Mixing
Geordi's authority in Arsenal of Freedom [on hold]
Clash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP
.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;
up vote
10
down vote
favorite
Just watching The Arsenal of Freedom, and I thought La Forge was a bit arrogant. I usually like the character, but he was acting like Logan's superior rank meant nothing!
Can a junior grade lieutenant assume command when there's one person of superior rank (the chief engineer, no less) on board?
star-trek star-trek-tng starfleet-rank
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
put on hold as unclear what you're asking by neilfein, TheLethalCarrot, Jenayah, Loki, NKCampbell 2 days ago
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
 |Â
show 2 more comments
up vote
10
down vote
favorite
Just watching The Arsenal of Freedom, and I thought La Forge was a bit arrogant. I usually like the character, but he was acting like Logan's superior rank meant nothing!
Can a junior grade lieutenant assume command when there's one person of superior rank (the chief engineer, no less) on board?
star-trek star-trek-tng starfleet-rank
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
put on hold as unclear what you're asking by neilfein, TheLethalCarrot, Jenayah, Loki, NKCampbell 2 days ago
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Are you asking for opinions on Geordi's behavior or about Starfleet procedure?
– FuzzyBoots
Sep 8 at 20:58
Do you want the Star Trek answer, or the real world answer?
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 9:56
1
In the US Navy, Ensigns and Lieutenants jg are Officers Of The Deck on even the largest ships.
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 10:08
1
@RonJohn - You might want to note that Trek is largely based on the British naval tradition.
– Valorum
Sep 9 at 12:43
1
LaForge didn't assume command, Picard left him in command
– NKCampbell
2 days ago
 |Â
show 2 more comments
up vote
10
down vote
favorite
up vote
10
down vote
favorite
Just watching The Arsenal of Freedom, and I thought La Forge was a bit arrogant. I usually like the character, but he was acting like Logan's superior rank meant nothing!
Can a junior grade lieutenant assume command when there's one person of superior rank (the chief engineer, no less) on board?
star-trek star-trek-tng starfleet-rank
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
Just watching The Arsenal of Freedom, and I thought La Forge was a bit arrogant. I usually like the character, but he was acting like Logan's superior rank meant nothing!
Can a junior grade lieutenant assume command when there's one person of superior rank (the chief engineer, no less) on board?
star-trek star-trek-tng starfleet-rank
star-trek star-trek-tng starfleet-rank
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
edited Sep 8 at 21:44
Valorum
373k9627212952
373k9627212952
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
asked Sep 8 at 20:45
Alex Jones
1012
1012
put on hold as unclear what you're asking by neilfein, TheLethalCarrot, Jenayah, Loki, NKCampbell 2 days ago
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
put on hold as unclear what you're asking by neilfein, TheLethalCarrot, Jenayah, Loki, NKCampbell 2 days ago
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Are you asking for opinions on Geordi's behavior or about Starfleet procedure?
– FuzzyBoots
Sep 8 at 20:58
Do you want the Star Trek answer, or the real world answer?
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 9:56
1
In the US Navy, Ensigns and Lieutenants jg are Officers Of The Deck on even the largest ships.
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 10:08
1
@RonJohn - You might want to note that Trek is largely based on the British naval tradition.
– Valorum
Sep 9 at 12:43
1
LaForge didn't assume command, Picard left him in command
– NKCampbell
2 days ago
 |Â
show 2 more comments
Are you asking for opinions on Geordi's behavior or about Starfleet procedure?
– FuzzyBoots
Sep 8 at 20:58
Do you want the Star Trek answer, or the real world answer?
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 9:56
1
In the US Navy, Ensigns and Lieutenants jg are Officers Of The Deck on even the largest ships.
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 10:08
1
@RonJohn - You might want to note that Trek is largely based on the British naval tradition.
– Valorum
Sep 9 at 12:43
1
LaForge didn't assume command, Picard left him in command
– NKCampbell
2 days ago
Are you asking for opinions on Geordi's behavior or about Starfleet procedure?
– FuzzyBoots
Sep 8 at 20:58
Are you asking for opinions on Geordi's behavior or about Starfleet procedure?
– FuzzyBoots
Sep 8 at 20:58
Do you want the Star Trek answer, or the real world answer?
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 9:56
Do you want the Star Trek answer, or the real world answer?
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 9:56
1
1
In the US Navy, Ensigns and Lieutenants jg are Officers Of The Deck on even the largest ships.
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 10:08
In the US Navy, Ensigns and Lieutenants jg are Officers Of The Deck on even the largest ships.
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 10:08
1
1
@RonJohn - You might want to note that Trek is largely based on the British naval tradition.
– Valorum
Sep 9 at 12:43
@RonJohn - You might want to note that Trek is largely based on the British naval tradition.
– Valorum
Sep 9 at 12:43
1
1
LaForge didn't assume command, Picard left him in command
– NKCampbell
2 days ago
LaForge didn't assume command, Picard left him in command
– NKCampbell
2 days ago
 |Â
show 2 more comments
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
up vote
23
down vote
Geordi didn't assume command, he was given command by his superior officer.
PICARD: Yes. Doctor Crusher, this is the Captain. Meet me in Transporter room three. Mister La Forge, you have command of the
Bridge.
LAFORGE: Aye, sir.
PICARD: And whatever happens down there, your prime responsibility is to the ship.
And although Logan has the superior rank, that doesn't mean that he can override the wishes of the Captain (by assuming command or attempting to give orders to La Forge) just because Picard is temporarily off the ship, any more than Lt. Commander Beverly Crusher can tell him how to run Engineering.
You might also wish to note that command rank is entirely in the gift of the Captain rather than being decided by simple rank, hence why Ensign Kim can run the Ops Dept. on the USS Voyager.
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
2
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
23
down vote
Geordi didn't assume command, he was given command by his superior officer.
PICARD: Yes. Doctor Crusher, this is the Captain. Meet me in Transporter room three. Mister La Forge, you have command of the
Bridge.
LAFORGE: Aye, sir.
PICARD: And whatever happens down there, your prime responsibility is to the ship.
And although Logan has the superior rank, that doesn't mean that he can override the wishes of the Captain (by assuming command or attempting to give orders to La Forge) just because Picard is temporarily off the ship, any more than Lt. Commander Beverly Crusher can tell him how to run Engineering.
You might also wish to note that command rank is entirely in the gift of the Captain rather than being decided by simple rank, hence why Ensign Kim can run the Ops Dept. on the USS Voyager.
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
2
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
up vote
23
down vote
Geordi didn't assume command, he was given command by his superior officer.
PICARD: Yes. Doctor Crusher, this is the Captain. Meet me in Transporter room three. Mister La Forge, you have command of the
Bridge.
LAFORGE: Aye, sir.
PICARD: And whatever happens down there, your prime responsibility is to the ship.
And although Logan has the superior rank, that doesn't mean that he can override the wishes of the Captain (by assuming command or attempting to give orders to La Forge) just because Picard is temporarily off the ship, any more than Lt. Commander Beverly Crusher can tell him how to run Engineering.
You might also wish to note that command rank is entirely in the gift of the Captain rather than being decided by simple rank, hence why Ensign Kim can run the Ops Dept. on the USS Voyager.
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
2
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
up vote
23
down vote
up vote
23
down vote
Geordi didn't assume command, he was given command by his superior officer.
PICARD: Yes. Doctor Crusher, this is the Captain. Meet me in Transporter room three. Mister La Forge, you have command of the
Bridge.
LAFORGE: Aye, sir.
PICARD: And whatever happens down there, your prime responsibility is to the ship.
And although Logan has the superior rank, that doesn't mean that he can override the wishes of the Captain (by assuming command or attempting to give orders to La Forge) just because Picard is temporarily off the ship, any more than Lt. Commander Beverly Crusher can tell him how to run Engineering.
You might also wish to note that command rank is entirely in the gift of the Captain rather than being decided by simple rank, hence why Ensign Kim can run the Ops Dept. on the USS Voyager.
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
Geordi didn't assume command, he was given command by his superior officer.
PICARD: Yes. Doctor Crusher, this is the Captain. Meet me in Transporter room three. Mister La Forge, you have command of the
Bridge.
LAFORGE: Aye, sir.
PICARD: And whatever happens down there, your prime responsibility is to the ship.
And although Logan has the superior rank, that doesn't mean that he can override the wishes of the Captain (by assuming command or attempting to give orders to La Forge) just because Picard is temporarily off the ship, any more than Lt. Commander Beverly Crusher can tell him how to run Engineering.
You might also wish to note that command rank is entirely in the gift of the Captain rather than being decided by simple rank, hence why Ensign Kim can run the Ops Dept. on the USS Voyager.
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
edited Sep 8 at 21:43
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
answered Sep 8 at 21:17
Valorum
373k9627212952
373k9627212952
2
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
2
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
2
2
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
Exactly. The moment the captain tells you you're responsible for the ship, you're put in the captain's position. Rank is quite irrelevant compared to the captain's position.
– Mast
Sep 9 at 9:42
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
He also isn't in his chain of command so if something like that were followed he couldn't give him orders anyway. He could tell him what to do if he were in the engineering section of the ship and was helping out down there, but the rank itself didn't put him above him. In terms of rank they were "cousins" and that's just how it works with that system.
– The Great Duck
Sep 9 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
Are you asking for opinions on Geordi's behavior or about Starfleet procedure?
– FuzzyBoots
Sep 8 at 20:58
Do you want the Star Trek answer, or the real world answer?
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 9:56
1
In the US Navy, Ensigns and Lieutenants jg are Officers Of The Deck on even the largest ships.
– RonJohn
Sep 9 at 10:08
1
@RonJohn - You might want to note that Trek is largely based on the British naval tradition.
– Valorum
Sep 9 at 12:43
1
LaForge didn't assume command, Picard left him in command
– NKCampbell
2 days ago