secluded area with few local population, both magical and miggle.
– TimSparrow
3 hours ago
I think it may be useful for you to list a number of instances in which Albania is mentioned. It would allow the reader to try to figure out an answer without first having to confirm that what you said is accurate, and that there aren't specific answers for each separate instance.
– Misha R
3 hours ago
I think it may be useful for you to list a number of instances in which Albania is mentioned. It would allow the reader to try to figure out an answer without first having to confirm that what you said is accurate, and that there aren't specific answers for each separate instance.
– Misha R
3 hours ago
Voldemort came to Albania because of Helena, so I think those two really count as one instance. Similarly, perhaps Quirrel was chasing down Dark Arts rumours and so followed them to Albania?
– DavidS
3 hours ago
Voldemort came to Albania because of Helena, so I think those two really count as one instance. Similarly, perhaps Quirrel was chasing down Dark Arts rumours and so followed them to Albania?
– DavidS
3 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the theory from the video so that other people don't have to watch it? Anyhow, please consider that the books were written long before political correctness was a thing. My personal explanation was always that Albania is not really associated with nice things in Rowling's mind. Kind of like the Black Forest is often referenced in the cannon because of stereotype and what it used to be 100 years ago and not the heavily industrialized region of today. Also bare in mind that the new movie displays the US as a haven for religious extremists. I think it's all consistent
– Raditz_35
3 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the theory from the video so that other people don't have to watch it? Anyhow, please consider that the books were written long before political correctness was a thing. My personal explanation was always that Albania is not really associated with nice things in Rowling's mind. Kind of like the Black Forest is often referenced in the cannon because of stereotype and what it used to be 100 years ago and not the heavily industrialized region of today. Also bare in mind that the new movie displays the US as a haven for religious extremists. I think it's all consistent
– Raditz_35
3 hours ago
@Raditz_35 - " Long before political correctness was a thing." The term was developed in the 80s and was being criticized by conservative pundits widely in the early 90s. And of course the idea itself is older.
– Adamant
2 hours ago
@Raditz_35 - " Long before political correctness was a thing." The term was developed in the 80s and was being criticized by conservative pundits widely in the early 90s. And of course the idea itself is older.
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2 hours ago
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Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell had connected reasons.
Though it’s true that four people choose to go to Albania, it’s not a coincidence for three of them. Helena Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell all have connected reasons for going to Albania. Before she’d died and become the Grey Lady, Helena Ravenclaw chose to hide the diadem in Albania, which directly caused the Dark Lord to go there when she told him where to find it, and the Dark Lord hiding there then directly caused Quirrell to go. The only one who seems truly to have coincidentally visited Albania was Bertha Jorkins, who went there on vacation.
The Dark Lord only used Albania because he’d found the diadem there.
The Dark Lord first went to Albania because the Grey Lady told him that’s where the diadem was.
“So Voldemort had managed to wheedle the location of the lost diadem out of the Grey Lady. He had travelled to that far-flung forest and retrieved the diadem from its hiding place, perhaps as soon as he left Hogwarts, before he even started work at Borgin and Burkes.â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
Then, when the Dark Lord needed a place to hide years later, he returned to those same woods.
“And wouldn’t those secluded Albanian woods have seemed an excellent refuge when, so much later, Voldemort had needed a place to lie low, undisturbed, for ten long years?â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
The Dark Lord’s reason for choosing Albania was directly because Helena Ravenclaw had first.
Quirrell went to Albania since he deliberately sought out the Dark Lord.
In the JKR Pottermore writing on Professor Quirrell, she stated he purposely sought the Dark Lord.
Quirrell set out deliberately to find whatever remained of the Dark wizard, partly out of curiosity, partly out of that unacknowledged desire for importance. At the very least, Quirrell fantasised that he could be the man who tracked Voldemort down, but at best, might learn skills from Voldemort that would ensure he was never laughed at again.
- Professor Quirrell (Pottermore)
Therefore, it wasn’t a coincidence that he went to Albania, where the Dark Lord was rumored to be.
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Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
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Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell had connected reasons.
Though it’s true that four people choose to go to Albania, it’s not a coincidence for three of them. Helena Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell all have connected reasons for going to Albania. Before she’d died and become the Grey Lady, Helena Ravenclaw chose to hide the diadem in Albania, which directly caused the Dark Lord to go there when she told him where to find it, and the Dark Lord hiding there then directly caused Quirrell to go. The only one who seems truly to have coincidentally visited Albania was Bertha Jorkins, who went there on vacation.
The Dark Lord only used Albania because he’d found the diadem there.
The Dark Lord first went to Albania because the Grey Lady told him that’s where the diadem was.
“So Voldemort had managed to wheedle the location of the lost diadem out of the Grey Lady. He had travelled to that far-flung forest and retrieved the diadem from its hiding place, perhaps as soon as he left Hogwarts, before he even started work at Borgin and Burkes.â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
Then, when the Dark Lord needed a place to hide years later, he returned to those same woods.
“And wouldn’t those secluded Albanian woods have seemed an excellent refuge when, so much later, Voldemort had needed a place to lie low, undisturbed, for ten long years?â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
The Dark Lord’s reason for choosing Albania was directly because Helena Ravenclaw had first.
Quirrell went to Albania since he deliberately sought out the Dark Lord.
In the JKR Pottermore writing on Professor Quirrell, she stated he purposely sought the Dark Lord.
Quirrell set out deliberately to find whatever remained of the Dark wizard, partly out of curiosity, partly out of that unacknowledged desire for importance. At the very least, Quirrell fantasised that he could be the man who tracked Voldemort down, but at best, might learn skills from Voldemort that would ensure he was never laughed at again.
- Professor Quirrell (Pottermore)
Therefore, it wasn’t a coincidence that he went to Albania, where the Dark Lord was rumored to be.
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Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
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up vote
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Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell had connected reasons.
Though it’s true that four people choose to go to Albania, it’s not a coincidence for three of them. Helena Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell all have connected reasons for going to Albania. Before she’d died and become the Grey Lady, Helena Ravenclaw chose to hide the diadem in Albania, which directly caused the Dark Lord to go there when she told him where to find it, and the Dark Lord hiding there then directly caused Quirrell to go. The only one who seems truly to have coincidentally visited Albania was Bertha Jorkins, who went there on vacation.
The Dark Lord only used Albania because he’d found the diadem there.
The Dark Lord first went to Albania because the Grey Lady told him that’s where the diadem was.
“So Voldemort had managed to wheedle the location of the lost diadem out of the Grey Lady. He had travelled to that far-flung forest and retrieved the diadem from its hiding place, perhaps as soon as he left Hogwarts, before he even started work at Borgin and Burkes.â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
Then, when the Dark Lord needed a place to hide years later, he returned to those same woods.
“And wouldn’t those secluded Albanian woods have seemed an excellent refuge when, so much later, Voldemort had needed a place to lie low, undisturbed, for ten long years?â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
The Dark Lord’s reason for choosing Albania was directly because Helena Ravenclaw had first.
Quirrell went to Albania since he deliberately sought out the Dark Lord.
In the JKR Pottermore writing on Professor Quirrell, she stated he purposely sought the Dark Lord.
Quirrell set out deliberately to find whatever remained of the Dark wizard, partly out of curiosity, partly out of that unacknowledged desire for importance. At the very least, Quirrell fantasised that he could be the man who tracked Voldemort down, but at best, might learn skills from Voldemort that would ensure he was never laughed at again.
- Professor Quirrell (Pottermore)
Therefore, it wasn’t a coincidence that he went to Albania, where the Dark Lord was rumored to be.
answered 1 hour ago
Bellatrix
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Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
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up vote
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Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell had connected reasons.
Though it’s true that four people choose to go to Albania, it’s not a coincidence for three of them. Helena Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell all have connected reasons for going to Albania. Before she’d died and become the Grey Lady, Helena Ravenclaw chose to hide the diadem in Albania, which directly caused the Dark Lord to go there when she told him where to find it, and the Dark Lord hiding there then directly caused Quirrell to go. The only one who seems truly to have coincidentally visited Albania was Bertha Jorkins, who went there on vacation.
The Dark Lord only used Albania because he’d found the diadem there.
The Dark Lord first went to Albania because the Grey Lady told him that’s where the diadem was.
“So Voldemort had managed to wheedle the location of the lost diadem out of the Grey Lady. He had travelled to that far-flung forest and retrieved the diadem from its hiding place, perhaps as soon as he left Hogwarts, before he even started work at Borgin and Burkes.â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
Then, when the Dark Lord needed a place to hide years later, he returned to those same woods.
“And wouldn’t those secluded Albanian woods have seemed an excellent refuge when, so much later, Voldemort had needed a place to lie low, undisturbed, for ten long years?â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
The Dark Lord’s reason for choosing Albania was directly because Helena Ravenclaw had first.
Quirrell went to Albania since he deliberately sought out the Dark Lord.
In the JKR Pottermore writing on Professor Quirrell, she stated he purposely sought the Dark Lord.
Quirrell set out deliberately to find whatever remained of the Dark wizard, partly out of curiosity, partly out of that unacknowledged desire for importance. At the very least, Quirrell fantasised that he could be the man who tracked Voldemort down, but at best, might learn skills from Voldemort that would ensure he was never laughed at again.
- Professor Quirrell (Pottermore)
Therefore, it wasn’t a coincidence that he went to Albania, where the Dark Lord was rumored to be.
answered 1 hour ago
Bellatrix
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Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell had connected reasons.
Though it’s true that four people choose to go to Albania, it’s not a coincidence for three of them. Helena Ravenclaw, the Dark Lord, and Quirrell all have connected reasons for going to Albania. Before she’d died and become the Grey Lady, Helena Ravenclaw chose to hide the diadem in Albania, which directly caused the Dark Lord to go there when she told him where to find it, and the Dark Lord hiding there then directly caused Quirrell to go. The only one who seems truly to have coincidentally visited Albania was Bertha Jorkins, who went there on vacation.
The Dark Lord only used Albania because he’d found the diadem there.
The Dark Lord first went to Albania because the Grey Lady told him that’s where the diadem was.
“So Voldemort had managed to wheedle the location of the lost diadem out of the Grey Lady. He had travelled to that far-flung forest and retrieved the diadem from its hiding place, perhaps as soon as he left Hogwarts, before he even started work at Borgin and Burkes.â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
Then, when the Dark Lord needed a place to hide years later, he returned to those same woods.
“And wouldn’t those secluded Albanian woods have seemed an excellent refuge when, so much later, Voldemort had needed a place to lie low, undisturbed, for ten long years?â€Â
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 31 (The Battle of Hogwarts)
The Dark Lord’s reason for choosing Albania was directly because Helena Ravenclaw had first.
Quirrell went to Albania since he deliberately sought out the Dark Lord.
In the JKR Pottermore writing on Professor Quirrell, she stated he purposely sought the Dark Lord.
Quirrell set out deliberately to find whatever remained of the Dark wizard, partly out of curiosity, partly out of that unacknowledged desire for importance. At the very least, Quirrell fantasised that he could be the man who tracked Voldemort down, but at best, might learn skills from Voldemort that would ensure he was never laughed at again.
- Professor Quirrell (Pottermore)
Therefore, it wasn’t a coincidence that he went to Albania, where the Dark Lord was rumored to be.
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Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
Bertha Jorkins is brought up more often than she would have otherwise, because she was killed by Voldemort. So there's more information about her and that's the reason for yet another Albania mention. Vacation locations of other people aren't necessarily mentioned. So it's coincidence for her, but a high chance among the mentioned locations.
– Fabian Röling
1 hour ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
@FabianRöling Well yes, she’s brought up more often because the Dark Lord kills her, but that’s itself a result of her going to Albania. The question asks why Albania is so popular in-universe as a travel destination, and it’s a coincidence in-universe that Bertha Jorkins chose it for her vacation and was subsequently killed by the Dark Lord. Of course, out-of-universe, Bertha Jorkins is mainly significant to the plot because she ended up in Albania and once there fell into the Dark Lord’s trap. The plot couldn’t have unfolded as it did without Bertha Jorkins going to Albania.
– Bellatrix
57 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
We know that Bertha Jorkins had a relative in Albania, as Bagman says: She definitely arrived in Albania, because she met her second cousin there. Perhaps that is part of the reason she chose that destination?
– Alex
48 mins ago
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The statement that Albania is a popular travel destination contradicts the idea in the linked question that it is a secluded area with few local population, both magical and miggle.
– TimSparrow
3 hours ago
I think it may be useful for you to list a number of instances in which Albania is mentioned. It would allow the reader to try to figure out an answer without first having to confirm that what you said is accurate, and that there aren't specific answers for each separate instance.
– Misha R
3 hours ago
Voldemort came to Albania because of Helena, so I think those two really count as one instance. Similarly, perhaps Quirrel was chasing down Dark Arts rumours and so followed them to Albania?
– DavidS
3 hours ago
Could you perhaps summarize the theory from the video so that other people don't have to watch it? Anyhow, please consider that the books were written long before political correctness was a thing. My personal explanation was always that Albania is not really associated with nice things in Rowling's mind. Kind of like the Black Forest is often referenced in the cannon because of stereotype and what it used to be 100 years ago and not the heavily industrialized region of today. Also bare in mind that the new movie displays the US as a haven for religious extremists. I think it's all consistent
– Raditz_35
3 hours ago
@Raditz_35 - " Long before political correctness was a thing." The term was developed in the 80s and was being criticized by conservative pundits widely in the early 90s. And of course the idea itself is older.
– Adamant
2 hours ago