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Can the College of Swords' Blade Flourish features be used entirely with ranged attacks?
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Is there any reason I couldn't just play a bard with a bow and use the Blade flourishes?
I'm pretty sure I missed a word somewhere, because after reading through the whole thing, I came to the conclusion that the only time the word "melee" came up was in the fighting styles and the use of a melee weapon for a focus (the latter of which doesn't matter with bows, since you can free a hand to cast).
Some of the effects aren't valuable to a range-specific character, but I'm strictly talking semantics.
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Is there any reason I couldn't just play a bard with a bow and use the Blade flourishes?
I'm pretty sure I missed a word somewhere, because after reading through the whole thing, I came to the conclusion that the only time the word "melee" came up was in the fighting styles and the use of a melee weapon for a focus (the latter of which doesn't matter with bows, since you can free a hand to cast).
Some of the effects aren't valuable to a range-specific character, but I'm strictly talking semantics.
dnd-5e class-feature bard ranged-attack
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Is there any reason I couldn't just play a bard with a bow and use the Blade flourishes?
I'm pretty sure I missed a word somewhere, because after reading through the whole thing, I came to the conclusion that the only time the word "melee" came up was in the fighting styles and the use of a melee weapon for a focus (the latter of which doesn't matter with bows, since you can free a hand to cast).
Some of the effects aren't valuable to a range-specific character, but I'm strictly talking semantics.
dnd-5e class-feature bard ranged-attack
edited Aug 24 at 18:29
V2Blast
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asked Aug 24 at 15:31
Daniel Zastoupil
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Is there any reason I couldn't just play a bard with a bow and use the Blade flourishes?
I'm pretty sure I missed a word somewhere, because after reading through the whole thing, I came to the conclusion that the only time the word "melee" came up was in the fighting styles and the use of a melee weapon for a focus (the latter of which doesn't matter with bows, since you can free a hand to cast).
Some of the effects aren't valuable to a range-specific character, but I'm strictly talking semantics.
dnd-5e class-feature bard ranged-attack
edited Aug 24 at 18:29
V2Blast
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asked Aug 24 at 15:31
Daniel Zastoupil
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edited Aug 24 at 18:29
V2Blast
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edited Aug 24 at 18:29
V2Blast
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Ranged Works!
As you surmise, the only requirement for the Blade Flourish is (my emphasis):
Whenever you take the Attack action ... and if a weapon attack that you make as part of this action hits a creature, you can use one of the following Blade Flourish options of your choice.
If you've taken the Attack action, then you can Flourish. There is no requirement for Melee weapons, so Ranged works just as well
Ranged weapons for Bards
Do note that a single-classed Bard is only proficient in the following ranged weapons:
- Hand Crossbow
- Light Crossbow
- Sling
- Dart
- Short Bow
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
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The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
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@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
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Strictly speaking, of course.
You can take College of Swords and never make an attack, it's legal, just not a very good idea.
Practically, only some features will benefit ranged attacks.
In particular, Blade Flourishes only require an Attack.
It doesn't matter what you use for your Attack, it will get the benefit of the Flourishes. Melee, Ranged, it doesn't matter.
answered Aug 24 at 15:43
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2 Answers
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active
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active
oldest
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active
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up vote
11
down vote
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Ranged Works!
As you surmise, the only requirement for the Blade Flourish is (my emphasis):
Whenever you take the Attack action ... and if a weapon attack that you make as part of this action hits a creature, you can use one of the following Blade Flourish options of your choice.
If you've taken the Attack action, then you can Flourish. There is no requirement for Melee weapons, so Ranged works just as well
Ranged weapons for Bards
Do note that a single-classed Bard is only proficient in the following ranged weapons:
- Hand Crossbow
- Light Crossbow
- Sling
- Dart
- Short Bow
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
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The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
1
@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 19:16
add a comment |Â
up vote
11
down vote
accepted
Ranged Works!
As you surmise, the only requirement for the Blade Flourish is (my emphasis):
Whenever you take the Attack action ... and if a weapon attack that you make as part of this action hits a creature, you can use one of the following Blade Flourish options of your choice.
If you've taken the Attack action, then you can Flourish. There is no requirement for Melee weapons, so Ranged works just as well
Ranged weapons for Bards
Do note that a single-classed Bard is only proficient in the following ranged weapons:
- Hand Crossbow
- Light Crossbow
- Sling
- Dart
- Short Bow
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
43.5k6158300
1
The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
1
@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 19:16
add a comment |Â
up vote
11
down vote
accepted
up vote
11
down vote
accepted
Ranged Works!
As you surmise, the only requirement for the Blade Flourish is (my emphasis):
Whenever you take the Attack action ... and if a weapon attack that you make as part of this action hits a creature, you can use one of the following Blade Flourish options of your choice.
If you've taken the Attack action, then you can Flourish. There is no requirement for Melee weapons, so Ranged works just as well
Ranged weapons for Bards
Do note that a single-classed Bard is only proficient in the following ranged weapons:
- Hand Crossbow
- Light Crossbow
- Sling
- Dart
- Short Bow
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
43.5k6158300
Ranged Works!
As you surmise, the only requirement for the Blade Flourish is (my emphasis):
Whenever you take the Attack action ... and if a weapon attack that you make as part of this action hits a creature, you can use one of the following Blade Flourish options of your choice.
If you've taken the Attack action, then you can Flourish. There is no requirement for Melee weapons, so Ranged works just as well
Ranged weapons for Bards
Do note that a single-classed Bard is only proficient in the following ranged weapons:
- Hand Crossbow
- Light Crossbow
- Sling
- Dart
- Short Bow
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
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edited Aug 24 at 15:53
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
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answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
43.5k6158300
answered Aug 24 at 15:38
NautArch
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43.5k6158300
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The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
1
@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 19:16
add a comment |Â
1
The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
1
@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 19:16
1
1
The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
The fighting style is also useless for ranged attacks
– András
Aug 24 at 16:58
1
1
@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
@András Yup - but whether or not this is optimal isn't the question :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 16:59
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
The D&D beyond link does not have Blade Flourish visible without purchase.
– Sir Cinnamon
Aug 24 at 19:12
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 19:16
@SirCinnamon Feel free to add the physical book citation (I don't have my books with me right now) - although that's behind a pay wall if you haven't bought the book :)
– NautArch
Aug 24 at 19:16
add a comment |Â
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Strictly speaking, of course.
You can take College of Swords and never make an attack, it's legal, just not a very good idea.
Practically, only some features will benefit ranged attacks.
In particular, Blade Flourishes only require an Attack.
It doesn't matter what you use for your Attack, it will get the benefit of the Flourishes. Melee, Ranged, it doesn't matter.
answered Aug 24 at 15:43
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Strictly speaking, of course.
You can take College of Swords and never make an attack, it's legal, just not a very good idea.
Practically, only some features will benefit ranged attacks.
In particular, Blade Flourishes only require an Attack.
It doesn't matter what you use for your Attack, it will get the benefit of the Flourishes. Melee, Ranged, it doesn't matter.
answered Aug 24 at 15:43
GreySage
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up vote
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Strictly speaking, of course.
You can take College of Swords and never make an attack, it's legal, just not a very good idea.
Practically, only some features will benefit ranged attacks.
In particular, Blade Flourishes only require an Attack.
It doesn't matter what you use for your Attack, it will get the benefit of the Flourishes. Melee, Ranged, it doesn't matter.
answered Aug 24 at 15:43
GreySage
12.2k44582
Strictly speaking, of course.
You can take College of Swords and never make an attack, it's legal, just not a very good idea.
Practically, only some features will benefit ranged attacks.
In particular, Blade Flourishes only require an Attack.
It doesn't matter what you use for your Attack, it will get the benefit of the Flourishes. Melee, Ranged, it doesn't matter.
answered Aug 24 at 15:43
GreySage
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answered Aug 24 at 15:43
GreySage
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answered Aug 24 at 15:43
GreySage
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answered Aug 24 at 15:43
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