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After I ate a peanut butter sandwich, the secretary sent an e-mail stating there is a person who is allergic to nuts and if using peanut butter clean any surfaces (including the fridge and counters) and the jar. First of all, I didn't want a medical emergency and was able to figure out who the person was and had a word with him. What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied, “It could kill me” (he was partly joking when he said it like that, he has a sarcastic sense of humor).

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the individual?

I found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”? I guess they meant when you throw it in the garbage can.

In response to the comment, this is my first week, but does it matter?

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  Bringing peanut butter to work could kill your co-worker so why do you have to ask anyone what you should do? Peanuts and tree nuts are not part of the same family. Being allergic to one does not mean you are allergic to the other. Actually, peas are part of the peanut family, so if you are allergic to peanuts you'll likely be allergic to peas. If you need some sort of nut then ask your co-worker about tree nuts. Tree nut allergies tend not to be triggered as easily as peanut allergies which are easily triggered through contact or smell. Most tree nut allergy emergencies are from eating them.
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  "found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”" I imagine they want you to make sure the outside of the jar doesn't have peanut butter on it, to reduce the risk of peanut butter contaminating other surfaces the jar comes into contact with. Some people leave food residue on the external surfaces of food containers.
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After I ate a peanut butter sandwich, the secretary sent an e-mail stating there is a person who is allergic to nuts and if using peanut butter clean any surfaces (including the fridge and counters) and the jar. First of all, I didn't want a medical emergency and was able to figure out who the person was and had a word with him. What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied, “It could kill me” (he was partly joking when he said it like that, he has a sarcastic sense of humor).

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the individual?

I found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”? I guess they meant when you throw it in the garbage can.

In response to the comment, this is my first week, but does it matter?

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  Bringing peanut butter to work could kill your co-worker so why do you have to ask anyone what you should do? Peanuts and tree nuts are not part of the same family. Being allergic to one does not mean you are allergic to the other. Actually, peas are part of the peanut family, so if you are allergic to peanuts you'll likely be allergic to peas. If you need some sort of nut then ask your co-worker about tree nuts. Tree nut allergies tend not to be triggered as easily as peanut allergies which are easily triggered through contact or smell. Most tree nut allergy emergencies are from eating them.
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After I ate a peanut butter sandwich, the secretary sent an e-mail stating there is a person who is allergic to nuts and if using peanut butter clean any surfaces (including the fridge and counters) and the jar. First of all, I didn't want a medical emergency and was able to figure out who the person was and had a word with him. What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied, “It could kill me” (he was partly joking when he said it like that, he has a sarcastic sense of humor).

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the individual?

I found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”? I guess they meant when you throw it in the garbage can.

In response to the comment, this is my first week, but does it matter?

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After I ate a peanut butter sandwich, the secretary sent an e-mail stating there is a person who is allergic to nuts and if using peanut butter clean any surfaces (including the fridge and counters) and the jar. First of all, I didn't want a medical emergency and was able to figure out who the person was and had a word with him. What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied, “It could kill me” (he was partly joking when he said it like that, he has a sarcastic sense of humor).

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the individual?

I found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”? I guess they meant when you throw it in the garbage can.

In response to the comment, this is my first week, but does it matter?

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  Bringing peanut butter to work could kill your co-worker so why do you have to ask anyone what you should do? Peanuts and tree nuts are not part of the same family. Being allergic to one does not mean you are allergic to the other. Actually, peas are part of the peanut family, so if you are allergic to peanuts you'll likely be allergic to peas. If you need some sort of nut then ask your co-worker about tree nuts. Tree nut allergies tend not to be triggered as easily as peanut allergies which are easily triggered through contact or smell. Most tree nut allergy emergencies are from eating them.
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  "found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”" I imagine they want you to make sure the outside of the jar doesn't have peanut butter on it, to reduce the risk of peanut butter contaminating other surfaces the jar comes into contact with. Some people leave food residue on the external surfaces of food containers.
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  Bringing peanut butter to work could kill your co-worker so why do you have to ask anyone what you should do? Peanuts and tree nuts are not part of the same family. Being allergic to one does not mean you are allergic to the other. Actually, peas are part of the peanut family, so if you are allergic to peanuts you'll likely be allergic to peas. If you need some sort of nut then ask your co-worker about tree nuts. Tree nut allergies tend not to be triggered as easily as peanut allergies which are easily triggered through contact or smell. Most tree nut allergy emergencies are from eating them.
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  "found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”" I imagine they want you to make sure the outside of the jar doesn't have peanut butter on it, to reduce the risk of peanut butter contaminating other surfaces the jar comes into contact with. Some people leave food residue on the external surfaces of food containers.
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Bringing peanut butter to work could kill your co-worker so why do you have to ask anyone what you should do? Peanuts and tree nuts are not part of the same family. Being allergic to one does not mean you are allergic to the other. Actually, peas are part of the peanut family, so if you are allergic to peanuts you'll likely be allergic to peas. If you need some sort of nut then ask your co-worker about tree nuts. Tree nut allergies tend not to be triggered as easily as peanut allergies which are easily triggered through contact or smell. Most tree nut allergy emergencies are from eating them.
– Dunk
Nov 11 '14 at 0:09

Bringing peanut butter to work could kill your co-worker so why do you have to ask anyone what you should do? Peanuts and tree nuts are not part of the same family. Being allergic to one does not mean you are allergic to the other. Actually, peas are part of the peanut family, so if you are allergic to peanuts you'll likely be allergic to peas. If you need some sort of nut then ask your co-worker about tree nuts. Tree nut allergies tend not to be triggered as easily as peanut allergies which are easily triggered through contact or smell. Most tree nut allergy emergencies are from eating them.
– Dunk
Nov 11 '14 at 0:09

Are you sure he was being sarcastic when he said it could kill him? Did you make sure you understand the gravity of the allergy?
– Mr Me
Apr 18 at 12:11

Are you sure he was being sarcastic when he said it could kill him? Did you make sure you understand the gravity of the allergy?
– Mr Me
Apr 18 at 12:11

"found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”" I imagine they want you to make sure the outside of the jar doesn't have peanut butter on it, to reduce the risk of peanut butter contaminating other surfaces the jar comes into contact with. Some people leave food residue on the external surfaces of food containers.
– Lag
Apr 18 at 13:37

"found the e-mail confusing, what did they mean by “clean the jar”" I imagine they want you to make sure the outside of the jar doesn't have peanut butter on it, to reduce the risk of peanut butter contaminating other surfaces the jar comes into contact with. Some people leave food residue on the external surfaces of food containers.
– Lag
Apr 18 at 13:37

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Peanut allergies can be extremely serious. I would personally err on the side of not eating peanut butter at the office, even if you are "allowed". If you make a mistake, you really could kill your co-worker.

Here are some resources for learning more about peanut allergies and anaphylaxis:

http://www.foodallergy.org/allergens/peanut-allergy

http://www.foodallergy.org/anaphylaxis

http://www.foodallergy.org/managing-food-allergies-at/work

Although deaths typically do not occur without direct ingestion, there is a possibility of a severe reaction just from touching something contaminated with peanut butter that hasn't been properly washed. There would be more risk if the allergic person put his food down on a counter that hadn't been properly cleaned, but I would assume that he is extra careful about where he puts his food.

Still, if it were me, I'd save the peanut butter for eating at home and eat other things at work. Obviously, that isn't a viable option if there are lots of people claiming lots of different severe allergies, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this situation. At least until you get to know the allergic employee better and have a chance to have a decent conversation with him. His initial response was flippant and unhelpful, but to me reflects genuine fear about people bringing his allergen into the office. I won't repeat them, but the links in Vietnhi's response show why a person with this allergy might be truly afraid for his life. This fear may also arise because allergic reactions tend to get worse with each exposure (see item 4 in the FAQ below).

http://foodallergies.stanford.edu/learn/food-allergy-faq.html

Note that I am not proposing that the workplace ban peanuts (or any other allergen) but rather that co-workers educate themselves. And having done so, they may wish to err on the side of caution (and kindness/courtesy in minimizing the allergic person's fears), if avoiding peanuts in the workplace is not a big inconvenience for them.

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I’d say don’t eat peanut butter in the office. You don’t want to take a chance with somebody's life and it’s not worth somebody’s life. No matter how careful you are with that peanut butter, somebody else could be less careful with the peanut butter and put that person’s life in jeopardy. All it takes is for you to be distracted for a minute and leaving that peanut butter temporarily where it's not supposed to be.

The person with the peanut allergy may have other allergies related to nuts, so your best bet is to talk to that person directly about what kinds of food you can safely eat around that person. It’s no fun having the life of another person in your hands but it is what it is.

Frankly, I think the management should take no chances and send a memo and regular reminders to ban the peanut butter from the office. It’s not just you.

From the two references below, I’d say that for a peanut allergy sufferer, non-ingestive exposure can result in a visit to the emergency room. Accidental ingestion of even trace amounts can result in a life terminating experience. A couple of bits and crumbs of peanut butter somehow find their way into the peanut allergy sufferer’s food through negligence or carelessness and the peanut allergy sufferer is done.

From Peanut allergies can be deadly:

1. Reactions can be triggered by even trace amounts of peanuts.
   “There are true risks when … enough peanut protein is really being disturbed. So if people are cracking open peanuts, especially in a confined space, a waiting area of a restaurant, you could have a very severe reaction because there’s enough peanut airborne there,” said Dr. Robert Wood of Johns Hopkins University.




2. Jacqui Corba, 15, had her first reaction when she was 2, even though she wasn't eating peanuts herself. “I was on an airplane flight with my mom, and she ate peanuts and gave me a kiss on my face, I blew up like all over and I was red.” She also had an anaphylactic reaction at school after a classmate opened a bag of peanuts near her. Many schools now reserve separate tables where no peanut butter is allowed.




3. Risinger and a boyfriend had earlier found out about the severity of her allergy the hard way. “I’ve had a reaction from kissing once ... he started kissing me, and my lips started tingling, and immediately I was like, ‘we have to stop, and I need to take Benadryl.’” To avoid what literally could be the kiss of death, Risinger gives her dates a choice: It's either peanuts and nuts, or her.

Peanut allergy…the shocking facts

1. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy.


2. Peanuts are the leading cause of severe food allergic reactions, followed by shellfish, fish, tree nuts and eggs. (Food Allergy Network)


3. Peanut allergy can be characterized by more severe symptoms, such as gastrointestinal, skin and respiratory symptoms, than other food allergies and by a high rate of symptoms on minimal contact. (“Clinical characteristics of peanut allergy,”


4. Severe sufferers also may experience potentially life-threatening anaphylactic shock in response to ingestion of peanuts. Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction in which the release of histamine causes swelling, difficulty in breathing, heart failure, circulatory collapse, and sometimes death.


5. As many as one-third of peanut-sensitive patients have severe reactions, such as fatal and near-fatal anaphylaxis.

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  In fairness, the danger of such allergies is often misunderstood and therefore overstated. The nature and severity of the reaction varies greatly between individuals (and mode of exposure), and serious/life-threatening reactions are in fact quite rare. Doubly so in cases of transient/second-hand exposure as described in the OP. I'd agree that the simplest solution for the OP is to not eat peanut-butter in the office; but an outright ban is an overreaction.
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  An outright ban may be an over-reaction because the employer probably assumes their workers have an ounce of intelligence in them and wouldn't bring peanuts or peanut butter to work knowing that this could kill someone. IMO, if someone were to die because someone brought peanuts to work when they knew the risks then they should be criminally prosecuted. To say that this issue is often misunderstood is quite correct, to say that it is overstated shows an enormous amount of ignorance. People can require hospitalization from the tiniest contact with peanuts. That's not an overstatement.
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How do you deal with food allergies in the workplace? has some basic stuff worth noting.

If you don't have experience with allergies then it may be worth having a private conversation with the person to get whatever details you need. The key here is that you might not know how to handle things and thus it is worth considering what questions do you want answered. Stories like Teen Dies After Deadly Peanut Butter Kiss are what you want to avoid.

You should consult your boss to see what is the policy. It may be that you are allowed peanut butter but you have to be careful with it.

Clean the jar meant that when you are done with the jar, to wash it out so that there isn't a residue that could cause a problem if the employee with the allergy comes into contact with the jar somehow.

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In all honesty I feel that you should not have sought out the person with peanut allergies in the first place. This health concern is between the employee and employer because it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe and healthy working environment.

An employer does not send notifications like this for no reason and no employee should fear discrimination or ridicule for having a negative reaction to peanuts.

The proper course of action was:

1. Read the email


2. Realize that your actions could threaten someone's well-being


3. Approach the secretary admitting that you violated the actions listed in the email


4. Ask the secretary if they think it would better to simply avoid eating the food altogether


5. Ask the secretary if the allergy extends to other things as well such as almonds

If the secretary does not know the answers to these questions then they will find the answer or direct you to someone who knows the answer.

Seeking out the person with the allergy is considered a hostile gesture because if they wanted you to know who they were in the first place then they would have let you know.

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  Some health concerns are between the employee and the employer. Some health concerns are none of the employer's business. And some health concerns, when they can be exacerbated by the innocuous behavior of other people, should be widely publicized.
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What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter
and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied "it
could kill me".

That sounds like a massive overreaction. It sounds to me like something else is happening between you two. I have worked in multiple workplaces with folks who have various allergies & I assure you 100% nobody reacted the way you described to you simply eating a peanut butter sandwich.

For example, I have dog & cat hair allergies. Yet I have worked in offices with dogs & cats with no issue. Nothing formal, just would let people know I had an allergy & that was it.

Our department has pizza every now & then. Doughnuts as well. And someone who shared spaced with us had gluten allergies. We didn’t have to scrub every surface after every time we brought stuff in.

I genuinely think your co-worker is honest about their allergy. But their description of you basically having to create a “clean room” after each meal is just too extreme. I would try to talk to them & see if maybe you having separate utensils would help. And if they are resistant? Like I said at the beginning, something else is happening in their work relationship to you that might be causing a passive-aggresive over-reaction to this incident.

And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia—the full article has citations—that spells it out clearer:

While the most obvious and dangerous route for an allergic individual
is unintentional ingestion, some reactions are possible through
external exposure. Airborne particles in a farm- or factory-scale
shelling or crushing environment, or from cooking, can produce
respiratory effects in exposed allergic individuals. Empirical testing
has discredited some reports of this type and shown some to be
exaggerated. Residue on surfaces has been known to cause minor skin
rashes, though not anaphylaxis. In The Peanut Allergy Answer Book,
Harvard pediatrician Michael Young characterizes this secondary
contact risk to allergic individuals as rare and limited to minor
symptoms. Some reactions have been noted to be psychogenic in nature,
the result of conditioning and belief rather than a true chemical
reaction. Blinded, placebo-controlled studies by Sicherer et al. were
unable to produce any reactions using the odor of peanut butter or its
mere proximity.

If peanuts were so deadly that simply breathing the air a jar of peanut butter was opened could kill you don’t you think there would be more deaths? Don’t you think that stores that have full bins of shelled peanuts for bulk purchase would have been shut down by now because of the risk of exposure from dust & off gassing? It’s ingestion of the peanuts & oils that have kills people. It has not ever been casual exposure.

Also, since some people are quoting this hyper dramatic article where a teenage girl sadly died from peanut exposure, here is some perspective from the article in question:

A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her
boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital
officials said Monday.

Direct ingestion of peanuts is what sadly killed her. Is this original poster making out with his co-worker? Pretty confident that is not the case. Casual exposure is not a death risk.

I stand by my original theory that there is something else at play with the interactions between the original poster & their co-worker. Yes, the co-worker has an allergy, but their reaction is so over-reactive to what happened it doesn’t ring as the true root of that reaction.

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  As someone who has a life-threatening allergy to peanuts, I feel it is important for me to note that this answer is quite incorrect. Environmental allergies are an entirely different beast than food (environmental allergies are rarely, if ever, capable of killing someone), and thus a poor analogy. Also, there are people who have "airborne anaphylactic" allergies, where the presence of peanut dust can trigger a reaction. (Don't have a source on-hand right now... sorry) This was unheard-of several years ago, yet is becoming more common with time (anecdotally). (cont)
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  Lastly, re: your statement that "something more is going on:" my typical first response to "what happens when you eat a peanut?" is "I die." Opening in that way is perfectly honest, and also conveys the sense of urgency and importance that the situation requires. Saying "it could kill me" is not antagonistic, but is a simple statement of fact. It's not over-reactive, given that trace amounts of peanut can trigger an allergy (e.g. you get some peanut butter on a table that I don't see, I get it on my apple and ingest it), but an attempt to bring the attention to this issue that it deserves.
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No harm, no foul, you didn't know, etc. this time. Now that you have been informed, I'd strongly suggest avoiding bringing peanuts into the office.

Independent of the questions of lethality or non-lethality: If you know the scent of something makes a co-worker nauseous at the very least (and that is not an uncommon reaction for allergics to find themselves conditioned into), it is polite to avoid subjecting them to it. And peanuts are fairly aromatic; it's just that most of us don't have reason to be sensitive to them.

Whether "tree nuts" are also included in the ban, or conversely whether other legumes are and to what degree... Ask the person who reacts badly for advice. There are several different proteins in peanuts that people can develop allergies/intolerances to. One is shared with many (not all) tree nuts; I know someone who has that particular sensitivity. Other folks may react to something else.

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In situations like this, where the type of reaction has the possibility of being deadly, it seems to me that the best course of action is an over abundance of caution.

Forgoing a PB sandwich while at work is a far smaller inconvenience than the possibility of causing discomfort (or worse) to the coworker.

So the choice here should be clear on what to do from a social perspective. The original email sounds to me like they where trying to leave it up to the employees to make the adult decision, which is to leave the PB at home while not trying to sound authoritarian.

Just do the right thing.

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Based on your comment "this is my first week, but does it matter?" it is clear that you are the new member of the team. Therefore you need to ask your boss questions to determine what is the scope of the problem and what should you do.

Food allergies can range from inconsequential with no way for a person consuming the food to impact the allergy sufferer; to deadly where somebody consuming or cooking the food near them can cause a problem. We can't guess where they fall in this spectrum.

Because this is an issue that has existed for a while, others know what to do. The company and the employee have reached an understanding. It is possible that the employee has not been revealed to other employees, so start with your supervisor. They may give specific guidelines, or direct you to HR, or even to the person with the allergy. Their answer may even depend on how likely you are to interact with the individual.

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How should I accommodate a coworker who has a peanut butter allergy?

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m
not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts
like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the
individual?

If you really want to accommodate your coworker, you should leave the peanut butter at home. You should also consult your allergic coworker as to the impact of other nuts and act accordingly.

If you instead want to find out "Am I allowed to eat what I want even if it could kill one of my coworkers?" you should consult HR. They probably have a protocol which covers such a situation. (Or if not, they should.)

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In terms of company policy, HR or legal would be the best place to ask. In severe cases, the employer could be at fault. For example:

Conflicts over work-related irritants and allergens can end up in court. Last July, Susan McBride, who works in the planning department of the City of Detroit, sued the city in United States District Court for violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Ms. McBride, her lawsuit says, suffers from severe migraines, dizziness, nausea, earaches and sinus and breathing problems when exposed to strong scents, and she regularly became ill at work when a colleague arrived wearing perfume. The colleague refused to stop spritzing (though she did agree to unplug an air freshener) and the women's bosses refused to ban scents in the office.

The employee with allergies may be able to request accommodations based on the state or local law:

The ADA helps people with asthma and allergies create safer, healthier environments where they work, shop and eat. It also helps people who attend public schools and non-religious private schools, even if those schools do not receive federal funding. For example, a private preschool may have to allow a child to use a quick-relief asthma inhaler during the day. Or, a company cannot refuse to hire a qualified person with food allergies because they may have to make the lunchroom allergy friendly.

References

• Sickened by the Office (Really)




• Are Asthma and Allergies Disabilities

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It's important for everyone, especially those with potentially fatal food allergies, to weed out and penalize the "drama queens" who exaggerate allergies and other conditions either for attention or just to bully. There is a lot of cynism about food allergies precisely because the average person probably runs into 20 drama queens for every real person at risk. This cry wolf phenomenon is very dangerous to the people actually beset by wolves.

It's pretty easy to tell how serious a person's allergies are. People with with serious allergies carry epipens If a person doesn't, then they don't really think they have a potentially fatal allergy.

Few things in life are more frightening than the idea that almost anything you encounter could be covered in an invisible poison that could kill you horribly in minutes. It kind of seizes your attention. People with real, potentially fatal allergies just don't screw around, they carry the technology that will keep them alive.

If someone doesn't, then they aren't that afraid.

I pretty sure that under US law, any company with more than 50 employees will have to have to identify people at risk and have an emergency plan in place to deal with them coming in contact with an allergen, just like they do with diabetics and other people with sudden onset health issues. That will include epipens in all first aid kits as well as personnel trained and assigned to their use and aware of which individuals will may need care.

The steps suggested in the email are actually not sufficient to protect a person with severe peanut allergies. People have died from coming into contact with the dust from crushed peanuts in an discarded candy bar that rolled under a desk. Likewise, you could kill them just by shaking hands after having eaten anything with peanuts hours before.

The only real protection is not trying to remove all peanut proteins from an area, an impossible task because they are a common food, but to prepare for the certain eventuality that they the allergic will come in contact and have an attack.

In a severe attack, you will have as little as 4 minutes to understand what is going on and administer the epiniphrine. If your not prepared to respond before the attack occurs, you probably won't make it.

Your employer should require the at risk employee to carry an epipen at all times as well as make sure that the employee is identified to at least several members of management (so someone onsite will always know) and any designated onsite first responders (which you should have in every work place.)
Likewise, if the allergy is not severe, then the employee in question needs education on how they endanger others by crying wolf, not to mention the corrosive effects such behavior has on team cohesion.

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Peanut allergies can be extremely serious. I would personally err on the side of not eating peanut butter at the office, even if you are "allowed". If you make a mistake, you really could kill your co-worker.

Here are some resources for learning more about peanut allergies and anaphylaxis:

http://www.foodallergy.org/allergens/peanut-allergy

http://www.foodallergy.org/anaphylaxis

http://www.foodallergy.org/managing-food-allergies-at/work

Although deaths typically do not occur without direct ingestion, there is a possibility of a severe reaction just from touching something contaminated with peanut butter that hasn't been properly washed. There would be more risk if the allergic person put his food down on a counter that hadn't been properly cleaned, but I would assume that he is extra careful about where he puts his food.

Still, if it were me, I'd save the peanut butter for eating at home and eat other things at work. Obviously, that isn't a viable option if there are lots of people claiming lots of different severe allergies, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this situation. At least until you get to know the allergic employee better and have a chance to have a decent conversation with him. His initial response was flippant and unhelpful, but to me reflects genuine fear about people bringing his allergen into the office. I won't repeat them, but the links in Vietnhi's response show why a person with this allergy might be truly afraid for his life. This fear may also arise because allergic reactions tend to get worse with each exposure (see item 4 in the FAQ below).

http://foodallergies.stanford.edu/learn/food-allergy-faq.html

Note that I am not proposing that the workplace ban peanuts (or any other allergen) but rather that co-workers educate themselves. And having done so, they may wish to err on the side of caution (and kindness/courtesy in minimizing the allergic person's fears), if avoiding peanuts in the workplace is not a big inconvenience for them.

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Peanut allergies can be extremely serious. I would personally err on the side of not eating peanut butter at the office, even if you are "allowed". If you make a mistake, you really could kill your co-worker.

Here are some resources for learning more about peanut allergies and anaphylaxis:

http://www.foodallergy.org/allergens/peanut-allergy

http://www.foodallergy.org/anaphylaxis

http://www.foodallergy.org/managing-food-allergies-at/work

Although deaths typically do not occur without direct ingestion, there is a possibility of a severe reaction just from touching something contaminated with peanut butter that hasn't been properly washed. There would be more risk if the allergic person put his food down on a counter that hadn't been properly cleaned, but I would assume that he is extra careful about where he puts his food.

Still, if it were me, I'd save the peanut butter for eating at home and eat other things at work. Obviously, that isn't a viable option if there are lots of people claiming lots of different severe allergies, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this situation. At least until you get to know the allergic employee better and have a chance to have a decent conversation with him. His initial response was flippant and unhelpful, but to me reflects genuine fear about people bringing his allergen into the office. I won't repeat them, but the links in Vietnhi's response show why a person with this allergy might be truly afraid for his life. This fear may also arise because allergic reactions tend to get worse with each exposure (see item 4 in the FAQ below).

http://foodallergies.stanford.edu/learn/food-allergy-faq.html

Note that I am not proposing that the workplace ban peanuts (or any other allergen) but rather that co-workers educate themselves. And having done so, they may wish to err on the side of caution (and kindness/courtesy in minimizing the allergic person's fears), if avoiding peanuts in the workplace is not a big inconvenience for them.

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Peanut allergies can be extremely serious. I would personally err on the side of not eating peanut butter at the office, even if you are "allowed". If you make a mistake, you really could kill your co-worker.

Here are some resources for learning more about peanut allergies and anaphylaxis:

http://www.foodallergy.org/allergens/peanut-allergy

http://www.foodallergy.org/anaphylaxis

http://www.foodallergy.org/managing-food-allergies-at/work

Although deaths typically do not occur without direct ingestion, there is a possibility of a severe reaction just from touching something contaminated with peanut butter that hasn't been properly washed. There would be more risk if the allergic person put his food down on a counter that hadn't been properly cleaned, but I would assume that he is extra careful about where he puts his food.

Still, if it were me, I'd save the peanut butter for eating at home and eat other things at work. Obviously, that isn't a viable option if there are lots of people claiming lots of different severe allergies, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this situation. At least until you get to know the allergic employee better and have a chance to have a decent conversation with him. His initial response was flippant and unhelpful, but to me reflects genuine fear about people bringing his allergen into the office. I won't repeat them, but the links in Vietnhi's response show why a person with this allergy might be truly afraid for his life. This fear may also arise because allergic reactions tend to get worse with each exposure (see item 4 in the FAQ below).

http://foodallergies.stanford.edu/learn/food-allergy-faq.html

Note that I am not proposing that the workplace ban peanuts (or any other allergen) but rather that co-workers educate themselves. And having done so, they may wish to err on the side of caution (and kindness/courtesy in minimizing the allergic person's fears), if avoiding peanuts in the workplace is not a big inconvenience for them.

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Peanut allergies can be extremely serious. I would personally err on the side of not eating peanut butter at the office, even if you are "allowed". If you make a mistake, you really could kill your co-worker.

Here are some resources for learning more about peanut allergies and anaphylaxis:

http://www.foodallergy.org/allergens/peanut-allergy

http://www.foodallergy.org/anaphylaxis

http://www.foodallergy.org/managing-food-allergies-at/work

Although deaths typically do not occur without direct ingestion, there is a possibility of a severe reaction just from touching something contaminated with peanut butter that hasn't been properly washed. There would be more risk if the allergic person put his food down on a counter that hadn't been properly cleaned, but I would assume that he is extra careful about where he puts his food.

Still, if it were me, I'd save the peanut butter for eating at home and eat other things at work. Obviously, that isn't a viable option if there are lots of people claiming lots of different severe allergies, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this situation. At least until you get to know the allergic employee better and have a chance to have a decent conversation with him. His initial response was flippant and unhelpful, but to me reflects genuine fear about people bringing his allergen into the office. I won't repeat them, but the links in Vietnhi's response show why a person with this allergy might be truly afraid for his life. This fear may also arise because allergic reactions tend to get worse with each exposure (see item 4 in the FAQ below).

http://foodallergies.stanford.edu/learn/food-allergy-faq.html

Note that I am not proposing that the workplace ban peanuts (or any other allergen) but rather that co-workers educate themselves. And having done so, they may wish to err on the side of caution (and kindness/courtesy in minimizing the allergic person's fears), if avoiding peanuts in the workplace is not a big inconvenience for them.

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I’d say don’t eat peanut butter in the office. You don’t want to take a chance with somebody's life and it’s not worth somebody’s life. No matter how careful you are with that peanut butter, somebody else could be less careful with the peanut butter and put that person’s life in jeopardy. All it takes is for you to be distracted for a minute and leaving that peanut butter temporarily where it's not supposed to be.

The person with the peanut allergy may have other allergies related to nuts, so your best bet is to talk to that person directly about what kinds of food you can safely eat around that person. It’s no fun having the life of another person in your hands but it is what it is.

Frankly, I think the management should take no chances and send a memo and regular reminders to ban the peanut butter from the office. It’s not just you.

From the two references below, I’d say that for a peanut allergy sufferer, non-ingestive exposure can result in a visit to the emergency room. Accidental ingestion of even trace amounts can result in a life terminating experience. A couple of bits and crumbs of peanut butter somehow find their way into the peanut allergy sufferer’s food through negligence or carelessness and the peanut allergy sufferer is done.

From Peanut allergies can be deadly:

1. Reactions can be triggered by even trace amounts of peanuts.
   “There are true risks when … enough peanut protein is really being disturbed. So if people are cracking open peanuts, especially in a confined space, a waiting area of a restaurant, you could have a very severe reaction because there’s enough peanut airborne there,” said Dr. Robert Wood of Johns Hopkins University.




2. Jacqui Corba, 15, had her first reaction when she was 2, even though she wasn't eating peanuts herself. “I was on an airplane flight with my mom, and she ate peanuts and gave me a kiss on my face, I blew up like all over and I was red.” She also had an anaphylactic reaction at school after a classmate opened a bag of peanuts near her. Many schools now reserve separate tables where no peanut butter is allowed.




3. Risinger and a boyfriend had earlier found out about the severity of her allergy the hard way. “I’ve had a reaction from kissing once ... he started kissing me, and my lips started tingling, and immediately I was like, ‘we have to stop, and I need to take Benadryl.’” To avoid what literally could be the kiss of death, Risinger gives her dates a choice: It's either peanuts and nuts, or her.

Peanut allergy…the shocking facts

1. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy.


2. Peanuts are the leading cause of severe food allergic reactions, followed by shellfish, fish, tree nuts and eggs. (Food Allergy Network)


3. Peanut allergy can be characterized by more severe symptoms, such as gastrointestinal, skin and respiratory symptoms, than other food allergies and by a high rate of symptoms on minimal contact. (“Clinical characteristics of peanut allergy,”


4. Severe sufferers also may experience potentially life-threatening anaphylactic shock in response to ingestion of peanuts. Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction in which the release of histamine causes swelling, difficulty in breathing, heart failure, circulatory collapse, and sometimes death.


5. As many as one-third of peanut-sensitive patients have severe reactions, such as fatal and near-fatal anaphylaxis.

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I’d say don’t eat peanut butter in the office. You don’t want to take a chance with somebody's life and it’s not worth somebody’s life. No matter how careful you are with that peanut butter, somebody else could be less careful with the peanut butter and put that person’s life in jeopardy. All it takes is for you to be distracted for a minute and leaving that peanut butter temporarily where it's not supposed to be.

The person with the peanut allergy may have other allergies related to nuts, so your best bet is to talk to that person directly about what kinds of food you can safely eat around that person. It’s no fun having the life of another person in your hands but it is what it is.

Frankly, I think the management should take no chances and send a memo and regular reminders to ban the peanut butter from the office. It’s not just you.

From the two references below, I’d say that for a peanut allergy sufferer, non-ingestive exposure can result in a visit to the emergency room. Accidental ingestion of even trace amounts can result in a life terminating experience. A couple of bits and crumbs of peanut butter somehow find their way into the peanut allergy sufferer’s food through negligence or carelessness and the peanut allergy sufferer is done.

From Peanut allergies can be deadly:

1. Reactions can be triggered by even trace amounts of peanuts.
   “There are true risks when … enough peanut protein is really being disturbed. So if people are cracking open peanuts, especially in a confined space, a waiting area of a restaurant, you could have a very severe reaction because there’s enough peanut airborne there,” said Dr. Robert Wood of Johns Hopkins University.




2. Jacqui Corba, 15, had her first reaction when she was 2, even though she wasn't eating peanuts herself. “I was on an airplane flight with my mom, and she ate peanuts and gave me a kiss on my face, I blew up like all over and I was red.” She also had an anaphylactic reaction at school after a classmate opened a bag of peanuts near her. Many schools now reserve separate tables where no peanut butter is allowed.




3. Risinger and a boyfriend had earlier found out about the severity of her allergy the hard way. “I’ve had a reaction from kissing once ... he started kissing me, and my lips started tingling, and immediately I was like, ‘we have to stop, and I need to take Benadryl.’” To avoid what literally could be the kiss of death, Risinger gives her dates a choice: It's either peanuts and nuts, or her.

Peanut allergy…the shocking facts

1. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy.


2. Peanuts are the leading cause of severe food allergic reactions, followed by shellfish, fish, tree nuts and eggs. (Food Allergy Network)


3. Peanut allergy can be characterized by more severe symptoms, such as gastrointestinal, skin and respiratory symptoms, than other food allergies and by a high rate of symptoms on minimal contact. (“Clinical characteristics of peanut allergy,”


4. Severe sufferers also may experience potentially life-threatening anaphylactic shock in response to ingestion of peanuts. Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction in which the release of histamine causes swelling, difficulty in breathing, heart failure, circulatory collapse, and sometimes death.


5. As many as one-third of peanut-sensitive patients have severe reactions, such as fatal and near-fatal anaphylaxis.

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I’d say don’t eat peanut butter in the office. You don’t want to take a chance with somebody's life and it’s not worth somebody’s life. No matter how careful you are with that peanut butter, somebody else could be less careful with the peanut butter and put that person’s life in jeopardy. All it takes is for you to be distracted for a minute and leaving that peanut butter temporarily where it's not supposed to be.

The person with the peanut allergy may have other allergies related to nuts, so your best bet is to talk to that person directly about what kinds of food you can safely eat around that person. It’s no fun having the life of another person in your hands but it is what it is.

Frankly, I think the management should take no chances and send a memo and regular reminders to ban the peanut butter from the office. It’s not just you.

From the two references below, I’d say that for a peanut allergy sufferer, non-ingestive exposure can result in a visit to the emergency room. Accidental ingestion of even trace amounts can result in a life terminating experience. A couple of bits and crumbs of peanut butter somehow find their way into the peanut allergy sufferer’s food through negligence or carelessness and the peanut allergy sufferer is done.

From Peanut allergies can be deadly:

1. Reactions can be triggered by even trace amounts of peanuts.
   “There are true risks when … enough peanut protein is really being disturbed. So if people are cracking open peanuts, especially in a confined space, a waiting area of a restaurant, you could have a very severe reaction because there’s enough peanut airborne there,” said Dr. Robert Wood of Johns Hopkins University.




2. Jacqui Corba, 15, had her first reaction when she was 2, even though she wasn't eating peanuts herself. “I was on an airplane flight with my mom, and she ate peanuts and gave me a kiss on my face, I blew up like all over and I was red.” She also had an anaphylactic reaction at school after a classmate opened a bag of peanuts near her. Many schools now reserve separate tables where no peanut butter is allowed.




3. Risinger and a boyfriend had earlier found out about the severity of her allergy the hard way. “I’ve had a reaction from kissing once ... he started kissing me, and my lips started tingling, and immediately I was like, ‘we have to stop, and I need to take Benadryl.’” To avoid what literally could be the kiss of death, Risinger gives her dates a choice: It's either peanuts and nuts, or her.

Peanut allergy…the shocking facts

1. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy.


2. Peanuts are the leading cause of severe food allergic reactions, followed by shellfish, fish, tree nuts and eggs. (Food Allergy Network)


3. Peanut allergy can be characterized by more severe symptoms, such as gastrointestinal, skin and respiratory symptoms, than other food allergies and by a high rate of symptoms on minimal contact. (“Clinical characteristics of peanut allergy,”


4. Severe sufferers also may experience potentially life-threatening anaphylactic shock in response to ingestion of peanuts. Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction in which the release of histamine causes swelling, difficulty in breathing, heart failure, circulatory collapse, and sometimes death.


5. As many as one-third of peanut-sensitive patients have severe reactions, such as fatal and near-fatal anaphylaxis.

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I’d say don’t eat peanut butter in the office. You don’t want to take a chance with somebody's life and it’s not worth somebody’s life. No matter how careful you are with that peanut butter, somebody else could be less careful with the peanut butter and put that person’s life in jeopardy. All it takes is for you to be distracted for a minute and leaving that peanut butter temporarily where it's not supposed to be.

The person with the peanut allergy may have other allergies related to nuts, so your best bet is to talk to that person directly about what kinds of food you can safely eat around that person. It’s no fun having the life of another person in your hands but it is what it is.

Frankly, I think the management should take no chances and send a memo and regular reminders to ban the peanut butter from the office. It’s not just you.

From the two references below, I’d say that for a peanut allergy sufferer, non-ingestive exposure can result in a visit to the emergency room. Accidental ingestion of even trace amounts can result in a life terminating experience. A couple of bits and crumbs of peanut butter somehow find their way into the peanut allergy sufferer’s food through negligence or carelessness and the peanut allergy sufferer is done.

From Peanut allergies can be deadly:

1. Reactions can be triggered by even trace amounts of peanuts.
   “There are true risks when … enough peanut protein is really being disturbed. So if people are cracking open peanuts, especially in a confined space, a waiting area of a restaurant, you could have a very severe reaction because there’s enough peanut airborne there,” said Dr. Robert Wood of Johns Hopkins University.




2. Jacqui Corba, 15, had her first reaction when she was 2, even though she wasn't eating peanuts herself. “I was on an airplane flight with my mom, and she ate peanuts and gave me a kiss on my face, I blew up like all over and I was red.” She also had an anaphylactic reaction at school after a classmate opened a bag of peanuts near her. Many schools now reserve separate tables where no peanut butter is allowed.




3. Risinger and a boyfriend had earlier found out about the severity of her allergy the hard way. “I’ve had a reaction from kissing once ... he started kissing me, and my lips started tingling, and immediately I was like, ‘we have to stop, and I need to take Benadryl.’” To avoid what literally could be the kiss of death, Risinger gives her dates a choice: It's either peanuts and nuts, or her.

Peanut allergy…the shocking facts

1. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy.


2. Peanuts are the leading cause of severe food allergic reactions, followed by shellfish, fish, tree nuts and eggs. (Food Allergy Network)


3. Peanut allergy can be characterized by more severe symptoms, such as gastrointestinal, skin and respiratory symptoms, than other food allergies and by a high rate of symptoms on minimal contact. (“Clinical characteristics of peanut allergy,”


4. Severe sufferers also may experience potentially life-threatening anaphylactic shock in response to ingestion of peanuts. Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction in which the release of histamine causes swelling, difficulty in breathing, heart failure, circulatory collapse, and sometimes death.


5. As many as one-third of peanut-sensitive patients have severe reactions, such as fatal and near-fatal anaphylaxis.

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  In fairness, the danger of such allergies is often misunderstood and therefore overstated. The nature and severity of the reaction varies greatly between individuals (and mode of exposure), and serious/life-threatening reactions are in fact quite rare. Doubly so in cases of transient/second-hand exposure as described in the OP. I'd agree that the simplest solution for the OP is to not eat peanut-butter in the office; but an outright ban is an overreaction.
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  An outright ban may be an over-reaction because the employer probably assumes their workers have an ounce of intelligence in them and wouldn't bring peanuts or peanut butter to work knowing that this could kill someone. IMO, if someone were to die because someone brought peanuts to work when they knew the risks then they should be criminally prosecuted. To say that this issue is often misunderstood is quite correct, to say that it is overstated shows an enormous amount of ignorance. People can require hospitalization from the tiniest contact with peanuts. That's not an overstatement.
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In fairness, the danger of such allergies is often misunderstood and therefore overstated. The nature and severity of the reaction varies greatly between individuals (and mode of exposure), and serious/life-threatening reactions are in fact quite rare. Doubly so in cases of transient/second-hand exposure as described in the OP. I'd agree that the simplest solution for the OP is to not eat peanut-butter in the office; but an outright ban is an overreaction.
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In fairness, the danger of such allergies is often misunderstood and therefore overstated. The nature and severity of the reaction varies greatly between individuals (and mode of exposure), and serious/life-threatening reactions are in fact quite rare. Doubly so in cases of transient/second-hand exposure as described in the OP. I'd agree that the simplest solution for the OP is to not eat peanut-butter in the office; but an outright ban is an overreaction.
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An outright ban may be an over-reaction because the employer probably assumes their workers have an ounce of intelligence in them and wouldn't bring peanuts or peanut butter to work knowing that this could kill someone. IMO, if someone were to die because someone brought peanuts to work when they knew the risks then they should be criminally prosecuted. To say that this issue is often misunderstood is quite correct, to say that it is overstated shows an enormous amount of ignorance. People can require hospitalization from the tiniest contact with peanuts. That's not an overstatement.
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An outright ban may be an over-reaction because the employer probably assumes their workers have an ounce of intelligence in them and wouldn't bring peanuts or peanut butter to work knowing that this could kill someone. IMO, if someone were to die because someone brought peanuts to work when they knew the risks then they should be criminally prosecuted. To say that this issue is often misunderstood is quite correct, to say that it is overstated shows an enormous amount of ignorance. People can require hospitalization from the tiniest contact with peanuts. That's not an overstatement.
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How do you deal with food allergies in the workplace? has some basic stuff worth noting.

If you don't have experience with allergies then it may be worth having a private conversation with the person to get whatever details you need. The key here is that you might not know how to handle things and thus it is worth considering what questions do you want answered. Stories like Teen Dies After Deadly Peanut Butter Kiss are what you want to avoid.

You should consult your boss to see what is the policy. It may be that you are allowed peanut butter but you have to be careful with it.

Clean the jar meant that when you are done with the jar, to wash it out so that there isn't a residue that could cause a problem if the employee with the allergy comes into contact with the jar somehow.

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How do you deal with food allergies in the workplace? has some basic stuff worth noting.

If you don't have experience with allergies then it may be worth having a private conversation with the person to get whatever details you need. The key here is that you might not know how to handle things and thus it is worth considering what questions do you want answered. Stories like Teen Dies After Deadly Peanut Butter Kiss are what you want to avoid.

You should consult your boss to see what is the policy. It may be that you are allowed peanut butter but you have to be careful with it.

Clean the jar meant that when you are done with the jar, to wash it out so that there isn't a residue that could cause a problem if the employee with the allergy comes into contact with the jar somehow.

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How do you deal with food allergies in the workplace? has some basic stuff worth noting.

If you don't have experience with allergies then it may be worth having a private conversation with the person to get whatever details you need. The key here is that you might not know how to handle things and thus it is worth considering what questions do you want answered. Stories like Teen Dies After Deadly Peanut Butter Kiss are what you want to avoid.

You should consult your boss to see what is the policy. It may be that you are allowed peanut butter but you have to be careful with it.

Clean the jar meant that when you are done with the jar, to wash it out so that there isn't a residue that could cause a problem if the employee with the allergy comes into contact with the jar somehow.

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How do you deal with food allergies in the workplace? has some basic stuff worth noting.

If you don't have experience with allergies then it may be worth having a private conversation with the person to get whatever details you need. The key here is that you might not know how to handle things and thus it is worth considering what questions do you want answered. Stories like Teen Dies After Deadly Peanut Butter Kiss are what you want to avoid.

You should consult your boss to see what is the policy. It may be that you are allowed peanut butter but you have to be careful with it.

Clean the jar meant that when you are done with the jar, to wash it out so that there isn't a residue that could cause a problem if the employee with the allergy comes into contact with the jar somehow.

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In all honesty I feel that you should not have sought out the person with peanut allergies in the first place. This health concern is between the employee and employer because it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe and healthy working environment.

An employer does not send notifications like this for no reason and no employee should fear discrimination or ridicule for having a negative reaction to peanuts.

The proper course of action was:

1. Read the email


2. Realize that your actions could threaten someone's well-being


3. Approach the secretary admitting that you violated the actions listed in the email


4. Ask the secretary if they think it would better to simply avoid eating the food altogether


5. Ask the secretary if the allergy extends to other things as well such as almonds

If the secretary does not know the answers to these questions then they will find the answer or direct you to someone who knows the answer.

Seeking out the person with the allergy is considered a hostile gesture because if they wanted you to know who they were in the first place then they would have let you know.

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In all honesty I feel that you should not have sought out the person with peanut allergies in the first place. This health concern is between the employee and employer because it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe and healthy working environment.

An employer does not send notifications like this for no reason and no employee should fear discrimination or ridicule for having a negative reaction to peanuts.

The proper course of action was:

1. Read the email


2. Realize that your actions could threaten someone's well-being


3. Approach the secretary admitting that you violated the actions listed in the email


4. Ask the secretary if they think it would better to simply avoid eating the food altogether


5. Ask the secretary if the allergy extends to other things as well such as almonds

If the secretary does not know the answers to these questions then they will find the answer or direct you to someone who knows the answer.

Seeking out the person with the allergy is considered a hostile gesture because if they wanted you to know who they were in the first place then they would have let you know.

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In all honesty I feel that you should not have sought out the person with peanut allergies in the first place. This health concern is between the employee and employer because it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe and healthy working environment.

An employer does not send notifications like this for no reason and no employee should fear discrimination or ridicule for having a negative reaction to peanuts.

The proper course of action was:

1. Read the email


2. Realize that your actions could threaten someone's well-being


3. Approach the secretary admitting that you violated the actions listed in the email


4. Ask the secretary if they think it would better to simply avoid eating the food altogether


5. Ask the secretary if the allergy extends to other things as well such as almonds

If the secretary does not know the answers to these questions then they will find the answer or direct you to someone who knows the answer.

Seeking out the person with the allergy is considered a hostile gesture because if they wanted you to know who they were in the first place then they would have let you know.

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In all honesty I feel that you should not have sought out the person with peanut allergies in the first place. This health concern is between the employee and employer because it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe and healthy working environment.

An employer does not send notifications like this for no reason and no employee should fear discrimination or ridicule for having a negative reaction to peanuts.

The proper course of action was:

1. Read the email


2. Realize that your actions could threaten someone's well-being


3. Approach the secretary admitting that you violated the actions listed in the email


4. Ask the secretary if they think it would better to simply avoid eating the food altogether


5. Ask the secretary if the allergy extends to other things as well such as almonds

If the secretary does not know the answers to these questions then they will find the answer or direct you to someone who knows the answer.

Seeking out the person with the allergy is considered a hostile gesture because if they wanted you to know who they were in the first place then they would have let you know.

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Some health concerns are between the employee and the employer. Some health concerns are none of the employer's business. And some health concerns, when they can be exacerbated by the innocuous behavior of other people, should be widely publicized.
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@mob My original answering was a tad overreaching. Does the update help?
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What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter
and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied "it
could kill me".

That sounds like a massive overreaction. It sounds to me like something else is happening between you two. I have worked in multiple workplaces with folks who have various allergies & I assure you 100% nobody reacted the way you described to you simply eating a peanut butter sandwich.

For example, I have dog & cat hair allergies. Yet I have worked in offices with dogs & cats with no issue. Nothing formal, just would let people know I had an allergy & that was it.

Our department has pizza every now & then. Doughnuts as well. And someone who shared spaced with us had gluten allergies. We didn’t have to scrub every surface after every time we brought stuff in.

I genuinely think your co-worker is honest about their allergy. But their description of you basically having to create a “clean room” after each meal is just too extreme. I would try to talk to them & see if maybe you having separate utensils would help. And if they are resistant? Like I said at the beginning, something else is happening in their work relationship to you that might be causing a passive-aggresive over-reaction to this incident.

And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia—the full article has citations—that spells it out clearer:

While the most obvious and dangerous route for an allergic individual
is unintentional ingestion, some reactions are possible through
external exposure. Airborne particles in a farm- or factory-scale
shelling or crushing environment, or from cooking, can produce
respiratory effects in exposed allergic individuals. Empirical testing
has discredited some reports of this type and shown some to be
exaggerated. Residue on surfaces has been known to cause minor skin
rashes, though not anaphylaxis. In The Peanut Allergy Answer Book,
Harvard pediatrician Michael Young characterizes this secondary
contact risk to allergic individuals as rare and limited to minor
symptoms. Some reactions have been noted to be psychogenic in nature,
the result of conditioning and belief rather than a true chemical
reaction. Blinded, placebo-controlled studies by Sicherer et al. were
unable to produce any reactions using the odor of peanut butter or its
mere proximity.

If peanuts were so deadly that simply breathing the air a jar of peanut butter was opened could kill you don’t you think there would be more deaths? Don’t you think that stores that have full bins of shelled peanuts for bulk purchase would have been shut down by now because of the risk of exposure from dust & off gassing? It’s ingestion of the peanuts & oils that have kills people. It has not ever been casual exposure.

Also, since some people are quoting this hyper dramatic article where a teenage girl sadly died from peanut exposure, here is some perspective from the article in question:

A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her
boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital
officials said Monday.

Direct ingestion of peanuts is what sadly killed her. Is this original poster making out with his co-worker? Pretty confident that is not the case. Casual exposure is not a death risk.

I stand by my original theory that there is something else at play with the interactions between the original poster & their co-worker. Yes, the co-worker has an allergy, but their reaction is so over-reactive to what happened it doesn’t ring as the true root of that reaction.

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  As someone who has a life-threatening allergy to peanuts, I feel it is important for me to note that this answer is quite incorrect. Environmental allergies are an entirely different beast than food (environmental allergies are rarely, if ever, capable of killing someone), and thus a poor analogy. Also, there are people who have "airborne anaphylactic" allergies, where the presence of peanut dust can trigger a reaction. (Don't have a source on-hand right now... sorry) This was unheard-of several years ago, yet is becoming more common with time (anecdotally). (cont)
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What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter
and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied "it
could kill me".

That sounds like a massive overreaction. It sounds to me like something else is happening between you two. I have worked in multiple workplaces with folks who have various allergies & I assure you 100% nobody reacted the way you described to you simply eating a peanut butter sandwich.

For example, I have dog & cat hair allergies. Yet I have worked in offices with dogs & cats with no issue. Nothing formal, just would let people know I had an allergy & that was it.

Our department has pizza every now & then. Doughnuts as well. And someone who shared spaced with us had gluten allergies. We didn’t have to scrub every surface after every time we brought stuff in.

I genuinely think your co-worker is honest about their allergy. But their description of you basically having to create a “clean room” after each meal is just too extreme. I would try to talk to them & see if maybe you having separate utensils would help. And if they are resistant? Like I said at the beginning, something else is happening in their work relationship to you that might be causing a passive-aggresive over-reaction to this incident.

And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia—the full article has citations—that spells it out clearer:

While the most obvious and dangerous route for an allergic individual
is unintentional ingestion, some reactions are possible through
external exposure. Airborne particles in a farm- or factory-scale
shelling or crushing environment, or from cooking, can produce
respiratory effects in exposed allergic individuals. Empirical testing
has discredited some reports of this type and shown some to be
exaggerated. Residue on surfaces has been known to cause minor skin
rashes, though not anaphylaxis. In The Peanut Allergy Answer Book,
Harvard pediatrician Michael Young characterizes this secondary
contact risk to allergic individuals as rare and limited to minor
symptoms. Some reactions have been noted to be psychogenic in nature,
the result of conditioning and belief rather than a true chemical
reaction. Blinded, placebo-controlled studies by Sicherer et al. were
unable to produce any reactions using the odor of peanut butter or its
mere proximity.

If peanuts were so deadly that simply breathing the air a jar of peanut butter was opened could kill you don’t you think there would be more deaths? Don’t you think that stores that have full bins of shelled peanuts for bulk purchase would have been shut down by now because of the risk of exposure from dust & off gassing? It’s ingestion of the peanuts & oils that have kills people. It has not ever been casual exposure.

Also, since some people are quoting this hyper dramatic article where a teenage girl sadly died from peanut exposure, here is some perspective from the article in question:

A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her
boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital
officials said Monday.

Direct ingestion of peanuts is what sadly killed her. Is this original poster making out with his co-worker? Pretty confident that is not the case. Casual exposure is not a death risk.

I stand by my original theory that there is something else at play with the interactions between the original poster & their co-worker. Yes, the co-worker has an allergy, but their reaction is so over-reactive to what happened it doesn’t ring as the true root of that reaction.

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What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter
and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied "it
could kill me".

That sounds like a massive overreaction. It sounds to me like something else is happening between you two. I have worked in multiple workplaces with folks who have various allergies & I assure you 100% nobody reacted the way you described to you simply eating a peanut butter sandwich.

For example, I have dog & cat hair allergies. Yet I have worked in offices with dogs & cats with no issue. Nothing formal, just would let people know I had an allergy & that was it.

Our department has pizza every now & then. Doughnuts as well. And someone who shared spaced with us had gluten allergies. We didn’t have to scrub every surface after every time we brought stuff in.

I genuinely think your co-worker is honest about their allergy. But their description of you basically having to create a “clean room” after each meal is just too extreme. I would try to talk to them & see if maybe you having separate utensils would help. And if they are resistant? Like I said at the beginning, something else is happening in their work relationship to you that might be causing a passive-aggresive over-reaction to this incident.

And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia—the full article has citations—that spells it out clearer:

While the most obvious and dangerous route for an allergic individual
is unintentional ingestion, some reactions are possible through
external exposure. Airborne particles in a farm- or factory-scale
shelling or crushing environment, or from cooking, can produce
respiratory effects in exposed allergic individuals. Empirical testing
has discredited some reports of this type and shown some to be
exaggerated. Residue on surfaces has been known to cause minor skin
rashes, though not anaphylaxis. In The Peanut Allergy Answer Book,
Harvard pediatrician Michael Young characterizes this secondary
contact risk to allergic individuals as rare and limited to minor
symptoms. Some reactions have been noted to be psychogenic in nature,
the result of conditioning and belief rather than a true chemical
reaction. Blinded, placebo-controlled studies by Sicherer et al. were
unable to produce any reactions using the odor of peanut butter or its
mere proximity.

If peanuts were so deadly that simply breathing the air a jar of peanut butter was opened could kill you don’t you think there would be more deaths? Don’t you think that stores that have full bins of shelled peanuts for bulk purchase would have been shut down by now because of the risk of exposure from dust & off gassing? It’s ingestion of the peanuts & oils that have kills people. It has not ever been casual exposure.

Also, since some people are quoting this hyper dramatic article where a teenage girl sadly died from peanut exposure, here is some perspective from the article in question:

A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her
boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital
officials said Monday.

Direct ingestion of peanuts is what sadly killed her. Is this original poster making out with his co-worker? Pretty confident that is not the case. Casual exposure is not a death risk.

I stand by my original theory that there is something else at play with the interactions between the original poster & their co-worker. Yes, the co-worker has an allergy, but their reaction is so over-reactive to what happened it doesn’t ring as the true root of that reaction.

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answered May 13 '14 at 3:50

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What should I have said? I said I was the one with the peanut butter
and asked if there was anything I should know, to which he replied "it
could kill me".

That sounds like a massive overreaction. It sounds to me like something else is happening between you two. I have worked in multiple workplaces with folks who have various allergies & I assure you 100% nobody reacted the way you described to you simply eating a peanut butter sandwich.

For example, I have dog & cat hair allergies. Yet I have worked in offices with dogs & cats with no issue. Nothing formal, just would let people know I had an allergy & that was it.

Our department has pizza every now & then. Doughnuts as well. And someone who shared spaced with us had gluten allergies. We didn’t have to scrub every surface after every time we brought stuff in.

I genuinely think your co-worker is honest about their allergy. But their description of you basically having to create a “clean room” after each meal is just too extreme. I would try to talk to them & see if maybe you having separate utensils would help. And if they are resistant? Like I said at the beginning, something else is happening in their work relationship to you that might be causing a passive-aggresive over-reaction to this incident.

And here is an excerpt from Wikipedia—the full article has citations—that spells it out clearer:

While the most obvious and dangerous route for an allergic individual
is unintentional ingestion, some reactions are possible through
external exposure. Airborne particles in a farm- or factory-scale
shelling or crushing environment, or from cooking, can produce
respiratory effects in exposed allergic individuals. Empirical testing
has discredited some reports of this type and shown some to be
exaggerated. Residue on surfaces has been known to cause minor skin
rashes, though not anaphylaxis. In The Peanut Allergy Answer Book,
Harvard pediatrician Michael Young characterizes this secondary
contact risk to allergic individuals as rare and limited to minor
symptoms. Some reactions have been noted to be psychogenic in nature,
the result of conditioning and belief rather than a true chemical
reaction. Blinded, placebo-controlled studies by Sicherer et al. were
unable to produce any reactions using the odor of peanut butter or its
mere proximity.

If peanuts were so deadly that simply breathing the air a jar of peanut butter was opened could kill you don’t you think there would be more deaths? Don’t you think that stores that have full bins of shelled peanuts for bulk purchase would have been shut down by now because of the risk of exposure from dust & off gassing? It’s ingestion of the peanuts & oils that have kills people. It has not ever been casual exposure.

Also, since some people are quoting this hyper dramatic article where a teenage girl sadly died from peanut exposure, here is some perspective from the article in question:

A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her
boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital
officials said Monday.

Direct ingestion of peanuts is what sadly killed her. Is this original poster making out with his co-worker? Pretty confident that is not the case. Casual exposure is not a death risk.

I stand by my original theory that there is something else at play with the interactions between the original poster & their co-worker. Yes, the co-worker has an allergy, but their reaction is so over-reactive to what happened it doesn’t ring as the true root of that reaction.

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  As someone who has a life-threatening allergy to peanuts, I feel it is important for me to note that this answer is quite incorrect. Environmental allergies are an entirely different beast than food (environmental allergies are rarely, if ever, capable of killing someone), and thus a poor analogy. Also, there are people who have "airborne anaphylactic" allergies, where the presence of peanut dust can trigger a reaction. (Don't have a source on-hand right now... sorry) This was unheard-of several years ago, yet is becoming more common with time (anecdotally). (cont)
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  As someone who has a life-threatening allergy to peanuts, I feel it is important for me to note that this answer is quite incorrect. Environmental allergies are an entirely different beast than food (environmental allergies are rarely, if ever, capable of killing someone), and thus a poor analogy. Also, there are people who have "airborne anaphylactic" allergies, where the presence of peanut dust can trigger a reaction. (Don't have a source on-hand right now... sorry) This was unheard-of several years ago, yet is becoming more common with time (anecdotally). (cont)
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  Lastly, re: your statement that "something more is going on:" my typical first response to "what happens when you eat a peanut?" is "I die." Opening in that way is perfectly honest, and also conveys the sense of urgency and importance that the situation requires. Saying "it could kill me" is not antagonistic, but is a simple statement of fact. It's not over-reactive, given that trace amounts of peanut can trigger an allergy (e.g. you get some peanut butter on a table that I don't see, I get it on my apple and ingest it), but an attempt to bring the attention to this issue that it deserves.
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As someone who has a life-threatening allergy to peanuts, I feel it is important for me to note that this answer is quite incorrect. Environmental allergies are an entirely different beast than food (environmental allergies are rarely, if ever, capable of killing someone), and thus a poor analogy. Also, there are people who have "airborne anaphylactic" allergies, where the presence of peanut dust can trigger a reaction. (Don't have a source on-hand right now... sorry) This was unheard-of several years ago, yet is becoming more common with time (anecdotally). (cont)
– apnorton
Sep 25 '14 at 21:53

As someone who has a life-threatening allergy to peanuts, I feel it is important for me to note that this answer is quite incorrect. Environmental allergies are an entirely different beast than food (environmental allergies are rarely, if ever, capable of killing someone), and thus a poor analogy. Also, there are people who have "airborne anaphylactic" allergies, where the presence of peanut dust can trigger a reaction. (Don't have a source on-hand right now... sorry) This was unheard-of several years ago, yet is becoming more common with time (anecdotally). (cont)
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– apnorton
Sep 25 '14 at 21:57

Lastly, re: your statement that "something more is going on:" my typical first response to "what happens when you eat a peanut?" is "I die." Opening in that way is perfectly honest, and also conveys the sense of urgency and importance that the situation requires. Saying "it could kill me" is not antagonistic, but is a simple statement of fact. It's not over-reactive, given that trace amounts of peanut can trigger an allergy (e.g. you get some peanut butter on a table that I don't see, I get it on my apple and ingest it), but an attempt to bring the attention to this issue that it deserves.
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No harm, no foul, you didn't know, etc. this time. Now that you have been informed, I'd strongly suggest avoiding bringing peanuts into the office.

Independent of the questions of lethality or non-lethality: If you know the scent of something makes a co-worker nauseous at the very least (and that is not an uncommon reaction for allergics to find themselves conditioned into), it is polite to avoid subjecting them to it. And peanuts are fairly aromatic; it's just that most of us don't have reason to be sensitive to them.

Whether "tree nuts" are also included in the ban, or conversely whether other legumes are and to what degree... Ask the person who reacts badly for advice. There are several different proteins in peanuts that people can develop allergies/intolerances to. One is shared with many (not all) tree nuts; I know someone who has that particular sensitivity. Other folks may react to something else.

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No harm, no foul, you didn't know, etc. this time. Now that you have been informed, I'd strongly suggest avoiding bringing peanuts into the office.

Independent of the questions of lethality or non-lethality: If you know the scent of something makes a co-worker nauseous at the very least (and that is not an uncommon reaction for allergics to find themselves conditioned into), it is polite to avoid subjecting them to it. And peanuts are fairly aromatic; it's just that most of us don't have reason to be sensitive to them.

Whether "tree nuts" are also included in the ban, or conversely whether other legumes are and to what degree... Ask the person who reacts badly for advice. There are several different proteins in peanuts that people can develop allergies/intolerances to. One is shared with many (not all) tree nuts; I know someone who has that particular sensitivity. Other folks may react to something else.

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No harm, no foul, you didn't know, etc. this time. Now that you have been informed, I'd strongly suggest avoiding bringing peanuts into the office.

Independent of the questions of lethality or non-lethality: If you know the scent of something makes a co-worker nauseous at the very least (and that is not an uncommon reaction for allergics to find themselves conditioned into), it is polite to avoid subjecting them to it. And peanuts are fairly aromatic; it's just that most of us don't have reason to be sensitive to them.

Whether "tree nuts" are also included in the ban, or conversely whether other legumes are and to what degree... Ask the person who reacts badly for advice. There are several different proteins in peanuts that people can develop allergies/intolerances to. One is shared with many (not all) tree nuts; I know someone who has that particular sensitivity. Other folks may react to something else.

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No harm, no foul, you didn't know, etc. this time. Now that you have been informed, I'd strongly suggest avoiding bringing peanuts into the office.

Independent of the questions of lethality or non-lethality: If you know the scent of something makes a co-worker nauseous at the very least (and that is not an uncommon reaction for allergics to find themselves conditioned into), it is polite to avoid subjecting them to it. And peanuts are fairly aromatic; it's just that most of us don't have reason to be sensitive to them.

Whether "tree nuts" are also included in the ban, or conversely whether other legumes are and to what degree... Ask the person who reacts badly for advice. There are several different proteins in peanuts that people can develop allergies/intolerances to. One is shared with many (not all) tree nuts; I know someone who has that particular sensitivity. Other folks may react to something else.

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In situations like this, where the type of reaction has the possibility of being deadly, it seems to me that the best course of action is an over abundance of caution.

Forgoing a PB sandwich while at work is a far smaller inconvenience than the possibility of causing discomfort (or worse) to the coworker.

So the choice here should be clear on what to do from a social perspective. The original email sounds to me like they where trying to leave it up to the employees to make the adult decision, which is to leave the PB at home while not trying to sound authoritarian.

Just do the right thing.

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In situations like this, where the type of reaction has the possibility of being deadly, it seems to me that the best course of action is an over abundance of caution.

Forgoing a PB sandwich while at work is a far smaller inconvenience than the possibility of causing discomfort (or worse) to the coworker.

So the choice here should be clear on what to do from a social perspective. The original email sounds to me like they where trying to leave it up to the employees to make the adult decision, which is to leave the PB at home while not trying to sound authoritarian.

Just do the right thing.

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In situations like this, where the type of reaction has the possibility of being deadly, it seems to me that the best course of action is an over abundance of caution.

Forgoing a PB sandwich while at work is a far smaller inconvenience than the possibility of causing discomfort (or worse) to the coworker.

So the choice here should be clear on what to do from a social perspective. The original email sounds to me like they where trying to leave it up to the employees to make the adult decision, which is to leave the PB at home while not trying to sound authoritarian.

Just do the right thing.

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In situations like this, where the type of reaction has the possibility of being deadly, it seems to me that the best course of action is an over abundance of caution.

Forgoing a PB sandwich while at work is a far smaller inconvenience than the possibility of causing discomfort (or worse) to the coworker.

So the choice here should be clear on what to do from a social perspective. The original email sounds to me like they where trying to leave it up to the employees to make the adult decision, which is to leave the PB at home while not trying to sound authoritarian.

Just do the right thing.

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Based on your comment "this is my first week, but does it matter?" it is clear that you are the new member of the team. Therefore you need to ask your boss questions to determine what is the scope of the problem and what should you do.

Food allergies can range from inconsequential with no way for a person consuming the food to impact the allergy sufferer; to deadly where somebody consuming or cooking the food near them can cause a problem. We can't guess where they fall in this spectrum.

Because this is an issue that has existed for a while, others know what to do. The company and the employee have reached an understanding. It is possible that the employee has not been revealed to other employees, so start with your supervisor. They may give specific guidelines, or direct you to HR, or even to the person with the allergy. Their answer may even depend on how likely you are to interact with the individual.

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Based on your comment "this is my first week, but does it matter?" it is clear that you are the new member of the team. Therefore you need to ask your boss questions to determine what is the scope of the problem and what should you do.

Food allergies can range from inconsequential with no way for a person consuming the food to impact the allergy sufferer; to deadly where somebody consuming or cooking the food near them can cause a problem. We can't guess where they fall in this spectrum.

Because this is an issue that has existed for a while, others know what to do. The company and the employee have reached an understanding. It is possible that the employee has not been revealed to other employees, so start with your supervisor. They may give specific guidelines, or direct you to HR, or even to the person with the allergy. Their answer may even depend on how likely you are to interact with the individual.

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Based on your comment "this is my first week, but does it matter?" it is clear that you are the new member of the team. Therefore you need to ask your boss questions to determine what is the scope of the problem and what should you do.

Food allergies can range from inconsequential with no way for a person consuming the food to impact the allergy sufferer; to deadly where somebody consuming or cooking the food near them can cause a problem. We can't guess where they fall in this spectrum.

Because this is an issue that has existed for a while, others know what to do. The company and the employee have reached an understanding. It is possible that the employee has not been revealed to other employees, so start with your supervisor. They may give specific guidelines, or direct you to HR, or even to the person with the allergy. Their answer may even depend on how likely you are to interact with the individual.

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Based on your comment "this is my first week, but does it matter?" it is clear that you are the new member of the team. Therefore you need to ask your boss questions to determine what is the scope of the problem and what should you do.

Food allergies can range from inconsequential with no way for a person consuming the food to impact the allergy sufferer; to deadly where somebody consuming or cooking the food near them can cause a problem. We can't guess where they fall in this spectrum.

Because this is an issue that has existed for a while, others know what to do. The company and the employee have reached an understanding. It is possible that the employee has not been revealed to other employees, so start with your supervisor. They may give specific guidelines, or direct you to HR, or even to the person with the allergy. Their answer may even depend on how likely you are to interact with the individual.

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How should I accommodate a coworker who has a peanut butter allergy?

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m
not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts
like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the
individual?

If you really want to accommodate your coworker, you should leave the peanut butter at home. You should also consult your allergic coworker as to the impact of other nuts and act accordingly.

If you instead want to find out "Am I allowed to eat what I want even if it could kill one of my coworkers?" you should consult HR. They probably have a protocol which covers such a situation. (Or if not, they should.)

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How should I accommodate a coworker who has a peanut butter allergy?

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m
not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts
like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the
individual?

If you really want to accommodate your coworker, you should leave the peanut butter at home. You should also consult your allergic coworker as to the impact of other nuts and act accordingly.

If you instead want to find out "Am I allowed to eat what I want even if it could kill one of my coworkers?" you should consult HR. They probably have a protocol which covers such a situation. (Or if not, they should.)

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answered Nov 9 '14 at 21:55

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How should I accommodate a coworker who has a peanut butter allergy?

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m
not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts
like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the
individual?

If you really want to accommodate your coworker, you should leave the peanut butter at home. You should also consult your allergic coworker as to the impact of other nuts and act accordingly.

If you instead want to find out "Am I allowed to eat what I want even if it could kill one of my coworkers?" you should consult HR. They probably have a protocol which covers such a situation. (Or if not, they should.)

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answered Nov 9 '14 at 21:55

Joe Strazzere

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How should I accommodate a coworker who has a peanut butter allergy?

I just want someone to say I’m allowed to have peanut butter or I’m
not allowed to have peanut butter. Other than peanuts I eat other nuts
like almonds. Who should I consult? My boss, the secretary or the
individual?

If you really want to accommodate your coworker, you should leave the peanut butter at home. You should also consult your allergic coworker as to the impact of other nuts and act accordingly.

If you instead want to find out "Am I allowed to eat what I want even if it could kill one of my coworkers?" you should consult HR. They probably have a protocol which covers such a situation. (Or if not, they should.)

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answered Nov 9 '14 at 21:55

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In terms of company policy, HR or legal would be the best place to ask. In severe cases, the employer could be at fault. For example:

Conflicts over work-related irritants and allergens can end up in court. Last July, Susan McBride, who works in the planning department of the City of Detroit, sued the city in United States District Court for violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Ms. McBride, her lawsuit says, suffers from severe migraines, dizziness, nausea, earaches and sinus and breathing problems when exposed to strong scents, and she regularly became ill at work when a colleague arrived wearing perfume. The colleague refused to stop spritzing (though she did agree to unplug an air freshener) and the women's bosses refused to ban scents in the office.

The employee with allergies may be able to request accommodations based on the state or local law:

The ADA helps people with asthma and allergies create safer, healthier environments where they work, shop and eat. It also helps people who attend public schools and non-religious private schools, even if those schools do not receive federal funding. For example, a private preschool may have to allow a child to use a quick-relief asthma inhaler during the day. Or, a company cannot refuse to hire a qualified person with food allergies because they may have to make the lunchroom allergy friendly.

References

• Sickened by the Office (Really)




• Are Asthma and Allergies Disabilities

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In terms of company policy, HR or legal would be the best place to ask. In severe cases, the employer could be at fault. For example:

Conflicts over work-related irritants and allergens can end up in court. Last July, Susan McBride, who works in the planning department of the City of Detroit, sued the city in United States District Court for violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Ms. McBride, her lawsuit says, suffers from severe migraines, dizziness, nausea, earaches and sinus and breathing problems when exposed to strong scents, and she regularly became ill at work when a colleague arrived wearing perfume. The colleague refused to stop spritzing (though she did agree to unplug an air freshener) and the women's bosses refused to ban scents in the office.

The employee with allergies may be able to request accommodations based on the state or local law:

The ADA helps people with asthma and allergies create safer, healthier environments where they work, shop and eat. It also helps people who attend public schools and non-religious private schools, even if those schools do not receive federal funding. For example, a private preschool may have to allow a child to use a quick-relief asthma inhaler during the day. Or, a company cannot refuse to hire a qualified person with food allergies because they may have to make the lunchroom allergy friendly.

References

• Sickened by the Office (Really)




• Are Asthma and Allergies Disabilities

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answered Apr 17 at 14:34

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In terms of company policy, HR or legal would be the best place to ask. In severe cases, the employer could be at fault. For example:

Conflicts over work-related irritants and allergens can end up in court. Last July, Susan McBride, who works in the planning department of the City of Detroit, sued the city in United States District Court for violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Ms. McBride, her lawsuit says, suffers from severe migraines, dizziness, nausea, earaches and sinus and breathing problems when exposed to strong scents, and she regularly became ill at work when a colleague arrived wearing perfume. The colleague refused to stop spritzing (though she did agree to unplug an air freshener) and the women's bosses refused to ban scents in the office.

The employee with allergies may be able to request accommodations based on the state or local law:

The ADA helps people with asthma and allergies create safer, healthier environments where they work, shop and eat. It also helps people who attend public schools and non-religious private schools, even if those schools do not receive federal funding. For example, a private preschool may have to allow a child to use a quick-relief asthma inhaler during the day. Or, a company cannot refuse to hire a qualified person with food allergies because they may have to make the lunchroom allergy friendly.

References

• Sickened by the Office (Really)




• Are Asthma and Allergies Disabilities

share|improve this answer

answered Apr 17 at 14:34

Paul Sweatte

20514

In terms of company policy, HR or legal would be the best place to ask. In severe cases, the employer could be at fault. For example:

Conflicts over work-related irritants and allergens can end up in court. Last July, Susan McBride, who works in the planning department of the City of Detroit, sued the city in United States District Court for violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Ms. McBride, her lawsuit says, suffers from severe migraines, dizziness, nausea, earaches and sinus and breathing problems when exposed to strong scents, and she regularly became ill at work when a colleague arrived wearing perfume. The colleague refused to stop spritzing (though she did agree to unplug an air freshener) and the women's bosses refused to ban scents in the office.

The employee with allergies may be able to request accommodations based on the state or local law:

The ADA helps people with asthma and allergies create safer, healthier environments where they work, shop and eat. It also helps people who attend public schools and non-religious private schools, even if those schools do not receive federal funding. For example, a private preschool may have to allow a child to use a quick-relief asthma inhaler during the day. Or, a company cannot refuse to hire a qualified person with food allergies because they may have to make the lunchroom allergy friendly.

References

• Sickened by the Office (Really)




• Are Asthma and Allergies Disabilities

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answered Apr 17 at 14:34

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answered Apr 17 at 14:34

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answered Apr 17 at 14:34

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answered Apr 17 at 14:34

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It's important for everyone, especially those with potentially fatal food allergies, to weed out and penalize the "drama queens" who exaggerate allergies and other conditions either for attention or just to bully. There is a lot of cynism about food allergies precisely because the average person probably runs into 20 drama queens for every real person at risk. This cry wolf phenomenon is very dangerous to the people actually beset by wolves.

It's pretty easy to tell how serious a person's allergies are. People with with serious allergies carry epipens If a person doesn't, then they don't really think they have a potentially fatal allergy.

Few things in life are more frightening than the idea that almost anything you encounter could be covered in an invisible poison that could kill you horribly in minutes. It kind of seizes your attention. People with real, potentially fatal allergies just don't screw around, they carry the technology that will keep them alive.

If someone doesn't, then they aren't that afraid.

I pretty sure that under US law, any company with more than 50 employees will have to have to identify people at risk and have an emergency plan in place to deal with them coming in contact with an allergen, just like they do with diabetics and other people with sudden onset health issues. That will include epipens in all first aid kits as well as personnel trained and assigned to their use and aware of which individuals will may need care.

The steps suggested in the email are actually not sufficient to protect a person with severe peanut allergies. People have died from coming into contact with the dust from crushed peanuts in an discarded candy bar that rolled under a desk. Likewise, you could kill them just by shaking hands after having eaten anything with peanuts hours before.

The only real protection is not trying to remove all peanut proteins from an area, an impossible task because they are a common food, but to prepare for the certain eventuality that they the allergic will come in contact and have an attack.

In a severe attack, you will have as little as 4 minutes to understand what is going on and administer the epiniphrine. If your not prepared to respond before the attack occurs, you probably won't make it.

Your employer should require the at risk employee to carry an epipen at all times as well as make sure that the employee is identified to at least several members of management (so someone onsite will always know) and any designated onsite first responders (which you should have in every work place.)
Likewise, if the allergy is not severe, then the employee in question needs education on how they endanger others by crying wolf, not to mention the corrosive effects such behavior has on team cohesion.

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answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

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  this doesn't seem to offer anything anything substantial over two top voted answers posted a day ago
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  +1 for explicitly mentioning epipens. Disagree with your characterization of "drama queens", though. And I am uncomfortable with your 7x24 readiness to accuse people of "crying wolf".
  – Vietnhi Phuvan
  May 15 '14 at 0:02
  
  

  
  
  
  

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up vote
-2
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It's important for everyone, especially those with potentially fatal food allergies, to weed out and penalize the "drama queens" who exaggerate allergies and other conditions either for attention or just to bully. There is a lot of cynism about food allergies precisely because the average person probably runs into 20 drama queens for every real person at risk. This cry wolf phenomenon is very dangerous to the people actually beset by wolves.

It's pretty easy to tell how serious a person's allergies are. People with with serious allergies carry epipens If a person doesn't, then they don't really think they have a potentially fatal allergy.

Few things in life are more frightening than the idea that almost anything you encounter could be covered in an invisible poison that could kill you horribly in minutes. It kind of seizes your attention. People with real, potentially fatal allergies just don't screw around, they carry the technology that will keep them alive.

If someone doesn't, then they aren't that afraid.

I pretty sure that under US law, any company with more than 50 employees will have to have to identify people at risk and have an emergency plan in place to deal with them coming in contact with an allergen, just like they do with diabetics and other people with sudden onset health issues. That will include epipens in all first aid kits as well as personnel trained and assigned to their use and aware of which individuals will may need care.

The steps suggested in the email are actually not sufficient to protect a person with severe peanut allergies. People have died from coming into contact with the dust from crushed peanuts in an discarded candy bar that rolled under a desk. Likewise, you could kill them just by shaking hands after having eaten anything with peanuts hours before.

The only real protection is not trying to remove all peanut proteins from an area, an impossible task because they are a common food, but to prepare for the certain eventuality that they the allergic will come in contact and have an attack.

In a severe attack, you will have as little as 4 minutes to understand what is going on and administer the epiniphrine. If your not prepared to respond before the attack occurs, you probably won't make it.

Your employer should require the at risk employee to carry an epipen at all times as well as make sure that the employee is identified to at least several members of management (so someone onsite will always know) and any designated onsite first responders (which you should have in every work place.)
Likewise, if the allergy is not severe, then the employee in question needs education on how they endanger others by crying wolf, not to mention the corrosive effects such behavior has on team cohesion.

share|improve this answer

answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

47334

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  this doesn't seem to offer anything anything substantial over two top voted answers posted a day ago
  – gnat
  May 14 '14 at 13:33
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  +1 for explicitly mentioning epipens. Disagree with your characterization of "drama queens", though. And I am uncomfortable with your 7x24 readiness to accuse people of "crying wolf".
  – Vietnhi Phuvan
  May 15 '14 at 0:02
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
-2
down vote

up vote
-2
down vote

It's important for everyone, especially those with potentially fatal food allergies, to weed out and penalize the "drama queens" who exaggerate allergies and other conditions either for attention or just to bully. There is a lot of cynism about food allergies precisely because the average person probably runs into 20 drama queens for every real person at risk. This cry wolf phenomenon is very dangerous to the people actually beset by wolves.

It's pretty easy to tell how serious a person's allergies are. People with with serious allergies carry epipens If a person doesn't, then they don't really think they have a potentially fatal allergy.

Few things in life are more frightening than the idea that almost anything you encounter could be covered in an invisible poison that could kill you horribly in minutes. It kind of seizes your attention. People with real, potentially fatal allergies just don't screw around, they carry the technology that will keep them alive.

If someone doesn't, then they aren't that afraid.

I pretty sure that under US law, any company with more than 50 employees will have to have to identify people at risk and have an emergency plan in place to deal with them coming in contact with an allergen, just like they do with diabetics and other people with sudden onset health issues. That will include epipens in all first aid kits as well as personnel trained and assigned to their use and aware of which individuals will may need care.

The steps suggested in the email are actually not sufficient to protect a person with severe peanut allergies. People have died from coming into contact with the dust from crushed peanuts in an discarded candy bar that rolled under a desk. Likewise, you could kill them just by shaking hands after having eaten anything with peanuts hours before.

The only real protection is not trying to remove all peanut proteins from an area, an impossible task because they are a common food, but to prepare for the certain eventuality that they the allergic will come in contact and have an attack.

In a severe attack, you will have as little as 4 minutes to understand what is going on and administer the epiniphrine. If your not prepared to respond before the attack occurs, you probably won't make it.

Your employer should require the at risk employee to carry an epipen at all times as well as make sure that the employee is identified to at least several members of management (so someone onsite will always know) and any designated onsite first responders (which you should have in every work place.)
Likewise, if the allergy is not severe, then the employee in question needs education on how they endanger others by crying wolf, not to mention the corrosive effects such behavior has on team cohesion.

share|improve this answer

answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

47334

It's important for everyone, especially those with potentially fatal food allergies, to weed out and penalize the "drama queens" who exaggerate allergies and other conditions either for attention or just to bully. There is a lot of cynism about food allergies precisely because the average person probably runs into 20 drama queens for every real person at risk. This cry wolf phenomenon is very dangerous to the people actually beset by wolves.

It's pretty easy to tell how serious a person's allergies are. People with with serious allergies carry epipens If a person doesn't, then they don't really think they have a potentially fatal allergy.

Few things in life are more frightening than the idea that almost anything you encounter could be covered in an invisible poison that could kill you horribly in minutes. It kind of seizes your attention. People with real, potentially fatal allergies just don't screw around, they carry the technology that will keep them alive.

If someone doesn't, then they aren't that afraid.

I pretty sure that under US law, any company with more than 50 employees will have to have to identify people at risk and have an emergency plan in place to deal with them coming in contact with an allergen, just like they do with diabetics and other people with sudden onset health issues. That will include epipens in all first aid kits as well as personnel trained and assigned to their use and aware of which individuals will may need care.

The steps suggested in the email are actually not sufficient to protect a person with severe peanut allergies. People have died from coming into contact with the dust from crushed peanuts in an discarded candy bar that rolled under a desk. Likewise, you could kill them just by shaking hands after having eaten anything with peanuts hours before.

The only real protection is not trying to remove all peanut proteins from an area, an impossible task because they are a common food, but to prepare for the certain eventuality that they the allergic will come in contact and have an attack.

In a severe attack, you will have as little as 4 minutes to understand what is going on and administer the epiniphrine. If your not prepared to respond before the attack occurs, you probably won't make it.

Your employer should require the at risk employee to carry an epipen at all times as well as make sure that the employee is identified to at least several members of management (so someone onsite will always know) and any designated onsite first responders (which you should have in every work place.)
Likewise, if the allergy is not severe, then the employee in question needs education on how they endanger others by crying wolf, not to mention the corrosive effects such behavior has on team cohesion.

share|improve this answer

answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

47334

share|improve this answer

share|improve this answer

answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

47334

answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

47334

answered May 14 '14 at 11:44

TechZen

47334

47334

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  this doesn't seem to offer anything anything substantial over two top voted answers posted a day ago
  – gnat
  May 14 '14 at 13:33
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  +1 for explicitly mentioning epipens. Disagree with your characterization of "drama queens", though. And I am uncomfortable with your 7x24 readiness to accuse people of "crying wolf".
  – Vietnhi Phuvan
  May 15 '14 at 0:02
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  this doesn't seem to offer anything anything substantial over two top voted answers posted a day ago
  – gnat
  May 14 '14 at 13:33
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  +1 for explicitly mentioning epipens. Disagree with your characterization of "drama queens", though. And I am uncomfortable with your 7x24 readiness to accuse people of "crying wolf".
  – Vietnhi Phuvan
  May 15 '14 at 0:02
  
  

  
  
  
  

1

1

this doesn't seem to offer anything anything substantial over two top voted answers posted a day ago
– gnat
May 14 '14 at 13:33

this doesn't seem to offer anything anything substantial over two top voted answers posted a day ago
– gnat
May 14 '14 at 13:33

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+1 for explicitly mentioning epipens. Disagree with your characterization of "drama queens", though. And I am uncomfortable with your 7x24 readiness to accuse people of "crying wolf".
– Vietnhi Phuvan
May 15 '14 at 0:02

+1 for explicitly mentioning epipens. Disagree with your characterization of "drama queens", though. And I am uncomfortable with your 7x24 readiness to accuse people of "crying wolf".
– Vietnhi Phuvan
May 15 '14 at 0:02

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