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Compelled Duel with Sanctuary Spell Interaction
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The sanctuary spell description states:
Until the spell ends, any creature who targets the warded creature with an attack or a harmful spell must first make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature must choose a new target or lose the attack or spell. This spell doesn't protect the warded creature from area effects, such as the explosion of a fireball.
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects
an enemy creature, this spell ends.
The description of the compelled duel spell says:
One creature that you can see within range must make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature is drawn to you, compelled by your divine demand.
For the duration, it has disadvantage on attack rolls against creatures other than you, and must make a Wisdom saving throw each time it attempts to move to a space that is more than 30 feet away from you; if it succeeds on this saving throw, this spell doesn’t restrict the target’s movement for that turn.
The spell ends if you attack any other creature, if you cast a spell
that targets a hostile creature other than the target, if a creature
friendly to you damages the target or casts a harmful spell on it, or
if you end your turn more than 30 feet away from the target.
If someone has cast sanctuary on me, and then I cast compelled duel on an enemy, does this mean that the creature targeted by compelled duel will have to succeed on at least one Wisdom saving throw in order to take any aggressive action toward the PCs without disadvantage?
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The sanctuary spell description states:
Until the spell ends, any creature who targets the warded creature with an attack or a harmful spell must first make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature must choose a new target or lose the attack or spell. This spell doesn't protect the warded creature from area effects, such as the explosion of a fireball.
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects
an enemy creature, this spell ends.
The description of the compelled duel spell says:
One creature that you can see within range must make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature is drawn to you, compelled by your divine demand.
For the duration, it has disadvantage on attack rolls against creatures other than you, and must make a Wisdom saving throw each time it attempts to move to a space that is more than 30 feet away from you; if it succeeds on this saving throw, this spell doesn’t restrict the target’s movement for that turn.
The spell ends if you attack any other creature, if you cast a spell
that targets a hostile creature other than the target, if a creature
friendly to you damages the target or casts a harmful spell on it, or
if you end your turn more than 30 feet away from the target.
If someone has cast sanctuary on me, and then I cast compelled duel on an enemy, does this mean that the creature targeted by compelled duel will have to succeed on at least one Wisdom saving throw in order to take any aggressive action toward the PCs without disadvantage?
dnd-5e spells
edited Aug 12 at 21:50
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The sanctuary spell description states:
Until the spell ends, any creature who targets the warded creature with an attack or a harmful spell must first make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature must choose a new target or lose the attack or spell. This spell doesn't protect the warded creature from area effects, such as the explosion of a fireball.
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects
an enemy creature, this spell ends.
The description of the compelled duel spell says:
One creature that you can see within range must make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature is drawn to you, compelled by your divine demand.
For the duration, it has disadvantage on attack rolls against creatures other than you, and must make a Wisdom saving throw each time it attempts to move to a space that is more than 30 feet away from you; if it succeeds on this saving throw, this spell doesn’t restrict the target’s movement for that turn.
The spell ends if you attack any other creature, if you cast a spell
that targets a hostile creature other than the target, if a creature
friendly to you damages the target or casts a harmful spell on it, or
if you end your turn more than 30 feet away from the target.
If someone has cast sanctuary on me, and then I cast compelled duel on an enemy, does this mean that the creature targeted by compelled duel will have to succeed on at least one Wisdom saving throw in order to take any aggressive action toward the PCs without disadvantage?
dnd-5e spells
edited Aug 12 at 21:50
KorvinStarmast
65.4k15204358
asked Aug 12 at 17:13
Dustin
1636
The sanctuary spell description states:
Until the spell ends, any creature who targets the warded creature with an attack or a harmful spell must first make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature must choose a new target or lose the attack or spell. This spell doesn't protect the warded creature from area effects, such as the explosion of a fireball.
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects
an enemy creature, this spell ends.
The description of the compelled duel spell says:
One creature that you can see within range must make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature is drawn to you, compelled by your divine demand.
For the duration, it has disadvantage on attack rolls against creatures other than you, and must make a Wisdom saving throw each time it attempts to move to a space that is more than 30 feet away from you; if it succeeds on this saving throw, this spell doesn’t restrict the target’s movement for that turn.
The spell ends if you attack any other creature, if you cast a spell
that targets a hostile creature other than the target, if a creature
friendly to you damages the target or casts a harmful spell on it, or
if you end your turn more than 30 feet away from the target.
If someone has cast sanctuary on me, and then I cast compelled duel on an enemy, does this mean that the creature targeted by compelled duel will have to succeed on at least one Wisdom saving throw in order to take any aggressive action toward the PCs without disadvantage?
dnd-5e spells
edited Aug 12 at 21:50
KorvinStarmast
65.4k15204358
asked Aug 12 at 17:13
Dustin
1636
edited Aug 12 at 21:50
KorvinStarmast
65.4k15204358
edited Aug 12 at 21:50
KorvinStarmast
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edited Aug 12 at 21:50
KorvinStarmast
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65.4k15204358
asked Aug 12 at 17:13
Dustin
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asked Aug 12 at 17:13
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No, casting Compelled Duel would end the Sanctuary effect on you.
As you quote:
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects an enemy creature, this spell ends.
Compelled Duel is a spell which affects an enemy creature, being cast by the warded creature (you), so it causes the sanctuary effect to end.
You can do it the other way around though
If you cast Compelled Duel and then have Sanctuary cast on you, the effects can overlap. A target successfully affected by Compelled Duel would have disadvantage on attacking anyone but you, but would be forced to make a wisdom save before they could attack you.
Note that the Wisdom save that Compelled Duel mentions happens only once, when you actually cast the spell on them. They either succeed, and therefore shrug off the effect and can act as normal, or they fail, and thus suffer disadvantage on attacks against other targets for the duration of the spell. The subsequent wisdom saves the spell may cause are only to do with the affected creature's movement - it still has disadvantage on attacks even if it successfully manages to move away from you (though you must remember to chase after it yourself if you don't want the effect to end).
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
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Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
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Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
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1 Answer
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No, casting Compelled Duel would end the Sanctuary effect on you.
As you quote:
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects an enemy creature, this spell ends.
Compelled Duel is a spell which affects an enemy creature, being cast by the warded creature (you), so it causes the sanctuary effect to end.
You can do it the other way around though
If you cast Compelled Duel and then have Sanctuary cast on you, the effects can overlap. A target successfully affected by Compelled Duel would have disadvantage on attacking anyone but you, but would be forced to make a wisdom save before they could attack you.
Note that the Wisdom save that Compelled Duel mentions happens only once, when you actually cast the spell on them. They either succeed, and therefore shrug off the effect and can act as normal, or they fail, and thus suffer disadvantage on attacks against other targets for the duration of the spell. The subsequent wisdom saves the spell may cause are only to do with the affected creature's movement - it still has disadvantage on attacks even if it successfully manages to move away from you (though you must remember to chase after it yourself if you don't want the effect to end).
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
17k24398
Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
1
Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
Aug 12 at 22:48
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up vote
19
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No, casting Compelled Duel would end the Sanctuary effect on you.
As you quote:
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects an enemy creature, this spell ends.
Compelled Duel is a spell which affects an enemy creature, being cast by the warded creature (you), so it causes the sanctuary effect to end.
You can do it the other way around though
If you cast Compelled Duel and then have Sanctuary cast on you, the effects can overlap. A target successfully affected by Compelled Duel would have disadvantage on attacking anyone but you, but would be forced to make a wisdom save before they could attack you.
Note that the Wisdom save that Compelled Duel mentions happens only once, when you actually cast the spell on them. They either succeed, and therefore shrug off the effect and can act as normal, or they fail, and thus suffer disadvantage on attacks against other targets for the duration of the spell. The subsequent wisdom saves the spell may cause are only to do with the affected creature's movement - it still has disadvantage on attacks even if it successfully manages to move away from you (though you must remember to chase after it yourself if you don't want the effect to end).
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
17k24398
Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
1
Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
Aug 12 at 22:48
add a comment |Â
up vote
19
down vote
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up vote
19
down vote
accepted
No, casting Compelled Duel would end the Sanctuary effect on you.
As you quote:
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects an enemy creature, this spell ends.
Compelled Duel is a spell which affects an enemy creature, being cast by the warded creature (you), so it causes the sanctuary effect to end.
You can do it the other way around though
If you cast Compelled Duel and then have Sanctuary cast on you, the effects can overlap. A target successfully affected by Compelled Duel would have disadvantage on attacking anyone but you, but would be forced to make a wisdom save before they could attack you.
Note that the Wisdom save that Compelled Duel mentions happens only once, when you actually cast the spell on them. They either succeed, and therefore shrug off the effect and can act as normal, or they fail, and thus suffer disadvantage on attacks against other targets for the duration of the spell. The subsequent wisdom saves the spell may cause are only to do with the affected creature's movement - it still has disadvantage on attacks even if it successfully manages to move away from you (though you must remember to chase after it yourself if you don't want the effect to end).
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
17k24398
No, casting Compelled Duel would end the Sanctuary effect on you.
As you quote:
If the warded creature makes an attack or casts a spell that affects an enemy creature, this spell ends.
Compelled Duel is a spell which affects an enemy creature, being cast by the warded creature (you), so it causes the sanctuary effect to end.
You can do it the other way around though
If you cast Compelled Duel and then have Sanctuary cast on you, the effects can overlap. A target successfully affected by Compelled Duel would have disadvantage on attacking anyone but you, but would be forced to make a wisdom save before they could attack you.
Note that the Wisdom save that Compelled Duel mentions happens only once, when you actually cast the spell on them. They either succeed, and therefore shrug off the effect and can act as normal, or they fail, and thus suffer disadvantage on attacks against other targets for the duration of the spell. The subsequent wisdom saves the spell may cause are only to do with the affected creature's movement - it still has disadvantage on attacks even if it successfully manages to move away from you (though you must remember to chase after it yourself if you don't want the effect to end).
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
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edited Aug 13 at 10:21
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
17k24398
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
17k24398
answered Aug 12 at 17:23
Carcer
17k24398
17k24398
Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
1
Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
Aug 12 at 22:48
add a comment |Â
Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
1
Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
Aug 12 at 22:48
Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
Nice one, I need to sleep lol. Forgot Sanctuary doesn't require the spell to do damage.
– HellSaint
Aug 12 at 17:36
1
1
Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
Thank you for the correction on the order of events, it is quite important here. The spirit was whether or not these 2 level 1 spells could have a significant lock down effect on the battlefield, and you answered that too. Again thanks.
– Dustin
Aug 12 at 17:42
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
Aug 12 at 22:48
I was thinking about the idea of being able to cast both on one turn yourself (Compelled Duel first) but then saw that they're both 1st level. And then noted the fact that you can't cast spells with a casting time of "1 bonus action" as an action. Which just seems so silly.
– Isaac Reefman
Aug 12 at 22:48
add a comment |Â
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