Does a little failure in mental celibacy completely break my brahmacharya

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Let's take a scenario in which I had practiced brahmacharya for about 1 year or so...
Now if I involuntarily got attracted mentally by a girl..and I praised her beauty. But immediately felt wrong and held back myself from that thoughts
Does that break my brahmacharya??
Will my one year of hard work go in vain??

practice brahmacharya

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  You simply mentally praised her beauty? Or you actually said that to her?
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 6:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  Mentally praised her beauty
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 6:24
  

  
  
  
  


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  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:33
  

  
  
  
  


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  the mind will try and use this as an excuse for you to break your physical brahmacharya. The one year is not in vain. When a child is learning to walk, he may fall down sometimes. Does the child stop trying to walk? Without a few mental falls, one cannot learn to walk or later to run. When you fall down, stand back up, brush yourself off, and try again. The only one that fails is the one that gives up and does not try again. Do not dwell on failure.
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  I know one yogi who carried hot chilis with him when he was starting. Whenever his mind would start to stray to sexual thoughts, he would put the hot chilis in his mouth. When he did this he could think of nothing else but the hotness in his mouth. His mind learned to not stray to those thoughts. Your mind is like a wild horse that needs to be broken and trained.
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  Aug 12 at 10:22
  
  

  
  
  
  

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Let's take a scenario in which I had practiced brahmacharya for about 1 year or so...
Now if I involuntarily got attracted mentally by a girl..and I praised her beauty. But immediately felt wrong and held back myself from that thoughts
Does that break my brahmacharya??
Will my one year of hard work go in vain??

practice brahmacharya

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edited Aug 14 at 2:57

Sarvabhouma

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asked Aug 12 at 6:11

user10083325

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  You simply mentally praised her beauty? Or you actually said that to her?
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 6:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Mentally praised her beauty
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 6:24
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Hindu scriptures
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:33
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  the mind will try and use this as an excuse for you to break your physical brahmacharya. The one year is not in vain. When a child is learning to walk, he may fall down sometimes. Does the child stop trying to walk? Without a few mental falls, one cannot learn to walk or later to run. When you fall down, stand back up, brush yourself off, and try again. The only one that fails is the one that gives up and does not try again. Do not dwell on failure.
  – Swami Vishwananda
  Aug 12 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


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  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I know one yogi who carried hot chilis with him when he was starting. Whenever his mind would start to stray to sexual thoughts, he would put the hot chilis in his mouth. When he did this he could think of nothing else but the hotness in his mouth. His mind learned to not stray to those thoughts. Your mind is like a wild horse that needs to be broken and trained.
  – Swami Vishwananda
  Aug 12 at 10:22
  
  

  
  
  
  

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Let's take a scenario in which I had practiced brahmacharya for about 1 year or so...
Now if I involuntarily got attracted mentally by a girl..and I praised her beauty. But immediately felt wrong and held back myself from that thoughts
Does that break my brahmacharya??
Will my one year of hard work go in vain??

practice brahmacharya

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edited Aug 14 at 2:57

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Let's take a scenario in which I had practiced brahmacharya for about 1 year or so...
Now if I involuntarily got attracted mentally by a girl..and I praised her beauty. But immediately felt wrong and held back myself from that thoughts
Does that break my brahmacharya??
Will my one year of hard work go in vain??

practice brahmacharya

share|improve this question

edited Aug 14 at 2:57

Sarvabhouma

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asked Aug 12 at 6:11

user10083325

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edited Aug 14 at 2:57

Sarvabhouma

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edited Aug 14 at 2:57

Sarvabhouma

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edited Aug 14 at 2:57

Sarvabhouma

12.5k550114

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asked Aug 12 at 6:11

user10083325

212

asked Aug 12 at 6:11

user10083325

212

asked Aug 12 at 6:11

user10083325

212

212

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  You simply mentally praised her beauty? Or you actually said that to her?
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 6:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Mentally praised her beauty
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 6:24
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Hindu scriptures
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:33
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  the mind will try and use this as an excuse for you to break your physical brahmacharya. The one year is not in vain. When a child is learning to walk, he may fall down sometimes. Does the child stop trying to walk? Without a few mental falls, one cannot learn to walk or later to run. When you fall down, stand back up, brush yourself off, and try again. The only one that fails is the one that gives up and does not try again. Do not dwell on failure.
  – Swami Vishwananda
  Aug 12 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I know one yogi who carried hot chilis with him when he was starting. Whenever his mind would start to stray to sexual thoughts, he would put the hot chilis in his mouth. When he did this he could think of nothing else but the hotness in his mouth. His mind learned to not stray to those thoughts. Your mind is like a wild horse that needs to be broken and trained.
  – Swami Vishwananda
  Aug 12 at 10:22
  
  

  
  
  
  

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  You simply mentally praised her beauty? Or you actually said that to her?
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 6:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Mentally praised her beauty
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 6:24
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Hindu scriptures
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:33
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  the mind will try and use this as an excuse for you to break your physical brahmacharya. The one year is not in vain. When a child is learning to walk, he may fall down sometimes. Does the child stop trying to walk? Without a few mental falls, one cannot learn to walk or later to run. When you fall down, stand back up, brush yourself off, and try again. The only one that fails is the one that gives up and does not try again. Do not dwell on failure.
  – Swami Vishwananda
  Aug 12 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I know one yogi who carried hot chilis with him when he was starting. Whenever his mind would start to stray to sexual thoughts, he would put the hot chilis in his mouth. When he did this he could think of nothing else but the hotness in his mouth. His mind learned to not stray to those thoughts. Your mind is like a wild horse that needs to be broken and trained.
  – Swami Vishwananda
  Aug 12 at 10:22
  
  

  
  
  
  

You simply mentally praised her beauty? Or you actually said that to her?
– Rickross
Aug 12 at 6:22

You simply mentally praised her beauty? Or you actually said that to her?
– Rickross
Aug 12 at 6:22

Mentally praised her beauty
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 6:24

Mentally praised her beauty
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 6:24

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1

Hindu scriptures
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 8:33

Hindu scriptures
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 8:33

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the mind will try and use this as an excuse for you to break your physical brahmacharya. The one year is not in vain. When a child is learning to walk, he may fall down sometimes. Does the child stop trying to walk? Without a few mental falls, one cannot learn to walk or later to run. When you fall down, stand back up, brush yourself off, and try again. The only one that fails is the one that gives up and does not try again. Do not dwell on failure.
– Swami Vishwananda
Aug 12 at 10:20

the mind will try and use this as an excuse for you to break your physical brahmacharya. The one year is not in vain. When a child is learning to walk, he may fall down sometimes. Does the child stop trying to walk? Without a few mental falls, one cannot learn to walk or later to run. When you fall down, stand back up, brush yourself off, and try again. The only one that fails is the one that gives up and does not try again. Do not dwell on failure.
– Swami Vishwananda
Aug 12 at 10:20

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I know one yogi who carried hot chilis with him when he was starting. Whenever his mind would start to stray to sexual thoughts, he would put the hot chilis in his mouth. When he did this he could think of nothing else but the hotness in his mouth. His mind learned to not stray to those thoughts. Your mind is like a wild horse that needs to be broken and trained.
– Swami Vishwananda
Aug 12 at 10:22

I know one yogi who carried hot chilis with him when he was starting. Whenever his mind would start to stray to sexual thoughts, he would put the hot chilis in his mouth. When he did this he could think of nothing else but the hotness in his mouth. His mind learned to not stray to those thoughts. Your mind is like a wild horse that needs to be broken and trained.
– Swami Vishwananda
Aug 12 at 10:22

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See, this is from my own experience of Sadhana I am talking. Do not try to control over your thought process about this worldly affairs. Until you realize supreme, when senses come in contact with objects they like, when mind's attractive things you encounter, these thoughts bound to rise. So do not worry about these thoughts arising in mind. As long as anything is restricted to just thoughts, it's fine because we're in Kaliyuga, and the culture, the way we dress up, everything has changed. So you are not to be blamed.

Your focus should be on God-realization. And be focused on things which will make you realize God, and just keep moving in that direction. That will gradually release you from all bondages. When you do that, automatically negative forces which block God realization leaves. Move on what is essential, automatically non-essential leaves you. That's why in Tamil they say"ஸ்ரீ தேவி வீடு வாசலில் வந்தா, முதேவி பின்வாசல் வழியாக போய்டும்." - Focus on what you need to do in life, rest of the things will automatically fall in place

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

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  This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:07
  

  
  
  
  


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  What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:09
  

  
  
  
  


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  I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:10
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:13
  

  
  
  
  


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  You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
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According to the Daksha Smriti (DS) sexual intercourse can be of eight kinds.

See the following verses:

[A Yogin} should always preserve his Brahmacharyya [celibacy]; Sexual
intercourse is of eight sorts : -viz: thinking of a woman,
talking [about it]
-dalliance with a woman, looking [at a woman with an impure desire] speaking to her secretly, determination [for holding a sexual
congress], persistent endeavour [for doing it] and the actual deed.
The learned hold that these are the eight divisions of sexual
intercourse.

DS 7-32,33

Any of these eight acts are considered as against celibacy.

So, even thinking about a woman is in violation of celibacy. But IMO, it is here talking about thinking sexually about a woman (i.e having amorous thoughts about a lady) and not about just thinking.

In your case, you simply praised her beauty in mind but did not have sexual thoughts about her.

So, IMO, your celibacy vow is still intact.

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  So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
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  But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
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  Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
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  So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
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  Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
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See, this is from my own experience of Sadhana I am talking. Do not try to control over your thought process about this worldly affairs. Until you realize supreme, when senses come in contact with objects they like, when mind's attractive things you encounter, these thoughts bound to rise. So do not worry about these thoughts arising in mind. As long as anything is restricted to just thoughts, it's fine because we're in Kaliyuga, and the culture, the way we dress up, everything has changed. So you are not to be blamed.

Your focus should be on God-realization. And be focused on things which will make you realize God, and just keep moving in that direction. That will gradually release you from all bondages. When you do that, automatically negative forces which block God realization leaves. Move on what is essential, automatically non-essential leaves you. That's why in Tamil they say"ஸ்ரீ தேவி வீடு வாசலில் வந்தா, முதேவி பின்வாசல் வழியாக போய்டும்." - Focus on what you need to do in life, rest of the things will automatically fall in place

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

Akshay Kumar S

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:07
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:09
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:10
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:13
  

  
  
  
  


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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
  – Pandya♦
  Aug 18 at 3:18
  
  

  
  
  
  

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See, this is from my own experience of Sadhana I am talking. Do not try to control over your thought process about this worldly affairs. Until you realize supreme, when senses come in contact with objects they like, when mind's attractive things you encounter, these thoughts bound to rise. So do not worry about these thoughts arising in mind. As long as anything is restricted to just thoughts, it's fine because we're in Kaliyuga, and the culture, the way we dress up, everything has changed. So you are not to be blamed.

Your focus should be on God-realization. And be focused on things which will make you realize God, and just keep moving in that direction. That will gradually release you from all bondages. When you do that, automatically negative forces which block God realization leaves. Move on what is essential, automatically non-essential leaves you. That's why in Tamil they say"ஸ்ரீ தேவி வீடு வாசலில் வந்தா, முதேவி பின்வாசல் வழியாக போய்டும்." - Focus on what you need to do in life, rest of the things will automatically fall in place

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

Akshay Kumar S

422112

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:07
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:09
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:10
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:13
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
  – Pandya♦
  Aug 18 at 3:18
  
  

  
  
  
  

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up vote
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See, this is from my own experience of Sadhana I am talking. Do not try to control over your thought process about this worldly affairs. Until you realize supreme, when senses come in contact with objects they like, when mind's attractive things you encounter, these thoughts bound to rise. So do not worry about these thoughts arising in mind. As long as anything is restricted to just thoughts, it's fine because we're in Kaliyuga, and the culture, the way we dress up, everything has changed. So you are not to be blamed.

Your focus should be on God-realization. And be focused on things which will make you realize God, and just keep moving in that direction. That will gradually release you from all bondages. When you do that, automatically negative forces which block God realization leaves. Move on what is essential, automatically non-essential leaves you. That's why in Tamil they say"ஸ்ரீ தேவி வீடு வாசலில் வந்தா, முதேவி பின்வாசல் வழியாக போய்டும்." - Focus on what you need to do in life, rest of the things will automatically fall in place

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

Akshay Kumar S

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See, this is from my own experience of Sadhana I am talking. Do not try to control over your thought process about this worldly affairs. Until you realize supreme, when senses come in contact with objects they like, when mind's attractive things you encounter, these thoughts bound to rise. So do not worry about these thoughts arising in mind. As long as anything is restricted to just thoughts, it's fine because we're in Kaliyuga, and the culture, the way we dress up, everything has changed. So you are not to be blamed.

Your focus should be on God-realization. And be focused on things which will make you realize God, and just keep moving in that direction. That will gradually release you from all bondages. When you do that, automatically negative forces which block God realization leaves. Move on what is essential, automatically non-essential leaves you. That's why in Tamil they say"ஸ்ரீ தேவி வீடு வாசலில் வந்தா, முதேவி பின்வாசல் வழியாக போய்டும்." - Focus on what you need to do in life, rest of the things will automatically fall in place

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

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answered Aug 12 at 8:04

Akshay Kumar S

422112

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Some of the information contained in this post requires additional references. Please edit to add citations to reliable sources that support the assertions made here. Unsourced material may be disputed or deleted.

Some of the information contained in this post requires additional references. Please edit to add citations to reliable sources that support the assertions made here. Unsourced material may be disputed or deleted.

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  This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
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  Aug 12 at 8:07
  

  
  
  
  


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  What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:09
  

  
  
  
  


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  I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
  – user10083325
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  If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:13
  

  
  
  
  


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  You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
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  This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:07
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:09
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
  – user10083325
  Aug 12 at 8:10
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
  – Akshay Kumar S
  Aug 12 at 8:13
  

  
  
  
  


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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
  – Pandya♦
  Aug 18 at 3:18
  
  

  
  
  
  

This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 8:07

This question is more of a curiosity kind.. brahmacharya rules state that we should not touch women.. so should I not touch my sister or Mother?
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 8:07

What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
– Akshay Kumar S
Aug 12 at 8:09

What is your goal actually in this life? first say. I can help you from my experience! BTW are you in brahmacharya now?
– Akshay Kumar S
Aug 12 at 8:09

I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 8:10

I'm not in brahmacharya right now... I want to be one from now on .. I am confused by various sources that's why I am asking in forums about the doubts which Google couldn't answer!! Help me please If u can
– user10083325
Aug 12 at 8:10

If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
– Akshay Kumar S
Aug 12 at 8:13

If then, fine. I'll tell you! Do not stress yourself by trying to be living too tight because in this Kaliyuga it's just extremely difficult. Your body, mind are not programmed in such a way from your childhood. So to attain God-realiziation, just make it a point to worship him with love, and meditate on him daily, and do your duties without attachment to results, and with respect to women, if it's your Mother, sister-related to blood relation, you can touch. Nothing wrong.
– Akshay Kumar S
Aug 12 at 8:13

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You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
– Pandya♦
Aug 18 at 3:18

You should cite some sources. (personal experience are not considered enough to reply on)
– Pandya♦
Aug 18 at 3:18

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According to the Daksha Smriti (DS) sexual intercourse can be of eight kinds.

See the following verses:

[A Yogin} should always preserve his Brahmacharyya [celibacy]; Sexual
intercourse is of eight sorts : -viz: thinking of a woman,
talking [about it]
-dalliance with a woman, looking [at a woman with an impure desire] speaking to her secretly, determination [for holding a sexual
congress], persistent endeavour [for doing it] and the actual deed.
The learned hold that these are the eight divisions of sexual
intercourse.

DS 7-32,33

Any of these eight acts are considered as against celibacy.

So, even thinking about a woman is in violation of celibacy. But IMO, it is here talking about thinking sexually about a woman (i.e having amorous thoughts about a lady) and not about just thinking.

In your case, you simply praised her beauty in mind but did not have sexual thoughts about her.

So, IMO, your celibacy vow is still intact.

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edited Aug 12 at 8:00

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

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  So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


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  But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


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  Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 15:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 13 at 14:09
  

  
  
  
  


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  Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
  – Rickross
  Aug 13 at 14:25
  

  
  
  
  

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up vote
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According to the Daksha Smriti (DS) sexual intercourse can be of eight kinds.

See the following verses:

[A Yogin} should always preserve his Brahmacharyya [celibacy]; Sexual
intercourse is of eight sorts : -viz: thinking of a woman,
talking [about it]
-dalliance with a woman, looking [at a woman with an impure desire] speaking to her secretly, determination [for holding a sexual
congress], persistent endeavour [for doing it] and the actual deed.
The learned hold that these are the eight divisions of sexual
intercourse.

DS 7-32,33

Any of these eight acts are considered as against celibacy.

So, even thinking about a woman is in violation of celibacy. But IMO, it is here talking about thinking sexually about a woman (i.e having amorous thoughts about a lady) and not about just thinking.

In your case, you simply praised her beauty in mind but did not have sexual thoughts about her.

So, IMO, your celibacy vow is still intact.

share|improve this answer

edited Aug 12 at 8:00

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

40.6k355155

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 15:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 13 at 14:09
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
  – Rickross
  Aug 13 at 14:25
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
5
down vote

up vote
5
down vote

According to the Daksha Smriti (DS) sexual intercourse can be of eight kinds.

See the following verses:

[A Yogin} should always preserve his Brahmacharyya [celibacy]; Sexual
intercourse is of eight sorts : -viz: thinking of a woman,
talking [about it]
-dalliance with a woman, looking [at a woman with an impure desire] speaking to her secretly, determination [for holding a sexual
congress], persistent endeavour [for doing it] and the actual deed.
The learned hold that these are the eight divisions of sexual
intercourse.

DS 7-32,33

Any of these eight acts are considered as against celibacy.

So, even thinking about a woman is in violation of celibacy. But IMO, it is here talking about thinking sexually about a woman (i.e having amorous thoughts about a lady) and not about just thinking.

In your case, you simply praised her beauty in mind but did not have sexual thoughts about her.

So, IMO, your celibacy vow is still intact.

share|improve this answer

edited Aug 12 at 8:00

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

40.6k355155

According to the Daksha Smriti (DS) sexual intercourse can be of eight kinds.

See the following verses:

[A Yogin} should always preserve his Brahmacharyya [celibacy]; Sexual
intercourse is of eight sorts : -viz: thinking of a woman,
talking [about it]
-dalliance with a woman, looking [at a woman with an impure desire] speaking to her secretly, determination [for holding a sexual
congress], persistent endeavour [for doing it] and the actual deed.
The learned hold that these are the eight divisions of sexual
intercourse.

DS 7-32,33

Any of these eight acts are considered as against celibacy.

So, even thinking about a woman is in violation of celibacy. But IMO, it is here talking about thinking sexually about a woman (i.e having amorous thoughts about a lady) and not about just thinking.

In your case, you simply praised her beauty in mind but did not have sexual thoughts about her.

So, IMO, your celibacy vow is still intact.

share|improve this answer

edited Aug 12 at 8:00

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

40.6k355155

share|improve this answer

share|improve this answer

edited Aug 12 at 8:00

edited Aug 12 at 8:00

edited Aug 12 at 8:00

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

40.6k355155

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

40.6k355155

answered Aug 12 at 7:48

Rickross

40.6k355155

40.6k355155

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 15:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 13 at 14:09
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
  – Rickross
  Aug 13 at 14:25
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 12 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
  – Rickross
  Aug 12 at 15:22
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
  – Arkaprabha Majumdar
  Aug 13 at 14:09
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
  – Rickross
  Aug 13 at 14:25
  

  
  
  
  

So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
– Arkaprabha Majumdar
Aug 12 at 14:03

So technically in Kali Yuga even overall Dharmic people have committed sexual intercourse (as per DS, not the modern sense). By Dharmic here I mean those who are righteous in their conduct and behaviour, in short, good people.
– Arkaprabha Majumdar
Aug 12 at 14:03

But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
– Arkaprabha Majumdar
Aug 12 at 14:03

But does his hinder spiritual progression a great deal? You must have guessed why I am asking this.
– Arkaprabha Majumdar
Aug 12 at 14:03

Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
– Rickross
Aug 12 at 15:22

Yes it does probably but those verses are specifically meant for Yogis and Sannyasis.. that has to be taken into account too. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar
– Rickross
Aug 12 at 15:22

So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
– Arkaprabha Majumdar
Aug 13 at 14:09

So basically its for the sannyasis who suffer the fall, like Kandu, Vishwamitra or Jaimini, who have been enticed by apsaras before.
– Arkaprabha Majumdar
Aug 13 at 14:09

Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
– Rickross
Aug 13 at 14:25

Yes and the verses also apply to the persons who have ceremoniously taken celibacy vows. @ArkaprabhaMajumdar It is a problem for them if the vow is broken.
– Rickross
Aug 13 at 14:25

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