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Recently I was facing several situations where a colleague was expecting, or “figuring out†a problem that may arise in a process that is to be done and trying to solve it preliminarily although they could quite easily check that such a problem will not arise when they actually run the process. An online example: https://stackoverflow.com/q/38369438/711006
Is there a term for such an situation? Are there general instructions how to prevent it?
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asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
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closed as too broad by mhoran_psprep, Lilienthal♦, Chris E, panoptical, gnat Jul 14 '16 at 16:36
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Recently I was facing several situations where a colleague was expecting, or “figuring out†a problem that may arise in a process that is to be done and trying to solve it preliminarily although they could quite easily check that such a problem will not arise when they actually run the process. An online example: https://stackoverflow.com/q/38369438/711006
Is there a term for such an situation? Are there general instructions how to prevent it?
productivity
asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
Melebius
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closed as too broad by mhoran_psprep, Lilienthal♦, Chris E, panoptical, gnat Jul 14 '16 at 16:36
Please edit the question to limit it to a specific problem with enough detail to identify an adequate answer. Avoid asking multiple distinct questions at once. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
@JoeStrazzere I am mostly interested in the systematic description and instructions to prevent such situations. I am only asking for the term because it is the way to find them easier.
– Melebius
Jul 14 '16 at 10:15
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There arent any, since People go to their Manager explaining their concern about how Person x spending his time or not at all. Other than this tell the Person in question nicely dont try to fix things which arent broken.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:09
Maybe you are looking for the phrase "overly cautious". e.g. My colleague was being overly cautious. He thought there would be a problem, but it turns out there was nothing to worry about.
– Brandin
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
Is it impacting his performance?
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 16:24
This question is hard to understand. Perhaps you can re-word it a little. Basically a co-worker is working on a perceived problem by first demonstrating it - however remote that problem can occur. You feel that you can avoid such a problem altogether by ensuring your program only accepts the right problem. Overall its a broad question and more of a opinion on best approaches.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:48
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Recently I was facing several situations where a colleague was expecting, or “figuring out†a problem that may arise in a process that is to be done and trying to solve it preliminarily although they could quite easily check that such a problem will not arise when they actually run the process. An online example: https://stackoverflow.com/q/38369438/711006
Is there a term for such an situation? Are there general instructions how to prevent it?
productivity
asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
Melebius
983
Recently I was facing several situations where a colleague was expecting, or “figuring out†a problem that may arise in a process that is to be done and trying to solve it preliminarily although they could quite easily check that such a problem will not arise when they actually run the process. An online example: https://stackoverflow.com/q/38369438/711006
Is there a term for such an situation? Are there general instructions how to prevent it?
productivity
asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
Melebius
983
asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
Melebius
983
asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
Melebius
983
asked Jul 14 '16 at 9:48
Melebius
983
983
closed as too broad by mhoran_psprep, Lilienthal♦, Chris E, panoptical, gnat Jul 14 '16 at 16:36
Please edit the question to limit it to a specific problem with enough detail to identify an adequate answer. Avoid asking multiple distinct questions at once. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
closed as too broad by mhoran_psprep, Lilienthal♦, Chris E, panoptical, gnat Jul 14 '16 at 16:36
Please edit the question to limit it to a specific problem with enough detail to identify an adequate answer. Avoid asking multiple distinct questions at once. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
@JoeStrazzere I am mostly interested in the systematic description and instructions to prevent such situations. I am only asking for the term because it is the way to find them easier.
– Melebius
Jul 14 '16 at 10:15
1
There arent any, since People go to their Manager explaining their concern about how Person x spending his time or not at all. Other than this tell the Person in question nicely dont try to fix things which arent broken.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:09
Maybe you are looking for the phrase "overly cautious". e.g. My colleague was being overly cautious. He thought there would be a problem, but it turns out there was nothing to worry about.
– Brandin
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
Is it impacting his performance?
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 16:24
This question is hard to understand. Perhaps you can re-word it a little. Basically a co-worker is working on a perceived problem by first demonstrating it - however remote that problem can occur. You feel that you can avoid such a problem altogether by ensuring your program only accepts the right problem. Overall its a broad question and more of a opinion on best approaches.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:48
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@JoeStrazzere I am mostly interested in the systematic description and instructions to prevent such situations. I am only asking for the term because it is the way to find them easier.
– Melebius
Jul 14 '16 at 10:15
1
There arent any, since People go to their Manager explaining their concern about how Person x spending his time or not at all. Other than this tell the Person in question nicely dont try to fix things which arent broken.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:09
Maybe you are looking for the phrase "overly cautious". e.g. My colleague was being overly cautious. He thought there would be a problem, but it turns out there was nothing to worry about.
– Brandin
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
Is it impacting his performance?
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 16:24
This question is hard to understand. Perhaps you can re-word it a little. Basically a co-worker is working on a perceived problem by first demonstrating it - however remote that problem can occur. You feel that you can avoid such a problem altogether by ensuring your program only accepts the right problem. Overall its a broad question and more of a opinion on best approaches.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:48
@JoeStrazzere I am mostly interested in the systematic description and instructions to prevent such situations. I am only asking for the term because it is the way to find them easier.
– Melebius
Jul 14 '16 at 10:15
@JoeStrazzere I am mostly interested in the systematic description and instructions to prevent such situations. I am only asking for the term because it is the way to find them easier.
– Melebius
Jul 14 '16 at 10:15
1
1
There arent any, since People go to their Manager explaining their concern about how Person x spending his time or not at all. Other than this tell the Person in question nicely dont try to fix things which arent broken.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:09
There arent any, since People go to their Manager explaining their concern about how Person x spending his time or not at all. Other than this tell the Person in question nicely dont try to fix things which arent broken.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:09
Maybe you are looking for the phrase "overly cautious". e.g. My colleague was being overly cautious. He thought there would be a problem, but it turns out there was nothing to worry about.
– Brandin
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
Maybe you are looking for the phrase "overly cautious". e.g. My colleague was being overly cautious. He thought there would be a problem, but it turns out there was nothing to worry about.
– Brandin
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
Is it impacting his performance?
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 16:24
Is it impacting his performance?
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 16:24
This question is hard to understand. Perhaps you can re-word it a little. Basically a co-worker is working on a perceived problem by first demonstrating it - however remote that problem can occur. You feel that you can avoid such a problem altogether by ensuring your program only accepts the right problem. Overall its a broad question and more of a opinion on best approaches.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:48
This question is hard to understand. Perhaps you can re-word it a little. Basically a co-worker is working on a perceived problem by first demonstrating it - however remote that problem can occur. You feel that you can avoid such a problem altogether by ensuring your program only accepts the right problem. Overall its a broad question and more of a opinion on best approaches.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:48
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I would say that that is a very valuable activity, and the linked question (without going deeply into it) was a valid worry. With any system I design, or develop, I have to think about what happens if the process or program fails in a particular way, and what the system or code should do.
It can be overdone though. For example, if I'm writing a Trading System for some regulated commodity I don't worry about what will happen to the trades if the Trading Company using my software goes bust. (There are several things that have to happen to the Trades but they are not the concern of either me or the Trading Company.)
For the same system, it is totally legitimate for me to wonder about what should happen is e.g. a trade confirmation doesn't arrive in a reasonable time (process failure) or my code encounters an unexpected error trying to e.g. save data to the database (system failure: how to recover?), plus anything else I can foresee.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
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We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
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@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
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If it's not impacting his work, it's not a problem. Sometimes engaging in hypotheticals, even if unrealistic, inspires thought and action to solve real problems.
This is especially true in IT and any branch of engineering where you have to be half artist in order to solve problems. This involves creative distractions such as hypotheticals, listening to music, going for walks and other actions that make it appear to someone outside the field that you are not working.
That said, if your colleague is not delivering, then it's time to act, but if he is, it's best off to leave him alone.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
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I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
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Response depends on why the coworker is working on this task. If your manager assigned it then you need think no more about it. The coworker is doing what they are supposed to do even if you don't agree with some of their hypotheticals.
When I have done testing I always try and do the stupidest things I can think of. What happens if you click this button while holding down the shift key? What happens if I turn my computer off in the middle of a transaction? What happens if while using it I spill coffee on my keyboard and then wipe it off with a nonabsorbent towel? Whatever you can imagine some user is going to do so don't discount a test just because it does not seem likely.
If the coworker is not performing this work under manager orders, it should be quickly self correcting as he is asked why his real work is not being completed.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
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General way to discourage this sort of thing, is to give the person real work, with real deadlines to meet. Then they don't have time to make up hypothetical fantasy worlds.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
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I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
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I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
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I would say that that is a very valuable activity, and the linked question (without going deeply into it) was a valid worry. With any system I design, or develop, I have to think about what happens if the process or program fails in a particular way, and what the system or code should do.
It can be overdone though. For example, if I'm writing a Trading System for some regulated commodity I don't worry about what will happen to the trades if the Trading Company using my software goes bust. (There are several things that have to happen to the Trades but they are not the concern of either me or the Trading Company.)
For the same system, it is totally legitimate for me to wonder about what should happen is e.g. a trade confirmation doesn't arrive in a reasonable time (process failure) or my code encounters an unexpected error trying to e.g. save data to the database (system failure: how to recover?), plus anything else I can foresee.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
15414
1
We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
2
@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
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accepted
I would say that that is a very valuable activity, and the linked question (without going deeply into it) was a valid worry. With any system I design, or develop, I have to think about what happens if the process or program fails in a particular way, and what the system or code should do.
It can be overdone though. For example, if I'm writing a Trading System for some regulated commodity I don't worry about what will happen to the trades if the Trading Company using my software goes bust. (There are several things that have to happen to the Trades but they are not the concern of either me or the Trading Company.)
For the same system, it is totally legitimate for me to wonder about what should happen is e.g. a trade confirmation doesn't arrive in a reasonable time (process failure) or my code encounters an unexpected error trying to e.g. save data to the database (system failure: how to recover?), plus anything else I can foresee.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
15414
1
We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
2
@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
I would say that that is a very valuable activity, and the linked question (without going deeply into it) was a valid worry. With any system I design, or develop, I have to think about what happens if the process or program fails in a particular way, and what the system or code should do.
It can be overdone though. For example, if I'm writing a Trading System for some regulated commodity I don't worry about what will happen to the trades if the Trading Company using my software goes bust. (There are several things that have to happen to the Trades but they are not the concern of either me or the Trading Company.)
For the same system, it is totally legitimate for me to wonder about what should happen is e.g. a trade confirmation doesn't arrive in a reasonable time (process failure) or my code encounters an unexpected error trying to e.g. save data to the database (system failure: how to recover?), plus anything else I can foresee.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
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I would say that that is a very valuable activity, and the linked question (without going deeply into it) was a valid worry. With any system I design, or develop, I have to think about what happens if the process or program fails in a particular way, and what the system or code should do.
It can be overdone though. For example, if I'm writing a Trading System for some regulated commodity I don't worry about what will happen to the trades if the Trading Company using my software goes bust. (There are several things that have to happen to the Trades but they are not the concern of either me or the Trading Company.)
For the same system, it is totally legitimate for me to wonder about what should happen is e.g. a trade confirmation doesn't arrive in a reasonable time (process failure) or my code encounters an unexpected error trying to e.g. save data to the database (system failure: how to recover?), plus anything else I can foresee.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:30
simon at rcl
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15414
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We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
2
@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
suggest improvements |Â
1
We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
2
@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
1
1
We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
We used to call it "brainstorming" or "Staying ahead of issues"
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:46
2
2
@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
@RichardU: I used to have a colleague who hated the word 'brainstorming' for some reason. He was quite keen on having 'wide-ranging conversations' instead :)
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:49
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
LOL! Gotta love corporate speak. "We need to be proactive instead of reactive because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that if we move the goalposts back, we can create a new synergistic paradigm which will empower our employees to upskill and monetize our new corporate vision."
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 12:53
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/microspeak - Long-term Microsoftie blog (required reading for Windows Devs) filtered by entries about Microsoft corp-speak. Quite funny.
– simon at rcl
Jul 14 '16 at 12:56
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If it's not impacting his work, it's not a problem. Sometimes engaging in hypotheticals, even if unrealistic, inspires thought and action to solve real problems.
This is especially true in IT and any branch of engineering where you have to be half artist in order to solve problems. This involves creative distractions such as hypotheticals, listening to music, going for walks and other actions that make it appear to someone outside the field that you are not working.
That said, if your colleague is not delivering, then it's time to act, but if he is, it's best off to leave him alone.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
77.2k56200307
I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
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up vote
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If it's not impacting his work, it's not a problem. Sometimes engaging in hypotheticals, even if unrealistic, inspires thought and action to solve real problems.
This is especially true in IT and any branch of engineering where you have to be half artist in order to solve problems. This involves creative distractions such as hypotheticals, listening to music, going for walks and other actions that make it appear to someone outside the field that you are not working.
That said, if your colleague is not delivering, then it's time to act, but if he is, it's best off to leave him alone.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
77.2k56200307
I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
If it's not impacting his work, it's not a problem. Sometimes engaging in hypotheticals, even if unrealistic, inspires thought and action to solve real problems.
This is especially true in IT and any branch of engineering where you have to be half artist in order to solve problems. This involves creative distractions such as hypotheticals, listening to music, going for walks and other actions that make it appear to someone outside the field that you are not working.
That said, if your colleague is not delivering, then it's time to act, but if he is, it's best off to leave him alone.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
77.2k56200307
If it's not impacting his work, it's not a problem. Sometimes engaging in hypotheticals, even if unrealistic, inspires thought and action to solve real problems.
This is especially true in IT and any branch of engineering where you have to be half artist in order to solve problems. This involves creative distractions such as hypotheticals, listening to music, going for walks and other actions that make it appear to someone outside the field that you are not working.
That said, if your colleague is not delivering, then it's time to act, but if he is, it's best off to leave him alone.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
77.2k56200307
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
77.2k56200307
answered Jul 14 '16 at 12:28
Richard U
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I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
suggest improvements |Â
I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
I think it's a conflict of thought. The OP believes the problem could never exist and can be demonstrated by actually running the application. The co-worker believes that certain situations could arise, however remote it may be, without running the actual application. This sounds less of a problem within the workplace and more of a question on what is the best approach to problem solving.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:51
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Response depends on why the coworker is working on this task. If your manager assigned it then you need think no more about it. The coworker is doing what they are supposed to do even if you don't agree with some of their hypotheticals.
When I have done testing I always try and do the stupidest things I can think of. What happens if you click this button while holding down the shift key? What happens if I turn my computer off in the middle of a transaction? What happens if while using it I spill coffee on my keyboard and then wipe it off with a nonabsorbent towel? Whatever you can imagine some user is going to do so don't discount a test just because it does not seem likely.
If the coworker is not performing this work under manager orders, it should be quickly self correcting as he is asked why his real work is not being completed.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
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Response depends on why the coworker is working on this task. If your manager assigned it then you need think no more about it. The coworker is doing what they are supposed to do even if you don't agree with some of their hypotheticals.
When I have done testing I always try and do the stupidest things I can think of. What happens if you click this button while holding down the shift key? What happens if I turn my computer off in the middle of a transaction? What happens if while using it I spill coffee on my keyboard and then wipe it off with a nonabsorbent towel? Whatever you can imagine some user is going to do so don't discount a test just because it does not seem likely.
If the coworker is not performing this work under manager orders, it should be quickly self correcting as he is asked why his real work is not being completed.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
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Response depends on why the coworker is working on this task. If your manager assigned it then you need think no more about it. The coworker is doing what they are supposed to do even if you don't agree with some of their hypotheticals.
When I have done testing I always try and do the stupidest things I can think of. What happens if you click this button while holding down the shift key? What happens if I turn my computer off in the middle of a transaction? What happens if while using it I spill coffee on my keyboard and then wipe it off with a nonabsorbent towel? Whatever you can imagine some user is going to do so don't discount a test just because it does not seem likely.
If the coworker is not performing this work under manager orders, it should be quickly self correcting as he is asked why his real work is not being completed.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
JasonJ
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Response depends on why the coworker is working on this task. If your manager assigned it then you need think no more about it. The coworker is doing what they are supposed to do even if you don't agree with some of their hypotheticals.
When I have done testing I always try and do the stupidest things I can think of. What happens if you click this button while holding down the shift key? What happens if I turn my computer off in the middle of a transaction? What happens if while using it I spill coffee on my keyboard and then wipe it off with a nonabsorbent towel? Whatever you can imagine some user is going to do so don't discount a test just because it does not seem likely.
If the coworker is not performing this work under manager orders, it should be quickly self correcting as he is asked why his real work is not being completed.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
JasonJ
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
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answered Jul 14 '16 at 13:49
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General way to discourage this sort of thing, is to give the person real work, with real deadlines to meet. Then they don't have time to make up hypothetical fantasy worlds.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
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I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
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I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
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General way to discourage this sort of thing, is to give the person real work, with real deadlines to meet. Then they don't have time to make up hypothetical fantasy worlds.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
Kilisi
94.4k50216374
I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
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I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
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General way to discourage this sort of thing, is to give the person real work, with real deadlines to meet. Then they don't have time to make up hypothetical fantasy worlds.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
Kilisi
94.4k50216374
General way to discourage this sort of thing, is to give the person real work, with real deadlines to meet. Then they don't have time to make up hypothetical fantasy worlds.
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
Kilisi
94.4k50216374
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
Kilisi
94.4k50216374
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
Kilisi
94.4k50216374
answered Jul 14 '16 at 10:22
Kilisi
94.4k50216374
94.4k50216374
I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
1
I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
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I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
1
I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
I dont the op in question has the authority to give his colleague work.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:10
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
How do you know that? If he doesn't then it's not his problem what the colleague is doing, it's the managers
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:18
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
I doubt*, but i know that because he says colleague not one my Team members or someone under or I am his Manager ect :D
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:21
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
OP asked for a general answer, I gave one, whether he has the authority or not, that is a solution. He just has to work out how to accomplish it.
– Kilisi
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
1
1
I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
I disagree with the answer, but it is still a good answer. +1 Caveat: engaging in hypotheticals can be real work. I usually end up using the answers later.
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 13:12
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@JoeStrazzere I am mostly interested in the systematic description and instructions to prevent such situations. I am only asking for the term because it is the way to find them easier.
– Melebius
Jul 14 '16 at 10:15
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There arent any, since People go to their Manager explaining their concern about how Person x spending his time or not at all. Other than this tell the Person in question nicely dont try to fix things which arent broken.
– Raoul Mensink
Jul 14 '16 at 12:09
Maybe you are looking for the phrase "overly cautious". e.g. My colleague was being overly cautious. He thought there would be a problem, but it turns out there was nothing to worry about.
– Brandin
Jul 14 '16 at 12:24
Is it impacting his performance?
– Richard U
Jul 14 '16 at 16:24
This question is hard to understand. Perhaps you can re-word it a little. Basically a co-worker is working on a perceived problem by first demonstrating it - however remote that problem can occur. You feel that you can avoid such a problem altogether by ensuring your program only accepts the right problem. Overall its a broad question and more of a opinion on best approaches.
– Dan
Jul 14 '16 at 19:48