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You did not understand the source right. It is not true that Kepler has no antenna at all.
– Uwe
Sep 7 at 12:32
I would mention that the tag low-earth-orbit is not relevant here, and artifical-satellite tag probably too :) Kepler is orbiting Sun, not Earth.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:51
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Your next question could be "why didn't they use a phased array?" How is GAIA's phased array configured, mechanically and electrically?
– uhoh
Sep 7 at 15:17
Related, but not a duplicate: What makes time on the DSN so expensive?
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Sep 7 at 15:56
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A question from here: "Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead of having an antenna always directed to Earth"?
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A question from here: "Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead of having an antenna always directed to Earth"?
artificial-satellite exoplanet astronomy kepler-telescope
edited Sep 7 at 18:06
Peter Mortensen
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asked Sep 7 at 11:18
J. Doe
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edited Sep 7 at 18:06
Peter Mortensen
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edited Sep 7 at 18:06
Peter Mortensen
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edited Sep 7 at 18:06
Peter Mortensen
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asked Sep 7 at 11:18
J. Doe
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asked Sep 7 at 11:18
J. Doe
649322
asked Sep 7 at 11:18
J. Doe
649322
649322
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You did not understand the source right. It is not true that Kepler has no antenna at all.
– Uwe
Sep 7 at 12:32
I would mention that the tag low-earth-orbit is not relevant here, and artifical-satellite tag probably too :) Kepler is orbiting Sun, not Earth.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:51
1
Your next question could be "why didn't they use a phased array?" How is GAIA's phased array configured, mechanically and electrically?
– uhoh
Sep 7 at 15:17
Related, but not a duplicate: What makes time on the DSN so expensive?
– David Hammen
Sep 7 at 15:56
@Heopps You have enough rep to edit so just do that.
– David Richerby
Sep 8 at 18:58
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You did not understand the source right. It is not true that Kepler has no antenna at all.
– Uwe
Sep 7 at 12:32
I would mention that the tag low-earth-orbit is not relevant here, and artifical-satellite tag probably too :) Kepler is orbiting Sun, not Earth.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:51
1
Your next question could be "why didn't they use a phased array?" How is GAIA's phased array configured, mechanically and electrically?
– uhoh
Sep 7 at 15:17
Related, but not a duplicate: What makes time on the DSN so expensive?
– David Hammen
Sep 7 at 15:56
@Heopps You have enough rep to edit so just do that.
– David Richerby
Sep 8 at 18:58
2
2
You did not understand the source right. It is not true that Kepler has no antenna at all.
– Uwe
Sep 7 at 12:32
You did not understand the source right. It is not true that Kepler has no antenna at all.
– Uwe
Sep 7 at 12:32
I would mention that the tag low-earth-orbit is not relevant here, and artifical-satellite tag probably too :) Kepler is orbiting Sun, not Earth.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:51
I would mention that the tag low-earth-orbit is not relevant here, and artifical-satellite tag probably too :) Kepler is orbiting Sun, not Earth.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:51
1
1
Your next question could be "why didn't they use a phased array?" How is GAIA's phased array configured, mechanically and electrically?
– uhoh
Sep 7 at 15:17
Your next question could be "why didn't they use a phased array?" How is GAIA's phased array configured, mechanically and electrically?
– uhoh
Sep 7 at 15:17
Related, but not a duplicate: What makes time on the DSN so expensive?
– David Hammen
Sep 7 at 15:56
Related, but not a duplicate: What makes time on the DSN so expensive?
– David Hammen
Sep 7 at 15:56
@Heopps You have enough rep to edit so just do that.
– David Richerby
Sep 8 at 18:58
@Heopps You have enough rep to edit so just do that.
– David Richerby
Sep 8 at 18:58
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Kepler has a parabolic dish antenna fixed to its body.
There are many possible designs of transmitting devices. For spacecraft, parabolic dish antennas are preferred, because they have the least attenuation for radio waves with distance. But dish antennas must be pointed to the receiver.
The Kepler telescope was over-budget for a Discovery-class mission, so some compromises were accepted. One of them was to use a fixed dish instead of a dish on a steerable arm.
Instead of this:
it turned to this:
You can see the fixed dish at the lower part of the spacecraft.
From the NASA FAQ about Kepler:
D6. Why is the high-gain antenna fixed on the spacecraft rather than on a gimbaled arm?
Early in the spacecraft design phase, a decision was made to mount the
antenna directly on the spacecraft. There were two reasons: it reduced
the mission design and construction cost, and it reduced risk of
failure of the arm to extend the antenna after launch.
Because of this, Kepler needs to interrupt its observations for transmission of collected data. It turns the whole body to point the fixed dish antenna towards Earth.
To address the comment:
why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data
Kepler is on an Earth-trailing orbit with a period of 371 days. You can see it in this picture:
Kepler's distance to Earth is changing with time as well as direction. Kepler was designed to stare at a fixed area in the sky for at least three years. Remember also that both Kepler and Earth are moving around the Sun, but stars do not. As a result, the angle between two lines (Kepler-Earth and Kepler-area of interest) is always changing. So it's impossible to set a fixed dish to always point towards Earth.
The same is for the K2 mission where Kepler stares at a fixed area in the sky for about 80 days and then switches to another area. (The areas should be close to the ecliptic because of solar light pressure balance requirements). These pictures show K2 areas as well as the initial (primary mission) area:
Source
Source
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
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answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
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thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
4
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
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Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead having an antenna always directed to Earth?
There was no need to always have an antenna pointed directly at the Earth because communication with the Earth was infrequent, less than eight hours per month.
There are a lot more deep space assets than there are receivers to communicate with those assets. The solution is to have intermittent communications, with the space assets recording data for subsequent high speed playback during their short communication time slots with the Deep Space Network.
Time on the Deep Space Network is rather expensive, ranging from about $1000 (US) to $5000 per hour, plus an extra hour each of setup and teardown time. Because the Earth rotates, a full time, 24/7/365 contact would require switching between ground stations, requiring over 30 hours of DSN contact time per day, including setup and teardown time. A full-time, 24/7/365 contact would have made Kepler's DSN costs alone be well in excess of ten million dollars per year. It would also have required that Kepler have a significantly more expensive antenna than it did have.
Kepler was intended from the start to be a low cost mission. Instead of full-time contact, Kepler had once a month contacts with the DSN. For the vast majority of the month, Kepler was out of contact and was instead collecting data.
answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
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There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
– Joe
Sep 7 at 19:04
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2 Answers
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active
oldest
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down vote
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Kepler has a parabolic dish antenna fixed to its body.
There are many possible designs of transmitting devices. For spacecraft, parabolic dish antennas are preferred, because they have the least attenuation for radio waves with distance. But dish antennas must be pointed to the receiver.
The Kepler telescope was over-budget for a Discovery-class mission, so some compromises were accepted. One of them was to use a fixed dish instead of a dish on a steerable arm.
Instead of this:
it turned to this:
You can see the fixed dish at the lower part of the spacecraft.
From the NASA FAQ about Kepler:
D6. Why is the high-gain antenna fixed on the spacecraft rather than on a gimbaled arm?
Early in the spacecraft design phase, a decision was made to mount the
antenna directly on the spacecraft. There were two reasons: it reduced
the mission design and construction cost, and it reduced risk of
failure of the arm to extend the antenna after launch.
Because of this, Kepler needs to interrupt its observations for transmission of collected data. It turns the whole body to point the fixed dish antenna towards Earth.
To address the comment:
why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data
Kepler is on an Earth-trailing orbit with a period of 371 days. You can see it in this picture:
Kepler's distance to Earth is changing with time as well as direction. Kepler was designed to stare at a fixed area in the sky for at least three years. Remember also that both Kepler and Earth are moving around the Sun, but stars do not. As a result, the angle between two lines (Kepler-Earth and Kepler-area of interest) is always changing. So it's impossible to set a fixed dish to always point towards Earth.
The same is for the K2 mission where Kepler stares at a fixed area in the sky for about 80 days and then switches to another area. (The areas should be close to the ecliptic because of solar light pressure balance requirements). These pictures show K2 areas as well as the initial (primary mission) area:
Source
Source
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
4
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
26
down vote
accepted
Kepler has a parabolic dish antenna fixed to its body.
There are many possible designs of transmitting devices. For spacecraft, parabolic dish antennas are preferred, because they have the least attenuation for radio waves with distance. But dish antennas must be pointed to the receiver.
The Kepler telescope was over-budget for a Discovery-class mission, so some compromises were accepted. One of them was to use a fixed dish instead of a dish on a steerable arm.
Instead of this:
it turned to this:
You can see the fixed dish at the lower part of the spacecraft.
From the NASA FAQ about Kepler:
D6. Why is the high-gain antenna fixed on the spacecraft rather than on a gimbaled arm?
Early in the spacecraft design phase, a decision was made to mount the
antenna directly on the spacecraft. There were two reasons: it reduced
the mission design and construction cost, and it reduced risk of
failure of the arm to extend the antenna after launch.
Because of this, Kepler needs to interrupt its observations for transmission of collected data. It turns the whole body to point the fixed dish antenna towards Earth.
To address the comment:
why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data
Kepler is on an Earth-trailing orbit with a period of 371 days. You can see it in this picture:
Kepler's distance to Earth is changing with time as well as direction. Kepler was designed to stare at a fixed area in the sky for at least three years. Remember also that both Kepler and Earth are moving around the Sun, but stars do not. As a result, the angle between two lines (Kepler-Earth and Kepler-area of interest) is always changing. So it's impossible to set a fixed dish to always point towards Earth.
The same is for the K2 mission where Kepler stares at a fixed area in the sky for about 80 days and then switches to another area. (The areas should be close to the ecliptic because of solar light pressure balance requirements). These pictures show K2 areas as well as the initial (primary mission) area:
Source
Source
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
4
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
26
down vote
accepted
up vote
26
down vote
accepted
Kepler has a parabolic dish antenna fixed to its body.
There are many possible designs of transmitting devices. For spacecraft, parabolic dish antennas are preferred, because they have the least attenuation for radio waves with distance. But dish antennas must be pointed to the receiver.
The Kepler telescope was over-budget for a Discovery-class mission, so some compromises were accepted. One of them was to use a fixed dish instead of a dish on a steerable arm.
Instead of this:
it turned to this:
You can see the fixed dish at the lower part of the spacecraft.
From the NASA FAQ about Kepler:
D6. Why is the high-gain antenna fixed on the spacecraft rather than on a gimbaled arm?
Early in the spacecraft design phase, a decision was made to mount the
antenna directly on the spacecraft. There were two reasons: it reduced
the mission design and construction cost, and it reduced risk of
failure of the arm to extend the antenna after launch.
Because of this, Kepler needs to interrupt its observations for transmission of collected data. It turns the whole body to point the fixed dish antenna towards Earth.
To address the comment:
why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data
Kepler is on an Earth-trailing orbit with a period of 371 days. You can see it in this picture:
Kepler's distance to Earth is changing with time as well as direction. Kepler was designed to stare at a fixed area in the sky for at least three years. Remember also that both Kepler and Earth are moving around the Sun, but stars do not. As a result, the angle between two lines (Kepler-Earth and Kepler-area of interest) is always changing. So it's impossible to set a fixed dish to always point towards Earth.
The same is for the K2 mission where Kepler stares at a fixed area in the sky for about 80 days and then switches to another area. (The areas should be close to the ecliptic because of solar light pressure balance requirements). These pictures show K2 areas as well as the initial (primary mission) area:
Source
Source
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
Kepler has a parabolic dish antenna fixed to its body.
There are many possible designs of transmitting devices. For spacecraft, parabolic dish antennas are preferred, because they have the least attenuation for radio waves with distance. But dish antennas must be pointed to the receiver.
The Kepler telescope was over-budget for a Discovery-class mission, so some compromises were accepted. One of them was to use a fixed dish instead of a dish on a steerable arm.
Instead of this:
it turned to this:
You can see the fixed dish at the lower part of the spacecraft.
From the NASA FAQ about Kepler:
D6. Why is the high-gain antenna fixed on the spacecraft rather than on a gimbaled arm?
Early in the spacecraft design phase, a decision was made to mount the
antenna directly on the spacecraft. There were two reasons: it reduced
the mission design and construction cost, and it reduced risk of
failure of the arm to extend the antenna after launch.
Because of this, Kepler needs to interrupt its observations for transmission of collected data. It turns the whole body to point the fixed dish antenna towards Earth.
To address the comment:
why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data
Kepler is on an Earth-trailing orbit with a period of 371 days. You can see it in this picture:
Kepler's distance to Earth is changing with time as well as direction. Kepler was designed to stare at a fixed area in the sky for at least three years. Remember also that both Kepler and Earth are moving around the Sun, but stars do not. As a result, the angle between two lines (Kepler-Earth and Kepler-area of interest) is always changing. So it's impossible to set a fixed dish to always point towards Earth.
The same is for the K2 mission where Kepler stares at a fixed area in the sky for about 80 days and then switches to another area. (The areas should be close to the ecliptic because of solar light pressure balance requirements). These pictures show K2 areas as well as the initial (primary mission) area:
Source
Source
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
edited Sep 7 at 18:00
Nathan Tuggy
3,16042135
3,16042135
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
answered Sep 7 at 12:18
Heopps
3,4491926
3,4491926
thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
4
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
 |Â
show 1 more comment
thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
4
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
thank you so much! But then in terms of the original question, why is Kepler not design in a way that it always points to Earth with the communication device simultaneously being able to collect data, or is this same device? Or do I miss anything.
– J. Doe
Sep 7 at 13:28
4
4
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
Cost and weight.
– Russell Borogove
Sep 7 at 14:00
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
@J. Doe I've expanded the answer.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:07
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
One of the trade-offs of the design is that the reaction wheels were used more often. The new TESS satellite has both thrusters and reaction wheels to make up for a worn-out reaction wheel.
– Christopher Hostage
Sep 7 at 15:53
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
@J.Doe Because it needs to point at the thing it's observing.
– David Richerby
Sep 7 at 16:10
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
7
down vote
Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead having an antenna always directed to Earth?
There was no need to always have an antenna pointed directly at the Earth because communication with the Earth was infrequent, less than eight hours per month.
There are a lot more deep space assets than there are receivers to communicate with those assets. The solution is to have intermittent communications, with the space assets recording data for subsequent high speed playback during their short communication time slots with the Deep Space Network.
Time on the Deep Space Network is rather expensive, ranging from about $1000 (US) to $5000 per hour, plus an extra hour each of setup and teardown time. Because the Earth rotates, a full time, 24/7/365 contact would require switching between ground stations, requiring over 30 hours of DSN contact time per day, including setup and teardown time. A full-time, 24/7/365 contact would have made Kepler's DSN costs alone be well in excess of ten million dollars per year. It would also have required that Kepler have a significantly more expensive antenna than it did have.
Kepler was intended from the start to be a low cost mission. Instead of full-time contact, Kepler had once a month contacts with the DSN. For the vast majority of the month, Kepler was out of contact and was instead collecting data.
answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
27.9k166124
3
There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
– Joe
Sep 7 at 19:04
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead having an antenna always directed to Earth?
There was no need to always have an antenna pointed directly at the Earth because communication with the Earth was infrequent, less than eight hours per month.
There are a lot more deep space assets than there are receivers to communicate with those assets. The solution is to have intermittent communications, with the space assets recording data for subsequent high speed playback during their short communication time slots with the Deep Space Network.
Time on the Deep Space Network is rather expensive, ranging from about $1000 (US) to $5000 per hour, plus an extra hour each of setup and teardown time. Because the Earth rotates, a full time, 24/7/365 contact would require switching between ground stations, requiring over 30 hours of DSN contact time per day, including setup and teardown time. A full-time, 24/7/365 contact would have made Kepler's DSN costs alone be well in excess of ten million dollars per year. It would also have required that Kepler have a significantly more expensive antenna than it did have.
Kepler was intended from the start to be a low cost mission. Instead of full-time contact, Kepler had once a month contacts with the DSN. For the vast majority of the month, Kepler was out of contact and was instead collecting data.
answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
27.9k166124
3
There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
– Joe
Sep 7 at 19:04
add a comment |Â
up vote
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down vote
up vote
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down vote
Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead having an antenna always directed to Earth?
There was no need to always have an antenna pointed directly at the Earth because communication with the Earth was infrequent, less than eight hours per month.
There are a lot more deep space assets than there are receivers to communicate with those assets. The solution is to have intermittent communications, with the space assets recording data for subsequent high speed playback during their short communication time slots with the Deep Space Network.
Time on the Deep Space Network is rather expensive, ranging from about $1000 (US) to $5000 per hour, plus an extra hour each of setup and teardown time. Because the Earth rotates, a full time, 24/7/365 contact would require switching between ground stations, requiring over 30 hours of DSN contact time per day, including setup and teardown time. A full-time, 24/7/365 contact would have made Kepler's DSN costs alone be well in excess of ten million dollars per year. It would also have required that Kepler have a significantly more expensive antenna than it did have.
Kepler was intended from the start to be a low cost mission. Instead of full-time contact, Kepler had once a month contacts with the DSN. For the vast majority of the month, Kepler was out of contact and was instead collecting data.
answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
27.9k166124
Why would Kepler rotate towards Earth instead having an antenna always directed to Earth?
There was no need to always have an antenna pointed directly at the Earth because communication with the Earth was infrequent, less than eight hours per month.
There are a lot more deep space assets than there are receivers to communicate with those assets. The solution is to have intermittent communications, with the space assets recording data for subsequent high speed playback during their short communication time slots with the Deep Space Network.
Time on the Deep Space Network is rather expensive, ranging from about $1000 (US) to $5000 per hour, plus an extra hour each of setup and teardown time. Because the Earth rotates, a full time, 24/7/365 contact would require switching between ground stations, requiring over 30 hours of DSN contact time per day, including setup and teardown time. A full-time, 24/7/365 contact would have made Kepler's DSN costs alone be well in excess of ten million dollars per year. It would also have required that Kepler have a significantly more expensive antenna than it did have.
Kepler was intended from the start to be a low cost mission. Instead of full-time contact, Kepler had once a month contacts with the DSN. For the vast majority of the month, Kepler was out of contact and was instead collecting data.
answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
27.9k166124
edited Sep 7 at 16:26
answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
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answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
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answered Sep 7 at 16:13
David Hammen
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There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
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There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
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Sep 7 at 19:04
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There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
– Joe
Sep 7 at 19:04
There's also competition for time on the DSN. When your spacecraft is effectively in the direction of other planets from Earth, planetary missions tend to suck up the available time. Kepler at least won't compete with the L1 missions. It's also worth mentioning that non-geostationary spacecraft that serve NRT (near real time) data often have two antenna ... one for DSN, one for the NRT data. (STEREO uses 30M dishes for the 'beacon' data, but 70M dishes for the daily dump of the SSR (solid state recorder)
– Joe
Sep 7 at 19:04
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You did not understand the source right. It is not true that Kepler has no antenna at all.
– Uwe
Sep 7 at 12:32
I would mention that the tag low-earth-orbit is not relevant here, and artifical-satellite tag probably too :) Kepler is orbiting Sun, not Earth.
– Heopps
Sep 7 at 14:51
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Your next question could be "why didn't they use a phased array?" How is GAIA's phased array configured, mechanically and electrically?
– uhoh
Sep 7 at 15:17
Related, but not a duplicate: What makes time on the DSN so expensive?
– David Hammen
Sep 7 at 15:56
@Heopps You have enough rep to edit so just do that.
– David Richerby
Sep 8 at 18:58