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In Britain (and throughout Europe and the football-playing world), it is the normal convention to state the name of the home team first and the away team second. So when the results are read out on the radio the announcer will say, for example:
"Queens Park Rangers 2 Sheffield Wednesday 3".
(The match was played at the ground of QPR)
However I have been informed that such a convention is foreign to Americans. In the USA, the score of the winning side is always read out first.
Is this the case or not?
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In Britain (and throughout Europe and the football-playing world), it is the normal convention to state the name of the home team first and the away team second. So when the results are read out on the radio the announcer will say, for example:
"Queens Park Rangers 2 Sheffield Wednesday 3".
(The match was played at the ground of QPR)
However I have been informed that such a convention is foreign to Americans. In the USA, the score of the winning side is always read out first.
Is this the case or not?
football terminology
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In Britain (and throughout Europe and the football-playing world), it is the normal convention to state the name of the home team first and the away team second. So when the results are read out on the radio the announcer will say, for example:
"Queens Park Rangers 2 Sheffield Wednesday 3".
(The match was played at the ground of QPR)
However I have been informed that such a convention is foreign to Americans. In the USA, the score of the winning side is always read out first.
Is this the case or not?
football terminology
edited Aug 11 at 22:50
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WS2
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In Britain (and throughout Europe and the football-playing world), it is the normal convention to state the name of the home team first and the away team second. So when the results are read out on the radio the announcer will say, for example:
"Queens Park Rangers 2 Sheffield Wednesday 3".
(The match was played at the ground of QPR)
However I have been informed that such a convention is foreign to Americans. In the USA, the score of the winning side is always read out first.
Is this the case or not?
football terminology
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Yes, the convention in the US is to report the winning team first.
Take Wednesday's article in the New York Times on Tuesdays's Yankee-White Sox. matchup played at Guaranteed Rate Field (the home field of the White Sox).
The header reads "YANKEES 7, WHITE SOX 3," although the score isn't mentioned directly in the text.
Likewise, Wednesday's article on the Reds-Mets game (at the Mets' home field), lists the Reds first: "REDS 3, METS 1, and the copy matches.
Sal Romano got the win in his New York homecoming, pitching into the seventh inning to lift the Cincinnati Reds over the Mets, 6-1, on Tuesday night in a game delayed by rain for 1 hour 40 minutes in the first inning. [emphasis added].
I added two examples from New York home teams to show it isn't a convention to list the local team first either. I would also note that in baseball, the away team always goes first and the home team second, so it would be very normal to always list [away]-[home], although that isn't the case (see today's article on the Yankee's home win, where the Yankees are listed first).
For a soccer example, I dug up this 2015 article on the New York City F.C. vs. Portland Timbers game, which was played on NYCFC's home turf.
In this article, the Timbers (away) are listed first in the header: "TIMBERS 1, NEW YORK CITY F.C. 0 and in the copy:
Dairon Asprilla scored a late second-half goal Sunday night, and the Portland Timbers beat New York City F.C., 1-0.
Anecdotally, growing up in America, I was always taught to list the winning score first, regardless of sport. In fact, I wasn't even aware anyone did it differently.
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
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answered Aug 10 at 21:23
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However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
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+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
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Yes, the convention in the US is to report the winning team first.
Take Wednesday's article in the New York Times on Tuesdays's Yankee-White Sox. matchup played at Guaranteed Rate Field (the home field of the White Sox).
The header reads "YANKEES 7, WHITE SOX 3," although the score isn't mentioned directly in the text.
Likewise, Wednesday's article on the Reds-Mets game (at the Mets' home field), lists the Reds first: "REDS 3, METS 1, and the copy matches.
Sal Romano got the win in his New York homecoming, pitching into the seventh inning to lift the Cincinnati Reds over the Mets, 6-1, on Tuesday night in a game delayed by rain for 1 hour 40 minutes in the first inning. [emphasis added].
I added two examples from New York home teams to show it isn't a convention to list the local team first either. I would also note that in baseball, the away team always goes first and the home team second, so it would be very normal to always list [away]-[home], although that isn't the case (see today's article on the Yankee's home win, where the Yankees are listed first).
For a soccer example, I dug up this 2015 article on the New York City F.C. vs. Portland Timbers game, which was played on NYCFC's home turf.
In this article, the Timbers (away) are listed first in the header: "TIMBERS 1, NEW YORK CITY F.C. 0 and in the copy:
Dairon Asprilla scored a late second-half goal Sunday night, and the Portland Timbers beat New York City F.C., 1-0.
Anecdotally, growing up in America, I was always taught to list the winning score first, regardless of sport. In fact, I wasn't even aware anyone did it differently.
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
1
+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
 |Â
show 5 more comments
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Yes, the convention in the US is to report the winning team first.
Take Wednesday's article in the New York Times on Tuesdays's Yankee-White Sox. matchup played at Guaranteed Rate Field (the home field of the White Sox).
The header reads "YANKEES 7, WHITE SOX 3," although the score isn't mentioned directly in the text.
Likewise, Wednesday's article on the Reds-Mets game (at the Mets' home field), lists the Reds first: "REDS 3, METS 1, and the copy matches.
Sal Romano got the win in his New York homecoming, pitching into the seventh inning to lift the Cincinnati Reds over the Mets, 6-1, on Tuesday night in a game delayed by rain for 1 hour 40 minutes in the first inning. [emphasis added].
I added two examples from New York home teams to show it isn't a convention to list the local team first either. I would also note that in baseball, the away team always goes first and the home team second, so it would be very normal to always list [away]-[home], although that isn't the case (see today's article on the Yankee's home win, where the Yankees are listed first).
For a soccer example, I dug up this 2015 article on the New York City F.C. vs. Portland Timbers game, which was played on NYCFC's home turf.
In this article, the Timbers (away) are listed first in the header: "TIMBERS 1, NEW YORK CITY F.C. 0 and in the copy:
Dairon Asprilla scored a late second-half goal Sunday night, and the Portland Timbers beat New York City F.C., 1-0.
Anecdotally, growing up in America, I was always taught to list the winning score first, regardless of sport. In fact, I wasn't even aware anyone did it differently.
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
1
+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
 |Â
show 5 more comments
up vote
8
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up vote
8
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Yes, the convention in the US is to report the winning team first.
Take Wednesday's article in the New York Times on Tuesdays's Yankee-White Sox. matchup played at Guaranteed Rate Field (the home field of the White Sox).
The header reads "YANKEES 7, WHITE SOX 3," although the score isn't mentioned directly in the text.
Likewise, Wednesday's article on the Reds-Mets game (at the Mets' home field), lists the Reds first: "REDS 3, METS 1, and the copy matches.
Sal Romano got the win in his New York homecoming, pitching into the seventh inning to lift the Cincinnati Reds over the Mets, 6-1, on Tuesday night in a game delayed by rain for 1 hour 40 minutes in the first inning. [emphasis added].
I added two examples from New York home teams to show it isn't a convention to list the local team first either. I would also note that in baseball, the away team always goes first and the home team second, so it would be very normal to always list [away]-[home], although that isn't the case (see today's article on the Yankee's home win, where the Yankees are listed first).
For a soccer example, I dug up this 2015 article on the New York City F.C. vs. Portland Timbers game, which was played on NYCFC's home turf.
In this article, the Timbers (away) are listed first in the header: "TIMBERS 1, NEW YORK CITY F.C. 0 and in the copy:
Dairon Asprilla scored a late second-half goal Sunday night, and the Portland Timbers beat New York City F.C., 1-0.
Anecdotally, growing up in America, I was always taught to list the winning score first, regardless of sport. In fact, I wasn't even aware anyone did it differently.
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
Yes, the convention in the US is to report the winning team first.
Take Wednesday's article in the New York Times on Tuesdays's Yankee-White Sox. matchup played at Guaranteed Rate Field (the home field of the White Sox).
The header reads "YANKEES 7, WHITE SOX 3," although the score isn't mentioned directly in the text.
Likewise, Wednesday's article on the Reds-Mets game (at the Mets' home field), lists the Reds first: "REDS 3, METS 1, and the copy matches.
Sal Romano got the win in his New York homecoming, pitching into the seventh inning to lift the Cincinnati Reds over the Mets, 6-1, on Tuesday night in a game delayed by rain for 1 hour 40 minutes in the first inning. [emphasis added].
I added two examples from New York home teams to show it isn't a convention to list the local team first either. I would also note that in baseball, the away team always goes first and the home team second, so it would be very normal to always list [away]-[home], although that isn't the case (see today's article on the Yankee's home win, where the Yankees are listed first).
For a soccer example, I dug up this 2015 article on the New York City F.C. vs. Portland Timbers game, which was played on NYCFC's home turf.
In this article, the Timbers (away) are listed first in the header: "TIMBERS 1, NEW YORK CITY F.C. 0 and in the copy:
Dairon Asprilla scored a late second-half goal Sunday night, and the Portland Timbers beat New York City F.C., 1-0.
Anecdotally, growing up in America, I was always taught to list the winning score first, regardless of sport. In fact, I wasn't even aware anyone did it differently.
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
edited Aug 11 at 20:55
Philip Kendall♦
16.5k22451
16.5k22451
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
answered Aug 10 at 21:23
Azor Ahai
1961
1961
However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
1
+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
 |Â
show 5 more comments
However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
1
+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
However. When showing the score during a game (at least on TV), the away team is listed first and the home team is listed second.
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:10
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
@JasonBassford In soccer or baseball? I know it to be true for baseball and (American) football, but I don't think I've ever watched a soccer game.
– Azor Ahai
Aug 10 at 22:16
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
Honestly, I'm not certain about North American soccer. But if this Reddit thread is any indication, it does specifically follow the European format in the reverse of the other North American sports. (At least in general. Apparently, some networks aren't consistent.)
– Jason Bassford
Aug 10 at 22:32
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
What about tennis, where they typically report the scores of all the sets, e.g. 6-4, 2-6, 6-3. Is the match winner first? Does this differ between US and Europe?
– Barmar
Aug 11 at 1:16
1
1
+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
+1 and a tick for a comprehensive answer. It is exactly the information I was seeking. But what do you do if the match ends in a draw?
– WS2
Aug 11 at 7:13
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Also: sports.stackexchange.com/questions/17589/…
– BowlOfRed
Aug 12 at 5:31