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What difference, if any, is there between "how charming she is" and "how she is charming" in the following?




John understands how she is charming / how charming she is.




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    What difference, if any, is there between "how charming she is" and "how she is charming" in the following?




    John understands how she is charming / how charming she is.




    I'd appreciate your help.







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      What difference, if any, is there between "how charming she is" and "how she is charming" in the following?




      John understands how she is charming / how charming she is.




      I'd appreciate your help.







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      What difference, if any, is there between "how charming she is" and "how she is charming" in the following?




      John understands how she is charming / how charming she is.




      I'd appreciate your help.









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          The version




          John understands how charming she is.




          is about how much charm she has.



          The version




          John understands how she is charming.




          is about what makes her charming or why they call her charming.






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            Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
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          The other two answers are both correct, even though they are slightly different.



          Why? Because "He noticed how she is charming" is ambiguous.



          It can either mean:




          He noticed that she is charming (Tᴚoɯɐuo's interpretation)




          or




          He noticed in what way she is charming (Alex_ander's interpretation)




          With no other context clues (like the text going on to describe the specific ways in which she is charming), I'd say the first is the more likely meaning a native speaker would infer.



          The other version ("John understands how charming she is") isn't ambiguous, it always refers to how much charm she has.






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            Ah, but her charms are many.
            – Tᴚoɯɐuo
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          • I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
            – David K
            Aug 30 at 20:51

















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          how she is charming



          refers to the fact of her being charming.



          how charming she is



          refers to the degree of her charm.




          He noticed how the ladder was wobbly.



          He noticed how wobbly the ladder was.




          The first refers to the fact that the ladder is wobbly.
          The second refers to the degree of the ladder's wobble.






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            John understands how charming she is.




            What this is saying is that John is coming to the realization that the girl is really charming. That is, he now understands that she is beautiful and attractive to a high degree. The word why is an adverb and it can have many different usages, but in our case here it talks specifically about the extent or degree to which the girl is charming.




            John understands how she is charming.




            In this example, we're saying that John has no problem understanding why or in what way people find or think that the girl charming.




            I think this still needs more clarification, so, please take a look at the following examples:




            You will never understand how good chocolate truffle cake is unless you try it yourself!




            The only way to understand to what degree chocolate truffle cake is good is to actually taste it.




            I don't really understand how PCs are good. On the contrary, I think they are total crap compared to Mac computers! (This is just an example to make a point. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything like that.)




            Here, I'm saying that I don't understand why people think that PC computers are good. In what way are they good? I think that Macs are way better.






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              The version




              John understands how charming she is.




              is about how much charm she has.



              The version




              John understands how she is charming.




              is about what makes her charming or why they call her charming.






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                Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
                – Shufflepants
                Aug 30 at 21:38















              up vote
              11
              down vote













              The version




              John understands how charming she is.




              is about how much charm she has.



              The version




              John understands how she is charming.




              is about what makes her charming or why they call her charming.






              share|improve this answer
















              • 2




                Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
                – Shufflepants
                Aug 30 at 21:38













              up vote
              11
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              up vote
              11
              down vote









              The version




              John understands how charming she is.




              is about how much charm she has.



              The version




              John understands how she is charming.




              is about what makes her charming or why they call her charming.






              share|improve this answer












              The version




              John understands how charming she is.




              is about how much charm she has.



              The version




              John understands how she is charming.




              is about what makes her charming or why they call her charming.







              share|improve this answer












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                Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
                – Shufflepants
                Aug 30 at 21:38













              • 2




                Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
                – Shufflepants
                Aug 30 at 21:38








              2




              2




              Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
              – Shufflepants
              Aug 30 at 21:38





              Or the second version means that John understands how she's casting spells.
              – Shufflepants
              Aug 30 at 21:38













              up vote
              8
              down vote













              The other two answers are both correct, even though they are slightly different.



              Why? Because "He noticed how she is charming" is ambiguous.



              It can either mean:




              He noticed that she is charming (Tᴚoɯɐuo's interpretation)




              or




              He noticed in what way she is charming (Alex_ander's interpretation)




              With no other context clues (like the text going on to describe the specific ways in which she is charming), I'd say the first is the more likely meaning a native speaker would infer.



              The other version ("John understands how charming she is") isn't ambiguous, it always refers to how much charm she has.






              share|improve this answer


















              • 1




                Ah, but her charms are many.
                – Tᴚoɯɐuo
                Aug 30 at 19:00










              • I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
                – David K
                Aug 30 at 20:51














              up vote
              8
              down vote













              The other two answers are both correct, even though they are slightly different.



              Why? Because "He noticed how she is charming" is ambiguous.



              It can either mean:




              He noticed that she is charming (Tᴚoɯɐuo's interpretation)




              or




              He noticed in what way she is charming (Alex_ander's interpretation)




              With no other context clues (like the text going on to describe the specific ways in which she is charming), I'd say the first is the more likely meaning a native speaker would infer.



              The other version ("John understands how charming she is") isn't ambiguous, it always refers to how much charm she has.






              share|improve this answer


















              • 1




                Ah, but her charms are many.
                – Tᴚoɯɐuo
                Aug 30 at 19:00










              • I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
                – David K
                Aug 30 at 20:51












              up vote
              8
              down vote










              up vote
              8
              down vote









              The other two answers are both correct, even though they are slightly different.



              Why? Because "He noticed how she is charming" is ambiguous.



              It can either mean:




              He noticed that she is charming (Tᴚoɯɐuo's interpretation)




              or




              He noticed in what way she is charming (Alex_ander's interpretation)




              With no other context clues (like the text going on to describe the specific ways in which she is charming), I'd say the first is the more likely meaning a native speaker would infer.



              The other version ("John understands how charming she is") isn't ambiguous, it always refers to how much charm she has.






              share|improve this answer














              The other two answers are both correct, even though they are slightly different.



              Why? Because "He noticed how she is charming" is ambiguous.



              It can either mean:




              He noticed that she is charming (Tᴚoɯɐuo's interpretation)




              or




              He noticed in what way she is charming (Alex_ander's interpretation)




              With no other context clues (like the text going on to describe the specific ways in which she is charming), I'd say the first is the more likely meaning a native speaker would infer.



              The other version ("John understands how charming she is") isn't ambiguous, it always refers to how much charm she has.







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                Ah, but her charms are many.
                – Tᴚoɯɐuo
                Aug 30 at 19:00










              • I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
                – David K
                Aug 30 at 20:51












              • 1




                Ah, but her charms are many.
                – Tᴚoɯɐuo
                Aug 30 at 19:00










              • I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
                – David K
                Aug 30 at 20:51







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              Ah, but her charms are many.
              – Tᴚoɯɐuo
              Aug 30 at 19:00




              Ah, but her charms are many.
              – Tᴚoɯɐuo
              Aug 30 at 19:00












              I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
              – David K
              Aug 30 at 20:51




              I would consider the use of "how" instead of "that" as somewhat informal. I agree it is the more likely interpretation, because someone writing formally would probably have avoided the ambiguity of "how" altogether.
              – David K
              Aug 30 at 20:51










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              how she is charming



              refers to the fact of her being charming.



              how charming she is



              refers to the degree of her charm.




              He noticed how the ladder was wobbly.



              He noticed how wobbly the ladder was.




              The first refers to the fact that the ladder is wobbly.
              The second refers to the degree of the ladder's wobble.






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                up vote
                4
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                how she is charming



                refers to the fact of her being charming.



                how charming she is



                refers to the degree of her charm.




                He noticed how the ladder was wobbly.



                He noticed how wobbly the ladder was.




                The first refers to the fact that the ladder is wobbly.
                The second refers to the degree of the ladder's wobble.






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                  up vote
                  4
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                  how she is charming



                  refers to the fact of her being charming.



                  how charming she is



                  refers to the degree of her charm.




                  He noticed how the ladder was wobbly.



                  He noticed how wobbly the ladder was.




                  The first refers to the fact that the ladder is wobbly.
                  The second refers to the degree of the ladder's wobble.






                  share|improve this answer












                  how she is charming



                  refers to the fact of her being charming.



                  how charming she is



                  refers to the degree of her charm.




                  He noticed how the ladder was wobbly.



                  He noticed how wobbly the ladder was.




                  The first refers to the fact that the ladder is wobbly.
                  The second refers to the degree of the ladder's wobble.







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                      John understands how charming she is.




                      What this is saying is that John is coming to the realization that the girl is really charming. That is, he now understands that she is beautiful and attractive to a high degree. The word why is an adverb and it can have many different usages, but in our case here it talks specifically about the extent or degree to which the girl is charming.




                      John understands how she is charming.




                      In this example, we're saying that John has no problem understanding why or in what way people find or think that the girl charming.




                      I think this still needs more clarification, so, please take a look at the following examples:




                      You will never understand how good chocolate truffle cake is unless you try it yourself!




                      The only way to understand to what degree chocolate truffle cake is good is to actually taste it.




                      I don't really understand how PCs are good. On the contrary, I think they are total crap compared to Mac computers! (This is just an example to make a point. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything like that.)




                      Here, I'm saying that I don't understand why people think that PC computers are good. In what way are they good? I think that Macs are way better.






                      share|improve this answer


























                        up vote
                        1
                        down vote














                        John understands how charming she is.




                        What this is saying is that John is coming to the realization that the girl is really charming. That is, he now understands that she is beautiful and attractive to a high degree. The word why is an adverb and it can have many different usages, but in our case here it talks specifically about the extent or degree to which the girl is charming.




                        John understands how she is charming.




                        In this example, we're saying that John has no problem understanding why or in what way people find or think that the girl charming.




                        I think this still needs more clarification, so, please take a look at the following examples:




                        You will never understand how good chocolate truffle cake is unless you try it yourself!




                        The only way to understand to what degree chocolate truffle cake is good is to actually taste it.




                        I don't really understand how PCs are good. On the contrary, I think they are total crap compared to Mac computers! (This is just an example to make a point. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything like that.)




                        Here, I'm saying that I don't understand why people think that PC computers are good. In what way are they good? I think that Macs are way better.






                        share|improve this answer
























                          up vote
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                          up vote
                          1
                          down vote










                          John understands how charming she is.




                          What this is saying is that John is coming to the realization that the girl is really charming. That is, he now understands that she is beautiful and attractive to a high degree. The word why is an adverb and it can have many different usages, but in our case here it talks specifically about the extent or degree to which the girl is charming.




                          John understands how she is charming.




                          In this example, we're saying that John has no problem understanding why or in what way people find or think that the girl charming.




                          I think this still needs more clarification, so, please take a look at the following examples:




                          You will never understand how good chocolate truffle cake is unless you try it yourself!




                          The only way to understand to what degree chocolate truffle cake is good is to actually taste it.




                          I don't really understand how PCs are good. On the contrary, I think they are total crap compared to Mac computers! (This is just an example to make a point. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything like that.)




                          Here, I'm saying that I don't understand why people think that PC computers are good. In what way are they good? I think that Macs are way better.






                          share|improve this answer















                          John understands how charming she is.




                          What this is saying is that John is coming to the realization that the girl is really charming. That is, he now understands that she is beautiful and attractive to a high degree. The word why is an adverb and it can have many different usages, but in our case here it talks specifically about the extent or degree to which the girl is charming.




                          John understands how she is charming.




                          In this example, we're saying that John has no problem understanding why or in what way people find or think that the girl charming.




                          I think this still needs more clarification, so, please take a look at the following examples:




                          You will never understand how good chocolate truffle cake is unless you try it yourself!




                          The only way to understand to what degree chocolate truffle cake is good is to actually taste it.




                          I don't really understand how PCs are good. On the contrary, I think they are total crap compared to Mac computers! (This is just an example to make a point. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything like that.)




                          Here, I'm saying that I don't understand why people think that PC computers are good. In what way are they good? I think that Macs are way better.







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