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Have been at my job for 3.5 years, started as an intern doing 2 days a week doing minor tasks.(work in IT, support team). on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or leave of any kind



As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him and naturally I took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits.



3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME. I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of any kind.



My contract has NO job description and I feel my company owes me thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide whether I am casual or full/part time....



The problem is that when everything is fine, I'm just the support guy, but when things go wrong.. I'm suddenly the IT manager who knows what to do and can save the day







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    "naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits" - Why?
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:23










  • i was a student at the time, i would take anything to have more experience..a flexible IT role so you can study is rarer than a unicorn
    – user3766275
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:25






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    This sounds a little ranty. And from your description and comment, you apparently accepted the situation (increased responsibility) in order to gain experience. Your degree will be done soon, so at that point you will be in a good position to move on to something better if desired.
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:51






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    A) We don't do personal advice, we answer practical questions. B) The language you use is inappropriate for this site. C) If you feel you're not being paid what you're worth you need to make your case for a raise, one won't appear like manna from heaven. D) When you take on a new role you should negotiate a raise. E) Questions should specify the location (I'm assuming Australia from your mention of penalty rates). F) "Please help me" is not a question.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jul 11 '16 at 7:52







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    New hires being paid more than experienced workers ... is something that happens as job markets change. Don't be offended by it; do work with your manager to understand what they need (and don't need) to see from you to justify your own next raise.
    – keshlam
    Jul 11 '16 at 12:09
















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Have been at my job for 3.5 years, started as an intern doing 2 days a week doing minor tasks.(work in IT, support team). on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or leave of any kind



As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him and naturally I took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits.



3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME. I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of any kind.



My contract has NO job description and I feel my company owes me thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide whether I am casual or full/part time....



The problem is that when everything is fine, I'm just the support guy, but when things go wrong.. I'm suddenly the IT manager who knows what to do and can save the day







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closed as off-topic by Lilienthal♦, Jim G., gnat, paparazzo, Richard U Jul 11 '16 at 12:44


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Jim G., gnat, paparazzo, Richard U
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.








  • 1




    "naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits" - Why?
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:23










  • i was a student at the time, i would take anything to have more experience..a flexible IT role so you can study is rarer than a unicorn
    – user3766275
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:25






  • 2




    This sounds a little ranty. And from your description and comment, you apparently accepted the situation (increased responsibility) in order to gain experience. Your degree will be done soon, so at that point you will be in a good position to move on to something better if desired.
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:51






  • 1




    A) We don't do personal advice, we answer practical questions. B) The language you use is inappropriate for this site. C) If you feel you're not being paid what you're worth you need to make your case for a raise, one won't appear like manna from heaven. D) When you take on a new role you should negotiate a raise. E) Questions should specify the location (I'm assuming Australia from your mention of penalty rates). F) "Please help me" is not a question.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jul 11 '16 at 7:52







  • 1




    New hires being paid more than experienced workers ... is something that happens as job markets change. Don't be offended by it; do work with your manager to understand what they need (and don't need) to see from you to justify your own next raise.
    – keshlam
    Jul 11 '16 at 12:09












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up vote
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Have been at my job for 3.5 years, started as an intern doing 2 days a week doing minor tasks.(work in IT, support team). on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or leave of any kind



As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him and naturally I took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits.



3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME. I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of any kind.



My contract has NO job description and I feel my company owes me thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide whether I am casual or full/part time....



The problem is that when everything is fine, I'm just the support guy, but when things go wrong.. I'm suddenly the IT manager who knows what to do and can save the day







share|improve this question













Have been at my job for 3.5 years, started as an intern doing 2 days a week doing minor tasks.(work in IT, support team). on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or leave of any kind



As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him and naturally I took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits.



3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME. I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of any kind.



My contract has NO job description and I feel my company owes me thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide whether I am casual or full/part time....



The problem is that when everything is fine, I'm just the support guy, but when things go wrong.. I'm suddenly the IT manager who knows what to do and can save the day









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closed as off-topic by Lilienthal♦, Jim G., gnat, paparazzo, Richard U Jul 11 '16 at 12:44


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  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Jim G., gnat, paparazzo, Richard U
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closed as off-topic by Lilienthal♦, Jim G., gnat, paparazzo, Richard U Jul 11 '16 at 12:44


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  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – Jim G., gnat, paparazzo, Richard U
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.







  • 1




    "naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits" - Why?
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:23










  • i was a student at the time, i would take anything to have more experience..a flexible IT role so you can study is rarer than a unicorn
    – user3766275
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:25






  • 2




    This sounds a little ranty. And from your description and comment, you apparently accepted the situation (increased responsibility) in order to gain experience. Your degree will be done soon, so at that point you will be in a good position to move on to something better if desired.
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:51






  • 1




    A) We don't do personal advice, we answer practical questions. B) The language you use is inappropriate for this site. C) If you feel you're not being paid what you're worth you need to make your case for a raise, one won't appear like manna from heaven. D) When you take on a new role you should negotiate a raise. E) Questions should specify the location (I'm assuming Australia from your mention of penalty rates). F) "Please help me" is not a question.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jul 11 '16 at 7:52







  • 1




    New hires being paid more than experienced workers ... is something that happens as job markets change. Don't be offended by it; do work with your manager to understand what they need (and don't need) to see from you to justify your own next raise.
    – keshlam
    Jul 11 '16 at 12:09












  • 1




    "naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits" - Why?
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:23










  • i was a student at the time, i would take anything to have more experience..a flexible IT role so you can study is rarer than a unicorn
    – user3766275
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:25






  • 2




    This sounds a little ranty. And from your description and comment, you apparently accepted the situation (increased responsibility) in order to gain experience. Your degree will be done soon, so at that point you will be in a good position to move on to something better if desired.
    – Brandin
    Jul 11 '16 at 6:51






  • 1




    A) We don't do personal advice, we answer practical questions. B) The language you use is inappropriate for this site. C) If you feel you're not being paid what you're worth you need to make your case for a raise, one won't appear like manna from heaven. D) When you take on a new role you should negotiate a raise. E) Questions should specify the location (I'm assuming Australia from your mention of penalty rates). F) "Please help me" is not a question.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jul 11 '16 at 7:52







  • 1




    New hires being paid more than experienced workers ... is something that happens as job markets change. Don't be offended by it; do work with your manager to understand what they need (and don't need) to see from you to justify your own next raise.
    – keshlam
    Jul 11 '16 at 12:09







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1




"naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits" - Why?
– Brandin
Jul 11 '16 at 6:23




"naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise, up-title or benefits" - Why?
– Brandin
Jul 11 '16 at 6:23












i was a student at the time, i would take anything to have more experience..a flexible IT role so you can study is rarer than a unicorn
– user3766275
Jul 11 '16 at 6:25




i was a student at the time, i would take anything to have more experience..a flexible IT role so you can study is rarer than a unicorn
– user3766275
Jul 11 '16 at 6:25




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This sounds a little ranty. And from your description and comment, you apparently accepted the situation (increased responsibility) in order to gain experience. Your degree will be done soon, so at that point you will be in a good position to move on to something better if desired.
– Brandin
Jul 11 '16 at 6:51




This sounds a little ranty. And from your description and comment, you apparently accepted the situation (increased responsibility) in order to gain experience. Your degree will be done soon, so at that point you will be in a good position to move on to something better if desired.
– Brandin
Jul 11 '16 at 6:51




1




1




A) We don't do personal advice, we answer practical questions. B) The language you use is inappropriate for this site. C) If you feel you're not being paid what you're worth you need to make your case for a raise, one won't appear like manna from heaven. D) When you take on a new role you should negotiate a raise. E) Questions should specify the location (I'm assuming Australia from your mention of penalty rates). F) "Please help me" is not a question.
– Lilienthal♦
Jul 11 '16 at 7:52





A) We don't do personal advice, we answer practical questions. B) The language you use is inappropriate for this site. C) If you feel you're not being paid what you're worth you need to make your case for a raise, one won't appear like manna from heaven. D) When you take on a new role you should negotiate a raise. E) Questions should specify the location (I'm assuming Australia from your mention of penalty rates). F) "Please help me" is not a question.
– Lilienthal♦
Jul 11 '16 at 7:52





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New hires being paid more than experienced workers ... is something that happens as job markets change. Don't be offended by it; do work with your manager to understand what they need (and don't need) to see from you to justify your own next raise.
– keshlam
Jul 11 '16 at 12:09




New hires being paid more than experienced workers ... is something that happens as job markets change. Don't be offended by it; do work with your manager to understand what they need (and don't need) to see from you to justify your own next raise.
– keshlam
Jul 11 '16 at 12:09










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on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or
leave of any kind




You should probably try to get that amended. Sadly, your only bargaining power in this situation is threatening to leave if they don't, which can be a career limiting move.




As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is
great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him
and naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise,
up-title or benefits.




You should have never done that. Always demand a clear definition of all your job duties and a fair compensation BEFORE you start doing it.




3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME.




As brutal as this sounds, but thats in the best interest of the company. You've been not very thorough with trying to negotiate a fair salary, and it is in their interest to pay you as little as possible.




I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never
gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of
any kind.




Again, thats unfortunate, but thats something you have to negotiate (If there is no laws setting minimums for this)




My contract has NO job description and i feel my company owes me
thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide
whether i am casual or full/part time....




What you feel and what is legally required are most likely two different things. The only person who can help you find out the latter is a lawyer. I suggest you consult one.




Can someone please help me? unions dont want to tell me anything
unless i pay them, but what im being payed is so shit that i cant
justify their defence




We don't have your contract, and we're not employment lawyers. What you need is an employment lawyer. But if you're in the US, chances are what they're doing is legal and your only recourse is to demand they change it and quit if they don't.






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The following solution is not always available, depending on your situation (job market, etc.), but if it is available, I find it works absolutely flawlessly.



Go to as many interviews as you can, even if the job offer does not sound particularly interesting at first. This will give you the following:



  1. A clear understanding of your market value (it's called job market for a reason)

  2. A so-called BATNA for salary/workload negotiations (educate yourself about it, this is extremely important!)

  3. Some alternatives, so you feel secure in your decisions

  4. An insight into other companies and teams, etc., so you can better evaluate your current position

  5. Improve your interview skills, to ensure you can grab you dream job in the future and handle being the interviewer in the future

You need to continue doing this until you get at least one good offer, preferably several (depends on job market). After that, fully armed with knowledge, you can start salary discussions with your manager. Or maybe you'll like some offer so much, that it won't even be a discussion.



However, it might happen that you don't get any offers - it means you first need to improve yourself. In that case checking what kind of interview questions you were getting (especially those you couldn't answer well) is a good first step into identifying what the companies want and improving in those things.






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    on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or
    leave of any kind




    You should probably try to get that amended. Sadly, your only bargaining power in this situation is threatening to leave if they don't, which can be a career limiting move.




    As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is
    great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him
    and naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise,
    up-title or benefits.




    You should have never done that. Always demand a clear definition of all your job duties and a fair compensation BEFORE you start doing it.




    3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME.




    As brutal as this sounds, but thats in the best interest of the company. You've been not very thorough with trying to negotiate a fair salary, and it is in their interest to pay you as little as possible.




    I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never
    gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of
    any kind.




    Again, thats unfortunate, but thats something you have to negotiate (If there is no laws setting minimums for this)




    My contract has NO job description and i feel my company owes me
    thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide
    whether i am casual or full/part time....




    What you feel and what is legally required are most likely two different things. The only person who can help you find out the latter is a lawyer. I suggest you consult one.




    Can someone please help me? unions dont want to tell me anything
    unless i pay them, but what im being payed is so shit that i cant
    justify their defence




    We don't have your contract, and we're not employment lawyers. What you need is an employment lawyer. But if you're in the US, chances are what they're doing is legal and your only recourse is to demand they change it and quit if they don't.






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    • Very high-quality answer. Thumbs up.
      – Sidius
      Jul 11 '16 at 12:43














    up vote
    6
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    on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or
    leave of any kind




    You should probably try to get that amended. Sadly, your only bargaining power in this situation is threatening to leave if they don't, which can be a career limiting move.




    As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is
    great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him
    and naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise,
    up-title or benefits.




    You should have never done that. Always demand a clear definition of all your job duties and a fair compensation BEFORE you start doing it.




    3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME.




    As brutal as this sounds, but thats in the best interest of the company. You've been not very thorough with trying to negotiate a fair salary, and it is in their interest to pay you as little as possible.




    I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never
    gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of
    any kind.




    Again, thats unfortunate, but thats something you have to negotiate (If there is no laws setting minimums for this)




    My contract has NO job description and i feel my company owes me
    thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide
    whether i am casual or full/part time....




    What you feel and what is legally required are most likely two different things. The only person who can help you find out the latter is a lawyer. I suggest you consult one.




    Can someone please help me? unions dont want to tell me anything
    unless i pay them, but what im being payed is so shit that i cant
    justify their defence




    We don't have your contract, and we're not employment lawyers. What you need is an employment lawyer. But if you're in the US, chances are what they're doing is legal and your only recourse is to demand they change it and quit if they don't.






    share|improve this answer





















    • Very high-quality answer. Thumbs up.
      – Sidius
      Jul 11 '16 at 12:43












    up vote
    6
    down vote










    up vote
    6
    down vote










    on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or
    leave of any kind




    You should probably try to get that amended. Sadly, your only bargaining power in this situation is threatening to leave if they don't, which can be a career limiting move.




    As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is
    great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him
    and naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise,
    up-title or benefits.




    You should have never done that. Always demand a clear definition of all your job duties and a fair compensation BEFORE you start doing it.




    3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME.




    As brutal as this sounds, but thats in the best interest of the company. You've been not very thorough with trying to negotiate a fair salary, and it is in their interest to pay you as little as possible.




    I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never
    gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of
    any kind.




    Again, thats unfortunate, but thats something you have to negotiate (If there is no laws setting minimums for this)




    My contract has NO job description and i feel my company owes me
    thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide
    whether i am casual or full/part time....




    What you feel and what is legally required are most likely two different things. The only person who can help you find out the latter is a lawyer. I suggest you consult one.




    Can someone please help me? unions dont want to tell me anything
    unless i pay them, but what im being payed is so shit that i cant
    justify their defence




    We don't have your contract, and we're not employment lawyers. What you need is an employment lawyer. But if you're in the US, chances are what they're doing is legal and your only recourse is to demand they change it and quit if they don't.






    share|improve this answer














    on a contract with NO job description or mention of penalty rates or
    leave of any kind




    You should probably try to get that amended. Sadly, your only bargaining power in this situation is threatening to leave if they don't, which can be a career limiting move.




    As time goes on, my tasks and duties increase dramatically which is
    great. At the 2 year mark my IT manager left. They NEVER replaced him
    and naturally i took on his role as well as mine....with no pay rise,
    up-title or benefits.




    You should have never done that. Always demand a clear definition of all your job duties and a fair compensation BEFORE you start doing it.




    3.5 years down the track i now run the entire support team, supervise a level 1 person who is BEING PAID MORE THAN ME.




    As brutal as this sounds, but thats in the best interest of the company. You've been not very thorough with trying to negotiate a fair salary, and it is in their interest to pay you as little as possible.




    I do regular overtime, weekend and public holiday work and never
    gotten penalty rates. I also have never received a cent in leave of
    any kind.




    Again, thats unfortunate, but thats something you have to negotiate (If there is no laws setting minimums for this)




    My contract has NO job description and i feel my company owes me
    thousands in either leave or penalty rates....as they cannot decide
    whether i am casual or full/part time....




    What you feel and what is legally required are most likely two different things. The only person who can help you find out the latter is a lawyer. I suggest you consult one.




    Can someone please help me? unions dont want to tell me anything
    unless i pay them, but what im being payed is so shit that i cant
    justify their defence




    We don't have your contract, and we're not employment lawyers. What you need is an employment lawyer. But if you're in the US, chances are what they're doing is legal and your only recourse is to demand they change it and quit if they don't.







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    • Very high-quality answer. Thumbs up.
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      Jul 11 '16 at 12:43
















    • Very high-quality answer. Thumbs up.
      – Sidius
      Jul 11 '16 at 12:43















    Very high-quality answer. Thumbs up.
    – Sidius
    Jul 11 '16 at 12:43




    Very high-quality answer. Thumbs up.
    – Sidius
    Jul 11 '16 at 12:43












    up vote
    2
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    The following solution is not always available, depending on your situation (job market, etc.), but if it is available, I find it works absolutely flawlessly.



    Go to as many interviews as you can, even if the job offer does not sound particularly interesting at first. This will give you the following:



    1. A clear understanding of your market value (it's called job market for a reason)

    2. A so-called BATNA for salary/workload negotiations (educate yourself about it, this is extremely important!)

    3. Some alternatives, so you feel secure in your decisions

    4. An insight into other companies and teams, etc., so you can better evaluate your current position

    5. Improve your interview skills, to ensure you can grab you dream job in the future and handle being the interviewer in the future

    You need to continue doing this until you get at least one good offer, preferably several (depends on job market). After that, fully armed with knowledge, you can start salary discussions with your manager. Or maybe you'll like some offer so much, that it won't even be a discussion.



    However, it might happen that you don't get any offers - it means you first need to improve yourself. In that case checking what kind of interview questions you were getting (especially those you couldn't answer well) is a good first step into identifying what the companies want and improving in those things.






    share|improve this answer

























      up vote
      2
      down vote













      The following solution is not always available, depending on your situation (job market, etc.), but if it is available, I find it works absolutely flawlessly.



      Go to as many interviews as you can, even if the job offer does not sound particularly interesting at first. This will give you the following:



      1. A clear understanding of your market value (it's called job market for a reason)

      2. A so-called BATNA for salary/workload negotiations (educate yourself about it, this is extremely important!)

      3. Some alternatives, so you feel secure in your decisions

      4. An insight into other companies and teams, etc., so you can better evaluate your current position

      5. Improve your interview skills, to ensure you can grab you dream job in the future and handle being the interviewer in the future

      You need to continue doing this until you get at least one good offer, preferably several (depends on job market). After that, fully armed with knowledge, you can start salary discussions with your manager. Or maybe you'll like some offer so much, that it won't even be a discussion.



      However, it might happen that you don't get any offers - it means you first need to improve yourself. In that case checking what kind of interview questions you were getting (especially those you couldn't answer well) is a good first step into identifying what the companies want and improving in those things.






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        The following solution is not always available, depending on your situation (job market, etc.), but if it is available, I find it works absolutely flawlessly.



        Go to as many interviews as you can, even if the job offer does not sound particularly interesting at first. This will give you the following:



        1. A clear understanding of your market value (it's called job market for a reason)

        2. A so-called BATNA for salary/workload negotiations (educate yourself about it, this is extremely important!)

        3. Some alternatives, so you feel secure in your decisions

        4. An insight into other companies and teams, etc., so you can better evaluate your current position

        5. Improve your interview skills, to ensure you can grab you dream job in the future and handle being the interviewer in the future

        You need to continue doing this until you get at least one good offer, preferably several (depends on job market). After that, fully armed with knowledge, you can start salary discussions with your manager. Or maybe you'll like some offer so much, that it won't even be a discussion.



        However, it might happen that you don't get any offers - it means you first need to improve yourself. In that case checking what kind of interview questions you were getting (especially those you couldn't answer well) is a good first step into identifying what the companies want and improving in those things.






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        The following solution is not always available, depending on your situation (job market, etc.), but if it is available, I find it works absolutely flawlessly.



        Go to as many interviews as you can, even if the job offer does not sound particularly interesting at first. This will give you the following:



        1. A clear understanding of your market value (it's called job market for a reason)

        2. A so-called BATNA for salary/workload negotiations (educate yourself about it, this is extremely important!)

        3. Some alternatives, so you feel secure in your decisions

        4. An insight into other companies and teams, etc., so you can better evaluate your current position

        5. Improve your interview skills, to ensure you can grab you dream job in the future and handle being the interviewer in the future

        You need to continue doing this until you get at least one good offer, preferably several (depends on job market). After that, fully armed with knowledge, you can start salary discussions with your manager. Or maybe you'll like some offer so much, that it won't even be a discussion.



        However, it might happen that you don't get any offers - it means you first need to improve yourself. In that case checking what kind of interview questions you were getting (especially those you couldn't answer well) is a good first step into identifying what the companies want and improving in those things.







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        answered Jul 11 '16 at 11:15









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