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How would it come across if I list some of the exceptional achievements (top grades, published articles, awards, sponsorship) despite ultimately not being able to graduate?
I had a health reason which forced me to abandon studies and I never returned.
As long as they are relevant to my job search, will they be beneficial, and will they show that, despite not graduating, I was a brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at university?
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How would it come across if I list some of the exceptional achievements (top grades, published articles, awards, sponsorship) despite ultimately not being able to graduate?
I had a health reason which forced me to abandon studies and I never returned.
As long as they are relevant to my job search, will they be beneficial, and will they show that, despite not graduating, I was a brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at university?
resume education
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Listing what you have done is certainly relevant, unless you find it to your advantage to hide altogether the fact that you attended. As far as I can see, you didn't fail, you just never finished. I never finished my PhD at Columbia Engineering either. Had I wanted to work in biotech, I would certainly have mentioned that published paper that I co-authored with one of my thesis advisers. I dropped out of the PhD program because I was sick - in my case, it was lovesickness :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Apr 27 '14 at 1:08
How far along were you when you dropped out?
– tcrosley
Apr 27 '14 at 3:40
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possible duplicate of Incomplete studies. Should it be included into resume?
– Dukeling
Apr 27 '14 at 12:02
duplicate of How to explain on CV an incomplete education, but with top grades and achievements?
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How would it come across if I list some of the exceptional achievements (top grades, published articles, awards, sponsorship) despite ultimately not being able to graduate?
I had a health reason which forced me to abandon studies and I never returned.
As long as they are relevant to my job search, will they be beneficial, and will they show that, despite not graduating, I was a brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at university?
resume education
edited Oct 3 '17 at 2:06
Dukeling
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asked Apr 26 '14 at 23:51
ZakMcSack2k
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How would it come across if I list some of the exceptional achievements (top grades, published articles, awards, sponsorship) despite ultimately not being able to graduate?
I had a health reason which forced me to abandon studies and I never returned.
As long as they are relevant to my job search, will they be beneficial, and will they show that, despite not graduating, I was a brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at university?
resume education
edited Oct 3 '17 at 2:06
Dukeling
8,69132447
asked Apr 26 '14 at 23:51
ZakMcSack2k
612
edited Oct 3 '17 at 2:06
Dukeling
8,69132447
edited Oct 3 '17 at 2:06
Dukeling
8,69132447
edited Oct 3 '17 at 2:06
Dukeling
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asked Apr 26 '14 at 23:51
ZakMcSack2k
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asked Apr 26 '14 at 23:51
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asked Apr 26 '14 at 23:51
ZakMcSack2k
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Listing what you have done is certainly relevant, unless you find it to your advantage to hide altogether the fact that you attended. As far as I can see, you didn't fail, you just never finished. I never finished my PhD at Columbia Engineering either. Had I wanted to work in biotech, I would certainly have mentioned that published paper that I co-authored with one of my thesis advisers. I dropped out of the PhD program because I was sick - in my case, it was lovesickness :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Apr 27 '14 at 1:08
How far along were you when you dropped out?
– tcrosley
Apr 27 '14 at 3:40
1
possible duplicate of Incomplete studies. Should it be included into resume?
– Dukeling
Apr 27 '14 at 12:02
duplicate of How to explain on CV an incomplete education, but with top grades and achievements?
– gnat
Apr 29 '14 at 10:56
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Listing what you have done is certainly relevant, unless you find it to your advantage to hide altogether the fact that you attended. As far as I can see, you didn't fail, you just never finished. I never finished my PhD at Columbia Engineering either. Had I wanted to work in biotech, I would certainly have mentioned that published paper that I co-authored with one of my thesis advisers. I dropped out of the PhD program because I was sick - in my case, it was lovesickness :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Apr 27 '14 at 1:08
How far along were you when you dropped out?
– tcrosley
Apr 27 '14 at 3:40
1
possible duplicate of Incomplete studies. Should it be included into resume?
– Dukeling
Apr 27 '14 at 12:02
duplicate of How to explain on CV an incomplete education, but with top grades and achievements?
– gnat
Apr 29 '14 at 10:56
Listing what you have done is certainly relevant, unless you find it to your advantage to hide altogether the fact that you attended. As far as I can see, you didn't fail, you just never finished. I never finished my PhD at Columbia Engineering either. Had I wanted to work in biotech, I would certainly have mentioned that published paper that I co-authored with one of my thesis advisers. I dropped out of the PhD program because I was sick - in my case, it was lovesickness :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Apr 27 '14 at 1:08
Listing what you have done is certainly relevant, unless you find it to your advantage to hide altogether the fact that you attended. As far as I can see, you didn't fail, you just never finished. I never finished my PhD at Columbia Engineering either. Had I wanted to work in biotech, I would certainly have mentioned that published paper that I co-authored with one of my thesis advisers. I dropped out of the PhD program because I was sick - in my case, it was lovesickness :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Apr 27 '14 at 1:08
How far along were you when you dropped out?
– tcrosley
Apr 27 '14 at 3:40
How far along were you when you dropped out?
– tcrosley
Apr 27 '14 at 3:40
1
1
possible duplicate of Incomplete studies. Should it be included into resume?
– Dukeling
Apr 27 '14 at 12:02
possible duplicate of Incomplete studies. Should it be included into resume?
– Dukeling
Apr 27 '14 at 12:02
duplicate of How to explain on CV an incomplete education, but with top grades and achievements?
– gnat
Apr 29 '14 at 10:56
duplicate of How to explain on CV an incomplete education, but with top grades and achievements?
– gnat
Apr 29 '14 at 10:56
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As long as they are relevant to my job search, won't they be
beneficial, and won't they show that despite not graduating I was a
brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at
university?
Indicating your achievements may indeed indicate that you were a brilliant student and proactive in your field.
They may also call attention to the fact that you dropped out.
You need to weigh the benefits against the negatives.
If you feel that your achievements during your schooling make you much more valuable as a candidate, then include them. If you don't feel that they would add significant value, then you may wish to downplay your shortened schooling (and thus lack of graduation).
Remember that some industries/jobs value academic awards and some don't. I suspect that those employers who would place a high value on achievements during schooling, would also place a very high value on graduation, so it's rather a mixed bag.
Sometimes good grades and achievements in school translate into achievements in the workplace, but sometimes they don't. If you have real work experience, many potential employers will value that far more than anything that did or didn't happen in school.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
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You should absolutely include your achievements.
I dropped out of a software engineering program. In my CV, I included my achievements, awards, competitions, etc. as well as my incomplete degree, and over the years I've gotten job offers from Goldman Sachs, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other places, some of which I accepted.
The achievements have definitely been helpful, as they are often what employers ask me about first. A few years ago, they used to ask why I never finished my degree, but nowadays they just ask about my recent work experience.
Regarding what to actually put in your CV, I've had success with the following variations:
- Write "B.Sc. ([year] - [year]) University of XXX (interrupted for xyz)" near the end of the CV, after achievements and after work experience
- Talk to your university, get a certificate for whatever courses you passed, and include that in your CV. I got an Associate's degree since I had passed more than half the courses, and therefore I was able to write "A.Sc." in my CV. Nobody knows what that is; some will ask, some will just assume it's a 4-year course. It doesn't really matter in the end.
To a certain extent (which varies based on which sector you're in) if you can demonstrate in an interview that you can actually do the job, they will hire you. For medicine, you should really have a degree. For software development, the degree is mostly inconsequential, especially if you have some work experience. However, you should include some sort of degree in your CV, because often there is a nontechnical HR person (or even a software program) screening the CV's who doesn't understand any of your skills and will automatically reject anyone who doesn't have a degree listed on the CV (as well as any other keywords they've been told to look for).
I will say however, that if you can go back and finish in 1-2 years, it's probably worth your while as you will likely have better opportunities.
answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
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Do you feel comfortable discussing basics of what happened with your degree program an interview if asked?
If you can explain, as you did here, why you chose not to return in a way that doesn't sound like you dropped out out of laziness or some other poor self-attribute, include those achievements.
As you describe them as exceptional achievements, they may be worth including, and could work well toward a positive overall impression.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
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3 Answers
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As long as they are relevant to my job search, won't they be
beneficial, and won't they show that despite not graduating I was a
brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at
university?
Indicating your achievements may indeed indicate that you were a brilliant student and proactive in your field.
They may also call attention to the fact that you dropped out.
You need to weigh the benefits against the negatives.
If you feel that your achievements during your schooling make you much more valuable as a candidate, then include them. If you don't feel that they would add significant value, then you may wish to downplay your shortened schooling (and thus lack of graduation).
Remember that some industries/jobs value academic awards and some don't. I suspect that those employers who would place a high value on achievements during schooling, would also place a very high value on graduation, so it's rather a mixed bag.
Sometimes good grades and achievements in school translate into achievements in the workplace, but sometimes they don't. If you have real work experience, many potential employers will value that far more than anything that did or didn't happen in school.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
224k107660930
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up vote
2
down vote
As long as they are relevant to my job search, won't they be
beneficial, and won't they show that despite not graduating I was a
brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at
university?
Indicating your achievements may indeed indicate that you were a brilliant student and proactive in your field.
They may also call attention to the fact that you dropped out.
You need to weigh the benefits against the negatives.
If you feel that your achievements during your schooling make you much more valuable as a candidate, then include them. If you don't feel that they would add significant value, then you may wish to downplay your shortened schooling (and thus lack of graduation).
Remember that some industries/jobs value academic awards and some don't. I suspect that those employers who would place a high value on achievements during schooling, would also place a very high value on graduation, so it's rather a mixed bag.
Sometimes good grades and achievements in school translate into achievements in the workplace, but sometimes they don't. If you have real work experience, many potential employers will value that far more than anything that did or didn't happen in school.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
224k107660930
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up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
As long as they are relevant to my job search, won't they be
beneficial, and won't they show that despite not graduating I was a
brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at
university?
Indicating your achievements may indeed indicate that you were a brilliant student and proactive in your field.
They may also call attention to the fact that you dropped out.
You need to weigh the benefits against the negatives.
If you feel that your achievements during your schooling make you much more valuable as a candidate, then include them. If you don't feel that they would add significant value, then you may wish to downplay your shortened schooling (and thus lack of graduation).
Remember that some industries/jobs value academic awards and some don't. I suspect that those employers who would place a high value on achievements during schooling, would also place a very high value on graduation, so it's rather a mixed bag.
Sometimes good grades and achievements in school translate into achievements in the workplace, but sometimes they don't. If you have real work experience, many potential employers will value that far more than anything that did or didn't happen in school.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
224k107660930
As long as they are relevant to my job search, won't they be
beneficial, and won't they show that despite not graduating I was a
brilliant student, and proactively contributed to the field while at
university?
Indicating your achievements may indeed indicate that you were a brilliant student and proactive in your field.
They may also call attention to the fact that you dropped out.
You need to weigh the benefits against the negatives.
If you feel that your achievements during your schooling make you much more valuable as a candidate, then include them. If you don't feel that they would add significant value, then you may wish to downplay your shortened schooling (and thus lack of graduation).
Remember that some industries/jobs value academic awards and some don't. I suspect that those employers who would place a high value on achievements during schooling, would also place a very high value on graduation, so it's rather a mixed bag.
Sometimes good grades and achievements in school translate into achievements in the workplace, but sometimes they don't. If you have real work experience, many potential employers will value that far more than anything that did or didn't happen in school.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
224k107660930
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
224k107660930
answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
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answered Apr 27 '14 at 12:24
Joe Strazzere
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You should absolutely include your achievements.
I dropped out of a software engineering program. In my CV, I included my achievements, awards, competitions, etc. as well as my incomplete degree, and over the years I've gotten job offers from Goldman Sachs, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other places, some of which I accepted.
The achievements have definitely been helpful, as they are often what employers ask me about first. A few years ago, they used to ask why I never finished my degree, but nowadays they just ask about my recent work experience.
Regarding what to actually put in your CV, I've had success with the following variations:
- Write "B.Sc. ([year] - [year]) University of XXX (interrupted for xyz)" near the end of the CV, after achievements and after work experience
- Talk to your university, get a certificate for whatever courses you passed, and include that in your CV. I got an Associate's degree since I had passed more than half the courses, and therefore I was able to write "A.Sc." in my CV. Nobody knows what that is; some will ask, some will just assume it's a 4-year course. It doesn't really matter in the end.
To a certain extent (which varies based on which sector you're in) if you can demonstrate in an interview that you can actually do the job, they will hire you. For medicine, you should really have a degree. For software development, the degree is mostly inconsequential, especially if you have some work experience. However, you should include some sort of degree in your CV, because often there is a nontechnical HR person (or even a software program) screening the CV's who doesn't understand any of your skills and will automatically reject anyone who doesn't have a degree listed on the CV (as well as any other keywords they've been told to look for).
I will say however, that if you can go back and finish in 1-2 years, it's probably worth your while as you will likely have better opportunities.
answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
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You should absolutely include your achievements.
I dropped out of a software engineering program. In my CV, I included my achievements, awards, competitions, etc. as well as my incomplete degree, and over the years I've gotten job offers from Goldman Sachs, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other places, some of which I accepted.
The achievements have definitely been helpful, as they are often what employers ask me about first. A few years ago, they used to ask why I never finished my degree, but nowadays they just ask about my recent work experience.
Regarding what to actually put in your CV, I've had success with the following variations:
- Write "B.Sc. ([year] - [year]) University of XXX (interrupted for xyz)" near the end of the CV, after achievements and after work experience
- Talk to your university, get a certificate for whatever courses you passed, and include that in your CV. I got an Associate's degree since I had passed more than half the courses, and therefore I was able to write "A.Sc." in my CV. Nobody knows what that is; some will ask, some will just assume it's a 4-year course. It doesn't really matter in the end.
To a certain extent (which varies based on which sector you're in) if you can demonstrate in an interview that you can actually do the job, they will hire you. For medicine, you should really have a degree. For software development, the degree is mostly inconsequential, especially if you have some work experience. However, you should include some sort of degree in your CV, because often there is a nontechnical HR person (or even a software program) screening the CV's who doesn't understand any of your skills and will automatically reject anyone who doesn't have a degree listed on the CV (as well as any other keywords they've been told to look for).
I will say however, that if you can go back and finish in 1-2 years, it's probably worth your while as you will likely have better opportunities.
answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
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You should absolutely include your achievements.
I dropped out of a software engineering program. In my CV, I included my achievements, awards, competitions, etc. as well as my incomplete degree, and over the years I've gotten job offers from Goldman Sachs, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other places, some of which I accepted.
The achievements have definitely been helpful, as they are often what employers ask me about first. A few years ago, they used to ask why I never finished my degree, but nowadays they just ask about my recent work experience.
Regarding what to actually put in your CV, I've had success with the following variations:
- Write "B.Sc. ([year] - [year]) University of XXX (interrupted for xyz)" near the end of the CV, after achievements and after work experience
- Talk to your university, get a certificate for whatever courses you passed, and include that in your CV. I got an Associate's degree since I had passed more than half the courses, and therefore I was able to write "A.Sc." in my CV. Nobody knows what that is; some will ask, some will just assume it's a 4-year course. It doesn't really matter in the end.
To a certain extent (which varies based on which sector you're in) if you can demonstrate in an interview that you can actually do the job, they will hire you. For medicine, you should really have a degree. For software development, the degree is mostly inconsequential, especially if you have some work experience. However, you should include some sort of degree in your CV, because often there is a nontechnical HR person (or even a software program) screening the CV's who doesn't understand any of your skills and will automatically reject anyone who doesn't have a degree listed on the CV (as well as any other keywords they've been told to look for).
I will say however, that if you can go back and finish in 1-2 years, it's probably worth your while as you will likely have better opportunities.
answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
CaptainCodeman
4,85452132
You should absolutely include your achievements.
I dropped out of a software engineering program. In my CV, I included my achievements, awards, competitions, etc. as well as my incomplete degree, and over the years I've gotten job offers from Goldman Sachs, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other places, some of which I accepted.
The achievements have definitely been helpful, as they are often what employers ask me about first. A few years ago, they used to ask why I never finished my degree, but nowadays they just ask about my recent work experience.
Regarding what to actually put in your CV, I've had success with the following variations:
- Write "B.Sc. ([year] - [year]) University of XXX (interrupted for xyz)" near the end of the CV, after achievements and after work experience
- Talk to your university, get a certificate for whatever courses you passed, and include that in your CV. I got an Associate's degree since I had passed more than half the courses, and therefore I was able to write "A.Sc." in my CV. Nobody knows what that is; some will ask, some will just assume it's a 4-year course. It doesn't really matter in the end.
To a certain extent (which varies based on which sector you're in) if you can demonstrate in an interview that you can actually do the job, they will hire you. For medicine, you should really have a degree. For software development, the degree is mostly inconsequential, especially if you have some work experience. However, you should include some sort of degree in your CV, because often there is a nontechnical HR person (or even a software program) screening the CV's who doesn't understand any of your skills and will automatically reject anyone who doesn't have a degree listed on the CV (as well as any other keywords they've been told to look for).
I will say however, that if you can go back and finish in 1-2 years, it's probably worth your while as you will likely have better opportunities.
answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
CaptainCodeman
4,85452132
answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
CaptainCodeman
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answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
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answered Apr 29 '14 at 10:46
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Do you feel comfortable discussing basics of what happened with your degree program an interview if asked?
If you can explain, as you did here, why you chose not to return in a way that doesn't sound like you dropped out out of laziness or some other poor self-attribute, include those achievements.
As you describe them as exceptional achievements, they may be worth including, and could work well toward a positive overall impression.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
Jessica Brown
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up vote
-1
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Do you feel comfortable discussing basics of what happened with your degree program an interview if asked?
If you can explain, as you did here, why you chose not to return in a way that doesn't sound like you dropped out out of laziness or some other poor self-attribute, include those achievements.
As you describe them as exceptional achievements, they may be worth including, and could work well toward a positive overall impression.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
Jessica Brown
1,4531222
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up vote
-1
down vote
up vote
-1
down vote
Do you feel comfortable discussing basics of what happened with your degree program an interview if asked?
If you can explain, as you did here, why you chose not to return in a way that doesn't sound like you dropped out out of laziness or some other poor self-attribute, include those achievements.
As you describe them as exceptional achievements, they may be worth including, and could work well toward a positive overall impression.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
Jessica Brown
1,4531222
Do you feel comfortable discussing basics of what happened with your degree program an interview if asked?
If you can explain, as you did here, why you chose not to return in a way that doesn't sound like you dropped out out of laziness or some other poor self-attribute, include those achievements.
As you describe them as exceptional achievements, they may be worth including, and could work well toward a positive overall impression.
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
Jessica Brown
1,4531222
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
Jessica Brown
1,4531222
answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
Jessica Brown
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answered Apr 27 '14 at 5:58
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Listing what you have done is certainly relevant, unless you find it to your advantage to hide altogether the fact that you attended. As far as I can see, you didn't fail, you just never finished. I never finished my PhD at Columbia Engineering either. Had I wanted to work in biotech, I would certainly have mentioned that published paper that I co-authored with one of my thesis advisers. I dropped out of the PhD program because I was sick - in my case, it was lovesickness :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Apr 27 '14 at 1:08
How far along were you when you dropped out?
– tcrosley
Apr 27 '14 at 3:40
1
possible duplicate of Incomplete studies. Should it be included into resume?
– Dukeling
Apr 27 '14 at 12:02
duplicate of How to explain on CV an incomplete education, but with top grades and achievements?
– gnat
Apr 29 '14 at 10:56