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Recently a U.S. employer told us not to skate(board) between buildings because they were liable for us. Is this true?
The buildings were leased by the employer from a single landlord. The space between the two buildings (e.g. parking lot, sidewalk, ...) is owned by the landlord.
When you walk on the landlord's property between two workplaces is the employer really liable? I thought this kind of liability was all state-by-state and covered by Worker's Compensation, not the liability of the employer...
work-time law
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
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closed as off-topic by The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat Sep 6 '16 at 5:11
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Recently a U.S. employer told us not to skate(board) between buildings because they were liable for us. Is this true?
The buildings were leased by the employer from a single landlord. The space between the two buildings (e.g. parking lot, sidewalk, ...) is owned by the landlord.
When you walk on the landlord's property between two workplaces is the employer really liable? I thought this kind of liability was all state-by-state and covered by Worker's Compensation, not the liability of the employer...
work-time law
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
user3533030
56525
closed as off-topic by The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat Sep 6 '16 at 5:11
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat
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Why do you Americans love lawyers so much?
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 20:48
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I guess i am lucky. The first thing we think about when had an accident in the UK is not a lawyer. Thar is way down the list
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
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Also - you do realise how ridiculous grown adults look when trying to look cool by skateboarding across flat car parks - maybe your company is trying to reduce the embarassment factor
– HorusKol
Sep 6 '16 at 0:46
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@HorusKol : Ridiculous but efficient. Kick scooters too, are efficient, they can divide by more than two your walking time without needing a shower at the arrival. For big business parks served by public transit only on one end, it can be a very wise investment. Even if ridiculous.
– gazzz0x2z
Sep 6 '16 at 12:15
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LIkely a lawyer did advise them to do that,lawyers tend to be conservative about these things for good reasons. However, whether it is actually illegal or not is a moot point. Why would you care? You have been told not to do it and if you do it, you are very liable to lose you job (given the lack of worker protections in the US) because they don't want to take on that risk. So why care if it is actually a legal issue for your employer? You are going to need to do it anyway.
– HLGEM
Sep 6 '16 at 17:46
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Recently a U.S. employer told us not to skate(board) between buildings because they were liable for us. Is this true?
The buildings were leased by the employer from a single landlord. The space between the two buildings (e.g. parking lot, sidewalk, ...) is owned by the landlord.
When you walk on the landlord's property between two workplaces is the employer really liable? I thought this kind of liability was all state-by-state and covered by Worker's Compensation, not the liability of the employer...
work-time law
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
user3533030
56525
Recently a U.S. employer told us not to skate(board) between buildings because they were liable for us. Is this true?
The buildings were leased by the employer from a single landlord. The space between the two buildings (e.g. parking lot, sidewalk, ...) is owned by the landlord.
When you walk on the landlord's property between two workplaces is the employer really liable? I thought this kind of liability was all state-by-state and covered by Worker's Compensation, not the liability of the employer...
work-time law
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
user3533030
56525
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
user3533030
56525
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
user3533030
56525
asked Sep 5 '16 at 20:42
user3533030
56525
56525
closed as off-topic by The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat Sep 6 '16 at 5:11
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat
closed as off-topic by The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat Sep 6 '16 at 5:11
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – The Wandering Dev Manager, Philip Kendall, PeteCon, HorusKol, gnat
2
Why do you Americans love lawyers so much?
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 20:48
1
I guess i am lucky. The first thing we think about when had an accident in the UK is not a lawyer. Thar is way down the list
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
2
Also - you do realise how ridiculous grown adults look when trying to look cool by skateboarding across flat car parks - maybe your company is trying to reduce the embarassment factor
– HorusKol
Sep 6 '16 at 0:46
1
@HorusKol : Ridiculous but efficient. Kick scooters too, are efficient, they can divide by more than two your walking time without needing a shower at the arrival. For big business parks served by public transit only on one end, it can be a very wise investment. Even if ridiculous.
– gazzz0x2z
Sep 6 '16 at 12:15
1
LIkely a lawyer did advise them to do that,lawyers tend to be conservative about these things for good reasons. However, whether it is actually illegal or not is a moot point. Why would you care? You have been told not to do it and if you do it, you are very liable to lose you job (given the lack of worker protections in the US) because they don't want to take on that risk. So why care if it is actually a legal issue for your employer? You are going to need to do it anyway.
– HLGEM
Sep 6 '16 at 17:46
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Why do you Americans love lawyers so much?
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 20:48
1
I guess i am lucky. The first thing we think about when had an accident in the UK is not a lawyer. Thar is way down the list
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
2
Also - you do realise how ridiculous grown adults look when trying to look cool by skateboarding across flat car parks - maybe your company is trying to reduce the embarassment factor
– HorusKol
Sep 6 '16 at 0:46
1
@HorusKol : Ridiculous but efficient. Kick scooters too, are efficient, they can divide by more than two your walking time without needing a shower at the arrival. For big business parks served by public transit only on one end, it can be a very wise investment. Even if ridiculous.
– gazzz0x2z
Sep 6 '16 at 12:15
1
LIkely a lawyer did advise them to do that,lawyers tend to be conservative about these things for good reasons. However, whether it is actually illegal or not is a moot point. Why would you care? You have been told not to do it and if you do it, you are very liable to lose you job (given the lack of worker protections in the US) because they don't want to take on that risk. So why care if it is actually a legal issue for your employer? You are going to need to do it anyway.
– HLGEM
Sep 6 '16 at 17:46
2
2
Why do you Americans love lawyers so much?
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 20:48
Why do you Americans love lawyers so much?
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 20:48
1
1
I guess i am lucky. The first thing we think about when had an accident in the UK is not a lawyer. Thar is way down the list
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I guess i am lucky. The first thing we think about when had an accident in the UK is not a lawyer. Thar is way down the list
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
2
2
Also - you do realise how ridiculous grown adults look when trying to look cool by skateboarding across flat car parks - maybe your company is trying to reduce the embarassment factor
– HorusKol
Sep 6 '16 at 0:46
Also - you do realise how ridiculous grown adults look when trying to look cool by skateboarding across flat car parks - maybe your company is trying to reduce the embarassment factor
– HorusKol
Sep 6 '16 at 0:46
1
1
@HorusKol : Ridiculous but efficient. Kick scooters too, are efficient, they can divide by more than two your walking time without needing a shower at the arrival. For big business parks served by public transit only on one end, it can be a very wise investment. Even if ridiculous.
– gazzz0x2z
Sep 6 '16 at 12:15
@HorusKol : Ridiculous but efficient. Kick scooters too, are efficient, they can divide by more than two your walking time without needing a shower at the arrival. For big business parks served by public transit only on one end, it can be a very wise investment. Even if ridiculous.
– gazzz0x2z
Sep 6 '16 at 12:15
1
1
LIkely a lawyer did advise them to do that,lawyers tend to be conservative about these things for good reasons. However, whether it is actually illegal or not is a moot point. Why would you care? You have been told not to do it and if you do it, you are very liable to lose you job (given the lack of worker protections in the US) because they don't want to take on that risk. So why care if it is actually a legal issue for your employer? You are going to need to do it anyway.
– HLGEM
Sep 6 '16 at 17:46
LIkely a lawyer did advise them to do that,lawyers tend to be conservative about these things for good reasons. However, whether it is actually illegal or not is a moot point. Why would you care? You have been told not to do it and if you do it, you are very liable to lose you job (given the lack of worker protections in the US) because they don't want to take on that risk. So why care if it is actually a legal issue for your employer? You are going to need to do it anyway.
– HLGEM
Sep 6 '16 at 17:46
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Injuries on their property are likely to be charged against their insurance, yes. At the very least it will cost them a lot in lawyer's time, and juries have a bad habit of trying to make everything the company's fault.
In any case it's their property, and them writing the paycheck. If you want to come into the former to earn the latter this is a particularly unwise argument to get into. Pick your battles,
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
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Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
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From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
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Injuries on their property are likely to be charged against their insurance, yes. At the very least it will cost them a lot in lawyer's time, and juries have a bad habit of trying to make everything the company's fault.
In any case it's their property, and them writing the paycheck. If you want to come into the former to earn the latter this is a particularly unwise argument to get into. Pick your battles,
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
4
From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
5
down vote
Injuries on their property are likely to be charged against their insurance, yes. At the very least it will cost them a lot in lawyer's time, and juries have a bad habit of trying to make everything the company's fault.
In any case it's their property, and them writing the paycheck. If you want to come into the former to earn the latter this is a particularly unwise argument to get into. Pick your battles,
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
4
From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
Injuries on their property are likely to be charged against their insurance, yes. At the very least it will cost them a lot in lawyer's time, and juries have a bad habit of trying to make everything the company's fault.
In any case it's their property, and them writing the paycheck. If you want to come into the former to earn the latter this is a particularly unwise argument to get into. Pick your battles,
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
Injuries on their property are likely to be charged against their insurance, yes. At the very least it will cost them a lot in lawyer's time, and juries have a bad habit of trying to make everything the company's fault.
In any case it's their property, and them writing the paycheck. If you want to come into the former to earn the latter this is a particularly unwise argument to get into. Pick your battles,
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
answered Sep 5 '16 at 20:53
keshlam
41.5k1267144
41.5k1267144
Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
4
From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
suggest improvements |Â
Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
4
From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Sounds like a pretty general, conventional wisdom answer, yet it flies in the face of the Workers Compensation descriptions on the web ( dir.ca.gov/dwc/InjuredWorker.htm and nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/…). I'll give up skating back and forth between offices. They can pay me to walk, but I still won't be able to sue them if I get run over in the parking long.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 21:07
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
Legal advice is off topic, consult someone trained to advise, not random international strangers on the Internet, voting to close.
– The Wandering Dev Manager
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
I'm not looking for an expert witness or a lawyer. That advice is typically far too conservative. That advice typically puts you in a situation to do the safest possible thing. The safest thing is typically not to engage in any business relationship at all. I'm looking or real advice from real people (HR, Executives, Insurance Agents, or employees with experience) as opposed to a lawyer telling me not to do anything or a lawyer telling me to sue everybody.
– user3533030
Sep 5 '16 at 22:02
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From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
From you comments, it looks like that you are looking for someone that tells you that you can do whatever you want. I am having a nice day, so here is my answer: You can do whatever pleases you most. If you get in trouble from that, do not forget to tell the other party that I told you that you could do whatever you wanted; that should solve any issue.
– SJuan76
Sep 5 '16 at 23:54
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
I found out more insight from my client. They said that Worker's Comprehensive insurance is provided by a private carrier. That means they care a lot about what you do because it costs them money. If it were purely a government run program, they wouldn't have much to say about what you do walking between buildings.
– user3533030
Sep 8 '16 at 16:30
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Why do you Americans love lawyers so much?
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 20:48
1
I guess i am lucky. The first thing we think about when had an accident in the UK is not a lawyer. Thar is way down the list
– Ed Heal
Sep 5 '16 at 21:14
2
Also - you do realise how ridiculous grown adults look when trying to look cool by skateboarding across flat car parks - maybe your company is trying to reduce the embarassment factor
– HorusKol
Sep 6 '16 at 0:46
1
@HorusKol : Ridiculous but efficient. Kick scooters too, are efficient, they can divide by more than two your walking time without needing a shower at the arrival. For big business parks served by public transit only on one end, it can be a very wise investment. Even if ridiculous.
– gazzz0x2z
Sep 6 '16 at 12:15
1
LIkely a lawyer did advise them to do that,lawyers tend to be conservative about these things for good reasons. However, whether it is actually illegal or not is a moot point. Why would you care? You have been told not to do it and if you do it, you are very liable to lose you job (given the lack of worker protections in the US) because they don't want to take on that risk. So why care if it is actually a legal issue for your employer? You are going to need to do it anyway.
– HLGEM
Sep 6 '16 at 17:46