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the situation in a nutshell:
- in my current company, I'm finishing the huge project with a lot of visibility
- I got a job offer from other company and I accepted it
- the other company wants me for start there ASAP (but I told them that I needed the leaving period done at actual company)
- the actual company wants me to stay for the whole leaving period (25 days)
I want to finish the project and move on, but the new company is pressing upon me.
how could I negotiate it with the other company?
job-change negotiation
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
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the situation in a nutshell:
- in my current company, I'm finishing the huge project with a lot of visibility
- I got a job offer from other company and I accepted it
- the other company wants me for start there ASAP (but I told them that I needed the leaving period done at actual company)
- the actual company wants me to stay for the whole leaving period (25 days)
I want to finish the project and move on, but the new company is pressing upon me.
how could I negotiate it with the other company?
job-change negotiation
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
1265
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yes it is. there is a lot of legalese, but it is indeed.
– Draconar
Feb 28 '14 at 19:00
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Point out to them that you they can;t trust you to honor your contract with them if you wil break the contract you have with your current employer
– HLGEM
Feb 28 '14 at 20:29
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up vote
2
down vote
favorite
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
the situation in a nutshell:
- in my current company, I'm finishing the huge project with a lot of visibility
- I got a job offer from other company and I accepted it
- the other company wants me for start there ASAP (but I told them that I needed the leaving period done at actual company)
- the actual company wants me to stay for the whole leaving period (25 days)
I want to finish the project and move on, but the new company is pressing upon me.
how could I negotiate it with the other company?
job-change negotiation
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
1265
the situation in a nutshell:
- in my current company, I'm finishing the huge project with a lot of visibility
- I got a job offer from other company and I accepted it
- the other company wants me for start there ASAP (but I told them that I needed the leaving period done at actual company)
- the actual company wants me to stay for the whole leaving period (25 days)
I want to finish the project and move on, but the new company is pressing upon me.
how could I negotiate it with the other company?
job-change negotiation
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
1265
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
1265
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
1265
asked Feb 28 '14 at 18:28
Draconar
1265
1265
1
yes it is. there is a lot of legalese, but it is indeed.
– Draconar
Feb 28 '14 at 19:00
1
Point out to them that you they can;t trust you to honor your contract with them if you wil break the contract you have with your current employer
– HLGEM
Feb 28 '14 at 20:29
add a comment |Â
1
yes it is. there is a lot of legalese, but it is indeed.
– Draconar
Feb 28 '14 at 19:00
1
Point out to them that you they can;t trust you to honor your contract with them if you wil break the contract you have with your current employer
– HLGEM
Feb 28 '14 at 20:29
1
1
yes it is. there is a lot of legalese, but it is indeed.
– Draconar
Feb 28 '14 at 19:00
yes it is. there is a lot of legalese, but it is indeed.
– Draconar
Feb 28 '14 at 19:00
1
1
Point out to them that you they can;t trust you to honor your contract with them if you wil break the contract you have with your current employer
– HLGEM
Feb 28 '14 at 20:29
Point out to them that you they can;t trust you to honor your contract with them if you wil break the contract you have with your current employer
– HLGEM
Feb 28 '14 at 20:29
add a comment |Â
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I don't think there is anything to negotiate. If you have a contractual obligation to your existing employer and you've disclosed your non-standard departure length to your new employer, the new employer should respect you and your professional responsibility. Anything less and, personally, I'd question the quality and professionalism of the new employer.
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
3
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
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You worked and got paid for your work. You don't owe them anything. If you are definitely leaving to go to the new job just do. A 25 Day leaving period is ridiculous regardless of what you do... You don't owe the other company anything regardless of any personal connections or friendships you may have with anyone.
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
2
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
1
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
10
down vote
accepted
I don't think there is anything to negotiate. If you have a contractual obligation to your existing employer and you've disclosed your non-standard departure length to your new employer, the new employer should respect you and your professional responsibility. Anything less and, personally, I'd question the quality and professionalism of the new employer.
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
3
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
accepted
I don't think there is anything to negotiate. If you have a contractual obligation to your existing employer and you've disclosed your non-standard departure length to your new employer, the new employer should respect you and your professional responsibility. Anything less and, personally, I'd question the quality and professionalism of the new employer.
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
3
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
accepted
up vote
10
down vote
accepted
I don't think there is anything to negotiate. If you have a contractual obligation to your existing employer and you've disclosed your non-standard departure length to your new employer, the new employer should respect you and your professional responsibility. Anything less and, personally, I'd question the quality and professionalism of the new employer.
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
I don't think there is anything to negotiate. If you have a contractual obligation to your existing employer and you've disclosed your non-standard departure length to your new employer, the new employer should respect you and your professional responsibility. Anything less and, personally, I'd question the quality and professionalism of the new employer.
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
answered Feb 28 '14 at 20:16
Jeremy Smith
417411
417411
3
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
add a comment |Â
3
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
3
3
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
I sometimes find helpful saying a variation of "I need to respect the contract I signed with my current employer. I'm sure you'd want me to do the same for you."
– DJClayworth
Feb 28 '14 at 21:43
add a comment |Â
up vote
-4
down vote
You worked and got paid for your work. You don't owe them anything. If you are definitely leaving to go to the new job just do. A 25 Day leaving period is ridiculous regardless of what you do... You don't owe the other company anything regardless of any personal connections or friendships you may have with anyone.
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
2
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
1
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
add a comment |Â
up vote
-4
down vote
You worked and got paid for your work. You don't owe them anything. If you are definitely leaving to go to the new job just do. A 25 Day leaving period is ridiculous regardless of what you do... You don't owe the other company anything regardless of any personal connections or friendships you may have with anyone.
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
2
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
1
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
add a comment |Â
up vote
-4
down vote
up vote
-4
down vote
You worked and got paid for your work. You don't owe them anything. If you are definitely leaving to go to the new job just do. A 25 Day leaving period is ridiculous regardless of what you do... You don't owe the other company anything regardless of any personal connections or friendships you may have with anyone.
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
You worked and got paid for your work. You don't owe them anything. If you are definitely leaving to go to the new job just do. A 25 Day leaving period is ridiculous regardless of what you do... You don't owe the other company anything regardless of any personal connections or friendships you may have with anyone.
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
answered Mar 2 '14 at 2:49
stink
931
931
2
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
1
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
add a comment |Â
2
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
1
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
2
2
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
You owe them what is stated in the contract. If the contract says "25 days leaving period", behaving professionally includes honoring that. It is not ridiculous by the way. In Europe it may even be a legal minimum. You cannot just hire and fire people at will here.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 11:19
1
1
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
OP says nothing about a contract or being in Europe.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 16:52
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
He is talking about a "leaving period", where else but in a contract would that be found? And as he did not say where he is from, calling his leaving period "ridiculous" is just wrong. It may be where you are from, but this is an international site. If it's in his contract, chances are it's not ridiculous where he is from.
– nvoigt
Mar 2 '14 at 16:55
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
Employee handbook or de facto rule.
– stink
Mar 2 '14 at 17:03
add a comment |Â
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yes it is. there is a lot of legalese, but it is indeed.
– Draconar
Feb 28 '14 at 19:00
1
Point out to them that you they can;t trust you to honor your contract with them if you wil break the contract you have with your current employer
– HLGEM
Feb 28 '14 at 20:29