why do resonant inductive coupling circuit operate at high frequencies?

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Just as the title says. Whenever I read a research paper on wireless power transfer via resonant inductive coupling the authors just mention frequencies that range in the kHz and Mhz range, but none of them explain why high frequencies must be used.










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  • in terms of electronics, kHz and MHz is hardly 'high frequencies'. In fact, in my field, that is all considered 'that DC rubbish we have to get rid of'.
    – Joren Vaes
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  • Can you please tell me why you don't use these low frequencies in your field? I am having a hard time understanding the advantages of high frequency...
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    That in-and-of-itself is a question I have literally written chapters of books about, and would be too broad for a stack exchange question. It mainly comes down to bandwidth and wavelength (and corresponding antenna size).
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Above 20 kHz has the advantage that it's mostly inaudible. Lower frequencies would make an annoying whine from the inductors. Listen to the 400/800 Hz tone on top of the cabin announcements in a plane.
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Just as the title says. Whenever I read a research paper on wireless power transfer via resonant inductive coupling the authors just mention frequencies that range in the kHz and Mhz range, but none of them explain why high frequencies must be used.










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  • in terms of electronics, kHz and MHz is hardly 'high frequencies'. In fact, in my field, that is all considered 'that DC rubbish we have to get rid of'.
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Can you please tell me why you don't use these low frequencies in your field? I am having a hard time understanding the advantages of high frequency...
    – DigiNin Gravy
    3 hours ago






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    That in-and-of-itself is a question I have literally written chapters of books about, and would be too broad for a stack exchange question. It mainly comes down to bandwidth and wavelength (and corresponding antenna size).
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Above 20 kHz has the advantage that it's mostly inaudible. Lower frequencies would make an annoying whine from the inductors. Listen to the 400/800 Hz tone on top of the cabin announcements in a plane.
    – tomnexus
    3 hours ago












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Just as the title says. Whenever I read a research paper on wireless power transfer via resonant inductive coupling the authors just mention frequencies that range in the kHz and Mhz range, but none of them explain why high frequencies must be used.










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Just as the title says. Whenever I read a research paper on wireless power transfer via resonant inductive coupling the authors just mention frequencies that range in the kHz and Mhz range, but none of them explain why high frequencies must be used.







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  • in terms of electronics, kHz and MHz is hardly 'high frequencies'. In fact, in my field, that is all considered 'that DC rubbish we have to get rid of'.
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Can you please tell me why you don't use these low frequencies in your field? I am having a hard time understanding the advantages of high frequency...
    – DigiNin Gravy
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    That in-and-of-itself is a question I have literally written chapters of books about, and would be too broad for a stack exchange question. It mainly comes down to bandwidth and wavelength (and corresponding antenna size).
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Above 20 kHz has the advantage that it's mostly inaudible. Lower frequencies would make an annoying whine from the inductors. Listen to the 400/800 Hz tone on top of the cabin announcements in a plane.
    – tomnexus
    3 hours ago
















  • in terms of electronics, kHz and MHz is hardly 'high frequencies'. In fact, in my field, that is all considered 'that DC rubbish we have to get rid of'.
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Can you please tell me why you don't use these low frequencies in your field? I am having a hard time understanding the advantages of high frequency...
    – DigiNin Gravy
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    That in-and-of-itself is a question I have literally written chapters of books about, and would be too broad for a stack exchange question. It mainly comes down to bandwidth and wavelength (and corresponding antenna size).
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago










  • Above 20 kHz has the advantage that it's mostly inaudible. Lower frequencies would make an annoying whine from the inductors. Listen to the 400/800 Hz tone on top of the cabin announcements in a plane.
    – tomnexus
    3 hours ago















in terms of electronics, kHz and MHz is hardly 'high frequencies'. In fact, in my field, that is all considered 'that DC rubbish we have to get rid of'.
– Joren Vaes
3 hours ago




in terms of electronics, kHz and MHz is hardly 'high frequencies'. In fact, in my field, that is all considered 'that DC rubbish we have to get rid of'.
– Joren Vaes
3 hours ago












Can you please tell me why you don't use these low frequencies in your field? I am having a hard time understanding the advantages of high frequency...
– DigiNin Gravy
3 hours ago




Can you please tell me why you don't use these low frequencies in your field? I am having a hard time understanding the advantages of high frequency...
– DigiNin Gravy
3 hours ago




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That in-and-of-itself is a question I have literally written chapters of books about, and would be too broad for a stack exchange question. It mainly comes down to bandwidth and wavelength (and corresponding antenna size).
– Joren Vaes
3 hours ago




That in-and-of-itself is a question I have literally written chapters of books about, and would be too broad for a stack exchange question. It mainly comes down to bandwidth and wavelength (and corresponding antenna size).
– Joren Vaes
3 hours ago












Above 20 kHz has the advantage that it's mostly inaudible. Lower frequencies would make an annoying whine from the inductors. Listen to the 400/800 Hz tone on top of the cabin announcements in a plane.
– tomnexus
3 hours ago




Above 20 kHz has the advantage that it's mostly inaudible. Lower frequencies would make an annoying whine from the inductors. Listen to the 400/800 Hz tone on top of the cabin announcements in a plane.
– tomnexus
3 hours ago










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Low frequency resonant tuned circuits require high values of inductance and capacitance. High value and power efficient inductors cost money and are big thus, they don't easily find much use in resonant inductive coupling applications.



Added to this is that near field passive card readers read data from passive tags by the tag itself modulating the incoming magnetic field and, if that magnetic field is low frequency then the data rate that can be modulated is much lower. This would lead to slow data transaction time.






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    I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
    – Joren Vaes
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Low frequency resonant tuned circuits require high values of inductance and capacitance. High value and power efficient inductors cost money and are big thus, they don't easily find much use in resonant inductive coupling applications.



Added to this is that near field passive card readers read data from passive tags by the tag itself modulating the incoming magnetic field and, if that magnetic field is low frequency then the data rate that can be modulated is much lower. This would lead to slow data transaction time.






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    I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago














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Low frequency resonant tuned circuits require high values of inductance and capacitance. High value and power efficient inductors cost money and are big thus, they don't easily find much use in resonant inductive coupling applications.



Added to this is that near field passive card readers read data from passive tags by the tag itself modulating the incoming magnetic field and, if that magnetic field is low frequency then the data rate that can be modulated is much lower. This would lead to slow data transaction time.






share|improve this answer
















  • 3




    I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago












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Low frequency resonant tuned circuits require high values of inductance and capacitance. High value and power efficient inductors cost money and are big thus, they don't easily find much use in resonant inductive coupling applications.



Added to this is that near field passive card readers read data from passive tags by the tag itself modulating the incoming magnetic field and, if that magnetic field is low frequency then the data rate that can be modulated is much lower. This would lead to slow data transaction time.






share|improve this answer












Low frequency resonant tuned circuits require high values of inductance and capacitance. High value and power efficient inductors cost money and are big thus, they don't easily find much use in resonant inductive coupling applications.



Added to this is that near field passive card readers read data from passive tags by the tag itself modulating the incoming magnetic field and, if that magnetic field is low frequency then the data rate that can be modulated is much lower. This would lead to slow data transaction time.







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    I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
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    3 hours ago












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    I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
    – Joren Vaes
    3 hours ago







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I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
– Joren Vaes
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I addition, the higher switching frequencies means it takes less capacitance for smooth it out to a good DC, which again means smaller and cheaper components on a PCB. Going too high in frequency would result in you running into issues with range and Q-factor of circuits.
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